From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #40 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, February 10 2009 Volume 17 : Number 040 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Goodnight Oslo ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Setting the record straight re: Mr. Johnny Cash [2fs ] Re: In defense of Rick Rubin [2fs ] Re: Goodnight Oslo [2fs ] Re: BSG (which I care slightly more for than Rush, 'cause I'm GDI) [David] Re: Kansas [Steve Schiavo ] Re: In defense of Rick Rubin [Rex ] Re: In defense of Rick Rubin ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail [michael wells ] Re: In defense of Rick Rubin [Steve Schiavo ] RE: The Who [Michael Sweeney ] Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) [djini@voicenet.com] Re: Kinks [Michael Sweeney ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V17 #37 [] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail [Terrence Marks ] Re: Satan works In strange Ways [lep ] Fwd: cin-o-matic.com watch list notification - Obscene [lep ] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Rain [Jeremy Osner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:08:37 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo Great Quail wrote: > > Anyway, it all makes me happy. Two great albums this year so far for me -- > Animal Collective and now Robyn. Can't comment on GO, but the Animal Collective is great. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:13:13 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Setting the record straight re: Mr. Johnny Cash On 2/9/09, Great Quail wrote: > > Errr... (1) I don't think Doug's here anymore, and (2) I know Doug, > > and that doesn't seem to describe him or his taste very well at all. > > > > Plus he's a super-nice guy. > > > Relax. No, dmw is not here anymore, and yes, he is a super-nice guy. I was > just referring to the fact that he generally knows a hell of a lot about > obscure indie bands. Ha. I do not accept your apology. I demand satisfaction. Obscure rock trivia at ten paces, sir! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:15:25 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Satan works In strange Ways On 2/9/09, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > Balderdash. > > Horse-pucky.> > > well, the reason i didn't present an argument is that i've already done so > before now. from > : And since the idiot you were arguing with back then did such a lame-ass job of defending it - oh, wait. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:22:56 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: In defense of Rick Rubin On 2/9/09, Great Quail wrote: > I *know* that Geddy Lee is a better > bass player than Jesus. Yeah, but that's only because Jesus took up bass only *after* He was resurrected...and it's pretty difficult to play bass with those wounds. Plus He was dedicating more time to the crumhorn - on which, trust me, He is simply amazing. Makes Richard Harvey sound like an asthmatic sheep with a flatulence problem. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:26:01 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo On 2/9/09, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Great Quail wrote: > > > > Anyway, it all makes me happy. Two great albums this year so far for me -- > > Animal Collective and now Robyn. > > > Can't comment on GO, but the Animal Collective is great. I heard two-three tracks off an AC album a few years back, liked 'em well enough (the one I remember is "Who'll Win a Rabbit"), picked up the CD for cheap...and didn't really like it - thought it was too rambling. The new AC album has been getting such an extended blowjob from the press that their cheeks must be getting numb - makes me suspicious, and having been slightly burned last time, I'm kinda disinclined to check it out... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:38:22 -0600 (CST) From: David Witzany Subject: Re: BSG (which I care slightly more for than Rush, 'cause I'm GDI) If I might be more extremely retro, I'm only up to disc 3 of Season 2, so pretty much anything any of you say about BSG constitutes a spoiler to me. I realize I have no business kvetching, of course; I might ask, though, that you not blurt out the identities of the final toasters unless, like, you really have to. On a related subject--have any of you played the BSG board game by Fantasy Flight? A random player representing a principal crew member is a Cylon at the beginning of the game, and after fighting to get halfway to Kobol, a second player often discovers that they've been a sleeper all along. Baltar and Sharon have twice the chance, beginning/middle respectively. Great, great fun, requiring no actual knowledge of the show (although it helps, of course--Season One, anyway.) Slightly off-topic, does anyone else here always think of Dungeons and Dragons when they hear the name Kobol? Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:52:35 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) Okay, okay, you folks with cable TV - - WATCH IT ON THE FRAKKIN SPOILERS! (there were none here, really...but I was a bit worried on the Baltar bit). Some of us are waiting until our new MacBook arrives so we can watch the damned thing on iTunes w/the aid of I forget which hookup device to the TV screen which our current five-year-old moribund non-Mac laptop lacks... And pity the folks w/crap computers or connections or who don't like iTunes and who'll have to wait (like we did) for the DVD... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:55:48 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Kansas >> Bands named after English places tend to be strange, edgy indie >> bands. On Feb 9, 2009, at 4:35 PM, 2fs wrote: > If U.K. counts, exception Hatfield and the North. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:16:08 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: In defense of Rick Rubin On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Great Quail wrote: > > Liking, or not liking, hip hop has nothing to do with any > perceptions I may or may not have about your personality. I was simply > mistaken. Okay, so then the wording "you've admitted to not liking hip hop" didn't carry the mocking disdain that I saw in it? You'll have to forgive me... in context, it seemed rather barbed. As to Rubin (and I see that, yeah, for some reason we're going to have to debate every known showbiz personality from "Rus-" backwards alphabetically), I guess that, too, is a matter of taste. The guy has his hands on some work that's really important to me, but things he's involved with that don't do anything for me... *really* don't do anything for me, Slayer included. I recognize him as a pretty astute marketer, I guess, but his weathervane tilts in a different direction from my own, so don't I take his involvement in any given project as an indicator that I'm going to like it. > > Most of the performances on those Cash records are > > great, but I think it's down to it usually being just JC and his > guitar... I > > give Rubin credit for insisting upon that, but some of his song choices > > clunk hard upon my ears. > > "Some" out of, what, a few hundred? Sure, now that the complete sessions have been released, but I was speaking as someone who listened to the records as they were released, and felt that just about all of them had really wince-inducing picks in inopportune places. "Hurt" and "Personal Jesus" make me throw up in my mouth a little. > Erm... well, "genre-fixated" means "fixated upon genre", in your case > without any particular reason other than self-identification as some kind of > authority (see "self-obsessed"). I'm still not clear what you mean. Really. I love music, Rex, I have > thousands of CDs, and even more MP3s. I see maybe 50-60 concerts a year, > from bar bands to operas. I mean, I joke about having the best musical > taste > on the list, whatever -- but I don't understand why you think I have no > "reason" to "fixate" on a genre other than "self-identification" as an > "authority." I'm just left to surmise that, even though you admit to a certain level of self-obsession, it goes deeper than you are willing to admit, or are even aware of. That's fine-- I don't like to play armchair analyst, so I'll leave it at that. > Ah, I see. I am sorry you think so. I can assure you, I have never > "championed" a band on account of my self-image. I do, however, have little > tolerance for narrow-minded and categorical dismissals such as "modern > music," or "pop," or "rap," or what have you. Erm... you categorized your "Best of 2008" list into genre pockets that I couldn't even begin to fathom. Apparently the same thing is true of your hard drive (if you know what I mean... no, pretend I didn't say that). I'm of the school that sees genre lines as too blurry to even signify; you've got something else entirely going on. > So when I hear that kind of > thing, this being a public list designed to discuss music, well -- I tend > to > leap in. Are you saying that you think I in some way dismissed something, or anything, on the basis of genre? That's flat out absurd. I've owned to not *liking* a very small set of musical styles-- well, pretty much just metal, most prog, and Andrew Lloyd Weber-type stuff-- but I've never held any genre to be categorically "bad". At all. Whatever gets you through the night, I figure, and I'm pretty adamant about that-- it's why I don't prosetylize. Well, you may rest easy, because I for one never believe that you're > actually self-effacing. Well, that just doesn't make any sense. When one make jokes about one's own failings-- and I do-- doesn't the reader pretty much have to take that as self-deprecation? Or do you have some kind of meta-meter that measures the sincerity of the written word? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:20:27 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: In defense of Rick Rubin 2fs wrote: > > Makes Richard Harvey sound like an asthmatic > sheep with a flatulence problem. But 2fs, the crumhorn's supposed to sound like that! Stewart (who has the ultra-rare Richard Harvey 1979 promo album "A New Way of Seeing" - just not sure where.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:24:07 -0600 From: michael wells Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail First to all the haters: fuck off. Rush rules. Even if you don't like them, as Jeffrey said, you can't deny the scope or influence of the work they have done. If you personally don't care for the singing, or the drumming (or indeed anything at al), you can't deny the breadth of people who *have* been attracted to the music. Doing so means you paint with too small a brush, judging only by a small sampling of their work and/or fan base. A band like Rush has existed long enough, and produced such a voluminous and diverse catalog, that they deserve consideration against a group with select few members for comparison. It should be said that back in the day listening to Rush didn't have a "geek" vibe - that started later. When I was a wee little Rush fan, sneaking into neighborhood parties to try and steal a warm beer off the keg, everyone listened to them. Straights, stoners, art-class kids, drop-outs, everyone. For each math-rock kid there were two more hitting the bong in the basement, lifting weights while listening to PERMANENT WAVES. You could count on finding a spooled out 8-track of 2112 under probably a third of the car seats in our neighborhood. But then older brothers went off to college, pubic hair came, Rush started wearing skinny ties and playing with synths, and Reagan was in the White House. Weird times. Rush did try to change as tastes did - and not always successfully. But through it all they have always appealed to enough different kinds of people at any one time to ensure steady album sales and mostly full arenas, blissfully obviating the need to suck the big music industry wazoo (Jann Wenner and his "hall of fame" being example 1A). To paraphrase big Frank, they're not going to go around explaining themselves; you either get it or you don't, and it's OK if you don't (well, it's OK with most Rush fans if you don't; there is the radical fringe that is scary even to us, which is presumably the diametrical opposite to those who hate Rush with such profound vitriol. Both sides are kind of scary in their single-minded feelings, they just happen to have them about a band which has tried hard not to inspire those types of feeling in *anyone*. Strange how it all works out). When I last had the Robyn-and-Rush conversation - perhaps with Ed Poole? - this fact that neither act really seems to give a shit what the "industry" thinks was one of the common threads. I have seen the 10th, 20th and 30th anniversary tours of the band, and they rocked harder at the last then ever before. In a world of mayhaps and maybes, if they get up and do three solid hours of high-skill, big noise RAWK then they can have my money. You don't have to give them yours, but you could give them props for still sticking to the plan all these years. Michael "why yes, my license plate DOES say YYZ, why do you ask?" the Michaelster ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:47:44 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: Satan works In strange Ways not so much *that* as that you declined altogether to respond to my arguments set forth in ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:49:15 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: In defense of Rick Rubin On Feb 9, 2009, at 9:22 PM, 2fs wrote: > Plus He was dedicating more time to the crumhorn - on which, trust me, > He is simply amazing. Maybe even awesome? - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:24:27 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: The Who Kevin wrote: >On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: Great Quail wrotes: >It just blows my mind, the way that Moon plays. I am never sure whether I am hearing a freakishly paradoxical>combination of raw chaos and surgical precision, or whether every note isguided by some unique navigation>system fueled by equal measures genius and ignorance. Just...amazing....Amen to all that (and, very well said!) -- and, as I think I may have saidbefore (but it always comes to mind for me w/Moonie), I always fascinatinglyjust LUVVED watching him play as closely as I could, usually being stunninglyunable to even follow the movements and strikings (most notably, hisoff-direction, almost casual-seeming hits) with the sound he produced. Thereare -- of course -- many different styles of drumming and so many excellentrock drummers, but...gawd, I cannot imagine ANYONE EVER being like Moon......Plus -- the poor dude was just so misguidedly cute (non-drunkpersonality-wise) -- I always saw Pete as trying to be so lovingly protectiveof his lil' buddy (as much as that was possible, anyway). Still can't believehe was barely 32 when he went...Michael "I know, I know -- Bruford (;->...just saving Kevin some typing time)"Sweeney >Regardless of my love for BB's playing I don't believe I've ever been guilty of dissing the Moon. I was totally broken up when he left the building. >They're certainly different - one cool, calm and professional and one a raving freak, but equally worth their weight in plutonium. They delineate >the ends of a spectrum, and there's plenty of room in the cosmos for each. ...Oh, I never thought (or meant to imply) that you were dissing Moonie at all (and, hey -- I really like BB, too)...I was just teasing ya (and me) a bit about the (pretty much) fact that whever there's a drummer discussion / mention out here, I bring up Keef and you bring up Broof...No problems at all... Michael "Ah, been a pretty busy posting -- and digesting -- day!" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:28:14 -0500 (EST) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) Chris said: > obvious -- but it was still quite good. And Alessandro Juliani's > performance was simply great. Agreed. I wonder if he's done any stage work. I would love to see him tackle some Shakespeare. > > I've often thought > about not watching any Buffy for a couple of months and then watching the > whole series (plus Angel) strictly in order, one episode or two-parter a > day, while keeping a diary of my reactions. The hard part is that first > part about not watching for a few months. Maybe this is the year I'll do > it. > > Is that geeky enough? Or should I point out that I like Rush too? Yeah, well, I used to have to enforce that one on myself with the Lord of the Rings (books), I reread them so often, so there you go. and Sebastian wrote: > > Yes, and I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. I guess I'll > get the entire series on DVD when a box set comes out, and maybe then I > will understand it, but right now I can't wait for it to be over. Basically > all I care about right now is how it ends. I'm not invested in any of the > characters anymore. I'm all for characters having weaknesses, but BSG is > taking things too far. It really doesn't help that most of the hot boys are confusingly similar in appearance. I still can't keep track of which one was married to/betrayed whom, and thus am surprised when random people are mad at the pretty bare-armed lunkhead currently on-screen. And Baltar's Krazy Kultists all have Flight of the Conchord's Mel-style beady-eyed stares and it creeps me out. Still, I'm hooked. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:48:15 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Kinks Miles wrote: >It's like folks who grew up in the '80s in college >towns or within range of stations like KROQ or WXRT who think that the >Ramones and Elvis Costello and R.E.M. (pre-DOCUMENT) were on the radio >all the time. For them, sure; for 99% of the surface area of the US... nope. ...Yeah, I was gonna say, my born-in-1962 familiarity with the Kinks was pretty deep (although I wasn't particularly a fan -- liked their stuff fine, though)...And I credit that to Chicago FM radio, most notably 'XRT. Can really make a difference... (PS - the 'XRT-in-the-day example -- and criticism -- I often make is that, beyond the deep urban stations, they almost simultaneously broke Prince in Chicago, getting me (and listeners like me) into "Soft and Wet" and "Wanna Be Your Lover" well before *(YEARS before) hit radio took on playing the Purple One. Of course, once he WAS so popular, the X stopped playing even the interesting, older, and non-hit songs of his...) Michael "Glad for Sirius these days..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:47:56 -0500 From: Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V17 #37 My impressions of my V17 #37: >From: Great Quail >Subject: The Who Jeff writes, >> Oh, I do hope it was clear my comparison was strictly rhetorical - I >> love the Who, and at their peak there was no one that could touch them >> - particularly Moon and Daltrey. Quail writes, >I wouldn't go as far as to say they were untouchable, but the Who were >definitely one of the greatest hard rock outfits at that time. (To put them >at the top neglects The Rolling Stones, which I cannot bring myself to do.) I'd have to disagee there. In terms of sheer raw power, The Who was completely untouchable. A wry observer noted that the strength of the band was not in the Entwhistle-Moon connection, but the Moon-Townshend connection. Townsend and Moon seemed to have this bizarre ability to anticipate each other's moves, and work with each other in lockstep, which gave them this unique ability to blast Pete's leads with Moon's atomic drumming. This freed up Entwhistle to create some enormously subtle and melodic bass parts, which (despite their skilled construction) thundered along behind. The wry observer was Keith Richards. <<<'scuse me, Surly Joe has come to collect my train ticket. The Chicago Metra rail system is populated with conductors, all named Surly Joe.>>> >From: kevin studyvin >Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Dwarf! >> Michael "Then again, I also (non-passionately) like the Smashing P's... The Pumpkins were the band that made me realize I was getting old. I couldn't get behind one more disaffected teen. >From: Great Quail >Subject: Goodnight Oslo >Holy cow! I love this album! I got my copy yesterday. I listened to it at work today, and I found myself drifting out during the last four songs (meaning I was ignoring the music, rather than soaking it in), so I suspect the album is like JFS, terribly front-loaded. I hope I am wrong. I'll be listening a lot over the next week or so. In any event, I am eagerly awaiting the outtakes album. I've found the material on the outtakes records seems to be stronger than the "A" release. >From: Miles Goosens >Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod >In the US, the Kinks are basically this: >* You Really Got Me >* All Day And All of the Night >* a minor smattering of Sunny Afternoon >* Lola >* Come Dancing I would add "Destroyer" to this list. (It's what made me buy "Give The People What They Want".) I heard this song pretty much all year in 1981, then it dropped off the face of the earth. >From: 2fs >Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Broome! >...It's a "mix tape": it is a >*mix* of songs, it is not "mixed" like a random assortment of nuts >(see: Alan Keyes fans). Christ, coffee just went up and out my nose. >From: Michael Sweeney >Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Broome! >Great Quail quail@shipwrecklibrary.com wrote: >>And Lord almighty, he *hates* Rush. Admires their work ethic, but hates >>them with a passion. But as he says, "They are better than Kansas." >..Well, I'll give you THAT... Christ, I'm going to be ejected from this list for the following: I still can listen to Kansas. And Rush. But no King Crimson. No. >From: Rex >Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod >"Rain" is definitely my favorite Beatles song. Seconded. When I was a nipper, I bought the 45 of "Paperback Writer", listened to it a couple of times, and then listened to "Rain". It went on repeat and didn't come off the turntable for hours. Same thing happened with "The Inner Light" (B Side of "Lady Madonna"). And people wonder why I'm in Lurk Mode... hope everyone's well... - -Doc This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:00:36 -0800 From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail > From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net > > I'll give Rush the thumbs up for a long career and huge sales for some very > good albums, but they have never released anything as great as Yes's "Close To > The Edge" or had the talent of that short lived > Squire/Bruford/Howe/Anderson/Wakeman line-up as far as I'm concerned. Too bad > it only last for a couple of albums. That Squire/Bruford rythym section is one > of my all time favorites. Mind you, Yes hasn't been inducted either. Terrence Marks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:00:40 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Satan works In strange Ways Nectar At Any Cost! says: > : fegQuote of the day for Thursday, July 14 2005: ``Aimee Mann doing a 'til Tuesday song is sure as fucking shit not a cover.'' - Jeff Dwarf as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:02:17 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Satan works In strange Ways oops, it was: , and not . i stand by the rest of my story. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:00 AM, lep wrote: > Nectar At Any Cost! says: >> : > > fegQuote of the day for Thursday, July 14 2005: > > ``Aimee Mann doing a 'til Tuesday song is sure as fucking shit not a > cover.'' - Jeff Dwarf > > as ever, > lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:08:38 -0500 From: lep Subject: Fwd: cin-o-matic.com watch list notification - Obscene dear cin-o-matic: tell it to mr. tews. as ever, lauren - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: cin-o-matic. com Date: Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:59 AM Subject: cin-o-matic.com watch list notification - Obscene To: softboygirl@gmail.com Hey softboygirl: "Obscene" is available on DVD/Video (February 10, 2009). * For more movie info and critic ratings: http://cin-o-matic.com/m.php?MID=2488 * To edit your Watch List: http://cin-o-matic.com/watchlist.php * To edit your email preferences: http://cin-o-matic.com/member-center.php * Feedback always welcome at feedback@cin-o-matic.com Thanks for using cin-o-matic.com - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:40:33 +0000 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: Kansas Another exception: Kilburn & The High Roads. of course, after adding the crap punk band 'London' to the list I'm all out of 'bands named after UK places'... answers on a postcard to the usual address. But where does this leave Scottish band Texas? c* On 10/02/2009, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > Bands named after English places tend to be strange, edgy indie bands. >>> >> > On Feb 9, 2009, at 4:35 PM, 2fs wrote: > > If U.K. counts, exception >> > > > Hatfield and the North. > > > - Steve > __________ > I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl > with a scythe. - John > > > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:57:09 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail michael wells wrote: > > Michael "why yes, my license plate DOES say YYZ, why do you ask?" the > Michaelster It really does. I've seen it. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:10:13 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Rain Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:37:23 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: I don't mind Here is a video of the boys singing "Rain". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTLJMSbEnn0 J * Thanks for this, Jeremy. That spoken bit at 2:30 - 2:38 isn't on the single. I assume that this was edited from an interview with George Harrison. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:00:56 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: In defense of Rick Rubin On 2/9/09, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > 2fs wrote: > > > > Makes Richard Harvey sound like an asthmatic > > sheep with a flatulence problem. > > > But 2fs, the crumhorn's supposed to sound like that! Bravo! Exactly the response I was soliciting... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:40:29 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Rain > * Thanks for this, Jeremy. That spoken bit at 2:30 - 2:38 isn't on the > single. I assume that this was edited from an interview with George > Harrison. Welcome -- I think that's right. Is Harrison claiming that this single is the first one ever to feature backwards vocals? Is there any substantiation for this? J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josx Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #40 *******************************