From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #109 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, April 8 2009 Volume 17 : Number 109 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens [2fs ] Re: Beatles Remasters 9/9/09 [2fs ] REAP [Jeremy Osner ] Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens [Tom Clark ] RE: Joss etc [James Dignan ] Re: Joss etc [James Dignan ] Oh, yeah -- Alexander [Christopher Gross ] Re: Joss etc [Rex ] Re: Oh, yeah -- Alexander [Jason Brown ] Re: Beatles Remasters 9/9/09 [kevin studyvin ] Re: Oh, yeah -- Alexander [kevin studyvin ] Re: names [djini@voicenet.com] Re: names [Jeremy Osner ] Re: names [Rex ] Atlanta Gig [FSThomas ] Re: Atlanta Gig [FSThomas ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 08:45:33 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:29 AM, wrote: > Enough with the random B's at theB end of someB words!!! > Well, you could resolve to communicate only in a coded series of B's... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:06:09 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens michaeljbachman@comcast.net wrote: > Enough with the random B's at theB end of someB words!!! They're the ones that someone let out of the can, of course. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:20:13 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Beatles Remasters 9/9/09 Beatles Remasters 9/9/09 http://tinyurl.com/d3tlrc or http://www.examiner.com/x-2082-Beatles-Examiner~y2009m4d7-BREAKING-NEWS-EMI-an nounces-Beatles-remasters-to-be-released-in-September my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221421323x1201417385/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:24:21 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:30 AM, 2fs wrote: > Miles - is that subject line a somewhat tortured reference to "No Xmas for > John Quays"? Or is my Fall obsession just playing havoc with my perception? While the latter could always be the case given the amount of MES many of us have ingested, no, it's a deliberate reference. I felt like I'd referred to "Robyn Hitchcock's Jug Band Christmas" so often over the last three years that no other subject line was possible given my Fall fandom, the recent Fall discussions on Feg, and the fact that the show turned out totally rockin'. > Anyway, I'm thinking I really should get to that Chicago show. Does anyone > here know anything about the venue, its location, etc.? Are these shows on > Old Fogey Time or Hipster Bar Time? Last night's show only deviated a little from the announced schedule: Bobby Bare Jr. went on around 9:15 and played till 9:45, and Robyn and the Venus 3 went on a little after 10 and played till a little after midnight. That's a typical Nashville club show timetable. Oh, left out of my previous Fegpost about the show: Though the band had an actual roadie, Scott McCaughey examined and tuned all of the onstage guitars. I guess he does do it all! later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:21:50 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Miles Goosens wrote: > The short version: Best. Hitchcock. Show. I've. Ever. Seen. My god. All this and Still. No. Los Angeles. Gig. Doesn't anyone feel at least some kind of sympathetic frustration with me over this? > > * A guy took a picture before the show of what I can only presume the > guy thought was Pete Buck's effects boxes. I wonder if he ever > realized it was Bobby Bare Jr.'s stuff. (Pete only had 3 pedals, for > those who might want to know; Robyn had the full variety pack of f/x > action.) Last V3 show I saw, Pete had only one pedal-- a Rat. Gotta love that. Pedal rigs do continue to fascinate me. It useta be because I wanted to know how the musicians got various sounds and so forth, but over the years I've slowly scaled back my own use of stompboxes to almost nothing, and now I look at pedal rigs and am amazed that people can keep track of them while playing, singing, drinking, connecting with audience and muse alike and so forth. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:30:59 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens i certainly do - i wouldn't be surprised if the tour is extended after Bonnaroo - looks like a job for Obama ! my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 4/7/2009 12:27:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, spottedeagleray@gmail.com writes: My god. All this and Still. No. Los Angeles. Gig. Doesn't anyone feel at least some kind of sympathetic frustration with me over this? **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221421323x1201417385/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 11:42:13 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Rex wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Miles Goosens >wrote: > > > The short version: Best. Hitchcock. Show. I've. Ever. Seen. > > > My god. All this and Still. No. Los Angeles. Gig. > > Doesn't anyone feel at least some kind of sympathetic frustration with me > over this? I totally feel that. Last month RH show was the first one here in like 3 years and I had to pass, since we've been moving and were just utterly exhausted. Oh, and the not having a job thing too. > > * A guy took a picture before the show of what I can only presume the > guy thought was Pete Buck's effects boxes. I wonder if he ever > realized it was Bobby Bare Jr.'s stuff. (Pete only had 3 pedals, for > those who might want to know; Robyn had the full variety pack of f/x > action.) Last V3 show I saw, Pete had only one pedal-- a Rat. Gotta love that. > Pedal rigs do continue to fascinate me. It useta be because I wanted to > know how the musicians got various sounds and so forth, but over the years > I've slowly scaled back my own use of stompboxes to almost nothing, and now > I look at pedal rigs and am amazed that people can keep track of them while > playing, singing, drinking, connecting with audience and muse alike and so > forth. > Pre-marriage when I was still flirting with becoming a yuge pop star I was operating a couple keyboards, not amazingly well, and I had to throw in an analog delay box and one of those noisy-ass fuzz/wahs on top of a tube-tone preamp just to give 'm some character. Electronic keyboards have *no soul*. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:00:54 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Beatles Remasters 9/9/09 Kinda sucks for all those kids who wishes the old folks would just STFU about the Beatles already, I guess. Seriously lookin' forward to those original stereo mixes of Rubber Soul/Revolver. And what does that guy mean, EMI tape doesn't suffer oxide degeneration? What did they use, magical EMI tape made by pixies from space? (Which reminds me, I've been re-reading some of the work of the late great Donald Westlake, and there's a scene in the one I'm currently working on [Watch Your Back] in which a bartender in a dive bar is making a batch of frou-frou drinks for some slumming old ladies. Westlake lovingly describes the bartender carefully pouring various colorful liquers into shaved ice, and summarizes the result with, "It looked like an elf had exploded in there." If I'd been drinking milk, it would have squirted out my nose.) On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:20 AM, wrote: > Beatles Remasters 9/9/09 > > http://tinyurl.com/d3tlrc > or > > > http://www.examiner.com/x-2082-Beatles-Examiner~y2009m4d7-BREAKING-NEWS-EMI-an > nounces-Beatles-remasters-to-be-released-in-September ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:52:24 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Beatles Remasters 9/9/09 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:00 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > And what does that guy mean, EMI tape doesn't suffer oxide degeneration? > What did they use, magical EMI tape made by pixies from space? Shh! The British will get you for revealing state secrets! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:03:35 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: REAP Jack Wrangler died last night: http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid77929.asp If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:23:26 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Rex wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Miles Goosens > wrote: > >> The short version: Best. Hitchcock. Show. I've. Ever. Seen. > > My god. All this and Still. No. Los Angeles. Gig. > > Doesn't anyone feel at least some kind of sympathetic frustration > with me > over this? I do, considering no SF gig either!!! Someone please ask Robyn about west coast dates - pleeeease? > Last V3 show I saw, Pete had only one pedal-- a Rat. Gotta love that. > Pedal rigs do continue to fascinate me. It useta be because I > wanted to > know how the musicians got various sounds and so forth, but over the > years > I've slowly scaled back my own use of stompboxes to almost nothing, > and now > I look at pedal rigs and am amazed that people can keep track of > them while > playing, singing, drinking, connecting with audience and muse alike > and so > forth. This video of Dweezil's rig freaked me out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRXnPcIK1V8 - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:32:37 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > > I do, considering no SF gig either!!! Someone please ask Robyn about west > coast dates - pleeeease? I am selfishly happy that he is not playing SF this year, because it is giving my old childhood friend Jeremy -- he who introduced me to Pink Floyd, Syd Barrett, and Robyn Hitchcock -- an impetus to come east and visit me for the June show in Brooklyn. FWIW. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:35:50 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: no robyn hitchcock's jug band xmas for miles goosens On Apr 7, 2009, at 1:00 AM, Miles Goosens wrote: > * Pete did *not* mention his enduring hatred of Tom Clark. However, > his "Fuck You Tom Clark" t-shirt made actually mentioning it > superfluous. Pete and me are good now. We had a nice talk and hashed it all out, or was that some nice hash and talked it all out...I can't remember. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:19:04 -0700 From: "John B. Jones" Subject: Re: Robyn Hitchcock as vital as ever on 'Oslo' By ALEX BALDINGER The Washington Post Guy's got pretty big cojones to be referring to Buck, McCaughey, and Rieflin as tools. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:30 AM, wrote: > Robyn Hitchcock as vital as ever on 'Oslo' > By ALEX BALDINGER > The Washington Post > > Goodnight Oslob is the work of a skilled craftsman getting the most out > of his > new set of tools. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:11:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Joss etc On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, vivien lyon wrote: > And finally, it reminds me of the picture I have of myself next to > Garrison Keillor, in which I look like one of the wee folk because he's > hella huge. Hey, I took that picture! He's huge, but very kind and thoughtful. J. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:14:06 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: RE: Joss etc >Viv scribbled: >> That reminds me, my uncle's name is pronounced 'Gary' but it's spelled >> 'Geary.' Anyone else ever seen this? >> >Nope, but I did once play in a band with a guy whose surname was Geary (and >he pronounced it like that as well). It also brings me on to my favrourite >drummer story - he once turned up to a gig having been drinking all day, set >up his drum kit (so far so good), did the soundcheck and promptly went >straight back to the bar. About 4 songs into the set he was supposed to lead >off one song. I heard a "1, 2, 3" and then a thunk. Looked around and >couldn't see him. Went to investigate and fond that he'd fallen off his drum >stool, off the back of the stage and was lying flat on his back. But his >arms and legs were still going - don't think he'd realised that the drum kit >wasn't there anymore... how he managed to finish that gig I'll never know. Drummers can be like that. I can remember an early gig of my first band where the drummer had been partaking of certain herbal substances. At one point he quietly said he needed a toilet break, so our bassist announced to the audience "we're going to take a five minute break - Nick needs to have a piss". Nick turned bright red and said "well if you're going to tell them, I won't". And performed the rest of the set with his legs crossed, and not using any kick pedals. Later, in the second set, he'd clearly had a bit more of what he'd been having before... and we couldn't shake him from whatever tempo he wanted to play the songs in, so all of the songs had to be played at the wrong speed. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:14:14 +1200 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Joss etc >Which keeps causing the irrelevant-reference cortex of my brain to >start blinking and informing me that the name Alexander (as in the >Great) was originally Al-Iskander, pre-Anglicization. For what >little that's worth. FWIW, this prompted me to remember that the national hero of Albania was Skanderbeg, whose name means means Lord Alexander. james - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:24:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Oh, yeah -- Alexander Forgot to ask this when it first came up. Wasn't the original form of Alexander "Alexandros," not Al-Iskander? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 16:12:12 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Joss etc On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:14 PM, James Dignan wrote: > >> Drummers can be like that. I can remember an early gig of my first band > where the drummer had been partaking of certain herbal substances. At one > point he quietly said he needed a toilet break, so our bassist announced to > the audience "we're going to take a five minute break - Nick needs to have > a piss". Somehow it got started that whenever the drummer has to take a leak during a gig, I start playin "Return of the Grievous Angel to kill time". I think it's because I like to make the bass player sing like Emmylou. Re: the actual subject line, in my bedridden state of diminishing fever, I just up and watched "Serenity" for the first time, which was an interesting bit of closure, and rather well done. Strange that my daughter's name was a key plot point, but that's fever for ya. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:31:52 -0700 From: Jason Brown Subject: Re: Oh, yeah -- Alexander On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: > Forgot to ask this when it first came up. Wasn't the original form of > Alexander "Alexandros," not Al-Iskander? Yep, the arabic comes from the greek. - -- "Would you rather have your blood go to mindcrime or genocide?" - Trevor Heins ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:34:53 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Beatles Remasters 9/9/09 I don't think they can get you on the OSA if you're not a subject. I hope. In a more list-appropriate vein, just got in from a stroll (or "ramble," I guess) through beautiful Belltown, which is looking scarier than the last time I was in that part of town. Had a world-class bleu cheese burger (which I ordered "as rare as you guys will cook it," and arrived so just-barely-cooked that the beef patty actually disintegrated so I wound up eating it with a fork) at the Two Bells - I love the Two Bells. Was walking across a parking lot murmuring "It's an independent life," at which point I stumbled over a crack in the pavement, almost fell on my face and lurched in front of a woman who was innocently trying to get to her car - believe me, I'm big enough that if you see me suddenly lurch in your direction it can be alarming...so I backed off, apologizing profusely, and strolled toward Third, passing a trio of black kids sitting on the steps outside an apartment building counting out big wads of cash (that was originally "bog wads," which I believe would connote something else in the UK) and glared at me like they were daring me to say something. So I got to Kelly's Tavern, which will always have a special place in my memories for when it used to be the White Pine Tavern and got shut down in the 70s because one too many patron got murdered there, and three unwholesome-looking types obviously in some severely altered state were having a screaming argument just outside the door. No Tamerlane in sight, but then my bus showed up and made it home, where it appears the soil where we planted the dogwoods a couple days ago is suddenly drying up. So it goes... On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:52 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:00 PM, kevin studyvin > wrote: > > > > > And what does that guy mean, EMI tape doesn't suffer oxide degeneration? > > What did they use, magical EMI tape made by pixies from space? > > > Shh! The British will get you for revealing state secrets! > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:41:22 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Oh, yeah -- Alexander Which sounds like a classic setup, if I could only think of the punch line... On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Jason Brown wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: > > Forgot to ask this when it first came up. Wasn't the original form of > > Alexander "Alexandros," not Al-Iskander? > > Yep, the arabic comes from the greek. > -- > "Would you rather have your blood go to mindcrime or genocide?" - Trevor > Heins ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:55:36 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: names My great-grandmother on my mother's side was named Montezuma Regan. She was born around 1870 in Alabama. It was apparently a far more popular name than you might think at that time, though I'm not sure why. On the census she's listed as Zuma, which is totally my imaginary romance author pseudonym. Just the one name, like Zane. Jeanne > > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:23:53 +1200 > From: James Dignan > Subject: Re:names > >>My dad was born in Birmingham, AL and named Sherrill, a name I never, ever >>heard anybody use. > > FWIW, i have nieces called Kesi and Onawa - both real names (one > southern african, one amerind - the parentsd are of scottish and > german descent0. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:06:52 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: names Djini sez, > My great-grandmother on my mother's side was named Montezuma Regan. This is the first sentence of an excellent book. Alas the book has not been written. If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 20:33:53 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: names On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Djini sez, > > My great-grandmother on my mother's side was named Montezuma Regan. > > This is the first sentence of an excellent book. Alas the book has not > been written. *THAT WE KNOW OF*... ("Zuma" forever carries a Neil Young vibe to me. ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:05:33 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Atlanta Gig Got home a little while ago from the show at the Variety Playhouse in Atlanta. Here's the setlist: What You Is Out of the Picture NY Doll Saturday Groovers Element of Light Tryptizol, Librium, Carbitol She Doesn't Exist Flesh Number One (Beatle Dennis) Creeped Out I'm Falling Somewhere Apart Madonna of the Wasps Up to our Nex Beautiful Queen The Authority Box - -- Encore - -- One Long Pair of Eyes (solo, acoustic) The Lizard Kingdom of Love Goodnight Oslo Listening to the Higsons (Mike Mills guitar, Peter Buck drums, Scott McCaughey guitar, Bill Rieflin bass, Robyn dancing a bit with the mic) All in all an excellent show with some older stuff thrown in. I did record it but may have erred in using the built-in mics on the H2. I had the binaurals with me but thought to give the built-ins a shot as I'd read some positive feedback on them. Plus by doing so the recording is in stereo. Were I to use the binaurals it would have come through mono. I'll cut the tracks up tomorrow and listen to it again. Regardless it'll end up on Dime. - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:40:46 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Atlanta Gig The Atlanta show at the Variety is up on Dime: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=244166 Upon closer review the sound isn't bad; it wasn't loud enough to over-power the built-in mics. The acoustic stuff sounds great. Bonus track: I skipped Robyn's having opened with a solo I Often Dream of Trains when posting the list last night. The final set: Robyn Hitchcock and the Venus 3 The Variety Playhouse Atlanta, Georgia 7 April, 2009 - -------------------------------- Recorded from the center of the balcony Zoom H2 using the built-in mic Stereo WAV @ 48kHz, 24bit Audacity -> Normalize -> Tracks Cut & Export to WAV WAV -> Flac (8) I Often Dream of Trains What You Is Out of the Picture NY Doll Saturday Groovers Element of Light Tryptizol, Librium, Carbitol She Doesn't Exist Flesh Number One (Beatle Dennis) Creeped Out I'm Falling Somewhere Apart Madonna of the Wasps Up to our Nex Beautiful Queen The Authority Box - -- Encore - -- One Long Pair of Eyes (solo, acoustic) The Lizard Kingdom of Love Goodnight Oslo Listening to the Higsons (Mike Mills guitar, Peter Buck drums, Scott McCaughey guitar, Bill Rieflin bass, Robyn dancing a bit with the mic) - -f. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #109 ********************************