From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #65 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 5 2009 Volume 17 : Number 065 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: vegetarians vs. fish eaters [Jeremy Osner ] Re: vegetarians vs. fish eaters [2fs ] Re:Fretless bassists [James Dignan ] Re: Fretless bassists [2fs ] Re: Fretless bassists [kevin studyvin ] Re: Fretless bassists [kevin studyvin ] Filthy Birds [Jeremy Osner ] Re: vegetarians vs. fish eaters [Tom Clark ] RE: Fretless bassists ["Brian Huddell" ] REAP [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Lonesome ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Lonesome [Jeremy Osner ] Too much BSG? (NR) [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Too much BSG? (NR) [kevin studyvin ] Re: Too much BSG? (NR) [Tom Clark ] Re: Too much BSG? (NR) [Rex ] Sebastian, you got some 'splainin' to do ... [Stewart Russell ] Re: Sebastian, you got some 'splainin' to do ... [kevin studyvin ] Rock drummers: click track or no? [Jeremy Osner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:41:36 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: vegetarians vs. fish eaters Marc sez: > I still occasionally wear Spam t-shirts Are these the ones that offer guaranteed penis enlargement? Or the Nigerian ones? J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:55:02 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: vegetarians vs. fish eaters On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Marc Holden wrote: > . > * Weirdly enough, if I remember correctly, it was at meal in an Indian > restaurant, before a Hitchcock show, and a lurker from this group told me > that I was a pescatarian. Later, when dinner was getting served, the > waitress brought me the wrong meal, and argued with me that I had ordered > lamb, not palak paneer, extremely spicy. We all just looked at her like she > was insane, and she just might have been. I do not understand it when servers *argue* with you about what you ordered. I mean, what exactly are they going to gain? You're unhappy: arguing with you is only going to make you more pissed off. Even if you actually did misspeak and say "lamb" under the illusion that "lamb" was a vegetable, so what? Would they rather irritate you so you never come back, or lose a few bucks on a bad meal (which the staff can eat on its break anyway) and make you happy so you do come back? Plus which: even if eventually it's resolved by a manager agreeing to replace your meal, the server has irked you to the extent that the tip's going to be rather reduced - the server's interest is *always* in being the good guy/gal: if there's no freebie, if the house refuses to acknowledge its mistake (or yours, silently), let the manager be the bad guy/gal: s/he's not depending on a tip for a living. Dumb dumb dumb. Of course, if the customer's a total asshole, all bets are off. When Rose was a waitress for a while during grad school, at one point she worked at a cheap chili place with a few pretentious traits, among which was serving wine. Of course it was crap wine in a box. Anyway, some customer - who'd already been an utter pain in every possible way - insists the red wine was too cold (god help her if she'd had it at the normal correct temp for red wine - hideous blurge that it was), and Rose, straightfaced, asks her if she'd like it microwaved. Probably would have improved it, though. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:01:37 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re:Fretless bassists > From: "edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" > > The most obvious one for me is Colin Moulding of XTC, who has played > fretless on a majority of tracks going all the way back to English > Settlement. Has anyone mentioned Jaco Pastorius yet? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:27:39 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Fretless bassists On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:01 PM, James Dignan wrote: > From: "edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" >> >> The most obvious one for me is Colin Moulding of XTC, who has played >> fretless on a majority of tracks going all the way back to English >> Settlement. >> > > Has anyone mentioned Jaco Pastorius yet? First fretless bassist to come to mind...except Charlotte specified "rock/pop" rather than "jazz/funk"...and Pastorius is definitely in the jazz camp (if not "funk" precisely). But what about fretful bassists? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:37:46 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Fretless bassists > But what about fretful bassists? Bill Wyman comes to mind. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:44:27 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Fretless bassists > But what about fretful bassists? Also a couple of formerly Soft Boys. Not to mention Joel Druckman, once of the Bonzo Dog Band and still griping about the experience: http://www.neilinnes.org/articles/joel.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:08:58 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Filthy Birds These birds make me happy: http://jet-point.com/2009/02/24/birds-stealing-ice-cream/ J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:42:26 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: vegetarians vs. fish eaters On Mar 4, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Marc Holden wrote: > I tell people I'm a vegetarian because they understand that better > than if I tell them I'm a pescatarian. I occasionally eat seafood, > but really not that much of it. A friend of mine pointed out the > term pescatarian to me... Pretty much everything Marc said holds true for me too, except I learned the term from Steve Jobs' Wikipedia page (said reference has apparently been updated to say he's vegetarian, but I've seen him eat sushi, so poo on the Wikitards....). Anyway, I usually just tell people I don't like what factory farming has done to the environment, so I'm lessening my impact by not consuming their products. That's usually enough. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:44:24 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Fretless bassists > But what about fretful bassists? Bill Wyman always looked a little worried. And the guy from Queen... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:46:30 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/04/horton-foote-has-died/?ref=arts my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219957551x1201325337/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:55:46 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Lonesome Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > hey fegs, > i'm listenin' to right now, and digging it > very muchly. and it's free, no less (tho' you do have to give 'em your > e-mail address). It's okay, but the originals are better, mostly. And if you need the original high lonesome sound, get some Roscoe Holcomb in your life. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:46:48 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Lonesome scruss thinks: > It's okay, but the originals are better, mostly. I agree with this; but there are a couple of real stand-outs that are worth listening to. The musee mecanique's take on "No Home in This World Anymore" is something I'm going to keep listening to for a while - -- more than a cover of Woody, it is completely reimagined. They sort of lost the political content of the song, which is a pity; but what they came up with is a thing of beauty. Also loved Headlights' "Come all ye fair and tender ladies" and a couple of others. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:06:12 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Too much BSG? (NR) > David Gibbs III, a lawyer who in 2005 fought to keep brain-damaged > Terri Schiavo on life support, told rally participants gay marriage > would "open the door to unusual marriage in North Carolina. "Why > not polygamy, or three or four spouses?" Gibbs asked. "Maybe people > will want to marry their pets or robots." - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:37:39 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Too much BSG? (NR) If marrying a robot was an option I'd definitely wanna do that, only I already have one of these boring same-species things going on... On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > David Gibbs III, a lawyer who in 2005 fought to keep brain-damaged Terri >> Schiavo on life support, told rally participants gay marriage would "open >> the door to unusual marriage in North Carolina. "Why not polygamy, or three >> or four spouses?" Gibbs asked. "Maybe people will want to marry their pets >> or robots." >> > > > > > > > - Steve > __________ > I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl > with a scythe. - John > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:11:35 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Too much BSG? (NR) On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Steve Schiavo wrote: >> David Gibbs III, a lawyer who in 2005 fought to keep brain-damaged >> Terri Schiavo on life support, told rally participants gay marriage >> would "open the door to unusual marriage in North Carolina. "Why >> not polygamy, or three or four spouses?" Gibbs asked. "Maybe people >> will want to marry their pets or robots." > > Here we go again... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:37:22 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Too much BSG? (NR) On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Mar 5, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > David Gibbs III, a lawyer who in 2005 fought to keep brain-damaged Terri >>> Schiavo on life support, told rally participants gay marriage would "open >>> the door to unusual marriage in North Carolina. "Why not polygamy, or three >>> or four spouses?" Gibbs asked. "Maybe people will want to marry their pets >>> or robots." >>> >> >> >> > > Here we go again... I think that most people in North Carolina, given the chance, would marry four or five robot pets of their own gender. They're just embarrassed to admit it. Come on... http://wallpapers.free-review.net/wallpapers/21/Entertainment_Robot_Aibo_-_Dogs.jpg ...you know you wanna. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:48:06 -0500 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Sebastian, you got some 'splainin' to do ... Making a hasty getaway after the Collapsed Cologne Archives Caper, then? http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4072655,00.html Stewart (joking) - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:57:58 -0800 From: "Bri N" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #54 1stly, Goodnight Oslo is great. Not my favorite by far, but a sticker. And one that makes me happy to know Robyn is where he is during this point in his life. This is good stuff! Your Head Here reminds me of Out Of Time REM somehow. Looking fwd to the inbetween V3 album. When is this supposed to be released? Jeremy Osner wrote: > The only RH video I can recall ever seeing on MTV, was "Raymond > Chandler Evening", which IIRC was briefly on the MTV top ten for some > genre like "College". But I never watched a lot of MTV. There is a > great video on YouTube of an Egyptians television appearance which I > think is MTV. RH&TE were on 120 Minutes and Post-Modern MTV fairly regularly, including a few performances. Not quite The Cure-R.E.M.-Depeche Mode regularly, but XTC regularly (and Nevermind did kick Perspex Island off the top of the College Charts after it had tied the record for most weeks there, which is the one thing Robyn can always say he almost has in common with Michael Jackson). Robyn also guest hosted 120 at least once, during the interlude between Dave Kendall and Lewis Largent; premiered a video by one of his daughter's favorite bands who were due to guest host the following week. Debuted the video to "I Feel You" by one of Maisie's favorites at the time, Depeche Mode, who in what could definitely be considered foreshadowing of their upcoming tour (later named the most decadant rock tour ever, so eat that Kiss!) were then too hungover the next week to handle their guest hosting slot alone, so Matt Pinfield had to be brought in to keep them from falling over. - ----------------------- Nuppy again: I still have an old Beta tape I need to convert... It's a TV performance of RHE on 'Too Hip For TV" doing a great version of UNSETTLED and I'M ONLY YOU, circa 1988. I've never seen it on youtube. - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:50:59 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Sebastian, you got some 'splainin' to do ... I'm curious as to that the "restaurateurs" are doing - providing lunch for the archivists? It's stuff like this that makes me grateful for people like the Long Now Foundation kids and their library project. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Stewart Russell wrote: > Making a hasty getaway after the Collapsed Cologne Archives Caper, then? > http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4072655,00.html > > Stewart > (joking) > > -- > http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:55:56 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Sebastian, you got some 'splainin' to do ... - -- Stewart Russell is rumored to have mumbled on 5. Mdrz 2009 13:48:06 -0500 regarding Sebastian, you got some 'splainin' to do ...: > Making a hasty getaway after the Collapsed Cologne Archives Caper, then? > http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4072655,00.html > > Stewart > (joking) I didn't think that would make the international news (and in fact your source is "only" Deutsche Welle). Fortunately it seems as though only 2 people have died and I remain optimistic regarding the documents. I actually spent a week in the archive in the mid-80s, when I chose it for a History school project. I was against the subway extension that probably caused the collapse, but for different reasons (too expensive, much more could've been done for the same money overground). It bugs me that now the Monday morning quarterbacking (I choose this American expression considering the main audience of the list) is rampant and everybody and their grandmother claims to always have known that something like this would happen. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:01:00 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Fretless bassists >Has anyone mentioned Jaco Pastorius yet? > > >First fretless bassist to come to mind...except Charlotte specified >"rock/pop" rather than "jazz/funk"...and Pastorius is definitely in >the jazz camp (if not "funk" precisely). True, but did do quite a bit of cross-genre work - Joni Mitchell's wonderful "Hejira" album comes to mind, for instance. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:03:58 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Rock drummers: click track or no? Plamere does the research: http://musicmachinery.com/2009/03/02/in-search-of-the-click-track/ J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #65 *******************************