From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #26 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 30 2009 Volume 17 : Number 026 Today's Subjects: ----------------- People Flocked like Cattle [Jeremy Osner ] reap [Dr John Halewood ] A Man's Gotta Know His Limitations [Jeremy Osner ] RH UK tour in February [Charlotte ] Blues structure [Jeremy Osner ] Re: komputerwelt [Rex ] Re: komputerwelt [Tom Clark ] Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Re: komputerwelt [Christopher Gross ] Re: REAP [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Re: komputerwelt [Stewart Russell ] Belated reap, was Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer [James Digna] Re: Belated reap, was Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer [kevin st] Bob Dylan to Sing With Will.I.Am for Pepsi? [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Bob Dylan to Sing With Will.I.Am for Pepsi? [2fs ] Re: REAP [Jeremy Osner ] Weird Email Computer Glitch - JOSE ? JOSI ? . . . was Re: REAP [HwyCDRr] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:29:44 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: People Flocked like Cattle An alternate history of grunge: http://www.orbis-quintus.net/?p=3696 J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:37:46 -0000 From: Dr John Halewood Subject: reap John Martyn. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7858458.stm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:04:45 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: A Man's Gotta Know His Limitations Anybody heard about this? http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/clint-eastwoods-magnum-force-to-get-musical-makeover_100148660.html J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:21:54 +0000 From: Charlotte Subject: RH UK tour in February I've been wondering about the wording of the tour information over at the Auditorium (and on the tickets) - for the UK tour the band is just described as 'full band', and on the tickets it's 'Robyn Hitchcock and his Friends', whereas for Seattle and Australia the band are definitely 'the Venus 3'. I was presuming the UK gigs were with the Venus 3 as well - anyfeg know any different? Charlotte ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:41:35 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Blues structure Here's a topic some of you feg maniax might have some insight into: http://readin.com/blog/?id=1693 J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:52:16 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: komputerwelt On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:03 PM, 2fs wrote: > > A couple of questions - I have to do some research, but some apps that > I'm very familiar w/using may not be available for Mac: are there > reliable, simple-to-use Windows emulators anyone would recommend - or, > if anyone wants more detail, I could list some of the apps and see if > anyone has suggestions. (I'm particularly interested in music editing > and recording apps and image-editing apps that don't cost five arms > and six legs (i.e. Photoshop).) Those things, also, are probably the > most resource-intensive things I'm likely to do (not much for gaming, > etc.). > I live without any MS apps, and rifle content back and forth between my Mac and PC's (work, wife's, etc.) without *any* problems, thanks mostly to freeware. That includes music editing and recording stuff. I'm less familiar with Photoshop equivalents but have no doubt they're out there. In short, worry not. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:22:26 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: komputerwelt On Jan 28, 2009, at 9:03 PM, 2fs wrote: > The time has come: my laptop is dying, and I will be switching over to > Mac. (Somewhere, Tom Clark is cheering.) > > A couple of questions - I have to do some research, but some apps that > I'm very familiar w/using may not be available for Mac: are there > reliable, simple-to-use Windows emulators anyone would recommend - or, > if anyone wants more detail, I could list some of the apps and see if > anyone has suggestions. (I'm particularly interested in music editing > and recording apps and image-editing apps that don't cost five arms > and six legs (i.e. Photoshop).) Those things, also, are probably the > most resource-intensive things I'm likely to do (not much for gaming, > etc.). > > Ideas/suggestions/etc.? Offlist if you think others would be bored... Let me know your setup and I'll get you hooked up. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:36:27 +0000 (UTC) From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer - ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin studyvin" To: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:08:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer >Pardon my senior moment - in going back to refresh my memory it would appear >I confused some info from this: >http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid%3A76343 >with some other self-service pontification by Lou. B In fact Sterling did not >return to New York until after the leukemia was found. B I stand by the >fantasy of Cale, Sterling & Mo carrying on without Reed, though. Given my druthers,B myB VU fantasy would haveB Cale on board for the thirdB album and no Doug Yule, as the eponymous album from 1969 has some great songs that would have been even better with a piano or viola and John's vocals instead of Doug's. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:44:05 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: komputerwelt For Photoshop-like activities, knowledgeable Fegs have recommended GIMP. (I have downloaded it but haven't actually tried it myself yet.) http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP It's free in both senses, and you can either run it under X11 (an X windows environment for the Mac) or use a program like Seashore to run it directly in OS X. - --Chris ps: Has anyone in the past decade or so re-calculated the frequency of letters in English writing? I'm wondering if the spread of unix, Mac OS X and related software has caused the letter "x" to move up on the charts. ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:02:58 +0000 (UTC) From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: REAP Looks like t he pressure will be on Ed King or Artemus Pyle to rejoin if they want to keep the name going. The only time IB caught them live was in the Spring of 1975 shortly after King left and before Steve Gaines joined up. They were the opening act of an all day concert held on the Eastern Michigan University football field headlined by Santana. Ace with Paul Carrack on vocals played after Skynyrd. Michael B. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin studyvin" To: "2fs" Cc: HwyCDRrev@aol.com, fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 2:56:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: REAP And like the South, they will all rise again... On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM, 2fs wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:25 PM, B wrote: > > > https://www.relix.com/Features/Daily_News/Lynyrd_Skynyrd_keyboardist_Billy_Pow > > ell_Found_Dead__200901283672.html > > Wait - there were still living members of Lynyrd Skynyrd left to die? > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:02:24 -0500 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: komputerwelt 2009/1/29 Christopher Gross : > > ... or use a program like Seashore to run it directly > in OS X. Seashore looks dead - there have been no updates for nearly two years. It also was a major fork from Gimp, its UI was totally different (and not exactly easier to use) and had most of the useful stuff cut out. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:10:32 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Belated reap, was Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer > > Also: one of my sisters named her first child "Reid Morrison"; I >> commented that she needed to name the second one "Cale Tucker" or >> perhaps "Tucker Cale" (or misspell one of those names...). Alas: >> neither she nor her husband thought that was a good idea (although she >> actually liked the sound of "Cale Tucker" as names). > > > >Which reminds me of a series of great mystery novels Donald Westlake wrote >back in the 70s under the pseudonym "Tucker Coe." They concerned a cop >whose negligence got his partner killed, and various strategies he developed >to deal with the guilt he felt over it - building a brick wall in his back >yard and then tearing it down again, digging a pit in his basement - while >solving a series of sordid murders. Ultimately he came to terms with the >whole guilt thing and the series came to an end. Very nice little books if >you like Donald Westlake, which I always have. sadly, another recent reap (Dec 31) who I don't remeber being reported here. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:42:11 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Belated reap, was Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:10 PM, James Dignan wrote: > > Also: one of my sisters named her first child "Reid Morrison"; I >> >>> commented that she needed to name the second one "Cale Tucker" or >>> perhaps "Tucker Cale" (or misspell one of those names...). Alas: >>> neither she nor her husband thought that was a good idea (although she >>> actually liked the sound of "Cale Tucker" as names). >>> >> >> >> >> Which reminds me of a series of great mystery novels Donald Westlake wrote >> back in the 70s under the pseudonym "Tucker Coe." They concerned a cop >> whose negligence got his partner killed, and various strategies he >> developed >> to deal with the guilt he felt over it - building a brick wall in his back >> yard and then tearing it down again, digging a pit in his basement - while >> solving a series of sordid murders. Ultimately he came to terms with the >> whole guilt thing and the series came to an end. Very nice little books >> if >> you like Donald Westlake, which I always have. >> > > sadly, another recent reap (Dec 31) who I don't remeber being reported > here. > > James > Well, hell and damn. The world's been diminished just a little bit more. On the other hand, he did leave a big honkin' stack of wonderful fiction behind him...I only read one book of his that I thought was a dud, which isn't bad for four-plus decades. And again I say, anyone who's never read Dancing Aztecs has a hole in their life that only one thing can fill; of course it's been out of print for decades, but not that hard to find on teh web. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:47:13 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Bob Dylan to Sing With Will.I.Am for Pepsi? http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/148793-bob-dylan-to-sing-with-willi am-for-pepsi Bob Dylan to Sing With Will.I.Am for Pepsi? A man's gotta pay for all that mustache wax somehow He may have one of the strongest artistic legacies in pop-music history, but Bob Dylan is no stranger to appearing in commercials or cosigning dubious dreadlocked rappers. Still, this is pretty gross: Come Sunday night, we may be confronted with the image of Bob Dylan singing about Pepsi alongside Will.I.Am in a Super Bowl commercial. He has to be fucking with us, right? Right? Billboard reports that Pepsi has bought two to three minutes of commercial time during this Sunday's Super Bowl, and one of the ads they're considering showing will feature Dylan and Will.I.Am singing a song written specifically for Pepsi. Really. As in: Together. And Pepsi may also sell the song on iTunes, just in case you needed a digital reminder that you really did just see Bob Dylan singing about Pepsi on TV. Pepsi hates your parents. According to Billboard, another ad that might show up during the Super Bowl is a Gatorade commercial featuring Lil Wayne talking about the letter G, which actually doesn't seem that out of character at all for Wayne. But if Pepsi had both Dylan and Wayne at their disposal, why didn't they just put the two of them in an ad together? That wouldn't have necessarily made too much sense either, but it would've at least chipped away a bit at the aura of all-consuming lameness surrounding this whole enterprise. Video: Bob Dylan: When the Deal Goes Down [from the Modern Times LP] Posted by Tom Breihan on Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:00am my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:36:01 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Bob Dylan to Sing With Will.I.Am for Pepsi? On 1/29/09, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/148793-bob-dylan-to-sing-with-willi > am-for-pepsi > > Bob Dylan to Sing With Will.I.Am for Pepsi? > A man's gotta pay for all that mustache wax somehow As the Minutemen didn't quite sing: Bob... Dylan... Wrote... Pepsi songs... Hey: just goes to prove - Bob Dylan, like Neil Young, Does Whatever The Fuck He Wants. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:45:29 +0000 From: "craigie*" Subject: Re: REAP > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM, 2fs wrote: > > And like the South, they will all rise again... hmmm... a *zombie* Lynyrd Skynyrd... let's think about that for a minute... c* - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:59:36 -0500 From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Re: REAP On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 3:45 AM, craigie* wrote: > hmmm... a *zombie* Lynyrd Skynyrd... > > let's think about that for a minute... Hey speaking of zombies, have you guys heard about the attacks in Austin? http://www.woostercollective.com/2009/01/hacking_the_grid_in_austin_zombies_ahead.html If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:15:05 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Weird Email Computer Glitch - JOSE ? JOSI ? . . . was Re: REAP sometimes it says If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago sometimes it says if we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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