From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #89 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, March 28 2009 Volume 17 : Number 089 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Bad news for the ShamWow guy [Tom Clark ] Re: Floyd and being 15 [vivien lyon ] Re: Decemberists new CD [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Bad news for the ShamWow guy [Marc ] Re: Eb-shank ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: Decemberists new CD [2fs ] Re: Bad news for the ShamWow guy [2fs ] Re: Animals [kevin studyvin ] Re: ooh, Sinatra, too [kevin studyvin ] Re: The music I am listening to *right now* [kevin studyvin ] Re: Quail, keep posting [kevin studyvin ] WAS Re: Decemberists new CD...IS NOW Length of time to create (semi-)art [Michael Sweeney ] Re: Quail, keep posting ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: more fodder ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: ooh, Sinatra, too [Poem Lover ] Re: more fodder [Miles Goosens ] Dylan and the like [Jill Brand ] Re: Republican Road to Recovery [Rex ] Re: more fodder [Rex ] Re: Dylan and the like [Rex ] Re: more fodder [Jeremy Osner ] Re: more fodder [Rex ] RE: Quail, Quail [djini@voicenet.com] Re: Quail, Quail [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Quail, keep posting [2fs ] Re: more fodder [kevin studyvin ] Re: Dylan and the like [lep ] Re: Dylan and the like [2fs ] REAP [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Warning - this has actual Robyn Hitchcock content ! [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:02:01 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Bad news for the ShamWow guy On Mar 27, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Marc wrote: > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0327092sham1.html > > As I saw in another source on the story, punching a prostitute to > get her to stop biting your tongue is probably a learned survival > skill, like how to survive a bear attack or how to fend off a shark > attack. I think he's being set up by the Scientologists. http://skepchick.org/blog/?p=5490 - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:06:04 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: Floyd and being 15 That's about it, yeah. Actually, "shivers down my spine" was the intended ending. Oops. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:55 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:48 PM, vivien lyon > wrote: > > > > > > > But the opening moments of Shine on You Crazy Diamond still send > > > > I think what she meant to write was "the rest of my sentence to oblivion." > > Just a guess. > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:10:02 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Decemberists new CD On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:57 PM, vivien lyon wrote: > Points taken. I guess I'm just curious because over the past few years I've > become aware of how different people take wildly different amounts of time > to create art There's also the question of how long it takes a person to start making art. I take great (or, well, "a bit of") encouragement from the existence of authors like J Saramago and A Proulx, who do not start writing productively until they are well past my current age. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Joe Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:16:38 -0400 From: Marc Subject: Re: Bad news for the ShamWow guy Tom Clark wrote: > On Mar 27, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Marc wrote: > >> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0327092sham1.html >> >> As I saw in another source on the story, punching a prostitute to get >> her to stop biting your tongue is probably a learned survival skill, >> like how to survive a bear attack or how to fend off a shark attack. > > I think he's being set up by the Scientologists. > http://skepchick.org/blog/?p=5490 According to the Skepchick article, he's been "using every dime" from the ShamWow commercials to fight the Scientologists. I guess that's every dime that doesn't involve $750/night hotel suites or the $1000 he paid the hooker. Maybe the Skepchick should edit her story? Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:33:27 -0700 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: Eb-shank . *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/27/2009 at 7:28 PM spottedeagleray@gmail.com declared: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > > now listening to: juan calle and his latin lantzmen *Mazel Tov Mis Amigos*. > i *love* the fucking internet! > Link please! I have a surprising amount of Jewish-Mexican family and friends who will probably need this. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:37:56 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Decemberists new CD On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:57 PM, vivien lyon > wrote: > > Points taken. I guess I'm just curious because over the past few years > I've > > become aware of how different people take wildly different amounts of > time > > to create art > > There's also the question of how long it takes a person to start > making art. I take great (or, well, "a bit of") encouragement from the > existence of authors like J Saramago and A Proulx, who do not start > writing productively until they are well past my current age. > All true. One difference is (let's kick Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush around some more), both of them were *much* more productive when younger...so if they've got slow muses, they didn't always. Of course, it's possible that in fact their inspiration did come frequently and with greater force when younger (uh, wait...should I rephrase that maybe?) and now doesn't...or...well, one has the sneaking suspicion that, both artists having become pretty successful and, it seems, living comfortably, they no longer *have* to. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:39:19 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Bad news for the ShamWow guy On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Marc wrote: > Tom Clark wrote: > >> On Mar 27, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Marc wrote: >> >> http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0327092sham1.html >>> >>> As I saw in another source on the story, punching a prostitute to get her >>> to stop biting your tongue is probably a learned survival skill, like how to >>> survive a bear attack or how to fend off a shark attack. >>> >> >> I think he's being set up by the Scientologists. >> http://skepchick.org/blog/?p=5490 >> > > According to the Skepchick article, he's been "using every dime" from the > ShamWow commercials to fight the Scientologists. I guess that's every dime > that doesn't involve $750/night hotel suites or the $1000 he paid the > hooker. Maybe the Skepchick should edit her story? > Oh, that's every *dime*. It's just that he's using the bills for other purposes. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:45:45 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Animals > I was talking with > them a couple of years back and it came out that they > didn't know > there were any Pink Floyd records before 1973. I was > surprised. Was > Dark Side of the Moon a breakthrough hit for a previously > unknown > band? > First exposure to Floyd was Ummagumma, which I found immeasurably boring, mostly due to, let's say, some chemical input, so I simply ignored them in preference to the Zappa/Beefheart/Little Feat school of thought. Next Floyd I heard was Dark Side, being pumped out of two bass amps at a kegger in somebody's backyard, and I was quite taken by it; but I can assure you there were plenty of kids around who never heard that band until about the time "Radar Love" hit the Top 40. > > As an aside: Don't know why everyone feels so superior to the lyrical > content of _Animals_ (or a lot of other stuff): are we really that older > and > wiser? We're older and (hopefully) wiser than our teenage-fan selves, > yes...but those records were *written* by folks older than we were then > and, > in some cases, older than some of us are now. Waters was (is?) a lifelong > socialist, whose father was killed in WWII: his pain and anger at the > degradation of society under a you-ain't-seen-nothin-yet pre-Thatcher '70s > government was legit. And though he's not a little self-obsessed, and > though > he definitely focuses on people's dimmest and most bastardly selves, it's > not as all that stuff isn't true to some extent, of some people, some > times. > I can't really deal with a lot of Roger's bullshit, but I tend to sympathize with his thinking and I'm a fan of Radio KAOS regardless of whatever. And I enjoy Animals; I find a lot of dark humor in those lyrics. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:53:49 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: ooh, Sinatra, too On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Rex wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Jill Brand wrote: > > > My dad always said that Sinatra took a song and then sang the lyrics as > if > > they had no meaning. This is pretty funny because Sinatra fans all seem > to > > love him because of his lyrical interpretation. > > > Yeah, that drives me bats. Maybe I'm just not finely-tuned enough to hear > it, but can his phrasing be *that* extraordinary? I heard a recording of Frank doing "The Road To Mandalay" in a cafe sometime recently and was amazed at how completely, totally he missed the point of the lyric. I grew up hearing the guy all the time and I was never anything but annoyed. People still talk about his recordings from the sixties like they're diamonds but you can stack them up to the stuff Bacharach and David were doing with Dionne Warwick at the same time and those sides just make Sinatra sound tired... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:01:06 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: The music I am listening to *right now* On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Hm, well the evening's plan to listen to "Goodnight Oslo" have been > minorly altered by a disc gone with its owners partner to events at > her friend's. I wonder how many people here have thought about "So You > Think You're in Love" and "I'm Falling" (and maybe also "Birds in > Perspex") in the same context as one another. (If you have not, this > is an invitation to.) > "So You Think You're In Love" - genius pop song. Most of the rest of that album doesn't stick with me, except the wonderful "Oceanside." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:02:15 -0700 From: vivien lyon Subject: Re: Decemberists new CD On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:37 PM, 2fs wrote: > > One difference is (let's kick Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush around some > more), > both of them were *much* more productive when younger...so if they've got > slow muses, they didn't always. Of course, it's possible that in fact their > inspiration did come frequently and with greater force when younger (uh, > wait...should I rephrase that maybe?) and now doesn't...or...well, one has > the sneaking suspicion that, both artists having become pretty successful > and, it seems, living comfortably, they no longer *have* to. > I'm glad you phrased that the way you did, because I think it graphically (and hilariously) illustrates the link between the generative urge and the creative urge. It's reflected in the fact that much art is created when the artist is obviously undergoing romantic frustration, and in the (generally speaking) lesser vitality of the the creative expression as an artist ages. These are broad generalizations, and I certainly don't mean to suggest that sex drive is the only reason why art happens, nor that all older people lack sex drives and/or fertile inspiration and creative energy. But I think the link is undeniable- it has certainly been my personal experience that heartache, longing and sexual tension lead to a renaissance in my creative life. And that as we age, those experiences happen less often and with less intensity. For the most part. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:11:42 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Quail, keep posting > But perhaps you haven't been informed, as a relatively new member, that > that's primarily because all feg posts must be composed in the nude. > > It's true. (Also embarrassing - especially while leering in the mirror.) > Dude. Nobody told me. And believe me, at this point in my life that's not something anybody wants to know about anyway. > > Anyway: for the most part these things blow over, although I won't pretend > that everyone here's all lovey-dovey with everyone else. But why should we > be? There are hundreds of us, with really the only thing in common a love > for (some of) Robyn Hitchcock's music - and hell, I'm betting there's a few > folks here who no longer even claim that (used to, but are sticking around > because, you know, we hardly ever talk about that guy anyway). > > Just for laughs, favorite RobHitch: Gotta Let This Hen Out!, Element Of Light, A Can Of Bees, Black Snake Diamond Role & Ole! Tarantula (all the rock-iest stuff in the bag, apparently). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:48:40 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: WAS Re: Decemberists new CD...IS NOW Length of time to create (semi-)art Jeff: >Should it take twenty years to write a novel? Hell if I know - I've never written one. Viv: >I have a very very tardy muse who is overpaid and lazy. This means my >novel will take twenty years to write, and you will probably read it and >say, "Jesus, this took her twenty years?" ...Merely a response that proves or disproves nothing -- just shows that [shrugs] you never know... My first novel took me 30 days to write -- and, since those days spanned about Aug 17 - Sept 16, 2001, they also included more than a few days near the end spent staring open-jawed at a television for many hours (plus, I was also working 40-55 hour weeks then, too...but might have managed to scribble parts of it while I was supposed to be working). However, much like the "18 years to write a first album" Elvis Costello quote...I suppose it DID take me 39 years of living to build up what I spewed forth on those 30 days (drank alot of Red Bull then -- but no booze -- too)... My second novel was written out of order, in semi-random pieces, a few years back ('05, I think?). It exists in about 100 pages in my computer's memory and 4 or 5 jammed-full hand-written notebooks. The writing is finished, but the assembly -- the determining just exactly where each "episode" or occurence should go -- is not. Not sure exactly how long the main work took, but...I wanna say maybe 3, 4, 5 months?...with spurts and slow downs. And, of course, I have not even made much more than a token effort to put it all together since (hey, I purchased the 3X5 note cards to fill in the summaries of each incident so I can then shuffle through them and decide the proper order, but...haven't done much else yet)...so, technically, I suppose it is not quite done... The third one is only an idea, outline, and a few dozen pages of writing that I may well never return to...maybe that was just a false start. Similarly, there were years in this period where I turned out much short fiction (including one 60-day period where I wrote about 25 or 30 of them...most of which were even pretty OK) and other times (including now, when I am busy writing much non-fiction every week -- 4 to 5 full-length pieces) when I maybe only did a few stories in an entire year. So...you never know -- and this from someone who A) Has made a living at writing (almost solely) for 25 years now...B) Doesn't believe in "writer's block" (but, hey, some days are harder than others...and some ideas are worse than others)...and C) Still writes something just about every single day... Thus endeth examples... Michael Sweeney (do I have to break up my sig if I have no joke or additional comment? sigh...such are the expected trademarks (even forced, semi-stupid ones) we set ourselves up with...) _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail.. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_ WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:26:06 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Republican Road to Recovery Jeremy Osner wrote: > > http://www.gop.gov/solutions/budget/road-to-recovery-final.pdf What I want to know is, why does the eagle on the cover have a Ritz cracker on its head? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:28:59 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Quail, keep posting Jill Brand wrote: > > And anyway, none of you knows what the fuck you are talking about > because I've seen Colin Meloy with a beard. ;-) In a few of the Crane Wife promo pictures he was hirsute - he looked a little like a literary sasquatch. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:42:51 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: more fodder Jill Brand wrote: > > Is there any music that you don't like, that you've tried to like, and > that you wish you liked? Zappa. I've yet to find a redeeming quality. If you removed the 'you wish you liked', I could add a bunch, but that would be mean. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:25:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Poem Lover Subject: Re: ooh, Sinatra, too I can only bear Frank in small doses. My best friend's dad used to insist we listen to Sinatra when we were kids and he'd flood the house with it....ugh. - --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Jill Brand wrote: From: Jill Brand Subject: ooh, Sinatra, too To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 12:19 AM Yes, Frank Sinatra definitely belongs on the list, but I know why. My father can't stand Frank Sinatra, and I was brought up to hate him as well. My dad always said that Sinatra took a song and then sang the lyrics as if they had no meaning. This is pretty funny because Sinatra fans all seem to love him because of his lyrical interpretation. I like Tony Bennett a lot, though. And, well, NOBODY sings Gershwin, Cole Porter, Irving Berlin, and Jerome Kern like Fred Astaire. He is one of my true heroes. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:41:34 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: more fodder On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Jill Brand wrote: > So............. > > as to music that we might not like........ > > Is there any music that you don't like, that you've tried to like, and that > you wish you liked? Yes, lots. In all cases, I've really tried to like them, and think my life would have been easier and more pleasant if I did. But I didn't. * Guided By Voices * Stereolab * Pavement * Elliott Smith * Fountains of Wayne * Sparks * Split Enz' Tim-written material aside from "Six Months on a Leaky Boat" (turns out that I love Neil but hate Tim) * The Decemberists There's lots more, which I'll probably only think of after clicking "send." There's always hope that I'll change my mind: the Fall was once on this list for me for a very long time, and as I've described, I woke up one day in '97 with one thought in my mind: "I'm ready to listen to the Fall." And I've been an obsessive fan ever since. Of Montreal was also on that list, but Jeff Norman putting that lonnnng song from HISSING FAUNA on a year-end comp totally turned me around and now I dig them. But then again, turns out the band was no longer that tweer-than-twee outfit they were when I rejected them. > Van Morrison Nope, never glommed on to him either. Oooh, "classic" department: * Van Morrison * The Band * The Byrds * CSN minus the Y There's also a "respect and like the idea of, but don't actually enjoy much" category. Joni Mitchell and Patti Smith come to mind for me there. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:38:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Dylan and the like The artists/bands I listed (Dylan, Led Zep, later Who, etc.) are not ones that I hate. I just don't adore them. There are lots of individual songs that I really like a lot, but i never go out and buy the records they are on. I'm trying to think of a band that I HATE that everyone else seems to love. Hmm. I will work on that. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:41:37 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Republican Road to Recovery On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Jeremy Osner wrote: > > > > http://www.gop.gov/solutions/budget/road-to-recovery-final.pdf > > What I want to know is, why does the eagle on the cover have a Ritz > cracker on its head? > Judging by the design on it, it's actually some kind of matzah wafer. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:48:50 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: more fodder On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Miles Goosens wrote: > > Oooh, "classic" department: > > * Van Morrison > * The Band > * The Byrds > * CSN minus the Y > That last one, I don't think anyone really expects you to like. At least not any of the same people who thing you should like GBV. I knew about the Byrds thing, but the Band? That's a surprise. People who like Springsteen and not the Band must be nearly as rare as... well, people who like the Band and not Springsteen. I'm with you on Sparks and Elliott Smith, though, although I may someday try again on both. Oh, and whatsername? Yeah, Fiona Apple. Don't get it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:54:38 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Dylan and the like On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > The artists/bands I listed (Dylan, Led Zep, later Who, etc.) are not ones > that I hate. I just don't adore them. There are lots of individual songs > that I really like a lot, but i never go out and buy the records they are > on. > > I'm trying to think of a band that I HATE that everyone else seems to love. > Hmm. I will work on that. > I don't think I have any of those. I think it would be difficult. Almost every artist has some fairly vocal detractors. So I could mention Smashing Pumpkins or Rufus Wainwright, and although some people would be pissed, plenty of others would agree. There's even inevitably someone who disses the Beatles if you bring them up. I still even like the first two and a half Decemberists records and have been feeling nostalgic for them lately, although I can't turn my full attention to it because MES keeps shouting in both my ears. I dunno, maybe it would be hard to find someone who hated, like, Smokey Robinson or someone like that. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:08:56 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: more fodder On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Rex wrote: > People who like Springsteen > and not the Band must be nearly as rare as... well, people who like the Band > and not Springsteen. (Raises hand) I like the Band a *whole* lot and have no real affection for the Bruce (though I don't dislike him as much as I used to) -- I can't really see the connection, they seem pretty different to me. But I'm on record (on this very list if memory serves) as saying I'm open to liking Bruce if I hear some music that I like from him. Indeed if memory serves, recommendations have been made to me in the past which I have been slack about following up on. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:15:29 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: more fodder On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Rex wrote: > > People who like Springsteen > > and not the Band must be nearly as rare as... well, people who like the > Band > > and not Springsteen. > > (Raises hand) I like the Band a *whole* lot and have no real affection > for the Bruce (though I don't dislike him as much as I used to) -- I > can't really see the connection, they seem pretty different to me. I was drawing a line between the Dylan connections on either side of the equation, or maybe general reputations for being roots explorers/re-inventors. Maybe it's not as obvious as that. There are no real heirs to the band in one sense: that lineup, in terms of instrumental, vocal, and songwriting roles, has never really been duplicated, or even approximated by anyone I can think of. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:00:11 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: RE: Quail, Quail Chris wrote: > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:38:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: Christopher Gross > Subject: RE: Quail, Quail > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009, Brian Huddell wrote: > >> I wish I hadn't jumped in and accused him of shitting on the list. I was in >> a bad mood, and it hit me the wrong way at the wrong time (I'm basically an > > Judging from comments I've seen on and off the list, a lot of people were > in a bad mood yesterday. Including me. I think it's in the air, seriously. I mean, I jokingly posted about the irony of someone using the courtesy to be incredibly discourteous, but on Friday we almost had a full-scale fight just outside the library, and it was scary. I call for a mass dandelion break. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:10:54 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Quail, Quail Djini called for: > a mass dandelion break Will poppies do? http://www.co.el-dorado.ca.us/PhotoAlbum/LargePhotos/L_PoppyFieldJH.jpg (I understand their extract is useful in soothing the nerves.) J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- J Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:23:39 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Quail, keep posting On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Jill Brand wrote: > > > And anyway, none of you knows what the fuck you are talking about because > I've seen Colin Meloy with a beard. ;-) > Oh. Well then. Magic Squirrel City ahoy! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:23:41 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: more fodder > I was drawing a line between the Dylan connections on either side of the > equation, or maybe general reputations for being roots > explorers/re-inventors. Maybe it's not as obvious as that. > > There are no real heirs to the band in one sense: that lineup, in terms of > instrumental, vocal, and songwriting roles, has never really been > duplicated, or even approximated by anyone I can think of. > > -Rex > Sue E. Generis & the Uniques? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:24:51 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Dylan and the like the signature on my hotmail account: "i hate all music. except roadrunner by the modern lovers." -- john lydon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:25:45 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Dylan and the like On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Rex wrote: > > I don't think I have any of those. I think it would be difficult. Almost > every artist has some fairly vocal detractors. So I could mention Smashing > Pumpkins or Rufus Wainwright, and although some people would be pissed, > plenty of others would agree. There's even inevitably someone who disses > the > Beatles if you bring them up. I've never seen "someone" used as a spelling for "Stewart" before... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:22:30 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP http://www.zoilus.com/ (Blender Magazine) my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:31:27 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Warning - this has actual Robyn Hitchcock content ! BLOG REVIEW I STUMBLED UPON http://radiofreecanuckistan.blogspot.com/ Robyn Hitchcock b Goodnight Oslo (Yep Roc) In 2008, Robyn Hitchcock had another one of his many close calls with the mainstream, when his longtime friend and fan Jonathan Demme cast him as a rather unorthodox wedding singer in the Oscar-nominated Rachel Getting Married. Hitchcock doesn't have a lot of straightforward love songs in his long discography, but bUp To Our Nexb is actually one of them, and suited the film perfectly. That song appears here, the 20th album in his prolific career, and the second with a backing band called The Venus 3, featuring R.E.M.'s Peter Buck on guitar (as well as two R.E.M. sidemen, who are enjoying their own creative renaissance these days). Hitchcock must always be approached with caution: though he's a lovably enigmatic pop songwriter with occasionally absurdist phrasing, it's rare that his charm lasts the length of an entire album. When the first song on Goodnight Oslo finds him singing, "Ring my chimes I'm a ding-dong daddy," you have every reason to be trepidatiousbespecially when he punctuates it with a "yes, siree!" And yet Goodnight Oslo is a surprisingly solid and rewarding album, the first Robyn Hitchcock release in yearsbif not more than a decadebthat could actually appeal to someone other than Robyn Hitchcock fans. His trademark British drawl is still an acquired taste, but it's bolstered by lovely backing vocals throughoutbincluding some by devout acolyte Colin Meloy of the Decemberists. Buck's presence is obvious, especially on the jangly bYour Head Here,b which sounds like a riff borrowed from any of the first three R.E.M. records. Ultimately, however, it's best to approach this without any baggage. As the man himself says, "It doesn't matter what you was, it's what you is/ and what you is, is what you are." 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