From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #99 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, March 31 2009 Volume 17 : Number 099 Today's Subjects: ----------------- weirdest story I've read this week [Bret ] Re: Rachels Hochzeit [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: jeff beck , the OOO and the G Dead - beware strong opinions ! [Jeremy] Re: two bands recently mentioned ["Laura Golias" ] Re: jeff beck , the OOO and the G Dead - beware strong opinions ! [Rex ] Re: two bands recently mentioned [Rex ] Fall recommendations [matt sewell ] Re: what Vivien said ["Laura Golias" ] Re: jeff beck , the OOO and the G Dead - beware strong opinions ! [Tom Cl] ...not unless you mail them from Linctus House Row.... [Great Quail ] Re: Fall recommendations [Rex ] RE: Fall recommendations [matt sewell ] Re: Fall recommendations [Rex ] Agadoo and lemon bars [Jill Brand ] Re: Agadoo and lemon bars [Jeremy Osner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:40:32 -0500 From: Bret Subject: weirdest story I've read this week sorry if this has already come up, but....... wtf? http://pitchfork.com/news/34956-amanda-palmer-to-feature-in-high-school-play-inspired-by-neutral-milk-hotel/ - -b ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:50:36 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Rachels Hochzeit - --On 31. MC$rz 2009 09:03:43 -0400 Jeremy Osner wrote: > Mir ist interessant, daC die Cbersetzung der Filme bekommt den Title > "Rachels Hochzeit" -- das Englisch "Rachel *Getting* Married" (nicht > "Rachel's Marriage") betont die AktivitC$t von Rachel statt die > Erscheinung der Hochzeit. Warum nicht "Rachel verheiratet sich"? Was soll ich sagen? There have been truly horrible mistranslations of movie titles in the past. Most people aren't even aware of those, i.e. they don't know the original titles. Off the top of my head: Once Upon A Time In The West was "Spiel mir das Lied vom Tod" (Play me the song of death) in German. Jaws became "Der weisse Hai" (The White Shark), which isn't half-bad actually. These days they go with the original title quite often, but even there you can get suprised: - - My Own Private Idaho came out as My Private Idaho in Germany - - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon was apparently too complicated, so they shortened it to Tiger & Dragon Anyway, the translation that would seem most natural in German is "Rachel heiratet", but somehow that doesn't feel like a good movie title. So I'd have to say that "Rachels Hochzeit" is OK - the reflexive form you mentioned above feels a bit antiquated to me. - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:01:21 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: jeff beck , the OOO and the G Dead - beware strong opinions ! > The Dead: I have no compulsion to listen to them, but I almost always enjoy > hearing them. Couldn't say much more than that. Funny -- this describes my relationship with The Dead pretty well. I like their music a lot, but it's pretty rare I think Ooh, gotta go listen to some Dead right now! (OTOH looking forward very much to listening to Kevin's Robert Hunter album, which arrived safely on my doorstep yesterday. Thanks Kevin!) WRT to what great white shark was saying about chemical enhancement of music, this is a very interesting subject to me but it strikes me that the listserv might not be the appropriate forum for a discussion about that, because of its public nature, among other issues. So if anybody would be interested in corresponding with me about that off list, drop me a line. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Joe Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:25:28 -0400 From: "Laura Golias" Subject: Re: two bands recently mentioned My husband has "Extricate". I'm going to give it a listen tonight. He saw them play live and he said they sucked. But I'm willing to give them a chance. I so need to broaden my musical horizons. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm open to any and all! I really want to get into music again. Robyn and Cash are all I listen to now. Laura Golias ldgolias1@verizon.net > viv says: >> And you know, I was going to buy a CD of Another Green World yesterday, >> but >> I decided I only want it on vinyl. Maybe I should purchase The Fall on >> vinyl, too. But which one??? > > "live at the witch trials." and it's not just my favourite fall > album; i believe it's also their first. > > re: the fall on vinyl: i only really like the fall albums that i have > on vinyl. when i used to bother to buy their cds, i would just end > up listening to "perverted by language" instead. IMO, the fall is > highly redundant. not that there's anything wrong with that - it just > make me that much less likely to bother to change the record. > > as ever, > lauren ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:33:39 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: jeff beck , the OOO and the G Dead - beware strong opinions ! On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > WRT to what great white shark was saying about chemical enhancement of > music, this is a very interesting subject to me but it strikes me that > the listserv might not be the appropriate forum for a discussion about > that, because of its public nature, among other issues. So if anybody > would be interested in corresponding with me about that off list, drop > me a line. Aw, but then we'd miss it. Can't you make yourself a sock? Culpable Deniability? No? Very well. I understand. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:35:22 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: what Vivien said On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Laura Golias wrote: > But I hate beets. That's where I draw the line as well. No borscht for me, Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:39:19 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: two bands recently mentioned On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Laura Golias wrote: > My husband has "Extricate". I'm going to give it a listen tonight. > He saw them play live and he said they sucked. > But I'm willing to give them a chance. I so need to broaden my musical > horizons. > If anyone has any suggestions, I'm open to any and all! > I really want to get into music again. Robyn and Cash are all I listen to > now. > I really loved "Extricate" when it came out, but then I didn't listen to it for years, and when I've heard it lately it just sounds thinner than I recall. I listen to it and know it's good, but it seems as if some element of fire has actually been removed from it over the years. It's something beyond sounding "dated"... just can't put my finger on it. Several stone cold classics, though. I don't think I'll ever tire of "Telephone Thing". Of course it's my ringtone. More than once I've had the odd experience of my phone going off while I'm already listening to "TT". - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:58:17 +0100 From: matt sewell Subject: Fall recommendations There's certainly a lot to choose from. I'd recommend Hex Enduction Hour, as it's got Hip Priest, the song that got me into the Fall. Also Perverted By Language is great - Neighbourhood of Infinity is superb. Actually there's a compilation album called Palace Of Swords Reversed which is a very good place to start with the early fall. As for later Fall, I'd recommend Extricate, Code: Selfish, or actually there's a good comp for the later years called A Past Gone Mad, chosen and liner notes written by TV's Stewart Lee - have a look at him here http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jmx6y/Stewart_Lees_Comedy_Vehicle_Pol itical_Correctness/ Hope to be of help! Matt > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:35:05 -0700 > From: vivien lyon > Subject: Re: two bands recently mentioned > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Rex wrote: > > > Maybe I should've said "one LP" instead of "two songs". > > > > 'cept who has a turntable any longer? > > > I do! I do! > > And you know, I was going to buy a CD of Another Green World yesterday, but > I decided I only want it on vinyl. Maybe I should purchase The Fall on > vinyl, too. But which one??? > > ------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ All your Twitter and other social updates in one place http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:17:20 -0400 From: "Laura Golias" Subject: Re: what Vivien said *raises hand* Pro-broccoli, pro-artichoke, and pro-asparagus here! And I have always loved brussel sprouts; starting when I was a kid. They are my favorite veggie. You gotta admit, most kids loathe brussel sprouts. I was the odd one who loved them. My brother liked broccoli. He called it "trees". Well, they do look like trees. But I only eat the florets, not the stems. I like cauliflower too, especially mashed cauliflower. But I hate beets. Laura Golias ldgolias1@verizon.net >> Ooh, I forgot in my earlier postings to make a stand for broccoli. >> I've always liked broccoli, even when I was a little kid who by virtue >> simply of being a little kid was expected to hate broccoli. It is a >> tasty and noble vegetable, and if you don't want your serving, I'll >> gladly accept it. >> p.s.: also pro-asparagus and artichoke! > > > Check, check and check. I will also decloak as someone who never disliked > brussel sprouts. > > -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:27:19 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: jeff beck , the OOO and the G Dead - beware strong opinions ! On Mar 30, 2009, at 7:10 PM, great white shark wrote: > Had the rare experience of seeing Jeff recently as he toured oz for > first time since 77 ( in fact we saw Beck, McLaughlin and the Who in > the space of six weeks and all were phenomenally good , however one > RH chose NOT to come to our town this time round so he can get > fucked :-)) > Beck is a monster and he confounds everyone by staying eternally > young ( no doubt there's a portrait of him that is ageing > spectacularly somewhere in a securely locked room ) and also by > playing his arse off and making it look so sodding EASY , he moves > me more than anyone when he plays slow stuff , such as Brush with > the Blues and Good-bye Porkpie Hat , but he also blows off the top > of my head with his heavy and fast numbers as well. His version of A > Day In The Life is just unbelievable and I would postulate that > there is NO ONE who can better him in his field ( or in his paddock > for that matter ) Hallelujah brother! I'm going to see him on the 23rd in Oakland and I'm giddy about it. "Wired" and "Blow By Blow" were practically fused to my turntable back in the day, and they still kick ass. An added bonus is he's backed by Vinnie Colauita and Syndey's own Tal Wilkenfeld. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuhnEcSm5sU - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:23:51 -0400 From: Great Quail Subject: ...not unless you mail them from Linctus House Row.... I know that for the last few days, the List has returned to being a peaceful forum for discussing music. And it is not my intention to re-ignite the debates from last week; but I've reached a point where I realize that I cannot go back to posting about music and such until I feel that I have cleared the air. And I've been on the List long enough, I feel, to have earned the right to raise my hand and say, "I'm not quite ready, yet, to move on." As Mark's letter reminded me, sometimes our Internet monikers encourage us to expose a different register of our voice. Maybe as "Quail" I can be pompous and lash out, but that does not mean there's not a real person behind the moniker, and one who has been reflecting these last few days. Reflecting on whether or not to remain on the List, reflecting on how personally to take certain events, reflecting on my role regarding those heated exchanges. And I have put a lot of thought into it, because I did not want to give in to my first (childish) reaction, which was to shout "Fuck you" and unsubscribe. I do still enjoy this List, and I recognize its uniqueness, and I would not want to lose that from my life. So I have two things I'd like to explain. I do not want to clog the List with meta-commentary, or hijack a perfectly good Fall thread. If you have a comment you think would be best made offlist, then do so. First, about that satire I posted. Look, it wasn't the most well-crafted thing I've ever written, and it could have been better. But I do not regret it. Let me explain why. Was it meant to sting? Yes, it was meant to sting. It was also meant to be funny -- that's the point of satire, to hold a warped mirror in front of its subject. And my subjects included many of you, but also myself as well. Why are we on this list? Well, first of all, we are serious music fans. Not only that, we like a fairly obscure English psychedelic singer-songwriter. That's already two levels of self-selection. Thirdly, we all have some rudimentary form of technical prowess, that's inherent in the medium. And finally, most of us are obsessive enough to actually post regularly. So that's four levels of self-selection at work, and I think most of us will agree, that gives us a certain amount of exclusivity. It is natural in a group like this -- one that is stripped of many other factors -- for people to behave rather passionately about their likes and dislikes. Why? Because as a virtual congress of online identities, we are mostly defined by our opinions; not our responsibilities, parenting skills, talents at lovemaking, etc. We are fans on an Internet forum, the butt of many "Simpsons" jokes. More to the point, a lot of us behave so sharply and dramatically about music because it's one area in our lives where we feel we have *authority.* And like all people with authority over a limited range, we can sometimes act like gatekeepers, tyrants, and priests. "I can't get through this album" might simply mean, "I don't like this album very much." It can also mean, "I think this is a ridiculous/ sentimental/ pretentious piece of trash, and I am shocked that you are so inferior/ simple/ pompous to actually like it!" Saying that "this group/ genre/ whatever sucks" usually means, "I don't like it." It can also mean, "There must be a part of you, somewhere, that sucks, too." Now, it's unreasonable to think we should be meticulously polite in our every interaction regarding music. Being so PC is never very much fun, and sometimes it's quite enjoyable to tease each other. That's an element of fandom that most sports enthusiasts seem to inherently grasp; they bust on each other so mercilessly -- and cheerfully -- because they know that for the most part, team allegiances are regionally-determined accidents of birth. The important thing is the *love* of sport itself. Rivalries are part of the fun. That's something that a few of us could learn from. For instance, I don't care if certain people bust on me for liking Rush, as long as they recognize that there's an honest love there, and it's not so very different than their love of Robyn Hitchcock, or The Fall, or The Velvet Underground, and so on. Lord knows, my hardcore prog friends rib me endlessly about Rush. Rush fans have to have a sense of humor, or they will be eaten alive by this uncaring world, our bones spat out in tribute at Jann Wenner's jackbooted feet. However, speaking for me, sometimes "busting" feels more like mockery, the nucleus of which is not shared fandom, but the desire to reveal the subject as being inferior in some way. This type of mockery has more to do with exercising the authority I described above; and it conveys the callous flick of the gatekeeper's wrist, the arbitrary edicts of the tyrant, the curled lip of the priest encountering unorthodoxy. And while such mockery remains, in the end, merely negative words about music, it can nevertheless have an effect, especially a cumulative one, when spoken within the bounds of a "family." Some people here never place themselves on a superior plane when they comment upon another's musical taste. Others sometimes do, but it's more the result of posting style than any deeply held belief of innate superiority. And of course, some folks truly believe their musical taste is superior, and they do not care if they are perceived as judgmental. Sometimes this is funny, sometimes it is not. So again, my satire was written when I was in a low mood, and I hoped it would sting a bit. Some of us here are guilty of being assholes when we talk about music. And the source of that assholery lies more in being a big fish in a little pond than being able to lay claim to any tangible source of authority. But I also included myself as a target, because I recognize that I also fall prey to the illusions of musical authority. I like to think that I generally recognize this -- which is why I often couch my postings about U2 and Rush in religious terms; I am attempting to both honestly evangelize my love of these groups, as well as satirize my own passion and intensity. Sure I should have thicker skin. I wish I could be more like Eddie, who is a hero of mine; I wish I could be more like Jeff some times, who seems able to laugh off anything. But sometimes, it gets to me, because it does feel personal. Jeff recently wrote, "Quail doesn't like Rex, and sometimes (like many of us) he'll lash out a bit when people appear to insult his tastes." Well, there's some truth to that -- the truth of which lies in the verb "insult." Not critique, tease, or even attack; but "insult." I think there's been a certain degree of "taste insulting" here, and too much one-sided critique; and I feel this fosters an atmosphere of group-think. So I dashed off a somewhat sharp broadside. While it could have been better written, and therefore more effective, I do not think I was shitting on the list, and I regret only that it wasn't lighter in tone. I would like to say one other thing. Something else that bothers me lately feels even more personal. For the most part, I have kept to posting about music, culture, etc. I have not been engaged in a Rex flame war for quite some time, and I have endeavored to generally ignore the elements of his posts I find objectionable. But suddenly, almost out of the blue, I feel quite ostracized by the "in crowd." (And by that, I mean the group of people who tend to post with the most frequency.) And the way that this has occurred, the tone, leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. For instance, Jeff recently took it upon himself to call me pompous. That bothers me. Not because it's untrue -- I can be pompous, I know that. I mean, I like Wagner, Joyce, and Magma. Fine. But what bothers me is that Jeff can be as equally pompous in his own way, but the tone of his post was that of a doctor, not a fellow inmate. Does that mean Jeff is a bad person, or that I dislike him? No, of course not. But from my perspective, it feels like Jeff is a gatekeeper, permitted to analyze my behavior while his behavior is off limits. Think for a second what would have happened if, in response to that post, I would have discussed my own views about Jeff's pomposity and general posting style? I am sure I would have been accused of widening a flame war. It's not being called "pompous" that bothers me, it's the assumed inequality, and the tacit understanding that to defend myself would be to dig myself a deeper hole. Do I think this is Jeff's intention? No -- actually, I like Jeff, I think he's a good person, and I doubt he's even aware of how this makes me feel. But still, when added to everything else in the mix, it gives me bad vibes. Next, Vivien. (And my apologies to her for this: I misspelled her name when I searched my Facebook friends. She did not defriend me.) It disturbs me that Vivien returned to the list with a very one-sided attack on me, then just settled down into posting about this and that, claiming that she wanted to return because she missed the place. From my perspective, it feels that she swooped from nowhere to blindside me, an act that was met with near-complete silence, and therefore complicit approval; she's now been welcomed back into the fold as a regular poster. Does this mean I think Vivien is a terrible human being? No. I have mixed feelings about her -- obviously -- but I have always respected her love for Robyn and music, and she can be a generally nice person. But what she did is unseemly, and the dynamic I sense on the List now may be peaceful, but it seems more like a peace purchased by driving away dissent, rather than earned through compromise and understanding. I realize this makes me sound angry at the whole list. I am not -- I know that 90% of the List is generally quiet, or chooses not to get involved in these meta-discussions. I also know I have some real life friends on the List, and some close Internet friends as well; but I don't think it's proper to have them all rush to my public defense. That's my job -- and hence, this letter. Over the course of two days, I have been unreasonably called a troll, told that I was shitting on the List, informed I was ad-hominem mudslinging, and was subject to an unprovoked attack by a newly-returned member who decided to air decade-old laundry. I was called, among other things, bitter, hostile, irrational, a shit-stirrer, and pompous; as well as being told I was up to "antics" and that I was completely dishonest regarding my motives. Even my friendship with a List member who dropped off a year or more ago was called into question. Now, if I deserved all of this, that would be one thing. But I did not. My three sins were, in order: getting pissy with Rex for his snarky comments about Decemberists fans; sending off a general satirical broadside about fandom; and writing a letter in which I expressed my love/hate relationship with the List. In the post that touched off all this ire, this is the "nastiest" thing I said to Rex: "Why must you insult people by interrogating and assigning the reasons they like things that you do not?" I still think that is a reasonable question, one that was never answered, because I was called a troll for asking it. I am glad that Brian tempered his remarks, and I appreciate his honesty and generous reflection. Internet lists are not places one often finds the words, "Let me rethink this." But Brian is wrong about one thing. You people actually do exist -- at least, your online personae exert influence. And what people say here has an effect -- I know I certainly had an effect on Brian, and Jill, and Viv. Some Fegs have had such an effect on other Fegs that they've actually left the List. And right now, I feel upset that some of the most vocal posters on the List have created an atmosphere that makes me feel distinctly "put in my place." Look -- I am not needy for a chorus of "We love you, man," or "Don't unsubscribe." I am not fishing for compliments as I strut onstage in my back-brace bemoaning my dead vocal coach. I didn't need a sudden rush of goodwill, or for Vivien to apologize. She's entitled to her opinions about List history, as uncharitable as they are. I just want to make myself clear, because until I believe that I've done my best to communicate my feelings, any post I make about Mozart, or the BSG finale, or Kurious Oranj will feel like a tacit admission of chastised guilt; and any attempt I make to be humorous or light-hearted will have the ring of falsity. I've said my piece. Thanks, - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:13:38 -0400 From: "Laura Golias" Subject: Re: two bands recently mentioned So, what Fall CDs would you recommend to me? I'm going to give "Extricate" a try, because that's the only one my husband has. But I'm willing to listen to others. Do you (or anyone else) have a favorite Fall CD? I need to get out of this rut and expand my musical horizons, like I used to do. I love Robyn, but I know there's lots of music that I need to explore. Laura Golias ldgolias1@verizon.net > I really loved "Extricate" when it came out, but then I didn't listen to > it > for years, and when I've heard it lately it just sounds thinner than I > recall. I listen to it and know it's good, but it seems as if some > element > of fire has actually been removed from it over the years. It's something > beyond sounding "dated"... just can't put my finger on it. > > Several stone cold classics, though. I don't think I'll ever tire of > "Telephone Thing". Of course it's my ringtone. More than once I've had > the > odd experience of my phone going off while I'm already listening to "TT". > > -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:18:05 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Fall recommendations On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:58 AM, matt sewell wrote: > There's certainly a lot to choose from. I'd recommend Hex Enduction Hour, > as > it's got Hip Priest, the song that got me into the Fall. Also Perverted By > Language is great - Neighbourhood of Infinity is superb. Actually there's a > compilation album called Palace Of Swords Reversed which is a very good > place > to start with the early fall. As for later Fall, I'd recommend Extricate, > Code: Selfish, or actually there's a good comp for the later years called A > Past Gone Mad, All good, but that almost completely misses the core of the Beggars/Brix era. You could go for Miles' suggestion of the singles compilations (knowing that if they take, you'll need the contemporaneous LP's), or do the "Wonderful & Frightening World" / "This Nation's" combo and those add to the above. Although you might want to wait-- the Beggars albums are being reissued in Deluxe Expanded I Can't Damn Afford Them Editions later this year. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:30:24 +0100 From: matt sewell Subject: RE: Fall recommendations Aye, it's true... in that case I'd add either Wonderful and Frightening, Bend Sinister or my personal fave of that era (an imo a rather overlooked rekkid) The Frenz Experiment. Also Seminal Live is a good'un Oh, and not forgetting my current fave The Real New Fall Album (formerly Country On The Click). Cheers Matt Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:18:05 -0700 Subject: Re: Fall recommendations From: spottedeagleray@gmail.com To: matt_sewell@hotmail.com CC: fegmaniax@smoe.org; fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:58 AM, matt sewell wrote: There's certainly a lot to choose from. I'd recommend Hex Enduction Hour, as it's got Hip Priest, the song that got me into the Fall. Also Perverted By Language is great - Neighbourhood of Infinity is superb. Actually there's a compilation album called Palace Of Swords Reversed which is a very good place to start with the early fall. As for later Fall, I'd recommend Extricate, Code: Selfish, or actually there's a good comp for the later years called A Past Gone Mad, All good, but that almost completely misses the core of the Beggars/Brix era. You could go for Miles' suggestion of the singles compilations (knowing that if they take, you'll need the contemporaneous LP's), or do the "Wonderful & Frightening World" / "This Nation's" combo and those add to the above. Although you might want to wait-- the Beggars albums are being reissued in Deluxe Expanded I Can't Damn Afford Them Editions later this year. - -Rex _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place  Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:34:47 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Fall recommendations On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:30 AM, matt sewell wrote: > Aye, it's true... in that case I'd add either Wonderful and Frightening, > Bend Sinister or my personal fave of that era (an imo a rather overlooked > rekkid) The Frenz Experiment. > One forgets, Frenz *is* relatively accessible, but also certainly suffers from no lack of Fallishness at all. > Oh, and not forgetting my current fave The Real New Fall Album (formerly > Country On The Click). That one's outstandingly great. But I almost think you need to save that one until after you've heard at least one not-so-hot Fall LP to appreciate TRNFLP's amazing vigor and invention. (The same might go for "The Unutterable", although it's not nearly as fierce.) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:51:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Agadoo and lemon bars I almost never check out the links that are posted here because of time constraints, but Stewart's violent reaction to this > forced me to listen to it. OK, so that's how I feel about lemon bars....which may not be a bad thing because I don't need the calories anyway. What's a tablet (other than a pill that you swallow)? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:53:33 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Agadoo and lemon bars Jill asks: > What's a tablet (other than a pill that you swallow)? Something to write upon. If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- J Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #99 *******************************