From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #33 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, February 6 2009 Volume 17 : Number 033 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail [Rex ] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail [2fs ] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail [lep ] Re: mac novice queries [lep ] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail [Rex ] Re: mac novice queries [Rex ] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail ["C. Huff" ] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail [Rex ] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Dwarf! [Great Qu] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Dwarf! [Jeremy O] Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Dwarf! [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:30:21 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:06 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 2/5/09, Rex wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Miles Goosens > > > > > If your choices were The Stooges, Rush, and Seger... well, I think you > could > > make a pretty solid argument for all three > > Really? > > I think Iggy, if not the Stooges, should be a lock...and I've already > argued that, like 'em or not, Rush should be in there, too...but > Seger? Well, that's why I said you'd be looking at some very divergent forms of R'n'R. To me, yeah, non-entity, but when visiting family and friends in West Virginia, guess which one of the Unholy Trinity above appears most often on folks' CD racks? Alls I know is, when playing in bands around about there (and a couple of different kinds, too), I never once heard a request for a Stooges song, or a Rush song. But I have heard, more than once, "You know any Bob Seger?" or some variant thereof. Coulda been because my band looked more likely to know Seger than Rush and because nobody ever heard of the Stooges, but I digest. Point being that, while I can't see the appeal either, Seger, in the heartland (or flyover states or middle America or what have you), is definitely a force to be reckoned with. He's kind of in that same pantheon with Jimmy Buffett and Garth Brooks-- artists about whom it's hard to imagine anyone being passionate, and generally nobody around you personally is, but somewhere out there there, many people are nuts for 'em, and juke boxes are stocked accordingly. I reckon a solid majority of cover bands have been obliged to learn songs by Seger, because they are more useful in small-town nightlife than "Tom Sawyer" or "I Wanna Be Your Dog"... which to me implies that when the EMP hits and erases all recorded music, forcing people to return to the folk music and oral methods of musical transmission, it's quite possible that "Old Time Rock and Roll" will outlast all vestiges of Geddy and Iggy.* Is that a semi-solid, if anecdotal, argument? - -Rex *The Fall will still be going, though. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:47:10 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail On 2/5/09, Rex wrote: > > > > I think Iggy, if not the Stooges, should be a lock...and I've already > > argued that, like 'em or not, Rush should be in there, too...but > > Seger? > > > Well, that's why I said you'd be looking at some very divergent forms of > R'n'R. To me, yeah, non-entity, but when visiting family and friends in > West Virginia, guess which one of the Unholy Trinity above appears most > often on folks' CD racks? > > Point being that, while I can't see the appeal either, Seger, in the > heartland (or flyover states or middle America or what have you), is > definitely a force to be reckoned with. He's kind of in that same pantheon > with Jimmy Buffett and Garth Brooks-- artists about whom it's hard to > imagine anyone being passionate, and generally nobody around you personally > is, but somewhere out there there, many people are nuts for 'em, and juke > boxes are stocked accordingly. Sadly, this is correct. I *am* in the upper midwest - I suppose Seger's popular, but it seems kinda like air - I don't actually notice it. Can't speak to Garth Brooks...but Jimmy Buffett has his cultish fans with their obnoxious neo-colonialist idea of "tropical": every once in a while, I find myself puzzled at the animosity directed toward the Grateful Dead and Deadheads in particular...to understand, i just translate my feelings toward Buffett fans (and their stupid nickname). Although, c'mon: Buffett's written one song 837 times, hasn't he? At least the Dead wrote a respectable number of good songs. (Uh-oh...now I'm going to be defending the Grateful Dead, aren't I...) ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 01:12:50 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail Rex says: > Which puts you one of the two steps back that it takes to say, huh, even if > were done "right", the R&RHOF would be kind of silly. > > It must surely be very rare that anyone has the following thoughts in > earnest: > > -"I was on the fence about whether or not I should listen to (Artist A), > until I found out they were in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame... that tore > it, I had to check that shit out". > > -"I was thinking about listening to this record by (Artist B)... I had read > a few things about them that made them sound kind of interesting. But I > checked, and it turns out they're not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, so > why bother, really?" > > -"It seems like a lot of bands these days are trying to sound like (Artist > C), but that can't be the case. (Artist C) is not even influential enough > to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame." > > -or- > > "After being passed over for lo these many years, my favorite band > (Artist D) has finally been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. > In my heart of hearts, I have always known that my steadfast personal > support of (Artist D), even during the lean years, would one day help them > to achieve this great honor, but I could never have anticipated until this > very moment the true and gloriously life-affirming joy that I would > experience as they-- as *we*-- accepted the award. I can now die a happy > man. Beer bong." i see the rock 'n' rall hall of fame pretty much like the academy awards: the opinions expressed mean pretty much zero to me, but that sure as frak doesn't seem to prevent them from appalling me once a year. xo p.s. BSG season 4.5 rules. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 01:26:29 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: mac novice queries 2fs says: > 2) My music library lives on an external hard drive. I also have a > second external drive that I'll be using to back up that library (and, > probably, everything else - it looks like taht Time Capsule thing will > work well for that). Do I need to do anything other than connect the > music drive, fire up iTunes, and tell it to build its library from the > contents of that drive (aside from optional things, like whether I > want it to copy files automatically to the drive or rename files > automatically)? Specifically, of course, I don't want it erasing the > months of work I've put into getting those music files onto the drive! "my sources say no." please jump in if i'm incorrect, but i believe one has to decide whether to format a hard drive for mac or for windows. this is going back awhile, but some "computer dude" who does work for my father ordered a 160GB external maxtor for my father's computer. he was sent such a drive, but it said on the box it was specifically formatted for a mac (he was quite perplexed by this for some time, to the point where i ended up commenting to him "it's not going to change into a windows drive just by looking it." (N.B. the only reason we could plug it in to the machine was that i had installed a firewire card for my dad's ipod as the USB 1.1 wasn't exactly cutting the muster.) ("computer dude" later called maxtor tech support, and it turned out he *could* change it into a windows drive, but it involved the more "format" command and less staring.) dvds data discs, on the other hand, seem to have the same format between mac and windows. otherwise my life would be quite sad without ty sending along to me "stuff that only ty would send along to me." as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:46:52 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:12 PM, lep wrote: > > > i see the rock 'n' rall hall of fame pretty much like the academy > awards: the opinions expressed mean pretty much zero to me, but that > sure as frak doesn't seem to prevent them from appalling me once a > year. > Yeah, that's probably right on the money. In both cases I try not to let 'em bother me because, you know, what's the point in getting all worked up, but... maybe I'm doing some unhealthy quashing of a natural instinct to be irritated by stupidity there. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 22:56:23 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: mac novice queries On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:26 PM, lep wrote: > 2fs says: > > 2) My music library lives on an external hard drive. I also have a > > second external drive that I'll be using to back up that library (and, > > probably, everything else - it looks like taht Time Capsule thing will > > work well for that). Do I need to do anything other than connect the > > music drive, fire up iTunes, and tell it to build its library from the > > contents of that drive (aside from optional things, like whether I > > want it to copy files automatically to the drive or rename files > > automatically)? Specifically, of course, I don't want it erasing the > > months of work I've put into getting those music files onto the drive! > Depends on how the external drive is formatted to begin with. I think Macs will read any PC-formatted drive, although some of them show up as read-only. Meanwhile, Mac-formatted drives won't usually show up on PCs, but your Mac won't force you to use Mac formatting. It'll probably all be pretty clear to you. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:19:26 -0800 (PST) From: "C. Huff" Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail Interesting that Jeff and Rex brings up the sports analogy re: RnR Hall. Short anecdote: Don Zimmer in his autobiography sits down with Joe Torre and discusses the merits of Ryne Sandberg vs Dale Murphy for the Baseball Hall. On every stat compared, Dale Murphy beats Sandberg hands down. Yet Sandberg was a 1st ballot HoFer and Murphy has yet to make it. Zim: "It was then I knew the Hall of Fame was bullshit, a popularity contest having nothing to do with how well you played the game." Ditto on the comments about Aerosmith and AC/DC. Dave Marsh wrote a great piece in one of his books years ago talking about how Aerosmith, a 3rd rate Stones imitation band that "even though people listened to them, NOBODY took SERIOUSLY", has become through the years thought of as "one of the 'great' bands". I like TitA too (lol anagram priceless) - I saw them live for free 4 years ago and they kicked the Stones's sorry junkie butt (FU Keith!). But there were fireworks and it was all a little too scripted and Disney, just like Kiss, who, no matter how much you might "like" them, are not a "serious" band. Does anybody listen to AC/DC and say "I want to write a song just like 'Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap'"? I mean I suppose somewhere these people exist...but I never see them listed in people's influences... Iggy's not in the Hall. Lou Reed either. But Aerosmith and AC/DC are. Bullshit. Read Ed Hamell's blog of 1/29 about Iggy and tell me whether you think Iggy should be in the hall: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=18396271 Seger! I mirror the sentiment - why not Dr. Hook? Why not Steve Miller (equally as bland as Seger)? The Young Rascals are in the Hall, but not Tom Waits? So then we get to Rush. Great article by Kim Gordon of Sonic Youth in SPIN once - "Confessions of a Rush Fan". Little Anthony and the Imperials are being inducted for one song, but Rush - not so much. What, YYZ's not original enough for you, no matter how much you might dislike it? I must say I enjoyed visiting the HoF when I went there. The movies were cool, and they had a great U2 exhibit with all sorts of early show flyers. Funny to see Jimmy Page's crappy Harmony acoustic guitar on which (so it claims) he "wrote all the riffs for the first 4 Led Zeppelin albums". The clothes were funny too - they are all so short! Springsteen's short, Gram Parsons was a dwarf, Lou, Dylan, Prince, etc. Tiny little rock and roll gods. But seriously. Bob Seger? Ridiculous. Also ridiculous that Pete Rose is not in the baseball HoF as a player, being that he was the greatest player to ever play the game. OK, rant over. Good night, Cleveland! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 00:09:37 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:19 PM, C. Huff wrote: > > Does anybody listen to AC/DC and say "I want to write a song just like > 'Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap'"? Materialists? > > Iggy's not in the Hall. Lou Reed either. But Aerosmith and AC/DC are. > Bullshit. The Velvets did get in, though. What's the spread on Black Crowes? John Cale as a solo artist? > > So then we get to Rush. Great article by Kim Gordon of Sonic Youth in SPIN > once - "Confessions of a Rush Fan". Ha! Sonic Youth live in LA, during the Jim O'Rourke era: someone shouts out "Play some Rush!" Thurston: "Only one of us likes Rush." Dramatic pause. "Raise your hand, O'Rourke!" Awww... that made me miss Gnat. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 00:33:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail Rex wrote: > it's quite possible that "Old Time Rock and Roll" will outlast > all vestiges of Geddy and Iggy.* As Jarvis said, shit floats. Attached with the not frequently enough noted irony that, a few years after having his next to last hit with a Tom Cruise movie song bitching about disco+, he had his last hit with a Eddie Murphy movie song that was disco (and crappy disco at that), namely "Shakedown" from _Beverly Hills Cop II._ +okay, I looked it up, it was initially a hit a few years earlier, but if not for Tom Cruise in his underpants, would it be as famous a song? **** As for Rush's musicianship, I will say this in it's non-defense: isn't part of being a good musician, as the cliche goes, not just knowing what to play but what _NOT_ to play? And as such, since Rush have shown over their career -- Peart especially -- they have no idea what not to play, they are just talented enough to be truly wretched musicians, just like Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey have good enough voices to be truly hideous singers: they all have the requisite skills to be fantastic, but the lot of them have no fucking taste so they ultimately suck syphilitic rhinoceros who just banged Courtney Love taint. "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 01:01:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail C. Huff wrote: > Interesting that Jeff and Rex brings up the sports analogy > re: RnR Hall. Short anecdote: Don Zimmer in his > autobiography sits down with Joe Torre and discusses the > merits of Ryne Sandberg vs Dale Murphy for the Baseball > Hall. On every stat compared, Dale Murphy beats Sandberg > hands down. Yet Sandberg was a 1st ballot HoFer and Murphy > has yet to make it. Zim: "It was then I knew the Hall > of Fame was bullshit, a popularity contest having nothing to > do with how well you played the game." Ryne Sandberg was also a second baseman while Dale Murphy was a center fielder (after being a failed catcher), so it's an apples and oranges companison. CFs usually fade into being LFs (or DHs now) in the latter days of their career, so they can normally pad their numbers: Murphy fell apart fairly quickly, so his career ultimately lacks the depth that the truly great, HoF CFs have. 2B, on the other hand, tend to die fairly quick professional deaths: they burn out from the wear and tear rather than fade away the way CFs do. > Does anybody listen to AC/DC and say "I want to write > a song just like 'Dirty Deeds Done Dirt > Cheap'"? I mean I suppose somewhere these people > exist...but I never see them listed in people's > influences... Lots of people, just none that you (or I) listen to. And barely any that end up having a career. > Iggy's not in the Hall. Lou Reed either. But The Velvet Underground is. > But > Aerosmith and AC/DC are. Bullshit. All four should be. > But seriously. Bob Seger? Ridiculous. Also ridiculous > that Pete Rose is not in the baseball HoF as a player, being > that he was the greatest player to ever play the game. OK, > rant over. Good night, Cleveland! There are easily 30-40 guys who were better than Pete Rose; shit, he wasn't even the best player on his best teams (say hello to Mike Schmidt, Steve Carlton, Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench, and Tom Seaver). Which is not to say he isn't a Hall of Fame calliber player (though given his transgressions better on baseball as manager and most likely as a player too -- yeah, he denies it, but if it's one thing we've also learned the last 20+ years about him is that he's a bigger fucking liar than Dick Cheney -- he shouldn't be inducted until he dies). But if the Reds aren't desperate enough for the box office push, he never catches Ty Cobb (that's six!) in career hits, because he had no business being in the majors as a player after he left Philly; he was shit his last 5 years. "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 01:13:42 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail Jeff Dwarf wrote: > As for Rush's musicianship, I will say this in it's > non-defense: isn't part of being a good musician, as the > cliche goes, not just knowing what to play but what _NOT_ to > play? And as such, since Rush have shown over their career > -- Peart especially -- they have no idea what not to play, > they are just talented enough to be truly wretched > musicians, just like Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey have > good enough voices to be truly hideous singers: they all > have the requisite skills to be fantastic, but the lot of > them have no fucking taste so they ultimately suck > syphilitic rhinoceros who just banged Courtney Love taint. Incidentally, I don't actually feel that strongly about it -- I'm sure there are examples of Rush displaying some knowledge of what not to play, unlike Whitney or Mariah. I was more trying to present what the argument against them being good musicians is and got a little carried away trying to be funny at the end. And get in a gratuitous shot at Courtney Love, which is always appropriate. Not quite as appropriate as getting one in at Mike Love, but close. I would only say that Rush only suck dog balls. But right after the dog has been given a bath. But before the flea dip. And not a terribly large dog; maybe a nice 25 lb terrier. "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 06:43:05 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail On 2/6/09, Rex wrote: > > What's the spread on Black Crowes? John Cale as a solo artist? The Black Crowes were an imitation Aerosmith, who were an imitation Stones, who were (at first) a rocked-up, imitation Chuck Berry. But they did have a few hits. Iffy. Cale? Deserves it - but he's never had a hit. So, about the same as monkeys throwing snowballs from my ass. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:27:50 -0500 From: Great Quail Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Dwarf! Jeff Dwarf writes, > As for Rush's musicianship, I will say this in it's non-defense: isn't part of > being a good musician, as the cliche goes, not just knowing what to play but > what _NOT_ to play? And as such, since Rush have shown over their career -- > Peart especially -- they have no idea what not to play, they are just talented > enough to be truly wretched musicians, See? This is what I just don't understand. Some people can't simply *dislike* Rush, they seem possessed by this kind of..cellular revulsion, a hatred so profound that it can only be expressed through statements of complete musical authority, as if the speaker is the ONLY PERSON ON EARTH qualified to make judgments about what is or is not "music." The only other group I have ever heard spoken of in such a way is the Grateful Dead. In fact, such virulence can best be understood through the analogy of certain forms of homophobia, of that particular over-passionate type usually expressed by people who later find themselves thrust from the closet in unusually spectacular and messy ways. In other words, Mr. Dwarf, how many Rush shows have you snuck away to, telling the wife and kids you were seeing The Silver Jews? > just like Whitney Houston or Mariah > Carey have good enough voices to be truly hideous singers: they all have the > requisite skills to be fantastic, but the lot of them have no fucking taste so > they ultimately suck syphilitic rhinoceros who just banged Courtney Love > taint. See? I rest my case. C. Huff writes, > Iggy's not in the Hall. Lou Reed either. But Aerosmith and AC/DC are. > Bullshit. I agree with the first part of that statement -- Iggy and Lou are clear omissions. But there's no reason to kick out Aerosmith and AC/DC. I kind of hate Aerosmith, but they still deserve to be inducted into something called - -- say it together, now -- THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. And I have a big soft spot for AC/DC, great party band, who doesn't love an AC/DC song every once in a while? Everyone here can name a dozen of them, I bet. Of course they should get into the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. Also -- until 2008, AC/DC has never been on the cover of Rolling Stone. > Seger! I mirror the sentiment - why not Dr. Hook? Why not Steve Miller > (equally as bland as Seger)? The Young Rascals are in the Hall, but not Tom > Waits? Steve Miller Band is much better than Seger, in my opinion. But neither are what I would call "great." And Tom Waits -- man, is that even rock and roll? I guess. If so, he should be in, of course. But Dr. Hook? Do they induct muppets? > Little Anthony and the Imperials are > being inducted for one song, but Rush - not so much. What, YYZ's not original > enough for you, no matter how much you might dislike it? Thank you! Preach on, brother! > But seriously. Bob Seger? Ridiculous. Also ridiculous that Pete Rose is > not in the baseball HoF as a player, being that he was the greatest player to > ever play the game. OK, rant over. And like I alluded to earlier, Hank Williams is *still* exiled from the Grand Ol' Opry! - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:50:53 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Dwarf! Thanks, thanks! for saying "on the cover of Rolling Stone" in the paragraph immediately before that in which you address the question of Dr. Hook and the medicine show. That made my morning. (Muppets? Why? Just because of the Shel Silverstein connection? Otherwise I'm not getting it.) If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:08:12 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Dwarf! On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Great Quail wrote: > Jeff Dwarf writes, > >> As for Rush's musicianship, I will say this in it's non-defense: isn't part of >> being a good musician, as the cliche goes, not just knowing what to play but >> what _NOT_ to play? And as such, since Rush have shown over their career -- >> Peart especially -- they have no idea what not to play, they are just talented >> enough to be truly wretched musicians, > > See? This is what I just don't understand. Some people can't simply > *dislike* Rush, they seem possessed by this kind of..cellular revulsion, a > hatred so profound that it can only be expressed through statements of > complete musical authority, as if the speaker is the ONLY PERSON ON EARTH > qualified to make judgments about what is or is not "music." The only other > group I have ever heard spoken of in such a way is the Grateful Dead. > > In fact, such virulence can best be understood through the analogy of > certain forms of homophobia, of that particular over-passionate type usually > expressed by people who later find themselves thrust from the closet in > unusually spectacular and messy ways. In other words, Mr. Dwarf, how many > Rush shows have you snuck away to, telling the wife and kids you were seeing > The Silver Jews? Hmm...maybe that cover of _Hemispheres_ is more relevant than I would have thought... I don't enjoy Rush all that much, honestly - but as I said, I think they meet any reasonable criteria. As for the "knowing when not to play": if that's true of Neal Peart (not sure I'd agree...even though that's his rep), isn't it equally true (in very different ways) of Keith Moon? And yet, who ever says that the Who shouldn't be in the HOF because Moon didn't know when to stop playing? (Note that in their own ways, both Townshend and Entwistle could be pretty busy players too...check out the bass to "The Real Me" frinstnace...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:26:41 -0500 From: Great Quail Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Dwarf! > Thanks, thanks! for saying "on the cover of Rolling Stone" in the > paragraph immediately before that in which you address the question of > Dr. Hook and the medicine show. That made my morning. I love that song! > (Muppets? Why? > Just because of the Shel Silverstein connection? Otherwise I'm not > getting it.) Oh -- just -- Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem were based party on Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show... - --Quail PS: Goodnight Oslo just arrived! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:36:16 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Dwarf! Whoops -- I guess I should have given the Quail a few more minutes to reply before I started putting words in his mouth. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:34:46 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: A Few Words on Rush by Brother Quail, listen up, Mr. Dwarf! On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Thanks, thanks! for saying "on the cover of Rolling Stone" in the > paragraph immediately before that in which you address the question of > Dr. Hook and the medicine show. That made my morning. (Muppets? Why? > Just because of the Shel Silverstein connection? Otherwise I'm not > getting it.) I think he was comparing Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show to Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem. Though Wikipedia claims Dr. Teeth was actually based on Dr. John: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_teeth Personally, I'd like to see a muppet based on Dr. Gaius Baltar. Also, while not *as* big a Rush fan as the Quail is, I too think it's absolutely ridiculous that they're not in the R&RHOF, and that sheer irrational bias is the only possible explanation for their exclusion. I think we Fegs should band together and seize control of the HOF! Now *that* would be rock and roll. - --Chris np: The Sword, _Gods of the Earth_ ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:56:51 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: mac novice queries On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:10 PM, 2fs wrote: > In preparation for the impending arrival of my new MacBook (yea!), I > do have a few questions... > > 1) currently, my WinXP laptop connects to the internet via a wireless > router connected to a cable modem. I also stream music wirelessly via > AirPort to my home stereo. My guess is that when I set up the Mac, it > will detect the wireless network and prompt me for the password I've > set up for the network...but I want to make sure it connects to the > internet via the wireless router while leaving AirPort as a > "secondary" system connected to the stereo. Do I need to do anything > brainy to have it do that? Any reason why you have the wireless router AND an AirPort? Either way, your Mac will show you the available wireless networks and allow you to choose which you'd like to use for networking. The music streaming ("AirTunes") is a separate protocol and should just show up as an iTunes streaming destination. > > > 2) My music library lives on an external hard drive. I also have a > second external drive that I'll be using to back up that library (and, > probably, everything else - it looks like taht Time Capsule thing will > work well for that). Do I need to do anything other than connect the > music drive, fire up iTunes, and tell it to build its library from the > contents of that drive (aside from optional things, like whether I > want it to copy files automatically to the drive or rename files > automatically)? Specifically, of course, I don't want it erasing the > months of work I've put into getting those music files onto the drive! Your Mac will see the external drive, but depending on how it's formatted you may not be able to write to it. I would back up everything to your secondary drive, then reformat the primary drive to the Mac standard HFS+. Then copy everything back to the primary drive and point your iTunes at it. > > The drive does have some (PC-based) crap on it - the standard stuff > that comes with a Maxtor drive to manage files, back them up, > etc....which I don't really use (I'm content that the drive just be a > repository for music files). Just wipe it. - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #33 *******************************