From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #79 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, March 21 2009 Volume 17 : Number 079 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Hazards of Love... [kevin studyvin ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Rex ] RE: Goodnight Oslo sequence ["Brian Huddell" ] d'oh (100% BSG) [lep ] Yep Roc boxen ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Tom Clark ] Re: Yep Roc boxen [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence [2fs ] Re: Hazards of Love... [kevin studyvin ] Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence [Tom Clark ] Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence [Tom Clark ] RE: Goodnight Oslo sequence ["Brian Huddell" ] Decemberists Podcast Up [Steve Schiavo ] RE: Goodnight Oslo sequence ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: Yep Roc boxen [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: d'oh (100% BSG) [Sumiko Keay ] I don't watch BSG but [Jeremy Osner ] Hazards of Love/Decemberists success [Jill Brand ] Re: d'oh (100% BSG) [FSThomas ] Re: Hazards of Love/Decemberists success [2fs ] Big sale at Yep Roc ["gene@hopstetter.com" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:22:13 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Maximilian Lang wrote: > Jethro Tull always makes me think of the Pennsylvania Renaissance Fair.... Happy to say I only experienced one Renaissance Fayre (and as far as I know David Crosby was nowhere in attendance). Hollywod Palladium, Xmas 1972. It was some kind of fundraising deal for a local radio station, but the real attraction was the first public appearance by the Firesign Theatre since their big breakup earlier that year (at least the second of many - those fellas have never gotten along that well), and they rocked the joint with a performance of "Anythynge You Want To". I got autographs from Avery Schreiber and Peter Bonericz (sp?). Pete Bergman wore a letterman's jacket with a big strawberry on the back picked out in sequins. Praise Hollywood... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:12:32 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... - -- 2fs is rumored to have mumbled on 20. Mdrz 2009 16:20:40 -0500 regarding Re: Hazards of Love...: > Anyway: also met Mike Watt at the bar beforehand - a genuinely nice guy. > This was confirmed some years later by my brother, a bass player, who met > him at a Firehose* show - Watt signed his bass for him. Yup. I was too young for the Minutemen and have to confess that I still find them a bit baffling, but fIREHOSE (sorry) came just at the tight time for me. I saw them lots of times and they were always exceedingly kind towards us bumbling teenagers. For some reason I never followed Mike Watt's solo career, though. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:27:18 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn < Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: > > > > Yup. I was too young for the Minutemen and have to confess that I still > find them a bit baffling, but fIREHOSE (sorry) came just at the tight time > for me. I saw them lots of times and they were always exceedingly kind > towards us bumbling teenagers. I do love the Minutemen, but it will always piss me off how fIREHOSE have been pretty much retconned out of existence as anything other than a footnote to them. fIREHOSE were great on their own merits. I really loved Ed Crawford's voice, which puts me in some kind of easily-dismissed minority... but it had a real folk twang to it. It was like Phil Ochs fronting Gang of Four doing Beefheart covers. Which, while no patch on the Tull/XTC fusion, is still a good thing in my book. I guess the band is looked back on and dismissed as "not punk enough" or a sellout of some kind, but they were always great live, and I treasure their debut album above any Minutemen release (admittedly be a slim margin). The second two are also excellent. Ironically it's the post-grunge-explosion albums, the ones that put Watt front and center with more lead vocals, where the script kind of gets lost, and Watt's "all-star" solo debut is pretty embarassing, especially in retrospect. Gotta love the guy, though. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:29:32 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Goodnight Oslo sequence > Jeremy says: > > But. but, Wafflehead! > > i think he did that so we don't confuse him with god. > > xo Beer-all-over-the-keyboard LOL. Bravo, and fuck you Lauren Clark. +brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:42:47 -0400 From: lep Subject: d'oh (100% BSG) i just checked the BSG website because, to be honest, i'm just the kind the dork that visits the BSG website. so when they said "two-hour finale", i figured they meant one hour to-night and one hour next week. but it looks like all two hours (make that 2+11/60 hours) is on to-night. the point being is that i will have to find out what to do with my life starting tomorrow instead of starting next saturday. i'd turn to drugs but, after life under BSG, they'd only disappoint. at least math still exists. xo lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:08:50 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: Yep Roc boxen So the two Yep Roc boxes are now cheap enough that I may buy them just so's I can enjoy the physical objects themselves (since I already have the music, having purchased all, aside from a few of the bonus tracks, several times over, and filled in the gaps thanks to Eddie's awesomeness). Would anyone like to make a case for the objects? Will they tickle my shelves? Is there good stuff to look at that I can't see elsewhere? I bet they have that new bok(st) seht smell I love so. Is that worth a fitty for the pair? +brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:11:26 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Mar 20, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- 2fs is rumored to have mumbled on 20. > Mdrz 2009 16:20:40 -0500 regarding Re: Hazards of Love...: > >> Anyway: also met Mike Watt at the bar beforehand - a genuinely nice >> guy. >> This was confirmed some years later by my brother, a bass player, >> who met >> him at a Firehose* show - Watt signed his bass for him. > > Yup. I was too young for the Minutemen and have to confess that I > still find them a bit baffling, but fIREHOSE (sorry) came just at > the tight time for me. I saw them lots of times and they were always > exceedingly kind towards us bumbling teenagers. For some reason I > never followed Mike Watt's solo career, though. I keep meaning give "Ball-Hog Or Tug Boat?" another spin. There's some good stuff on that one. Sebastian, I keep meaning to ask if you ever scored some pearl tea when you visited! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:51:55 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Yep Roc boxen - -- Brian Huddell is rumored to have mumbled on 20. Mdrz 2009 18:08:50 -0500 regarding Yep Roc boxen: > So the two Yep Roc boxes are now cheap enough that I may buy them just > so's I can enjoy the physical objects themselves (since I already have > the music, having purchased all, aside from a few of the bonus tracks, > several times over, and filled in the gaps thanks to Eddie's > awesomeness). Would anyone like to make a case for the objects? Will > they tickle my shelves? Is there good stuff to look at that I can't see > elsewhere? > > I bet they have that new bok(st) seht smell I love so. Is that worth a > fitty for the pair? I bought both and don't regret it. I think the audio quality is better than on the earlier releases. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:55:31 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Brian Huddell wrote: > > Jeremy says: > > > But. but, Wafflehead! > > > > i think he did that so we don't confuse him with god. > > > > xo > > Beer-all-over-the-keyboard LOL. Bravo, and fuck you Lauren Clark. > She got married? But what will Colleen think? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:12:08 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... I'm a big fan of the take of "Maggot Brain" he did with Mascis on there, though. Ironically it's the post-grunge-explosion albums, the ones that put Watt > front and center with more lead vocals, where > the script kind of gets lost, and Watt's "all-star" solo debut is pretty > embarassing, especially in retrospect. Gotta love the guy, though. > > -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:29:01 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence On Mar 20, 2009, at 5:55 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Brian Huddell > wrote: > >>> Jeremy says: >>>> But. but, Wafflehead! >>> >>> i think he did that so we don't confuse him with god. >>> >>> xo >> >> Beer-all-over-the-keyboard LOL. Bravo, and fuck you Lauren Clark. >> > > She got married? But what will Colleen think? Oh no - our secret is out! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:10:41 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence On Mar 20, 2009, at 1:07 PM, lep wrote: > Jeremy says: >> But. but, Wafflehead! > > i think he did that so we don't confuse him with god. Quote of the year so far! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:51:19 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Goodnight Oslo sequence > > Jeremy says: > >> But. but, Wafflehead! > > > > i think he did that so we don't confuse him with god. > > Quote of the year so far! > > -tc I'm thinking decade. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:56:19 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Decemberists Podcast Up For those who want it, you can now download the NPR podcast of The Decemberists at SxSW from Thursday. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:49:51 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Goodnight Oslo sequence Obviously this was an honorary "Clark". I considered making it an honorary "Jane", but then I got sad. And now I'm all sad. > >> Beer-all-over-the-keyboard LOL. Bravo, and fuck you Lauren Clark. > >> > > > > She got married? But what will Colleen think? > > Oh no - our secret is out! > > -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:24:49 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Yep Roc boxen i think the label needs our support that alone is a good reason my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 3/20/2009 8:03:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bhuddell@cox.net writes: So the two Yep Roc boxes are now cheap enough that I may buy them just so's I can enjoy the physical objects themselves (since I already have the music, having purchased all, aside from a few of the bonus tracks, several times over, and filled in the gaps thanks to Eddie's awesomeness). Would anyone like to make a case for the objects? Will they tickle my shelves? Is there good stuff to look at that I can't see elsewhere? I bet they have that new bok(st) seht smell I love so. 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Sumi On 3/20/09, lep wrote: > i just checked the BSG website because, to be honest, i'm just the > kind the dork that visits the BSG website. > > so when they said "two-hour finale", i figured they meant one hour > to-night and one hour next week. > > but it looks like all two hours (make that 2+11/60 hours) is on to-night. > > the point being is that i will have to find out what to do with my > life starting tomorrow instead of starting next saturday. > > i'd turn to drugs but, after life under BSG, they'd only disappoint. > > at least math still exists. > > xo > lauren > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:18:11 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: I don't watch BSG but I can get behind this cocktail recipe -- The Battlestar: 4: cognac / 2: vodka / 1.5 limoncello & ice. from http://ok-cleek.com/blogs/?p=5114 -- but don't click on the link if you (like most rational beings) want to avoid getting Don Henley songs in your head. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- J Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:26:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Hazards of Love/Decemberists success I know that Quail was not accusing me of being an indie snob, but I *do* want to make it clear (anyway) that I have nothing against the success of the Decemberists at this moment. I want them to have things like a good place to live and health insurance and good equipment and unfettered lives. I just don't happen to like their recent music. I think it's fine for bands to sell their music for commercials (unless Dick Cheney owns the company) if it means that they can go on tour or pay for an appendectomy or take a vacation. of Montreal has become less "indie" in its sound, but I like that sound (I like all their sounds), and I don't care about the Outback commercial at all. I just wanted to make all that clear. Not that it matters. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:36:09 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: d'oh (100% BSG) Saw this in the Wall Street Journal of all places yesterday about the next installment of the story being directed by Edward "Adama" Olmos: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123750376676889711.html Moving On After 'Battlestar' As the series ends, its versatile star prepares a TV movie tied to the show. Friday night, after four seasons of attacks, betrayals, ethical struggles and a key character's resurrection, the warship of "Battlestar Galactica" reaches its destiny -- and its fans and cast will have to figure out what to do next. Edward James Olmos, who plays the pivotal, gruff Admiral William Adama, has already planned his next move. Though the 62-year-old actor has completed his on-screen duties, he's hard at work editing "The Plan," a TV movie he's directed. It's one of two "Battlestar"-themed projects set to air this fall and early next year on the Sci Fi network (soon to be rechristened SyFy), which runs the series. Mr. Olmos has been living with his character since the reimagined series premiered as a miniseries in 2003. "It's all very tragic," he says. "I've been crying a lot. Feeling self-conscious. And saying thank you." The series seems to provoke big emotions. From its unpromising origins as a reboot of the short-lived 1970s TV show, it grew to tackle issues of genocide, religion and terrorism as its ragtag group of human survivors sought Earth -- which many believed to be part of a mystical prophecy -- in a post-apocalyptic world. Critics put it on their year-end best-of lists, sales of series DVDs topped $100 million, and cultists made the show a staple of sci-fi and fantasy conventions. The series has even made it to the United Nations: This week, a "joint summit" between cast members and producers, U.N. representatives and more than 100 high-school students discussed how the show's plotlines reflected modern conflicts over human rights and civilizations' values. One example: a character's use of waterboarding in the first season. Mr. Olmos has ample reason to stay in the "Battlestar" embrace. The Latino actor played Lieutenant Martin Castillo on TV's "Miami Vice" for five years and successfully made the transition to film. He won an Oscar nomination for playing a steadfast teacher in 1988's "Stand and Deliver" and had key roles in "Blade Runner" and the prison-gang drama "American Me," which he also directed. But he remained largely under the radar until the cult explosion of "Battlestar." The U.N. hosts "Battlestar Galatica." Mr. Olmos relishes how race is never made a factor on Battlestar: "It's simply not what the series is about. There's only one race, the human race, battling the cylons, which are essentially human technology," he says. "It's like me battling my own self." Mr. Olmos is less optimistic about the real world, however. "Hispanic filmmaking is actually going down," he says. "Even though we've become better filmmakers and we're doing a lot more work...we're still less than 2% of the images onscreen." "Eddie has a serious side," says executive producer and writer Ronald D. Moore, who rebooted the old series. He recalls a discussion with the actor in regards to the finale. "I was never tempted to make the ending very nihilistic and kill everyone, but Eddie wanted to." For Mr. Moore, "'Battlestar' is over; that chapter has now closed." He delivered the final cut of the finale a mere five days before air date. He adds, "From the final day of shooting to speaking at various events about the end of the show, there have been a lot of emotional moments." Even "Caprica," the new "prequel" series about the families of "Battlestar" set to air next year, was deliberately planned as a "new start." Mr. Moore says, "We made sure not to make the series space-based and use a new style of shooting." As for Mr. Olmos, his focus is on "The Plan." "I only direct projects where I have tremendous passion for the story," says Mr. Olmos. The film revisits earlier events from the perspective of deadly cybernetic machines known as the cylons. "I just finished my cut," he adds. "I didn't get any break between the two projects, but am still feeling the void of being the only one left on board. I'm literally the last one standing." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:42:12 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Hazards of Love/Decemberists success On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > of Montreal has become less "indie" in its sound, but I like that sound (I > like all their sounds), and I don't care about the Outback commercial at > all. Not rehashing the whole Outback issue here...but I'd argue that OM's sound is every bit as indie as it's ever been...just in a different subgenre. The whole dancey, slightly funky, somewhat glitchy, but still melodic thing is a pretty popular sound in Indie-ana these days. (Not a diss: I ended up liking the most recent Of Montreal album better than I thought I would...although, lovely as that packaging is, it's such a pain in the ass I've ended up putting the CD in a slim plastic case. Then again, 99% of the time if I want to hear it I"ll just listen to it on iTunes anyway.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:45:20 -0500 From: "gene@hopstetter.com" Subject: Big sale at Yep Roc Luminous Groove CD Box Set $25.99 from YepRoc: http://store.yeproc.com/album.php?id=13527 I Wanna Go Backwards CD Box Set $25.99 from YepRoc: http://store.yeproc.com/album.php?id=12810 ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #79 *******************************