From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #25 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 29 2009 Volume 17 : Number 025 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer [kevin studyvin ] Re: REAP [2fs ] Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer [kevin studyvin ] Re: REAP [2fs ] the doctor thing again [James Dignan ] komputerwelt [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:24:40 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer thanks! reminds me of my favourite fegpost of all (from ): Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:49:23 -0600 (CST) From: Marshall Joseph Armintor Subject: Captain Sterling In the last digest, Mike Godwin wrote about the Velvets: Sterling Morrison had an interesting time of it after VU ended; he came down to Austin, got a degree in Medieval lit (at least an M.A.) at the University of Texas, was a prof there for a while and gigged in some local bands; after doing that for a few years, he migrated over here to Houston in the '80s and became a tugboat captain, I swear to God. My pal Chuck's erstwhile boyfriend Dean knew him and hung out with him from time to time; Sterling even fixed Dean's broken toilet once. Dean said Sterling was a beautiful, humble guy who was genuinely surprised that people knew who he was or even remembered him from VU...his cancer was indeed rather sudden; I heard about it only a few months before he died... marshall ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:09:52 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 1/27/09, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > MAGPIE reprints a Sterling Morrison interview from 29 years ago, about > > hatred for folk music and new wave: > > http://www.arthurmag.com/magpie/?p=3960 > > Thanks. > > You know, I don't think I'd ever read an interview with Sterling > Morrison before. If I'd had a son, I probably would have named him Sterling. And then not told him why until a little bit later, when "Black Angel's Death Song" might be comprehensible to some level of his mind. - -Rex - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:18:21 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > thanks! reminds me of my favourite fegpost of all (from > ): > > Sterling Morrison had an interesting time of it after VU ended; he came > down to Austin, got a degree in Medieval lit (at least an M.A.) at the > University of Texas, was a prof there for a while and gigged in some local > bands; after doing that for a few years, he migrated over here to Houston > in the '80s and became a tugboat captain, I swear to God. My pal Chuck's > erstwhile boyfriend Dean knew him and hung out with him from time to time; > Sterling even fixed Dean's broken toilet once. > Seeing the Sterling tugboat captain thing right next to the name "Dean" make me think Wareham right away-- I've never really known or asked before, but I've always assumed that Galaxie 500's song "Tugboat Captain" is about/inspired by Sterling, who would go on to guest on a Luna record. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:40:09 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: reap He seems to still be active; maybe a well-worded email (and a discreet honorarium) would inspire him to come up with something... On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:22 PM, kevin studyvin > wrote: > > Text is here, along with about a minute of audio: > > Right; I meant I would like to hear Professor Corey giving the speech > in Stockholm accepting Pynchon's putative prize. > > J > > If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the > essential words. -- Josi Saramago > http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:02:39 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer > Sterling Morrison had an interesting time of it after VU ended; he came > down to Austin, got a degree in Medieval lit (at least an M.A.) at the > University of Texas, was a prof there for a while and gigged in some local > bands; after doing that for a few years, he migrated over here to Houston > in the '80s and became a tugboat captain, I swear to God. My pal Chuck's > erstwhile boyfriend Dean knew him and hung out with him from time to time; > Sterling even fixed Dean's broken toilet once. > > Dean said Sterling was a beautiful, humble guy who was genuinely surprised > that people knew who he was or even remembered him from VU...his cancer was > indeed rather sudden; I heard about it only a few months before he died... I recollect some Lou interview where he was coming on all noble and wistful about his pal Sterling; he blamed the cancer on his driving a tugboat on the unspeakably polluted Hudson. So presumably he migrated back home at some point and continued his new career there. I occasionally speculate on how different the world might have been had the rest of the Velvets called Lou's bluff in '68 and simply carried on without him. All they would have needed to do was find another guitar player, and maybe a bass...oh well. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:25:24 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP https://www.relix.com/Features/Daily_News/Lynyrd_Skynyrd_keyboardist_Billy_Pow ell_Found_Dead__200901283672.html my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:08:54 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer Pardon my senior moment - in going back to refresh my memory it would appear I confused some info from this: http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/story?oid=oid%3A76343 with some other self-service pontification by Lou. In fact Sterling did not return to New York until after the leukemia was found. I stand by the fantasy of Cale, Sterling & Mo carrying on without Reed, though. On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:02 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: > Sterling Morrison had an interesting time of it after VU ended; he came >> down to Austin, got a degree in Medieval lit (at least an M.A.) at the >> University of Texas, was a prof there for a while and gigged in some local >> bands; after doing that for a few years, he migrated over here to Houston >> in the '80s and became a tugboat captain, I swear to God. My pal Chuck's >> erstwhile boyfriend Dean knew him and hung out with him from time to time; >> Sterling even fixed Dean's broken toilet once. >> >> Dean said Sterling was a beautiful, humble guy who was genuinely surprised >> that people knew who he was or even remembered him from VU...his cancer >> was >> indeed rather sudden; I heard about it only a few months before he died... > > > > I recollect some Lou interview where he was coming on all noble and wistful > about his pal Sterling; he blamed the cancer on his driving a tugboat on the > unspeakably polluted Hudson. So presumably he migrated back home at some > point and continued his new career there. > > I occasionally speculate on how different the world might have been had the > rest of the Velvets called Lou's bluff in '68 and simply carried on without > him. All they would have needed to do was find another guitar player, and > maybe a bass...oh well. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:13:20 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:02 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: >> Sterling Morrison had an interesting time of it after VU ended; he came >> down to Austin, got a degree in Medieval lit (at least an M.A.) at the >> University of Texas, was a prof there for a while and gigged in some local >> bands; after doing that for a few years, he migrated over here to Houston >> in the '80s and became a tugboat captain, I swear to God. My pal Chuck's >> erstwhile boyfriend Dean knew him and hung out with him from time to time; >> Sterling even fixed Dean's broken toilet once. > > I recollect some Lou interview where he was coming on all noble and wistful > about his pal Sterling; he blamed the cancer on his driving a tugboat on the > unspeakably polluted Hudson. So presumably he migrated back home at some > point and continued his new career there. Either that or, as has often been the case, Lou was full of shit ;-) > I occasionally speculate on how different the world might have been had the > rest of the Velvets called Lou's bluff in '68 and simply carried on without > him. All they would have needed to do was find another guitar player, and > maybe a bass...oh well. You know what we need? Some sort of symbol, or series of typographic characters, that can connote, in the absence of tone of voice unavailable to print as a medium, the presence of irony or humor in a passage. Because without such a set of symbols, it's hard to tell whether you're unaware of the execrable "Velvet Underground" album the Yule brothers released post-Cale and post-Lou... (What really would have been interesting is if Morrison and Tucker had persuaded Cale to rejoin them instead...) Also: one of my sisters named her first child "Reid Morrison"; I commented that she needed to name the second one "Cale Tucker" or perhaps "Tucker Cale" (or misspell one of those names...). Alas: neither she nor her husband thought that was a good idea (although she actually liked the sound of "Cale Tucker" as names). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:13:59 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: REAP On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:25 PM, wrote: > https://www.relix.com/Features/Daily_News/Lynyrd_Skynyrd_keyboardist_Billy_Pow > ell_Found_Dead__200901283672.html Wait - there were still living members of Lynyrd Skynyrd left to die? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:55:44 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: Sterling Morrison talking to his beer > > I occasionally speculate on how different the world might have been had > the > > rest of the Velvets called Lou's bluff in '68 and simply carried on > without > > him. All they would have needed to do was find another guitar player, > and > > maybe a bass...oh well. > > You know what we need? Some sort of symbol, or series of typographic > characters, that can connote, in the absence of tone of voice > unavailable to print as a medium, the presence of irony or humor in a > passage. > > Because without such a set of symbols, it's hard to tell whether > you're unaware of the execrable "Velvet Underground" album the Yule > brothers released post-Cale and post-Lou... Squeeze? Never heard it, never interested. Essentially a Sesnick-inspired Doug Yule solo album with the usual gang of British session guys, wasn't it? > > > (What really would have been interesting is if Morrison and Tucker had > persuaded Cale to rejoin them instead...) Naw, that's what I was speculating about - Cale & Sterling & Mo carrying on without Lou. Or any of the various Yules. Vintage Violence with lots of guitars, is what I like to imagine. That could have been fun, and Gawd knows the three of them got along fine without Miss Reed's endless drama. > > > Also: one of my sisters named her first child "Reid Morrison"; I > commented that she needed to name the second one "Cale Tucker" or > perhaps "Tucker Cale" (or misspell one of those names...). Alas: > neither she nor her husband thought that was a good idea (although she > actually liked the sound of "Cale Tucker" as names). Which reminds me of a series of great mystery novels Donald Westlake wrote back in the 70s under the pseudonym "Tucker Coe." They concerned a cop whose negligence got his partner killed, and various strategies he developed to deal with the guilt he felt over it - building a brick wall in his back yard and then tearing it down again, digging a pit in his basement - while solving a series of sordid murders. Ultimately he came to terms with the whole guilt thing and the series came to an end. Very nice little books if you like Donald Westlake, which I always have. np Gone: The Criminal Mind (a Greg Ginn-led power trio playing surf music powered by some awful chemical cocktail) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:56:42 -0800 From: kevin studyvin Subject: Re: REAP And like the South, they will all rise again... On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM, 2fs wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:25 PM, wrote: > > > https://www.relix.com/Features/Daily_News/Lynyrd_Skynyrd_keyboardist_Billy_Pow > > ell_Found_Dead__200901283672.html > > Wait - there were still living members of Lynyrd Skynyrd left to die? > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:10:39 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: REAP > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:13 AM, 2fs wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:25 PM, wrote: >> > >> > https://www.relix.com/Features/Daily_News/Lynyrd_Skynyrd_keyboardist_Billy_Pow >> > ell_Found_Dead__200901283672.html >> >> Wait - there were still living members of Lynyrd Skynyrd left to die? On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > And like the South, they will all rise again... This fall, on NBC: ZOMBIE ROCKERS - Hold your lighters high, rock fans - - Lynyrd Skynyrd is back, but this time, there's a difference: they're zombies! That's right - back to sweet home Alabama from beyond the grave! Don't even bother asking, "ooh-ooh, what's that smell?" because it's probably the band! Give 'em three steps, three steps - and they're like a bird you cannot change! So hold on loosely, because - oh wait, that's .38 Special... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:35:09 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: the doctor thing again >Ferris asked whether the majority of the professors at Hamilton, who did >not insist on the honoric, indeed had doctorates. I would say at least >85%-90% did. As for TAs, we didn't have any. All courses were taught by >the professors because there were no graduate students. This is still >true of many small liberal arts colleges. The only time I had a "class" >with an upperclassman was for German discussion group, which was held once >a week and led by a senior. This thread completely bamboozled me until I remembered that the US system works backwards to other countries. Here (as in the UK and elsewhere), a professor's near the top of the tree: Demonstrator (usually sciences only)->Postgrad tutor->Teaching fellow->Assistant lecturer->Lecturer->Senior lecturer-> Associate professor->Professor->Dean. And it's rare to get as far as teaching fellow if you don't have a doctorate. > To me, doctors are folks who advance human understanding by extending our > intellectual reach. People who practice medicine are "physicians". They > just took on the name "doctor" to give themselves the cred they felt they > deserved. As Sebastian will no doubt confirm, in Germany anyone who has a doctorate is addressed as Doctor all the time, irrespective of what their doctorate is in. James (who got as far as postgrad tutor) - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:03:01 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: komputerwelt The time has come: my laptop is dying, and I will be switching over to Mac. (Somewhere, Tom Clark is cheering.) A couple of questions - I have to do some research, but some apps that I'm very familiar w/using may not be available for Mac: are there reliable, simple-to-use Windows emulators anyone would recommend - or, if anyone wants more detail, I could list some of the apps and see if anyone has suggestions. (I'm particularly interested in music editing and recording apps and image-editing apps that don't cost five arms and six legs (i.e. Photoshop).) Those things, also, are probably the most resource-intensive things I'm likely to do (not much for gaming, etc.). Ideas/suggestions/etc.? Offlist if you think others would be bored... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #25 *******************************