From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #41 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, February 10 2009 Volume 17 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Rain [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Rain [Rex ] Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) [Sumiko Keay ] Re: BSG (which I care slightly more for than Rush, 'cause I'm GDI) [Miles] SYD BARRETT AND PINK FLOYD BOOK 5 February 2009 [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Obscure rock trivia at ten paces [Great Quail ] Re: In defense of Rick Rubin [Great Quail ] Re: Rain [2fs ] Re: FSM works In strange Ways ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) [2fs ] Video Of The Moment ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) [Sumiko Keay ] Re: BSG (which I care slightly more for than Rush, 'cause I'm GDI) [Rex <] Re: BSG (which I care slightly more for than Rush, 'cause I'm GDI) [Miles] Re: Kinks [kevin studyvin ] Re: In defense of Rick Rubin [kevin studyvin ] Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) [lep Subject: Re: Rain > Is there any > substantiation for this? Wikipaedia's article on backmasking gives the Beatles credit for "popularizing" backmasking and says both Lennon and George Martin claim to have invented the technique, which it however says was used as early as the 50's in musique concrete recordings. It was used first in "Tomorrow Never Knows" and later in "Rain". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josx Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:56:23 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Rain On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > Is there any > > substantiation for this? > > Wikipaedia's article on backmasking gives the Beatles credit for > "popularizing" backmasking and says both Lennon and George Martin > claim to have invented the technique, which it however says was used > as early as the 50's in musique concrete recordings. It was used first > in "Tomorrow Never Knows" and later in "Rain". > Surely "Paperback Writer"/"Rain" predated the Revolver album, right? Or is that just the release order, not the session order? That may just be the best single evar. I kinda want it. I can listen to a recreation of it any time I want, but to possess an object of such concentrated awesomeness would be quite a thing. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:09:59 -0600 From: Sumiko Keay Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) AJ has opera training. Does that count? Sumi On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:28 PM, wrote: > Chris said: > >> obvious -- but it was still quite good. And Alessandro Juliani's >> performance was simply great. > > Agreed. I wonder if he's done any stage work. I would love to see him tackle some > Shakespeare. > >> >> I've often thought >> about not watching any Buffy for a couple of months and then watching the >> whole series (plus Angel) strictly in order, one episode or two-parter a >> day, while keeping a diary of my reactions. The hard part is that first >> part about not watching for a few months. Maybe this is the year I'll do >> it. >> >> Is that geeky enough? Or should I point out that I like Rush too? > > Yeah, well, I used to have to enforce that one on myself with the Lord of the Rings > (books), I reread them so often, so there you go. > > > and Sebastian wrote: > >> >> Yes, and I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. I guess I'll >> get the entire series on DVD when a box set comes out, and maybe then I >> will understand it, but right now I can't wait for it to be over. Basically >> all I care about right now is how it ends. I'm not invested in any of the >> characters anymore. I'm all for characters having weaknesses, but BSG is >> taking things too far. > > It really doesn't help that most of the hot boys are confusingly similar in appearance. > I still can't keep track of which one was married to/betrayed whom, and thus am > surprised when random people are mad at the pretty bare-armed lunkhead currently > on-screen. And Baltar's Krazy Kultists all have Flight of the Conchord's Mel-style > beady-eyed stares and it creeps me out. Still, I'm hooked. > > Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:32:54 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:28 PM, wrote: > It really doesn't help that most of the hot boys are confusingly similar in appearance. > I still can't keep track of which one was married to/betrayed whom, and thus am > surprised when random people are mad at the pretty bare-armed lunkhead currently > on-screen. You're confusing this with the BBC's 1994 production of MIDDLEMARCH, whose casting person pretty much picked variations on a theme for Will, Lydgate, and Fred. Plus they cast a way-too-thin Dorthea. (And there would have never been a more perfect Celia than Kate Winslet, but that window has passed age-wise.) Anyways, wow. I don't think Apollo, Helo, Sam, or Hot Dog (or more accurately, I guess, the actors portraying them) look much alike, other than the fact that they're usually in uniforms. I don't have any trouble telling them apart. And hey, I'm all caught up on BSG thanks to Lauren and TiVo! >And Baltar's Krazy Kultists all have Flight of the Conchord's Mel-style > beady-eyed stares and it creeps me out. The one with the sick kid is Keegan Connor Tracy, who to me is always "the weird-eyed daughter from BEGGARS AND CHOOSERS." So I'm sorta glad to see her again because I loved BEGGARS AND CHOOSERS, and on BSG it's a context where a beady-eyed stare is entirely appropriate, so it's good casting. BEGGARS AND CHOOSERS was a very entertaining show, IMO, and one of the Great TV Performances Nobody's Seen was Charlotte Ross' turn as Lori Volpone. Too bad the DVDs have been put on hold and, at this point, might never see the light o' day. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:33:59 -0600 From: Gene Hopstetter Subject: Re: In defense of Rick Rubin > From: 2fs > > Makes Richard Harvey sound like an asthmatic sheep with a flatulence > problem. You mean Richard Butler? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:22:16 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: BSG (which I care slightly more for than Rush, 'cause I'm GDI) On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:38 PM, David Witzany wrote: > Slightly off-topic, does anyone else here always think of Dungeons and Dragons when they hear the name Kobol? No, but when they talk about the planet Gelatinouscubiczirconia, you just can't help but think of D&D. It's funny how Gygax and company lifted that one obscure thing (Kobolds) from German folklore, and they're been in almost every fantasy role playing game since. They're all over World of Warcraft, for example. At least WoW doesn't make you kill rats for your first quest, unlike almost every other computer RPG since the dawn of time... later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:32:14 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: SYD BARRETT AND PINK FLOYD BOOK 5 February 2009 http://www.yourwaytomusic.com/syd-barrett-and-pink-floyd-book/ SYD BARRETT AND PINK FLOYD BOOK 5 February 2009 by admin filed under Books Leave a comment This in-depth analysis of Pink Floyd founding member Syd Barrett s life and work is the product of years of extensive research and met with widespread acclaim upon its original publication. 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Which of these British musicians was offered, and refused, a knighthood? A) David Bowie B) Van Morrison C) Joe Strummer D) Keith Richards E) Madonna 4. "Cans of Piss" was/were: A) What Melody Maker called "Can of Bees" in their original review. B) A famously failed Schlitz marketing campaign. C) An early choice for the name of R.E.M. D) What Lou Reed disparagingly called recently unearthed VU demo reels. E) The phrase Eddie Tews wrote again and again all over his 2008 tax forms. 5. Keyboardist extraordinaire Rick Wakeman has played with all these musicians except which ONE: A) Black Sabbath B) Elton John C) David Bowie D) Chaka Khan E) Trick question -- all of the above! 6. Match the professional names above (Roman numerals) with the actual persons below (ABCDE): I. Elvis Costello II. Geddy Lee III. Joey Ramone IV. Fish V. Jethro Tull A) Gary Weinrib B) Jeffry Ross Hyman C) Derek William Dick D) Declan McManus E) No, really, some guy invented the seed drill in the 1700s - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:38:58 -0500 From: Great Quail Subject: Re: BSG (which I care slightly more for than Rush, 'cause I'm GDI) > Slightly off-topic, does anyone else here always think of Dungeons and Dragons > when they hear the name Kobol? Man, that's "Kobolds," and the little dog men live in the caves. - --Q. PS: The big dog men live in the hills.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:46:28 -0500 From: Great Quail Subject: More on The Who E.E. "Doc" Smith, the last Lensman, writes: > I'd have to disagee there. In terms of sheer raw power, The Who was > completely untouchable. Well, in terms of sheer power, I would put Led Zeppelin up against them rather than the Stones. I suppose I was just thinking "best hard rock/classic rock band." But you make a persuasive argument. >A wry observer noted that the strength of the band > was not in the Entwhistle-Moon connection, but the Moon-Townshend connection. I love watching the two of them interact between songs, if only because Moon constantly brings Pete down to earth. You know, Pete's all "blah blah blah" and Moon is making faces, dropping wry comments into the microphone, drunkenly flinging pins into Pete's pretentiously ballooning ego, etc. Sometimes it looks like Pete may strangle him Bart Simpson-style. > I got my copy yesterday. I listened to it at work today, and I found myself > drifting out during the last four songs (meaning I was ignoring the music, > rather than soaking it in), so I suspect the album is like JFS, terribly > front-loaded. I hope I am wrong. It *is* front-loaded; but the last song, "Goodnight Oslo," is a real keeper. > Christ, I'm going to be ejected from this list for the following: I still can > listen to Kansas. And Rush. But no King Crimson. No. Really? Well, I mean -- I actually have a soft spot for Kansas, I like their early stuff just fine. (My prog DJ friend calls Kansas an example of "Douche-Prog," along with groups like Asia and Styx.) But King Crimson, wow - -- hell, even rock critics like King Crimson! >> "Rain" is definitely my favorite Beatles song. Actually, it's one of mine, too.... - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:11:29 -0500 From: Great Quail Subject: Re: In defense of Rick Rubin Rex writes, > As to Rubin (and I see that, yeah, for some reason we're going to have to > debate every known showbiz personality from "Rus-" backwards > alphabetically), Oh man. Please can we skip Trevor Rabin? >"Hurt" and "Personal Jesus" make me throw up in my mouth a little. Interestingly, you picked two of my favorites. I like both of them because they are good examples of the way Cash's presence and delivery can recontextualize songs. "Hurt" is transformed from a theatrical display of self-pity to a song with gravitas and meaning; and "Personal Jesus" has its irony brought closer to home -- as one reviewer put it, when Cash sings "Personal Jesus," it sounds like he's a traveling preacher stealing hearts along the road. > I'm just left to surmise that, even though you admit to a certain level of > self-obsession, it goes deeper than you are willing to admit, or are even > aware of. That's fine-- I don't like to play armchair analyst, so I'll > leave it at that. What goes deeper? What are you talking about? Really? I feel like you are psychoanalyzing my -- what? Breadth of musical taste? > Erm... you categorized your "Best of 2008" list into genre pockets that > I couldn't even begin to fathom. They were: "Rock, Alternative & Pop," "Hip Hop/R&B," "Country & Folk," "Compilations," "Live Albums," "Experimental, Avant-Garde & Weird," and "Soundtracks." I can see who the "Experimental" category may be a bit off-putting, but...? > I'm > of the school that sees genre lines as too blurry to even signify; you've > got something else entirely going on. Well, I write science books for a living. Classification is in my blood. It's nothing too sinister. And while certainly some genre lines are blurred, there's still a big difference between a Lustmord album and the new Hank III, so I like to have them referenced differently. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:24:45 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Rain On 2/10/09, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > Is there any > > substantiation for this? > > > Wikipaedia's article on backmasking gives the Beatles credit for > "popularizing" backmasking and says both Lennon and George Martin > claim to have invented the technique, which it however says was used > as early as the 50's in musique concrete recordings. It was used first > in "Tomorrow Never Knows" and later in "Rain". > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backmasking "Rain" preceded "TNK"...by about a week. See this invaluable resource: . I think the claim is that it's the first use of reversed sound in a pop recording. Incidentally, I'm sticking a finger in the dike here...but I really hate that the accepted term for "sound reversed on a recording" has become "backmasking." That term was, so far as I know, invented by idiot Jesus freaks who claimed that such material was used to "mask" nefarious messages, often satanic in content. This is, as Penn Jillette would say, bullshit: there is, first of all, no evidence or reason to imagine that humans can understand words backwards. More to the point, reversed sounds are rarely used to "mask" anything: they're simply an effect. (Of course, sometimes "hidden messages" were put on in reverse, for fun...but the general use of "backmasking" is a sad comment on the power of Jesoids to influence culture.) > > > J > > If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the > essential words. -- Josx Saramago > http://www.readin.com/blog/ > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:25:55 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: FSM works In strange Ways well, i'll ask you the same thing i asked jeff n.: if they're no longer housed in boxes, how in sam hell is it then "more appropriate" to call it a "box set" (or a "boxset")? if you wanna argue that we should be using the term "booked set" now, i'll follow you there. otherwise, i'm completely at a loss to suss out the logic being employed in this argument. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:26:31 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) On 2/10/09, Miles Goosens wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:28 PM, wrote: > > > It really doesn't help that most of the hot boys are confusingly similar in appearance. > > I still can't keep track of which one was married to/betrayed whom, and thus am > > surprised when random people are mad at the pretty bare-armed lunkhead currently > > on-screen. > Anyways, wow. I don't think Apollo, Helo, Sam, or Hot Dog (or more > accurately, I guess, the actors portraying them) look much alike, > other than the fact that they're usually in uniforms. I don't have > any trouble telling them apart. I confess that at first, I kept mixing up Apollo and Helo. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:31:43 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Obscure rock trivia at ten paces Ah hell - I'll play. On 2/10/09, Great Quail wrote: > I accept the terms, and I will fire first! But no use of the Internet -- > only your own vast wealth of knowledge and any Kerrang! magazines you may > have within reach. That may be my downfall - as I know jack about metal (and that doesn't bother me). > > And my six-shooter fires:-- > > 1. What is the name of Rush's original drummer? > > A) Phil Ehart - that's Kansas's drummer! > C) John Rutsey > > 2. All of these bands took their name from other musicians/albums/songs > except which ONE: > > > B) Duran Duran > From a movie - errr, Barbarella, w/Jane Fonda floating nude in space, right? > > 3. Which of these British musicians was offered, and refused, a knighthood? > > A) David Bowie > B) Van Morrison > C) Joe Strummer > D) Keith Richards > E) Madonna (ha ha) Not sure - I'm gonna guess Bowie. > > 4. "Cans of Piss" was/were: > > A) What Melody Maker called "Can of Bees" in their original review. > B) A famously failed Schlitz marketing campaign. > C) An early choice for the name of R.E.M. > D) What Lou Reed disparagingly called recently unearthed VU demo reels. > E) The phrase Eddie Tews wrote again and again all over his 2008 tax forms. All of the above. > > 5. Keyboardist extraordinaire Rick Wakeman has played with all these > musicians except which ONE: > > A) Black Sabbath > B) Elton John > C) David Bowie > D) Chaka Khan > E) Trick question -- all of the above! Damn, that's tough. If you'd thrown Lou Reed in there, I know he's played w/him (and Bowie). I'll guess "Elton John"... > > 6. Match the professional names above (Roman numerals) with the actual > persons below (ABCDE): > > I. Elvis Costello D > II. Geddy Lee A > III. Joey Ramone B > IV. Fish must be C although i do not care > V. Jethro Tull E > > A) Gary Weinrib > B) Jeffry Ross Hyman > C) Derek William Dick > D) Declan McManus > E) No, really, some guy invented the seed drill in the 1700s I forgot to ask what happens if I lose - I can only hope it does not involve any seed drills. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:43:14 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Video Of The Moment . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:51:50 -0600 From: Sumiko Keay Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) My goodness. They look nothing alike, plus Helo is like, 2 feet taller than Apollo and in season 1 - Helo was planetside and Apollo was aboard ship. Sumi On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM, 2fs wrote: > On 2/10/09, Miles Goosens wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:28 PM, wrote: >> >> > It really doesn't help that most of the hot boys are confusingly similar in appearance. >> > I still can't keep track of which one was married to/betrayed whom, and thus am >> > surprised when random people are mad at the pretty bare-armed lunkhead currently >> > on-screen. > >> Anyways, wow. I don't think Apollo, Helo, Sam, or Hot Dog (or more >> accurately, I guess, the actors portraying them) look much alike, >> other than the fact that they're usually in uniforms. I don't have >> any trouble telling them apart. > > I confess that at first, I kept mixing up Apollo and Helo. > > -- > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:15:30 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: In defense of Rick Rubin Quail-Fighting Services unavailable today. Have become engrossed in Donald Duck comic. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:18:29 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: BSG (which I care slightly more for than Rush, 'cause I'm GDI) On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Miles Goosens wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:38 PM, David Witzany > wrote: > > Slightly off-topic, does anyone else here always think of Dungeons and > Dragons when they hear the name Kobol? > Erm... it makes me think of Battlestar Galactica... the old one. Pyramid planet in a big void, second episode. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:27:28 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: BSG (which I care slightly more for than Rush, 'cause I'm GDI) On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Rex wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Miles Goosens > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:38 PM, David Witzany >> wrote: >> > Slightly off-topic, does anyone else here always think of Dungeons and >> > Dragons when they hear the name Kobol? > > > Erm... it makes me think of Battlestar Galactica... the old one. Pyramid > planet in a big void, second episode. And the planet by the same name in the new one plays a big role in a S1 story arc. Hence it being talked about in a BSG thread here. :) I never saw a single episode of it back in the day. I think I was borderline too old for it anyway, but all I had was NBC, and it was on, as Carson was forced to say back in those days, "another network." When I finally saw a few of 'em, I was an adult, and the show seemed dated in an unpleasant way, and really unappealingly sexist and stupid. And that's why I didn't take a flyer on the new one until it was well underway (I think between halves of Season Two). I mean, how could anything called BATTLESTAR GALACTICA be any good? And here I am now, ready to crown it The Best TV Series I Have Ever Seen as long as they don't fuck up the last four episodes. Life never goes like you expect it to, for good or ill. This is one of the good unexpected-by-me things. :) later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:30:37 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Kinks In retrospect it appears I have once again, as I almost always do, confused Dedicated Follower Of Fashion with A Well Respected Man. The latter we would have picked up c. 1966; I'm not sure I heard the former until The Kinks Kronikles. On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM, kevin studyvin > wrote: > > As a youth in South California I clearly remember a bunch of Kinks > singles > > coming out of LA radio, of which Dedicated Follower Of Fashion was one. > And > > Sunny Afternoon, Who'll Be the Next In Line...lots of wonderful tunes. > And > > I have an indestructible memory of tooling across Lake Washington in the > > middle of the night c. 1969 with Victoria blasting out of the radio. So > we > > weren't entirely deprived. > > That's by far the exception, not the rule, so you should count > yourself lucky. It's like folks who grew up in the '80s in college > towns or within range of stations like KROQ or WXRT who think that the > Ramones and Elvis Costello and R.E.M. (pre-DOCUMENT) were on the radio > all the time. For them, sure; for 99% of the surface area of the > US... nope. > > later, > > Miles > -- > now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:49:28 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: In defense of Rick Rubin Carl Barks rules. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Rex wrote: > Quail-Fighting Services unavailable today. Have become engrossed in Donald > Duck comic. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:51:11 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) 2fs says: > On 2/10/09, Miles Goosens wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:28 PM, wrote: >> >> > It really doesn't help that most of the hot boys are confusingly similar in appearance. >> > I still can't keep track of which one was married to/betrayed whom, and thus am >> > surprised when random people are mad at the pretty bare-armed lunkhead currently >> > on-screen. > >> Anyways, wow. I don't think Apollo, Helo, Sam, or Hot Dog (or more >> accurately, I guess, the actors portraying them) look much alike, >> other than the fact that they're usually in uniforms. I don't have >> any trouble telling them apart. > > I confess that at first, I kept mixing up Apollo and Helo. that 'cause you're a guy (for the record, lee is delicate-yet-still-strongly-handsome and helo is rugged-handsome.) i think that what makes the guy characters difficult to juggle at first (for the guys that is - i'm more than happy to juggle them) is, as miles mentioned (1) the uniforms, but also (2) the call names (anyone who's been a pilot has two names.) BSG (dated) triva: i'm assuming everyone knows that hot dog is, in real life, eddie olmos' son? when "razor" aired, some of the critic mentioned that the guy who played the young husker looked quite a bit more like olmos than his son does (granted, with young adama, they were trying, whereas with hot dog they are likely trying not to.) xo lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:28:24 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:51 PM, lep wrote: > BSG (dated) triva: i'm assuming everyone knows that hot dog is, in > real life, eddie olmos' son? when "razor" aired, some of the critic > mentioned that the guy who played the young husker looked quite a bit > more like olmos than his son does (granted, with young adama, they > were trying, whereas with hot dog they are likely trying not to.) Young Husker was doing a wicked Edward James Olmos. It wasn't parodic at all, but so well done, from the casting to the voice to the expressions, that it kept making me chuckle. One of the series' less-heralded great moments. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:41:32 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: BSG (which I care slightly more for than Rush, 'cause I'm GDI) Miles says: > And here I am now, ready to crown it The Best TV Series I Have Ever > Seen as long as they don't fuck up the last four episodes. i love it when miles starts in with the sweet talk. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:43:37 -0600 (CST) From: David Witzany Subject: Re: Two good things about the Grammys My kid sister pointed out to me this past weekend that Levon Helm won a Grammy in 2008 for his album "Dirt Farmer", but the album actually came out a week after the Page/Krauss disc. I'd accuse the Academy of jimmying things to be sure Helm and P/K could both win, but "Dirt Farmer" won for Traditional Folk Album, and Our Hometown Girl won hers for Contemporary Folk Album. - ------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 13:46:12 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Two good things about the Grammys Jeremy Osner wrote: > I saw in the paper this morning that "Raising Sand" was the best > album of the year, and it made me think the judges have pretty good > taste. (Somehow my memory skipped a year; I thought that had come > out in 2007. Either way it's a fine record.) It did; it's just that the Grammy year is something like October to September, rather than a proper calender year. Dave. David Witzany ...one of nature's witzany@uiuc.edu bounds checkers ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #41 *******************************