From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #36 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, February 9 2009 Volume 17 : Number 036 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: I Like Ike, I mean Rush [Michael Sweeney ] Re: Oscar Nominations ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: I Like Ike, I mean Rush [Rex ] Also very Cool ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #35 [James Dignan ] Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) [djini@voicenet.com] Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) [2fs ] Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod [Jeremy Osner ] Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod [2fs ] Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod [2fs ] Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod [Tom Clark ] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Broome! [Great Q] Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod [Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: I Like Ike, I mean Rush Rex wrote: >But I never had, and never will have, a college roommate who was in love with Coldplay, and I did have >one who was in love with Rush ...Ooh, in my case -- back in '80-'81 -- it was the college roommate who had almost only Kansas records, so...I definitely feel yer pain! Michael "At least I DID snatch his girlfriend for awhile bak then..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:25:36 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: Oscar Nominations dunno about that. but if isn't the coolest...poster...ever, then i'd surely love to see the one that is. but middle-infielders are expected to do things that don't necessarily win points for hall voters. play defense, for example. your argument would be analagous to arguing that offensive linemen shouldn't go into the football hall o' fame if they haven't scored at least fifty touchdowns (or what). no way in hell, mike. and trammel *does* deserve to be in the hall. but no GM in his or her right mind would pick trammel over ozzie. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:59:43 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: I Like Ike, I mean Rush On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > ...Ooh, in my case -- back in '80-'81 -- it was the college roommate who > had almost only Kansas records, so...I definitely feel yer pain! > DAMN. Wow. I got nothing next to that. I'd go back to 10 years of Queen before a semester of Kansas. I got a lot of guys at my work crankin' Iron Maiden and assorted other metal right now, and... I'm not minding it, really. It's unfamiliar enough to be a sort of interesting background puzzle for my brain while I'm otherwise occupied, in a way that Top 40 or Jack FM wouldn't be. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:17:05 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Also very Cool . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:32:21 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #35 > Stewart >(hope the knee's better, James!) much better - the other one's hurting more now :) Got to take things easy for a couple of weeks, but other than that it's fine. A shame since it's hot hot summer here (thankfully not as devastatingly so as in Australia, but it was still 28C/83F at midnight last night - the "coldest" it had been all day). James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:58:41 -0500 (EST) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) Lauren opined: > p.s. BSG season 4.5 rules. > But - but - it's been making me want to kill myself! Except for the Baltar scenes, which just reduce me to helpless laughter. (You're a fraud! No, you're the fraud! How 'bout us two frauds try to SAVE HUMANITY? As long as that means saving my ass first, then OK, cool, we could do that.) I know it will please Mr. Gross that I am re-watching Buffy, in its entirety. They're all so fresh-faced and chipper in the first season, sigh. I forgot how much the music was in the forefront in those early days. Lots of helium-voiced girl singers, who (to me) sound more like Darla than like Buffy. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:52:35 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) Okay, okay, you folks with cable TV - - WATCH IT ON THE FRAKKIN SPOILERS! (there were none here, really...but I was a bit worried on the Baltar bit). Some of us are waiting until our new MacBook arrives so we can watch the damned thing on iTunes w/the aid of I forget which hookup device to the TV screen which our current five-year-old moribund non-Mac laptop lacks... And pity the folks w/crap computers or connections or who don't like iTunes and who'll have to wait (like we did) for the DVD... On 2/6/09, djini@voicenet.com wrote: > Lauren opined: > > > p.s. BSG season 4.5 rules. > > > > But - but - it's been making me want to kill myself! Except for the Baltar scenes, which > just reduce me to helpless laughter. (You're a fraud! No, you're the fraud! How 'bout us > two frauds try to SAVE HUMANITY? As long as that means saving my ass first, then OK, > cool, we could do that.) > > I know it will please Mr. Gross that I am re-watching Buffy, in its entirety. They're > all so fresh-faced and chipper in the first season, sigh. I forgot how much the music > was in the forefront in those early days. Lots of helium-voiced girl singers, who (to > me) sound more like Darla than like Buffy. > > Jeanne > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:17:28 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) 2fs says: > Okay, okay, you folks with cable TV - - WATCH IT ON THE FRAKKIN > SPOILERS! (there were none here, really...but I was a bit worried on > the Baltar bit). i know you're still on season 4.0 jeff so no spoilers. BTW, what episode are you on, or are you done the season? the final scene of season 4.0 was soooo killer - i never thought they could outdo themselves on that one, but they've done it four episodes in a row. > Some of us are waiting until our new MacBook arrives so we can watch > the damned thing on iTunes w/the aid of I forget which hookup device > to the TV screen which our current five-year-old moribund non-Mac > laptop lacks... > > And pity the folks w/crap computers or connections or who don't like > iTunes and who'll have to wait (like we did) for the DVD... perhaps i'll change my signature: "my dad has cable." plus, it takes all of three hours for the fans to encode a lovely 350MB file and upload it. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:22:13 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) jeannne says: > Lauren opined: > >> p.s. BSG season 4.5 rules. >> > > But - but - it's been making me want to kill myself! but...in a good way, right? > Except for the Baltar scenes, which > just reduce me to helpless laughter. (You're a fraud! No, you're the fraud! How 'bout us > two frauds try to SAVE HUMANITY? As long as that means saving my ass first, then OK, > cool, we could do that.) i adore baltar's character to no end. SCIFI just ran a "best quotes" thing for BSG and NOT ONE was a baltar quote. my favourite recent baltar quote was during "the oath" when he was saying "ARE WE CHILDREN?! well, obviously you're a child, there are some children here. but ARE WE CHILDREN?" but best baltar scene was when he was lamenting about cylon class structure to the centurion during "the hub." xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:50:06 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) On 2/8/09, lep wrote: > i know you're still on season 4.0 jeff so no spoilers. BTW, what > episode are you on, or are you done the season? Oh, we just finished 4.0...so now we're waiting. > > > > And pity the folks w/crap computers or connections or who don't like > > iTunes and who'll have to wait (like we did) for the DVD... > > > plus, it takes all of three hours for the fans to encode a lovely > 350MB file and upload it. Yes...but if you don't have a hookup to a TV set (which I did not), and you don't like watching things on a crappy computer screen (which we don't: even if one of us didn't mind, there's no angle for two people to see it and have it look good), you're still stuck. Frankly at this point trying to download 350MB would just freeze the damned laptop - I'm having to coddle it by doing only one thing at once, and that, slowly, so it doesn't decide to move ultrasupermegaslowly - by which I mean: I mouseover something now...uh-and two minutes later, the mouseover image appears. Can't do anything but shut it down. I'm just hoping it survives until ETA of the Mac which is Wednesday. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:17:46 -0600 (CST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, 2fs wrote: > And pity the folks w/crap computers or connections or who don't like > iTunes and who'll have to wait (like we did) for the DVD... I think that would be "and" rather than "or" linking those conditions seeing as how no one of them is sufficient. Heck, I watch all my television shows by pulling torrents through whichever neighbor's crappy wifi is availble and play it back on a modded XBox. J. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:02:01 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: BSG (because I have nothing to say about Rush) On 2/8/09, Capuchin wrote: > On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, 2fs wrote: > > > And pity the folks w/crap computers or connections or who don't like > iTunes and who'll have to wait (like we did) for the DVD... > > > > I think that would be "and" rather than "or" linking those conditions > seeing as how no one of them is sufficient. Any one of them is sufficient if someone's sufficiently lazy or untechly (to invent a word)... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:00:51 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Coraline (because I have nothing to say about BSG and the Rush thing is played out) It was awesome. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:59:44 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/music/article.html?On_My_iPod:_Robyn_Hitchcoc k&in_article_id=525302&in_page_id=25&in_a_source= On My iPod: Robyn Hitchcock by CLAIRE ALLFREE - Monday, February 9, 2009 The Beatles Robyn Hitchcock reveals what he's been putting on repeat on his iPod including tracks by Gillian Welch, The Beatles and Roxy Music. Candyman by Grateful Dead They were trying to sound like The Band on this. It's gentle but they also had that American gunslinger streak. It's something in the culture: guns and flowers are never far apart. Revelator by Gillian Welch I worked with Gillian and David Rawlings about three years ago. They're like a portable jam band: whenever they take off, they go into this little world. Their music just seems to take place and you eavesdrop on it. Rain by The Beatles This was Ringo's Hall of Fame moment; children would look at his drum fills like they would a woolly mammoth. And Lennon sounds like an old Native American stuck out on the plains. The Main Thing by Roxy Music This record's mood is almost a celebration of things not working out. Maybe he's already skulking on the veranda in the drizzle as somebody else gets the girl. Golden Years by David Bowie Bowie sounds like he's having a fantastic time being fabulous in Los Angeles in the mid-1970s, but in another way he's obviously having a terrible time. It's so catchy - most of it chugs along on two chords, and I still can't work out what he does on the chorus. Nightfall by The Incredible String Band This is a dreamy song that just builds up; it always makes me want to cry. It makes you think of a colourful night sky that's peaceful, sad and slightly threatening. Interview by Aaron Lavery Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 are currently on tour. Their new album Goodnight Oslo (Proper) is out today. my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 07:15:53 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod On 2/9/09, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/music/article.html?On_My_iPod:_Robyn_Hitchcoc > k&in_article_id=525302&in_page_id=25&in_a_source= > > On My iPod: Robyn Hitchcock > by CLAIRE ALLFREE - Monday, February 9, 2009 > Candyman by Grateful Dead > > Revelator by Gillian Welch > > Rain by The Beatles > The Main Thing by Roxy Music > Golden Years by David Bowie > Nightfall by The Incredible String Band Curiously, twenty-five years ago the exact same tracks were listed in the "What's On My Turntable?" feature for Robyn... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:49:50 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod "Rain" is a title I do not recognize. I asked Ellen about it and she said, "When the rain, falls down on our heads/ We might as well be --" then pointed at me and I said dead. I kind of recognized the melody. She's not sure what album it's from but thinks it is early. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:15 AM, 2fs wrote: > On 2/9/09, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: >> http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/music/article.html?On_My_iPod:_Robyn_Hitchcoc >> k&in_article_id=525302&in_page_id=25&in_a_source= >> >> On My iPod: Robyn Hitchcock >> by CLAIRE ALLFREE - Monday, February 9, 2009 > >> Candyman by Grateful Dead >> >> Revelator by Gillian Welch >> >> Rain by The Beatles > >> The Main Thing by Roxy Music > >> Golden Years by David Bowie > >> Nightfall by The Incredible String Band > > Curiously, twenty-five years ago the exact same tracks were listed in > the "What's On My Turntable?" feature for Robyn... > > -- > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:29:06 +0000 (UTC) From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Osner" To: "2fs" Cc: "Pigworkers Local 47" Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 8:49:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod >"Rain" is a title I do not recognize. I asked Ellen about it and she >said, "When the rain, falls down on our heads/ We might as well be --" >then pointed at me and I said dead. I kind of recognized the melody. >She's not sure what album it's from but thinks it is early. "Rain" was the b-side on the "Paperback Writer" single, released in June of 1966. It's on the Past Master Vol 2. album released in 1990, which I think is it's first appearance on an album. It didn't make it on theprevious B hits collection 1962-66 (The Red Album) as it wasn't a hit single, but "Paperback Writer" did show up on it. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:47:59 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:29 AM, wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeremy Osner" > To: "2fs" > Cc: "Pigworkers Local 47" > Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 8:49:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod > >>"Rain" is a title I do not recognize. I asked Ellen about it and she >>said, "When the rain, falls down on our heads/ We might as well be --" >>then pointed at me and I said dead. I kind of recognized the melody. >>She's not sure what album it's from but thinks it is early. > > "Rain" was the b-side on the "Paperback Writer" single, released in June of > 1966. It's on the Past Master Vol 2. album > > released in 1990, which I think is it's first appearance on an album. It > didn't make it on theprevious B hits collection 1962-66 (The Red Album) as it > wasn't a hit single, but "Paperback Writer" did show up on it. Correcto...and Robyn's covered it. I have a recording from the late '80s (I think) w/Messrs. Buck, Mills, and Holsapple helping out R. Hitchcock's Troupe of Egyptese Musickal Fantasists. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:39:28 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod it was on HEY JUDE LP 1970 my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 2/9/2009 9:33:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, michaeljbachman@comcast.net writes: released in 1990, which I think is it's first appearance on an album. It didn't make it on the previous B hits collection 1962-66 (The Red Album) as it wasn't a hit single, but "Paperback Writer" did show up on it. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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Time to go buy some albums. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:43:06 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > On Feb 9, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > >> "Rain" is a title I do not recognize. I asked Ellen about it and she >> said, "When the rain, falls down on our heads/ We might as well be --" >> then pointed at me and I said dead. I kind of recognized the melody. >> She's not sure what album it's from but thinks it is early. > > > Time to go buy some albums. Nah - I'd wait: as soon as the Beatles, their heirs, and their legal squad come to agreement, the remastered catalog is likely to be released (on iTunes, too) - what you can buy now, mostly, is late-80s-quality... (They're still dickering over the "Apple" thing, I read somewhere recently...) That said: absolutely, that stuff's pretty foundational, particularly for Robyn. (Ditto Bob Dylan up through at least '75, with scattered successes thereafter. Although, you know, probably _Self-Portrait_ can wait... I've never heard it, though.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.wordpress.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:06:25 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod On Feb 9, 2009, at 7:43 AM, 2fs wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Steve Schiavo > wrote: >> On Feb 9, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: >> >>> "Rain" is a title I do not recognize. I asked Ellen about it and she >>> said, "When the rain, falls down on our heads/ We might as well be >>> --" >>> then pointed at me and I said dead. I kind of recognized the melody. >>> She's not sure what album it's from but thinks it is early. >> >> >> Time to go buy some albums. > > Nah - I'd wait: as soon as the Beatles, their heirs, and their legal > squad come to agreement, the remastered catalog is likely to be > released (on iTunes, too) - what you can buy now, mostly, is > late-80s-quality... (They're still dickering over the "Apple" thing, I > read somewhere recently...) That lawsuit was resolved a couple of years ago, so it's just a matter of time. "Rain" falls into the same category as "Waterloo Sunset" for me: Old songs I wasn't familiar with until Robyn started covering them. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:40:48 -0500 From: Great Quail Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Broome! Rex writes, > Word to the wise: your overuse of this phrase is telling. You called me wise! >> a >> hatred so profound that it can only be expressed through statements of >> complete musical authority, as if the speaker is the ONLY PERSON ON EARTH >> qualified to make judgments about what is or is not "music." > > > But Quail... that's how you talk about *all* music. That's the exact tone > of your eight-paragraph *defense* of Rush, to cite just one example. But... I have the best musical taste on this List, as I believed I have proved again and again. So doesn't that put me in the exact position to make these judgments? > Even some of > my prog-friendly associates are embarrassed by Rush... they try to explain > it away, but they'd really rather change the subject. My friend is a prog DJ -- the biggest musical snob on the planet, too. If it's not a group that existed for twenty minutes in Belgium in between the break up of some RIO/Krautrock/Zeuhl band, he thinks they are sell-outs. And Lord almighty, he *hates* Rush. Admires their work ethic, but hates them with a passion. But as he says, "They are better than Kansas." I suppose that's something. I can see it on Geddy's headstone.... > But another key factor is: Rush fans. They really embarrass themselves with > their gushing, and they do a lot of preaching to people who (as they should > know) are unlikely to be converted. Oh! Did I embarrass myself? I'm sorry. Rush is just so unbelievably awesome, I couldn't help myself! They have their own Bobbleheads, you know. > They also tend to try to use oddly > empirical, point-by-point, near-mathematical tretises to "prove" their > point, Well, like sex, that Rush is AWESOME is beyond proof. But my "point" was that Rush should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which may be resolved through the impassionate and impartial calculus of reasonable argumentation, even, dare I say, *proven* -- as I did in my amazingly eloquent previous post. Frankly, I am surprised that you have not yet written me for a mixed tape. > Frankly, it grates on us. That grating sound you hear is the truth trying to set you free. I recommend locking yourself in a 1978 Pontiac Firebird and playing the "No More Oak Oppression" bootleg. Oh, and -- use headphones. > Socially normal music conversations tend to gravitate towards the common > ground of the participants. You're probably not going to talk to > your hip-hop friends about Robyn, Au contraire! Common ground serves as a foundational point to construct bridges and dig sapper-tunnels! I have an always-ready "Robyn Hitchcock Is Cool Mix" I freely hand out to all my musical friends. Though I confess, I usually try to turn hip hop fans onto country music, first. The common ground is even firmer. > and I'm not going to try to get a > bluegrass fan to give the Slits a try Well, I mean, of course -- the Slits suck. > Even Deadheads don't do > that. What? Are you INSANE? Deadheads are the most proselytizing music fans I've ever run across! Why, I am a Deadhead, and I get tired of other Deadheads trying to convert me. Jesus, with their blank, falafel eyes and that weird hand-wiggle, palms swimming through the patchouli vapors to the sounds of "Doin' That Rag." Christ. > Truth > is, most of us don't really even think about Rush except when someone gets, > like, "all up in our grill" about them. > nb. I haven't said anything negative about Rush themselves in this thread, > nor will I. Too much flint for the potential fire, you know. Would it be too close an advance to your "grill" to point out that the repeated labeling of a subject as an "embarrassment" is usually construed as negative? Or is this, perhaps, always been an issue with you...perhaps one might even suggest, some *formative* misunderstanding that has caused a form of irreparable damage to the normal feedback loops one relies on to help develop constructive patterns of social interaction...? - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:48:51 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod - -- Tom Clark is rumored to have mumbled on 9. Februar 2009 08:06:25 -0800 regarding Re: Robyn gives in and gets an iPod: > "Rain" falls into the same category as "Waterloo Sunset" for me: Old > songs I wasn't familiar with until Robyn started covering them. "Rain" I get, because I don't think I've ever heard that on the radio, but "Waterloo Sunset"?? I have no idea, are the Kinks not as big in the US as they are/were here? I don't think you could've avoided that one, had you lived in Germany. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #36 *******************************