From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #96 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 30 2009 Volume 17 : Number 096 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Ride [Rex ] just sharing [djini@voicenet.com] Re: Swims with Jellyfish [Rex ] Re: Enz-yte [Rex ] Re: Enz-yte [Rex ] Re: more fodder [lep ] Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! [lep ] Re: more fodder [Rex ] Re: Dandelions, and unable to like [Miles Goosens ] Re: just sharing [Rex ] Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: trying to like music ["Stewart C. Russell" ] misinterpreted lyrics [vivien lyon ] Re: trying to like music [vivien lyon ] Re: misinterpreted lyrics [Rex ] Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! [vivien lyon ] what Vivien said [Jill Brand ] Re: misinterpreted lyrics [vivien lyon ] Re: trying to like music ["Stewart C. Russell" ] serious question (no music content whatsoever) [Jill Brand ] Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! [Rex ] Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! [vivien lyon ] Re: trying to like music [vivien lyon ] Re: a million feggish things [2fs ] Re: classical [James Dignan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:32:12 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Ride On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Rex wrote: > > Yep. It's one of those things where once you mishear one word, it colors > > your hearing of quite a few subsequent ones to suit you assumed meaning. > > This is a very common occurrence with me, of which I can naturally think > of > > exactly zero other examples right now. > > This isn't quite the same thing, but I liked Peter Himmelman's "Woman > With the Strength of 10,000 Men" a whole lot better the first few > times I heard it, when I thought that the whole > communication-difficulty thing was a metaphor. When I realized that > the song was *literally* about a woman with a disability, I became far > less interested in it. Bulletin from the Realm of the Essence of Tong: I could have written the above about R.E.M.'s "The Wrong Child". I thought it was a subtle character study about about social isolation, but it actually turns out to be pandering 10,000 Maniacs-influenced bullshit. I would then add that it's kind of odd that another song on the same album, "World Leader Pretend", seems at first to be and is usually regarded as pandering 10,000 Maniacs-influenced bullshit, but is actually a subtle character study about about social isolation. But one really shouldn't think about that album too much. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:28:55 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: just sharing Funniest thing to happen in my vicinity today: a guy used the *courtesy* phone to threaten someone. Well, I thought it was funny. The police did come take him away, so no worries there. Ah, to be at the library in spring, when the young men's thoughts turn to... smacking each other around. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:36:00 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Swims with Jellyfish On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Steve Schiavo > wrote: > > and Brian, needless to say. > > > > > > Oooh, forgot to mention Jellyfish among my "wish I got their appeal" > bands! Nope, didn't take. I think I once owned a Roger Manning album > I didn't completely hate. > > Jellyfish pushed some sort of "ick" switch for me that I'm not sure I > can really describe accurately, but it was sort of like my first bite > of Cincinnati chili, when mid-chew I realized *cinnamon* was involved. > Me, too. It occurs to me that since my intitial exposure to Jellyfish, I've embraced a lot more straight-up and, I dunno, glammier strains of power pop than I had at that time (for example, I don't think that in the early '90's I would ever imagine myself liking Cheap Trick at all, much less as much as I love them now), so I may be overdue for reassessing Jellyfish. On the other hand, I still don't like Queen. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:40:25 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Enz-yte On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > To be fair, it's God walking his SAUSAGE dog. He does do that sometimes -- > and I do think that Neil is significantly more talently -- but he fails to > do that frequently too. When Tim gets too cutesy though, it can be pretty > dreadful (though I like both the Crowded House songs; "Haul Away" on the > other hand...). Tim and Neil aren't even *remotely* similar songwriters, really. Neil is far, far more impressionistic. I'd put it this way: I put Split Enz in the same basic box as Squeeze; Crowded House goes more with... I dunnno, someone weirder than Squeeze. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:43:21 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Enz-yte On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Miles Goosens wrote: > > What I don't like about Tim: for lack of a better word, gimmickry. > > He tends toward cutsey, "aren't I clever" lyrical stuff that just > > makes me cringe. In fact, I blame him for the lyrics on CH's > > WOODFACE that I can't abide: "Chocolate Cake" and that damn song > > about God walking his weiner dog. Ugh. > > To be fair, it's God walking his SAUSAGE dog. PS, to be UNfair, it's even worse than God *walking* any kind of dog. The lines are "there goes God/in his sexy pants and his sausage dog", which sounds to me like God is physically within the confines of said canine. Yes, a strategically placed comma can improve the sense of it, but only just a bit. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:47:19 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: more fodder Miles says: >> Oh, and Springsteen. I know Miles will be disappointed I haven't corrected >> this yet, but there it is. I know a lot of people equate this with the >> Dylan "can't get past his voice" thing, but with me, I just don't know. I'm >> not a huge fan of the vocal style, but I'm not totally against it by any >> means. > > Well, I am disappointed, but then again, I haven't put together a nice > "The REAL Springsteen" convincing CD to win you over yet. Part of > that is that I haven't bothered digitizing the bootleg cassettes from > whence some of my evidence would hail (blistering "Streets of Fire" > from Winterland '78, a near-chorusless blues-from-Hell "Born in the > USA" from the '95-'96 acoustic tour, etc.). Maybe I should do that > crazy torrent thing like all the cool kids and obtain digital > versions. miles, this is not appropriate. SOP requires that you first send him a copy of "nebraska." xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:50:01 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! James says: > Isn't this against the Geneva Convention? what's "the geneva convention"? xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:57:08 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: more fodder On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > Rex: > > Lord, yes. May I introduce you to King Crimson? > > I'm the more usual post-punk person for whom Crimson is the *only* > acceptable prog-related item. I think I've said that before, so I'll > just say THE GREAT DECEIVER and shut up. That's just it! Jill did indeed explain the "wishing you liked music" thing perfectly, but here Miles provides the perfect *example*. I just agreed with Miles on like seven things in a row, so what is *wrong* with me on the Crimson thing? > > I guess I also think of Springsteen as being versatile enough that a > particular "vocal style" doesn't ring true for me, but I think I know > what people are referring to, such as when he's really yelling it out > on stuff like "Backstreets." I'm guessing, because the guy who sings > "Stolen Car," "Girls in Their Summer Clothes," "Shut Out the Light," > "Brilliant Disguise," and "If I Should Fall Behind" seems to be pretty > well-rounded to me. Interesting. Like I said, I don't think the vocal style is a barrier to me. However, knowing most of those songs, while I acknowledge that there are a few different voices on display, there's a curious sense to me that the bellowing Bruce approach is somehow always implied in the softer delivery, that it exists in a sense to give him somewhere to go, dynamically. Which actually makes me a little more interested in him... it puts him in that kind of Jagger / Bono / Stipe territory, in a potentially good way. On a tangent, I was just thinking that I was pretty sure I heard The Fall before I first heard Wire, but I've just worked out that that's not quite right: I had heard Wire's '80's singles (and may have even owned the cassingle of "Eardrum Buzz") before I bought my first Fall *album*, but I wouldn't hear a full Wire LP for maybe two years after that. I wouldn't hear Wire's first three records for yet still another year after that. Weird. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:03:31 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Dandelions, and unable to like On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > I bought "Born To Run" when it came out and it's been the only one of his > albums I've ever needed. I guess because of that I've always romanticized > him as this sincere urban poet or something, BTR is pretty much the last flowering of that particular strain of Springsteenism. On DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN, THE RIVER, and NEBRASKA, it mutates into something... well, darker and crazier and downright nihilistic. And with fewer and more well-placed words. I guess I see Bruce as fusing his early Dylan/Morrison strains with a big dose of Hank Sr., especially in that aforementioned run of albums, and coming up with something that was more elemental, visceral, and totally worthwhile. Again, if you (and this isn't a Tom Clark "you" but an anyone "you") haven't heard Bruce in crazed oedipal-madness mode on "Adam Raised a Cain," or disappearing into the darkness on "Stolen Car" - or that howl from hell at the end of "State Trooper" - I submit that You Don't Really Know Bruce Springsteen. >but after that SuperBowl > performance, geez...he might as well be Elton John at this point. Whaaa? I totally dug the Super Bowl performance. Live Elt at this point is also synonymous with "phoning it in," and that performance imo was very much the opposite of "phoned in." I wish "Glory Days" hadn't been in the set, but he rocked it out, even if I wouldn't have picked it. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:04:24 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: more fodder On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:47 PM, lep wrote: > Miles says: > >> Oh, and Springsteen. I know Miles will be disappointed I haven't > corrected > >> this yet, but there it is. I know a lot of people equate this with the > >> Dylan "can't get past his voice" thing, but with me, I just don't know. > I'm > >> not a huge fan of the vocal style, but I'm not totally against it by any > >> means. > > > > Well, I am disappointed, but then again, I haven't put together a nice > > "The REAL Springsteen" convincing CD to win you over yet. Part of > > that is that I haven't bothered digitizing the bootleg cassettes from > > whence some of my evidence would hail (blistering "Streets of Fire" > > from Winterland '78, a near-chorusless blues-from-Hell "Born in the > > USA" from the '95-'96 acoustic tour, etc.). Maybe I should do that > > crazy torrent thing like all the cool kids and obtain digital > > versions. > > miles, this is not appropriate. SOP requires that you first send him > a copy of "nebraska." > I have "Nebraska" and a handful of others. I just haven't done the "decicated listening" thing. And Miles, regarding the Byrds, I was just thinking about the long-lost sampler I may have made for you many years ago, as I'd just put "Lady Friend" on a mix disc for my wife, and I decided that *that's* the song. If you can scare up a copy of that and don't like it, you can cease forever more to trouble yourself about wishing you liked the Byrds. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:07:48 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: just sharing On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:28 PM, wrote: > Funniest thing to happen in my vicinity today: a guy used the *courtesy* > phone to > threaten someone. > "Would the hideous fucking asshole whose life has not even the value of his own weight in bear shit please pick up the white courtesy phone?" Kinda like that? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:10:31 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! James Dignan wrote: > Isn't this against the Geneva Convention? > nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! This really is the worst song ever. Be glad, Statesiders, that you will never heart it. Do not seek it out; it is the musical equivalent of goatse, you cannot ever unhear it. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:11:35 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: trying to like music Jill Brand wrote: > > I also want to like lemon desserts, but there is no hope for that. not even lemon bars? we can never be friends. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:13:05 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: misinterpreted lyrics On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Rex wrote: > > > Bulletin from the Realm of the Essence of Tong: I could have written the > above about R.E.M.'s "The Wrong Child". I thought it was a subtle > character > study about about social isolation, but it actually turns out to be > pandering 10,000 Maniacs-influenced bullshit. > I used to think "Summer's Cauldron" on XTC's Skylarking was about someone committing suicide, and being mostly content with their choice to do so. In my defense, and using this explanation/excuse for the second time today, I was a teenager at the time. Now that I'm an adult, I... still like to interpret it that way. It makes me the right amount of melancholy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:23:22 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: trying to like music Stewart, the correct response is pity, not anger. Poor Jill. *pats her on head* On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Jill Brand wrote: > > > > I also want to like lemon desserts, but there is no hope for that. > > not even lemon bars? > we can never be friends. > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:24:24 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: misinterpreted lyrics On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:13 PM, vivien lyon wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Rex wrote: > >> >> I used to think "Summer's Cauldron" on XTC's Skylarking was about someone >> committing suicide, and being mostly content with their choice to do so. In >> my defense, and using this explanation/excuse for the second time today, I >> was a teenager at the time. Now that I'm an adult, I... still like to >> interpret it that way. It makes me the right amount of melancholy. > > I... think I still thought that that's pretty much what it was about until you just now suggested otherwise. Am I detecting a throughline here where it seems that some of us *as teenagers* inferred greater *subtlety* into some lyrics than was actually there? That seems counterintuitive to the common view of teenagers (up to and including the specific kind of dolt I imagine myself to have been at that stage in life). - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:24:42 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! What an enigmatic email! I'm quite sure I will never heart this song, as I've never heard it and will (now that I'm duly warned) never seek it out. But what the F is "goatse"? On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > James Dignan wrote: > > Isn't this against the Geneva Convention? > > > > nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! > This really is the worst song ever. Be glad, Statesiders, that you will > never heart it. Do not seek it out; it is the musical equivalent of > goatse, you cannot ever unhear it. > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:31:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: what Vivien said Vivien's description of the "why don't I get this?" phenomenon explains what I meant to say: "That's one of my biggest "gee-I-don't-get-the-appeal-I-must-be-an-idiot" bands ever. And considering the recently published book of short stories inspired by their songs (a lot like... fan fiction?), I wish more than ever that I understood what the fuss was about. It's kind of like wishing I liked broccoli. I know it's good for me, but I don't really want to eat it." But as for Paul McCartney's post Beatles records, I have never had the slightest inclination to want to like them. Blah (it's just my opinion...) Jill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:32:18 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: misinterpreted lyrics On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Rex wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:13 PM, vivien lyon wrote: > >> >>> I used to think "Summer's Cauldron" on XTC's Skylarking was about someone >>> committing suicide, and being mostly content with their choice to do so. In >>> my defense, and using this explanation/excuse for the second time today, I >>> was a teenager at the time. Now that I'm an adult, I... still like to >>> interpret it that way. It makes me the right amount of melancholy. >> >> > I... think I still thought that that's pretty much what it was about until > you just now suggested otherwise. > Really? *feels smug* *stops feeling smug, starts to feel insecure*(<-- this asterisk bracketing thing is a virus picked up from Livejournal, please email me privately if you find it annoying) It's about someone lazing about in the summer sun, poetically declaiming that if they were to die, this would be the proper way to do it- drowning in nature's beauty. Not actually about someone drowning themselves. Right? _Right_? Someone throw me a rope here. Am I detecting a throughline here where it seems that some of us *as > teenagers* inferred greater *subtlety* into some lyrics than was actually > there? That seems counterintuitive to the common view of teenagers (up to > and including the specific kind of dolt I imagine myself to have been at > that stage in life). > > I do think teenagers infer greater subtlety in a lot of things of the adult world, because, while inexperienced, they actually aren't stupid and they have more flexible brains and though processes. They are, by necessity, more creative than adults and see patterns and substance where such things don't necessarily exist. It's kind of like tripping, all the time. No wonder being a teenager was both so exhilarating and terrifying. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:44:30 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: trying to like music vivien lyon wrote: > Stewart, the correct response is pity, not anger. Poor Jill. *pats her > on head* not anger, was hoping to make lemon bars for the great fegmeet in the sky. Now I have to do something else. I'd make tablet, but there's probably someone who is diabetic/lactose intolerant ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:49:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: serious question (no music content whatsoever) This is going to sound ridiculous but I am writing in hopes that someone out there is a woodworker (Max, are you reading?). My father and his wife stayed with us this past weekend, and, as always, we gave them our bedroom. On our cherry dresser there was (and it's not there anymore because I fucking hid it) a small bottle of Shalimar perfume that my mother gave me before she died 12 years ago. I don't use it often. This is perfume, not toilet water, which isa substance composed mostly of evaporable alcohol. Perfume is made with oils that hold the scent better. Anyway, my dad's wife, who treats my father well but drives me and my husband insane for many reasons, decided that she wanted to try my perfume. She opened it and proceeded to spill it on aforetmentioned dresser and the floor. She decided not to tell me. I was grading papers in my daughter's room when I was overwhelmed by the smell of perfume (a little dab'll do ya - who's old enough to remember that commercial?). I followed the smell into my bedroom and almost passed out. I went downstairs and politely asked, "Renee, did some perfume spill perhaps?" She replied in her delightful Dr. Ruth accent, "Oh yes, but I cleaned it up." Um, not quite. As some of you might know from a recent post, I am getting over pneumonia, and it doesn't take much to get me coughing. We have tried Murphy's oil soap, water, and Pledge, but nothing is removing the smell. I love the dresser and I can't remove my floor, but I don't want to be sleeping on an Aerobed in the living room for the rest of my life. Is there anyone with an idea of how to remove the smell? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:50:26 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: misinterpreted lyrics On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM, vivien lyon wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Rex wrote: > >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:13 PM, vivien lyon wrote: >> >>> >>>> I used to think "Summer's Cauldron" on XTC's Skylarking was about >>>> someone committing suicide, and being mostly content with their choice to do >>>> so. In my defense, and using this explanation/excuse for the second time >>>> today, I was a teenager at the time. Now that I'm an adult, I... still like >>>> to interpret it that way. It makes me the right amount of melancholy. >>> >>> >> I... think I still thought that that's pretty much what it was about until >> you just now suggested otherwise. >> > > Really? *feels smug* *stops feeling smug, starts to feel insecure*(<-- this > asterisk bracketing thing is a virus picked up from Livejournal, please > email me privately if you find it annoying) > > It's about someone lazing about in the summer sun, poetically declaiming > that if they were to die, this would be the proper way to do it- drowning in > nature's beauty. Not actually about someone drowning themselves. Right? > _Right_? Someone throw me a rope here. > It's probably just my psychological makeup, but I'd say that while I never thought it was about an *active* suicide, I felt there was an implication that the narrator was devoting himself to a kind of passivity that not only might, but probably would, lead to death. Letting go of the wheel. Isn't Partridge a diagnosed depressive? I am, too, and that's damned near exactly the way we textbook cases go about things. (nb. I've only really ever heard about Livejournal and I seem to have been doing the "asterisk-bracketing = bold" thing for years now, having no real idea from whence it came.) > > I do think teenagers infer greater subtlety in a lot of things of the adult > world, because, while inexperienced, they actually aren't stupid and they > have more flexible brains and though processes. They are, by necessity, more > creative than adults and see patterns and substance where such things don't > necessarily exist. It's kind of like tripping, all the time. No wonder being > a teenager was both so exhilarating and terrifying. > That's fascinating and makes perfect sense. Being inexperienced necessitates being more engaged and inquisitive. I think I sometimes forget that in the face of all the memories about how that inexperience also made me and my contemporaries seem awfully damned stupid! I definitely see more nuances as an adult than I did when I was younger, but sometimes those very nuances serve as signposts that something (art-wise) which I once considered insightful turns out to be mightily boneheaded. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:51:45 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM, vivien lyon wrote: > What an enigmatic email! I'm quite sure I will never heart this song, as > I've never heard it and will (now that I'm duly warned) never seek it out. > But what the F is "goatse"? Uh oh. Just know this, Viv... Google image search is *not always your friend*. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:52:41 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! vivien lyon wrote: > > But what the F is "goatse"? Oh dear. I could be really evil here and link to it. But that would mean I'd have to look at it. Which no one ever would. It's an internet shock site. Perhaps the safest way to describe it is: 1) got to flickr.com 2) search for "firstgoatse" 3) Look at the people's expressions in the pictures - horrified, revolted, ... get the idea? That's just from looking at a picture. You don't want to find it. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:04:13 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: aaaaaaaaaaugh! Oh... I think I know what you're talking about. And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll never know and probably won't be worse off for not knowing. After my reaction to Planet Earth last night (fungi spores invading insects, driving them crazy and then growing out of their bodies), I don't think I can stand any more grotesque imagery for a while. A nature show should never make you feel like that. Never. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > vivien lyon wrote: > > > > But what the F is "goatse"? > > Oh dear. I could be really evil here and link to it. But that would mean > I'd have to look at it. Which no one ever would. > > It's an internet shock site. Perhaps the safest way to describe it is: > 1) got to flickr.com > 2) search for "firstgoatse" > 3) Look at the people's expressions in the pictures - horrified, > revolted, ... get the idea? > > That's just from looking at a picture. You don't want to find it. > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:09:07 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: trying to like music That'd be me (lactose intolerance). But! I remember, a long time ago, reading your recipe for tablet and thinking it sounded delicious. Luckily, us lactose intolerant types can take enzymes to help us out. On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > vivien lyon wrote: > > Stewart, the correct response is pity, not anger. Poor Jill. *pats her > > on head* > > not anger, was hoping to make lemon bars for the great fegmeet in the > sky. Now I have to do something else. I'd make tablet, but there's > probably someone who is diabetic/lactose intolerant ... > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:09:39 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: a million feggish things On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Rex wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Miles Goosens >wrote: > > > > > My weird moment for Sonic Youthalikeness came one day in the last > > decade, when I switched the car radio to Radio Lightning (our very > > play-it-safe "adult alternative" station) and heard an instrumental > > passage of what I thought was a Sonic Youth song, and I was > > momentarily happy that I was hearing SY on commercial radio. Then > > Billy Corgan's voice shattered the moment. It was the Pumpkins' > > "1979." > > > Here's another one: play "The Sprawl" and then cue up "Weakest Shade of > Blue" by the Pernice Brothers. For five seconds, you'll think the same > song > is starting up again, and then you'll quickly learn that it is decidedly > not. I shall have to do just that. Another SYish avant-la-lettre: "Butterfly" by Can. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:14:32 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: classical >That's easy for me to respond to. If I read great reviews and hear >friends or even casual acquaintances rave about something and if these >people give compellling arguments about why something is great, then I >think there is something out there that will excite me. If it doesn't, >I'm puzzled. For example, I'm a serious listener to a lot of "classical" >music (note the small "c"); however, much of Mozart leaves me cold. It >frustrates me no end. I want to "get" whatever the sages get out of >Mozart, but often I feel like he was just cranking it out (except for his large masses and the Requiem). I want to like it. Ahhh Jill. At last I know I'm not alone. I like classical music a lot, but have never understood the fuss over Mozart. Just don't get him at all. Give me some late 19th century nationalists, though (Smetana, perhaps, or Dvorak) and I'm happy. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #96 *******************************