From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #104 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, April 4 2009 Volume 17 : Number 104 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: counting the beets [2fs ] Re: Escape: rebel music [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Escape: rebel music [Barbara Soutar ] Re: request [djini@voicenet.com] Re: tc... [Tom Clark ] Re: request [Rex ] Re: request [vivien lyon ] Re: counting the beets [lep ] alarm music ["Marc Holden" ] Seattle radio show [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Seattle radio show [Jeremy Osner ] Re: weirdest story I've read this week [djini@voicenet.com] Tainted Love [Jeremy Osner ] Truly... [Rex ] Re: Eb-Stank [kevin studyvin ] Re: request [kevin studyvin ] Re: request [Rex ] Re: Escape: rebel music [kevin studyvin ] Re: request ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Reap (Whedonverse) [Steve Schiavo ] The awesome never stops... [Rex ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:02:51 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: counting the beets On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Rex wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:47 PM, vivien lyon wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 5:44 PM, 2fs wrote: >> >> >> Been there, done that. All around, a good experience. I recommend it, >> with >> certain caveats and qualifications. >> > > So pretty much like any other kind of relationship, then. Yeah, those are > okay. > Apropos some machine's idea of what's apropos, the products Gmail thinks are relevant to this conversation are wrinkle cream, colon parasites, and...Birds Eye Meal Ideas? (Incidentally, I'm wondering whether that company should reconsider its name - or at least have a product called "Yellow Matter Custard" or something.) And "Colin Parasites" (pronounced like Gen. Powell pronounces it) is my second-choice seventies-punk name. My first choice remains "Curtis Interruptus" (I'm from working-class Brooklyn, and I play the drums). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:21:21 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Escape: rebel music On Apr 2, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Rex wrote: > Isn't there some kind of "redeem the Jews" subplot in that crap? Only 144,000. The rest burn, or whatever, depending on which fundie you're talking to. > It boggles my mind that any corporate entity would line up behind > that stuff, much less that it seems to have flirted with even the > furthest frintes of mainstream acceptance. Look up Tyndale House Publishers. - - Steve __________ Mojo: If push comes to shove, what is your all-time favourite album? Harry Shearer: Right now it would be Apple Venus by XTC. Every fucking song on that record is a killer, and I just think it's Beatles-esque in the best sense of the term. We'll never see it live, which I both treasure and bemoan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:12:57 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: Escape: rebel music This article from Rolling Stone magazine about the Left Behind book series is fascinating. The co-writer of the series, Tim LaHaye, was the founder of the Moral Majority Movement back in 1979. As far as I can see these Left Behind books try to pick up where the Bible left off and lots of dolts believe there is real prophecy in them. Meanwhile the Bush government and the man writing them were best buddies! No wonder there were mysterious wars in the land of Babylon/Iraq. My take on it? That the right wing is trying to use devious religious excuses to invade countries in the Middle East in its quest for control of oil resources. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/5939999/reverend_doomsday/ excerpt: LaHaye's books, and his quirky interpretation of biblical prophecy that stands behind them, revolve intensely around Iraq, because LaHaye believes that Armageddon will be unleashed from the Antichrist's headquarters in Babylon. Since the 1970s -- when Iraq began a reconstruction project on the ruins of the ancient city, near Baghdad -- LaHaye has said that Saddam Hussein is carrying out Satan's mission. In 1999, LaHaye wrote that Saddam is "a servant of Satan," possessed by a demon, and that he could be "the forerunner of the Antichrist." Ultimately, says LaHaye, before Christ can return to Earth, Iraq, led by the Antichrist, must engage in a world-shaking showdown with Israel. This Biblical nonsense fits lperfectly into the oil grabbing schemes of the right wing - how effing convenient. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:17:14 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: request Lauren asked: > so could someone be a dear and start up fegmaniax-abstract? Here's digest 100, for easy viewing: http://www.wordle.net/gallery/wrdl/713147/100 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:53:29 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: tc... On Apr 2, 2009, at 5:56 PM, lep wrote: > http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=242002&hit=1 > > xo > > p.s. let me know what you think of that version. also, robyn is a > riot (technically, an "extra riot") during the interview parts. downloading now. Thanks! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:05:56 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: request On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM, wrote: > Lauren asked: > > > so could someone be a dear and start up fegmaniax-abstract? > > > Here's digest 100, for easy viewing: > > http://www.wordle.net/gallery/wrdl/713147/100 > Weird... I saw Lauren's reply to this almost 20 hours ago, and yet this just came through as new. Stewart... Viv... we're HUGE! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:12:48 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: request On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Rex wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM, wrote: > > > Lauren asked: > > > > > so could someone be a dear and start up fegmaniax-abstract? > > > > > > Here's digest 100, for easy viewing: > > > > http://www.wordle.net/gallery/wrdl/713147/100 > > > > Weird... I saw Lauren's reply to this almost 20 hours ago, and yet this > just > came through as new. > > Stewart... Viv... we're HUGE! > That's because we like to talk about ourselves, dear. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:26:20 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: counting the beets 2fs says: > Apropos some machine's idea of what's apropos, the products Gmail thinks are > relevant to this conversation are wrinkle cream, colon parasites, > and...Birds Eye Meal Ideas? gmail text ad puzzles - my favourite! for the bird eye meal ideas, i'm thinking frozen yams? xo - - "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 23:48:14 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: alarm music Tom speculated (back in digest #93): >> > thing >> that could motivate me to even breathe, let alone go to work> >> >> that, right there, has got to be the most bitchinest sentence in the >> history of the english language. doesn't it? >An interesting experiment would be to set up the alarm clock to >wake you up to this every morning for as long as you could take it. I found a cheap alarm clock that would let me wake up to whatever CD I loaded. I woke to a CD single of the Chills "Oncoming Day" for quite a while before I started using my cell phone as my primary alarm clock. I still set the old clock as a backup, but unfortunately, since I've ruined that Chills song by linking it to forcing myself to wake up, I pretty much only get moving so I can turn off the backup clock before hearing the song start up. Some accidental aversion training there. I wonder how I'm going to react when finally I hear the song back in its normal context again. Wow, with the recent burst in postings and a work trip to California over the weekend, I've really got behind on this list. Can't really complain too much about being busy. Between having three days at Disneyland with one of my clients and taking another to the Springsteen concert tomorrow night, not only am I getting paid to go out and play, my tickets are also tax deductible. Things could definitely suck worse. The Springsteen concert also ends a bit of a concert drought that I've had lately. I haven't seen a show since November, then all of a sudden, in the same weekend I'm going to see Springsteen on Friday, Calexico on Saturday, and on Sunday there's Lou Reed/Laurie Anderson (3 pm) and Leonard Cohen (8 pm). Weird how things go sometimes, Marc One thing kids like is to be tricked. For instance, I was going to take my nephew to Disneyland, but instead I drove him to an old burned-out warehouse. "Oh no," I said, "Disneyland burned down." He cried and cried, but I think that deep down he thought it was a pretty good joke. I started to drive over to the real Disneyland, but it was getting pretty late. Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:20:32 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Seattle radio show I listened to some of it this morning; specifically to "Up to our necks", "I'm falling", and banter. That version of "I'm falling" is very understated. The instrumental part is beautiful; the vocal seems more hesitant than on the record -- not necessarily a bad thing -- haven't quite figured out what to make of this. The version of "Up to our necks" was fantastic. I wish they had done a version like that for the record -- I love the soundtrack version but it does not sound like the Venus 3 as much as this. Psyched to hear Robyn mentioning "Daddy Takes the T-Bird Away" in the banter as a couple of us were grooving to that song on FB yesterday. Also happy to hear him liking file-sharing; I think I knew this already but the confirmation is helpful. Had to stop listening before "Goodnight Oslo" but I have a premonition I'm going to adore it. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- J Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:35:58 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Seattle radio show Who plays the really strong rhythm guitar on the chorus? The couple of bars right after he says "Take it away, yeah" -- that is kind of the beating heart of the song. When I listen to it at first I think "Take it away" is Robyn talking to the rhythm guitarist -- but then no, it's an actual lyric... J On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > That version of "I'm falling" is very understated. The instrumental > part is beautiful; the vocal seems more hesitant than on the record -- > not necessarily a bad thing -- haven't quite figured out what to make > of this. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:58:41 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: weirdest story I've read this week Bret wrote: > sorry if this has already come up, but....... > wtf? > > http://pitchfork.com/news/34956-amanda-palmer-to-feature-in-high-school-play-inspired-by-neutral-milk-hotel/ > And I am hitchhiking it over to the teenaged experience of life/art thread, because I was just thinking about all this recently. I went to see my 10th grade nephew in his high school production of Hello Dolly (Barnaby, thank you very much - he's one of their strongest singers, not afraid to look like a goofball, and it doesn't hurt that he's tall and handsome, and no I'm not biased, why do you ask?). I was startled by how good the performances were, and I remembered how very good my high school productions were, 20+ years ago. At the time, we just assumed that we were wonderful because everyone was telling us so, but looking back - and seeing some high school theater recently - I think those shows really *were* great. It has more to do with how very fluid kids are, how willing to try on other personalities, and obssess over every nuance. I bet the star of my high school (and every school has one, every few years or so, someone truly exceptional) looks back on those shows as some of the best performances of her life, and would love to go back and work with that director again. Except... she wouldn't. Because you do grow up, and move on, and while if you're lucky you retain the curiousity and flexibilty of thought you had when young, those early explorations and experiments and failures need to happen among peers, or risk getting very very warped. I hope the Amanda Palmer thing is successful and all, but I also hope that she can put all the rockstar stuff on the backburner and not let it overwhelm the kids involved. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:02:06 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Tainted Love Wow: I'm surprised. The song that I always thought was composed and released in 1981 by Soft Cell actually has a much longer history: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSehtaY6k1U This is at least fairly definitive proof that it is not a song about AIDS. This was one of two songs recorded by my college band The Bastard Squad (Potsdam, NY, 1988), is my primary connection with it. Our drummer Andy had this cool electronic drum pad on which he could make the percussive high-pitched beats that are the backbone of this song. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 11:12:13 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Truly... ...a man with his finger on the pulse of the times. http://www.theonion.com/content/news/obama_depressed_distant_since?utm_source=a-section ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:21:55 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Eb-Stank No denying the "Lisa Says" from 1969 is one of my all-yime favorite recordings. Also the "What Goes On" from that set with the absolutely trance-inducing groove. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! > wrote: > > > Light/White Heat is beyond me.> > > > > well, if that's your first and only exposure to the band, you're probably > > doing yourself a disservice by not checking out the other three records. > > The third, self-titled album isn't like WL/WH *at all.* I love the > whole catalog, but really, try that, or perhaps 1969 LIVE (my favorite > album ever) for a more representative VU experience... and you'll also > learn where the entire Luna catalog comes from. > > later, > > Miles > > > -- > now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:24:18 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: request Bruford! On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Rex wrote: > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:55 AM, 2fs wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:16 AM, lep wrote: > > > > > > The Fall > > The Fall > > The Fall > > The Fall > > vegetables > > The Fall > > vegetables > > Quailness > > The Fall > > BSG > > Buffy > > BSG > > The Fall > > Quailness > > Rexness > > The Fall > > Buffy > > Robyn's shirts > > The Fall > > vegetables > > Fuck you Tom Clark > > The Fall > > vegetables > > > > Addenda: > -Finn vs. Finn > -Powerpuff Girls vs. Broccoloids > -Kiwi Nationalism > -Vegetables/Fall > -Beck (Jeff) > -Fall/Vegetables > -tl,dr > -Macca > -Trippin' > -We're Old > -BSG/Fall > > I think that was it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:40:04 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: request On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:24 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > Bruford! Bruford. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:48:17 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Escape: rebel music I can't recommend too highly in this connection: http://jeffsharlet.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-post.html On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Barbara Soutar wrote: > This article from Rolling Stone magazine about the Left Behind book series > is fascinating. The co-writer of the series, Tim LaHaye, was the founder of > the Moral Majority Movement back in 1979. As far as I can see these Left > Behind books try to pick up where the Bible left off and lots of dolts > believe there is real prophecy in them. Meanwhile the Bush government and > the man writing them were best buddies! No wonder there were mysterious wars > in the land of Babylon/Iraq. My take on it? That the right wing is trying to > use devious religious excuses to invade countries in the Middle East in its > quest for control of oil resources. > > http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/5939999/reverend_doomsday/ > > excerpt: > > LaHaye's books, and his quirky interpretation of biblical prophecy that > stands behind them, revolve intensely around Iraq, because LaHaye believes > that Armageddon will be unleashed from the Antichrist's headquarters in > Babylon. Since the 1970s -- when Iraq began a reconstruction project on the > ruins of the ancient city, near Baghdad -- LaHaye has said that Saddam > Hussein is carrying out Satan's mission. In 1999, LaHaye wrote that Saddam > is "a servant of Satan," possessed by a demon, and that he could be "the > forerunner of the Antichrist." Ultimately, says LaHaye, before Christ can > return to Earth, Iraq, led by the Antichrist, must engage in a world-shaking > showdown with Israel. > This Biblical nonsense fits lperfectly into the oil grabbing schemes of the > right wing - how effing convenient. > > Barbara Soutar > Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:48:15 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: request Rex wrote: > >> Bruford! > Bruford. Mornington Crescent? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:39:47 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Reap (Whedonverse) Andy Hallett . - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 00:28:11 -0700 From: Rex Subject: The awesome never stops... ...with that one band from a town called M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-- http://thequietus.com/articles/01427-the-fall-s-nex-album-will-be-on-domino?page=9 Must make it harder for him to fuck with his bandmates' amp settings. And yet: new album in June. JUNE! - -Rex ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #104 ********************************