From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #78 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, March 20 2009 Volume 17 : Number 078 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: reap [Rex ] Re: reap [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Stewart Russell ] "Rachel Getting Married" interview [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Rex ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Hazards of Love... [kevin studyvin ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Steve Schiavo ] NEW on DiME: ROBYN HITCHCOCK & THE EGYPTIANS Piacenza, My Way, Feb. 10, 1987 [HwyCDRre] Re: Hazards of Love... [kevin studyvin ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Great Quail ] RE: Hazards of Love... [Maximilian Lang ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Rex ] Jonesing for REM (0% RH) [m swedene ] Goodnight Oslo sequence [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Hazards of Love... [lep ] Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence [lep ] Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Rex ] Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence [lep ] Re: Hazards of Love... [lep ] Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence [Rex ] Re: Hazards of Love... [Rex ] Re: Hazards of Love... [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:48:31 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: reap On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Marc wrote: > > On another note, this illustrates one of the reasons why I always ski with > a helmet on, although I haven't fallen on a beginner slope in decades. > And also one of the reasons why I will never go skiing ever... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:53:19 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: reap On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Rex wrote: > And also one of the reasons why I will never go skiing ever... Worth keeping in mind, in this regard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UCGRiHE_FA J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Joe Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:58:53 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... 2009/3/19 Rex : > > like... indie-twee or whatever it is. Beware! Would twee grunge be twinge? > Well, maybe not. I'm tired. Happy Birthday, again. - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:57:59 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: "Rachel Getting Married" interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-39hpjlTZw&NR=1 If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Joe Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:41:22 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Stewart Russell wrote: > 2009/3/19 Rex : > > > > like... indie-twee or whatever it is. Beware! > > Would twee grunge be twinge? > TWee INdie grunGE. Absolutely. You can start it. Autoharps ready... set... go! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:44:08 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Mar 19, 2009, at 8:31 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > ...has been the #1 album at iTunes since yesterday. Weren't the > Decemberists once some quirky little band from Portland? Curiouser > and curiouser. It's the NPR crowd. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:05:44 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Mar 19, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Rex wrote: > So if the Decemberists are Nirvana What if they're the new Jethro Tull? - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:17:34 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... Or the new Ultravox? They did get a rave review on NPR earlier today... On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > On Mar 19, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Rex wrote: > > So if the Decemberists are Nirvana >> > > > What if they're the new Jethro Tull? > > > debut-their-new-concept-album/> > > > > > > > > - Steve > __________ > I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl > with a scythe. - John > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:15:50 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:17 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > Or the new Ultravox? The Foxx Ultravox, I would hope. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:13:56 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: NEW on DiME: ROBYN HITCHCOCK & THE EGYPTIANS Piacenza, My Way, Feb. 10, 1987 http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=241360 ROBYN HITCHCOCK & THE EGYPTIANS Piacenza, My Way, Feb. 10, 1987 Digitized and slightly re-equalized from my own 1st gen. k7. TIMING: 62'44" - QUALITY: a full B+ at least. A very big thank you to Massimo M. for taping the concert. TRACKS: 1. It sounds great when you're dead 2. Bass 3. If you were a priest 4. Airscape 5. Lady Water and the Hooded One 6. I often dream of trains 7. Uncorrected personality traits 8. Tropical flesh mandala (pre-album) 9. The President 10. Kingdom of love 11. I'm only you 12. (song finale) 13. The man with the lightbulb head 14. Heaven 15. Listening to the Higsons A 'Ratpie' production. All the best from Italy. Maurizio. my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219619459x1201345309/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:30:30 -0700 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... Oh fer sure. I share Lauren's feeling about Ha! Ha! Ha! - it rules. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:17 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > Or the new Ultravox? >> > > > The Foxx Ultravox, I would hope. > > > > - Steve > __________ > I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl > with a scythe. - John > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:08:53 -0400 From: Great Quail Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... Steve writes about The Decemberists, > What if they're the new Jethro Tull? That's kind of how I think of them. It's as if The Decemberists have answered the age-old question of "What happens when you cross XTC with Jethro Tull." And for me, that's a good thing. I for one wish them success and happiness. I am glad they are doing so well; I am always glad when artists I like become successful without "selling out." And while I know some folks here like Jill do don't like their more recent sound, I can't imagine anyone thinking they are selling out, as their new album is a concept album about evil forest queens and I think there may be a magic squirrel in there, too. Anyway, hurray for The Decemberists, who now have enough money to buy nice homes and college for their kids; though they may also likely spend it on Victorian fripperies for all I know. Hurray for a group that actually makes a decent living making music and doing what they love. Though it does make getting closer to the stage and mooning over Petra increasingly harder to do. Radio City in June! That's a long way from the Bowery Ballroom. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:03:20 -0400 From: Maximilian Lang Subject: RE: Hazards of Love... Jethro Tull always makes me think of the Pennsylvania Renaissance Fair.... > Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:08:53 -0400 > Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... > From: quail@shipwrecklibrary.com > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > > Steve writes about The Decemberists, > > > What if they're the new Jethro Tull? > > That's kind of how I think of them. It's as if The Decemberists have > answered the age-old question of "What happens when you cross XTC with > Jethro Tull." And for me, that's a good thing. > > I for one wish them success and happiness. I am glad they are doing so well; > I am always glad when artists I like become successful without "selling > out." And while I know some folks here like Jill do don't like their more > recent sound, I can't imagine anyone thinking they are selling out, as their > new album is a concept album about evil forest queens and I think there may > be a magic squirrel in there, too. > > Anyway, hurray for The Decemberists, who now have enough money to buy nice > homes and college for their kids; though they may also likely spend it on > Victorian fripperies for all I know. Hurray for a group that actually makes > a decent living making music and doing what they love. > > Though it does make getting closer to the stage and mooning over Petra > increasingly harder to do. Radio City in June! That's a long way from the > Bowery Ballroom. > > --Quail _________________________________________________________________ Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN5 5C0701A ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:49:42 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Great Quail wrote: > I for one wish them success and happiness. I am glad they are doing so > well; > I am always glad when artists I like become successful without "selling > out." And while I know some folks here like Jill do don't like their more > recent sound, I can't imagine anyone thinking they are selling out Nope... quite the contrary. I wish they'd remained more accessible. I can't think of another example where a band has gained popularity while making increasingly difficult music. That might even say something positive about the cultural climate. Or it could be some weird marketing thing that I don't understand. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:56:55 -0400 From: m swedene Subject: Jonesing for REM (0% RH) I am missing my cassettes of LRP (1986 Demos) w/ PSA (Bad Day) and Chronic Murmurings. Does any kind soul have these? Thanks! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:07:50 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Goodnight Oslo sequence It makes me happy that the Goodnight Oslo CD has an LP's worth of music on it. That seems to me like the proper playing time for a record, like an amount of music I can get my head around. And there is clearly a side 1 and a separate side 2. I think Side 1 holds together better than Side 2, there's more of a coherent sound to it. Side 2 has great songs on it but they do not all sound like they're played by the same band. Anyone have opinions about the ordering of the tracks? I think it was a great idea to put "Saturday Groovers" in the middle of side1. Jeremy If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Joe Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:29:08 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence i think a few songs on side one were written for a brian epstein biopic ? my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 3/20/2009 2:13:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, anacreon@gmail.com writes: It makes me happy that the Goodnight Oslo CD has an LP's worth of music on it. That seems to me like the proper playing time for a record, like an amount of music I can get my head around. And there is clearly a side 1 and a separate side 2. I think Side 1 holds together better than Side 2, there's more of a coherent sound to it. Side 2 has great songs on it but they do not all sound like they're played by the same band. Anyone have opinions about the ordering of the tracks? I think it was a great idea to put "Saturday Groovers" in the middle of side1. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219619459x1201345309/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:44:08 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence HwyCDRrev thinks > a few songs on side one were written for a brian epstein biopic ? This is correct -- "I'm Falling" and "Hurry for the Sky"; also "TLC" from side 2 was written for the same movie. If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:22:09 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... Rex says: > I > can't think of another example where a band has gained popularity while > making increasingly difficult music. the beatles? xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:16:12 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence Jeremy says: > Anyone have opinions about the ordering of the tracks? that's an interesting question. i'm sure i pay most attention to first tracks and last tracks. if a good first track should grab the listener, and a good last track should meander away reluctantly, then well done, boys. it occurs to me that i generally like the way robyn ends his albums. some examples would be "earthly paradise", "jewels for sophia", and "flanagan's song." xo p.s. - jose's now going by joe? - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:04:48 -0400 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence it occurs to lep that: > i generally like the way robyn ends his albums. But. but, Wafflehead! (I agree, his ending songs are usually very nice. But I'm pretty well inclined to like everything on his records... I've never been able to understand why he did not make "Alright Yeah" the last song on "Moss Elixir", it has such a closing-track feel to it. If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- J. Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:05:56 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:22 PM, lep wrote: > Rex says: > > I > > can't think of another example where a band has gained popularity while > > making increasingly difficult music. > > the beatles? > > xo > Fair enough. Should have said "*risen* to popularity while making increasingly difficult music". Although there's probably a fair argument that, in the US at least, Radiohead might fit that description. As the Minutemen had it, another theory shot to shit. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:07:38 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence Jeremy says: > But. but, Wafflehead! i think he did that so we don't confuse him with god. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:10:52 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... Rex says: > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:22 PM, lep wrote: >> >> Rex says: >> > I >> > can't think of another example where a band has gained popularity while >> > making increasingly difficult music. >> >> the beatles? >> >> xo > > Fair enough. Should have said "*risen* to popularity while making > increasingly difficult music". well, i only said it 'cause i'm an ass. > As the Minutemen had it, another theory shot to shit. one of my few claims to fame is that i saw the minutemen play live. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:22:15 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo sequence On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:16 PM, lep wrote: > > it occurs to me that i generally like the way robyn ends his albums. > some examples would be "earthly paradise", "jewels for sophia", and > "flanagan's song." Hmmm. I'm used to thinking that Robyn album-closers are often kind of duds ("Wafflehead", "Superman", and I don't especially like "Earthly Paradise" either), but "Flanagan's" is good, and as soon as I read that I heard "Flesh Number One" start playing in my head. So... maybe not. "Love" is a good closer, too... It also occurs to me that there are a lot of RH/SB's albums that I've listened to hundreds of times, but never in their original form-- always in one bonus-track laden iteration or another-- so I may not even know offhand what the proper closing track is. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:24:13 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM, lep wrote: > Rex says: > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:22 PM, lep wrote: > >> > >> Rex says: > >> > I > >> > can't think of another example where a band has gained popularity > while > >> > making increasingly difficult music. > >> > >> the beatles? > >> > >> xo > > > > Fair enough. Should have said "*risen* to popularity while making > > increasingly difficult music". > > well, i only said it 'cause i'm an ass. But you were right. Right-ass even, I guess. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:20:40 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Hazards of Love... On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:10 PM, lep wrote: > > > > As the Minutemen had it, another theory shot to shit. > > one of my few claims to fame is that i saw the minutemen play live. > Hey, so did I. Which shoots to shit the "theory" I had that you were younger than you'd have to be if you saw the Minutemen live...unless you were like a little kid then or something. Anyway: also met Mike Watt at the bar beforehand - a genuinely nice guy. This was confirmed some years later by my brother, a bass player, who met him at a Firehose* show - Watt signed his bass for him. * I refuse to indulge in the stupid capitalization scheme. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #78 *******************************