From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #10 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 13 2009 Volume 17 : Number 010 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Re: Rockin' like it's 1993 ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Re: Rockin' like it's 1993 ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Painfully Honest Year-End List ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! ["kevin studyvin" <] Dmitry ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: Dmitry [Tom Clark ] Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! [michaeljbachman@co] Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Painfully Honest Year-End List [Rex ] Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! [Rex ] New Arlie Carstens Interview ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: Dmitry [2fs ] Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! ["Laura Golias" ] Re: Dmitry [2fs ] Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! [lep Subject: Re: Re: Rockin' like it's 1993 > Glad to see the Screaming Trees get a nod there. I always thought they were > the best thing out of Seattle (aside from the Young Fresh Fellows) since > Hendrix. Too bad the kids around the Fags/Sleeping Movement psych/freak axis never broke out. Played some amazing shows though, & they were fun to hang out with. Sky Cries Mary was the biggest thing to come out of that scene, and they were a pale imitation of the Fags in their prime... np Dennis Wilson / Pacific Ocean Blue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:34:20 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Re: Rockin' like it's 1993 >> the best thing out of Seattle (aside from the Young Fresh Fellows) since >> Hendrix. Thanks for inspiring me to look up Jimi's Wiki page -- I somehow got the idea as a lad, that Hendrix was British; and had been puzzled about the shout-out in "Viva Sea-Tac". J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:46:30 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Painfully Honest Year-End List > 10. Hideous guitars. This one's a little hard to explain, but for the past > few years every time I've gone to a music store, the vast majority of the > instruments in stock have been astonishingly lame looking, and I've been > perplexed about who wants these things and why. This year I finally, > slowly > unravelled the riddle: such instruments are played by bands too popular for > me to have ever heard of, or at least seen any images of (see Trend #2). I > extrapolate from that that these instruments also don't sound too hot... at > least in terms of making any noises I'd want to hear, although I don't > imagine that a clean tone without any digital processing ever makes it from > the pickups to a record or arena sound system, so there's that. All-time fave guitars: Whatever that thing was that Dylan was playing in the Hard Rain TV show back in '76 (and does anybody know where a citizen might find a copy of that?); Todd Rundgren's painted-up Gibson; the Iron Cross number Ian Hunter used to sport in Mott the Hoople; and that ancient, beat-to-shit, held-together-with-string instrument Willie Nelson will probably be buried with. (Also, I was at a party in Palos Verdes back in the 20th century where some nitwit covers band was playing, and their guitarist had a Tele with a Monopoly board glued to the face that I thought was pretty slick at the time.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:04:29 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Painfully Honest Year-End List - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 11. Januar 2009 13:27:21 -0800 regarding Painfully Honest Year-End List: > Top 10 Fall Albums (Studio Only): > 1. Bend Sinister > 2. Hex Enduction Hour > 3. The Real New Fall LP Formerly Country on the Click > 4. The Wonderful and Frightening World of the Fall > 5. The Unutterable > 6. This Nation's Saving Grace > 7. The Frenz Experiment > 8. Dragnet > 9. Perverted by Language > 10. Shift-Work OK, so I've got 6 Fall albums, 4 of which make your top 10. Not bad. But the best of the batch is number 5, which means there are 4 better albums I don't know! And I haven't even really listened to "The Unutterable" yet. I guess I got my work cut out for me. I'm glad you enjoyed Wire so much, because I will see them in two weeks' time. They are playing about the smallest club there is in Cologne. I guess that shouldn't surprise me as much as it did, because hardly anyone I know has heard of them. Did they play 70s stuff at all at the show you saw? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:06:44 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! whoa! i was just wondering if you still were around and about this neck of the woods, hal. remember miller's "lattice of coincidence", from *Repo Man*? i think that son of a bitch was really on to something with that theory. completely agree -- although i am going to give the album another chance. alas, i feel similarly about your #7 choice (as well as the bon iver record, to mention another that's received a lot of hype). well, not so much that i "hate" them, as that i "just really do not like anything about them". miles, your numbers 8, 12, 13, and 14 choices look interesting; but they're not available torrentside. any chance you could torrent or usenet 'em? the bloc party fucking ROCKS! it's going to finish very high up on my list. that's a relative term this year, '08 having been so fucking amazingly strong. but even given that caveat, i think it's rather possible that bloc party'll be in my top five. we'll see. by the way, we were sitting around on christmas night, shooting the shit and listening to perry como's christmas album, when my dad tossed out the question: who is the best male vocalist (he'd then and there decided his was perry como, hence the topic of conversation). i tossed out rod stewart, and was roundly ridiculed by *everybody* else in the room. i responded with indignation and return-ridicule. but i suppose it's worth asking all y'alls: even if he'd not be your selection, is that he was mine really deserving of unanimous ridicule? i'm still kind of incredulous. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:40:10 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > question: who is the best male vocalist? Um... (raises hand) Robyn Hitchcock? I don't think much of Rod Stewart (or Perry Como) but I don't suppose I'd be one to ridicule you -- I hardly *know* you! Lessee, there are plenty other male vocalists I think highly of, besides RH. None are coming to mind at the moment while my music is far away at home. Probably if I were to set down and seriously try and pick out the best one it would end up being a black man, possibly Marvin Gaye or Otis Redding. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:49:23 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > by the way, we were sitting around on christmas night, shooting the shit > and listening to perry como's christmas album, when my dad tossed out the > question: who is the best male vocalist (he'd then and there decided his > was perry como, hence the topic of conversation). i tossed out rod > stewart, and was roundly ridiculed by *everybody* else in the room. i > responded with indignation and return-ridicule. > > but i suppose it's worth asking all y'alls: even if he'd not be your > selection, is that he was mine really deserving of unanimous ridicule? i'm > still kind of incredulous. I wouldn't put him that high - and the problem is, the last 25 years at least have been one of the greatest self-shittings in musical history (see also: Stevie Wonder) which has trashed his reputation. But at his peak? Certainly a damned fine rock singer, yes. (I have to qualify my "bests" by style - like, the best mainstream hard-rock singer is Roger Daltrey from the late sixties into the mid-late-seventies, say.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:53:51 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: re: Re: Rockin' like it's 1993 >But, on the not so lucky side, no Meat Puppets. Glad to see the Screaming >Trees get a nod there. I always thought they were the best thing out of >Seattle (aside from the Young Fresh Fellows) since Hendrix. Marc Heh - good to know there are other Screaming Trees fans on the list. Grunge with mellotrons - a surprisingly good combination. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:21:11 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! Stewart is great up through roughly Smiler. Then he moved to California and tossed whatever critical judgment he'd ever had overboard somewhere en route. Pretty much worthless since (though he did do a great version of Danny Whitten's "I Don't Want To Talk About It.") My fave's still Cale. Bowie when he could still hit the high notes. RH is up there. Jim Morrison. Richard Butler too. And Sugarcane Harris. Gene Clark. Can't leave Elvis out (the one from Memphis). Whoever the lead guy was with the Four Tops. Van Morrison. And Marty Balin. Richard Thompson for that world-weary growl. Throw in Mose Allison and I'd call that a pantheon, or at least a baker's dozen... On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > question: who is the best male vocalist? > > Um... (raises hand) Robyn Hitchcock? > I don't think much of Rod Stewart (or Perry Como) but I don't suppose > I'd be one to ridicule you -- I hardly *know* you! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:22:20 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Dmitry . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:33:35 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Dmitry On Jan 12, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > . And here I thought you were drop some Dimitri from Paris beats on us. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:55:01 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! - -------------- Original message -------------- From: "kevin studyvin" > Stewart is great up through roughly Smiler. Then he moved to California and > tossed whatever critical judgment he'd ever had overboard somewhere en > route. Pretty much worthless since (though he did do a great version of > Danny Whitten's "I Don't Want To Talk About It.") > > My fave's still Cale. Bowie when he could still hit the high notes. RH is > up there. Jim Morrison. Richard Butler too. And Sugarcane Harris. Gene > Clark. Can't leave Elvis out (the one from Memphis). Whoever the lead guy > was with the Four Tops. Van Morrison. And Marty Balin. Richard Thompson > for that world-weary growl. Throw in Mose Allison and I'd call that a > pantheon, or at least a baker's dozen... > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > > question: who is the best male vocalist? > > > > Um... (raises hand) Robyn Hitchcock? > > I don't think much of Rod Stewart (or Perry Como) but I don't suppose > > I'd be one to ridicule you -- I hardly *know* you! Gram Parsons, Robyn Hitchcock, John Cale, Grant McLennan, Nick Cave, Muddy Waters, Johnny Hartman, Colin Blunstone, Smokey Robinson, Greg Allman, Robert Johnson, John Lennon and Otis Redding. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:13:34 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, wrote: > Gram Parsons, Robyn Hitchcock, John Cale, Grant McLennan, Nick Cave, Muddy Waters, Johnny Hartman, Colin Blunstone, Smokey Robinson, Greg Allman, Robert Johnson, John Lennon and Otis Redding. > Michael B. What, no love for Bob Seger? J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:31:28 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Dmitry Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > . A good read, there. "...The trouble is, we here in the US have traditionally liked fascists. We had liked Mussolini well enough, until he allied with Hitler, whom we only eventually grew to dislike once he started hindering transatlantic trade." Back in the 20s and 30s there were quite a few Americans singing the praise of both Bennito and Adolf. They were called the Progressives. Let's not forget who the Progressives morphed into, shall we? "The genetic and environmental variation is such that it is not even conceivable to breed people for high intellectual abilities..." Yet that's exactly what eugenics movement sought to do. Do some tertiary reading on Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger. "Many countries, upon achieving a certain level of collective intelligence, or upon finding themselves blessed with a sufficiently intelligent benevolent dictator, followed a similar line of reasoning, and organized a system of public education that meted out educational opportunities based on the ability to learn, not the ability to pay." 'Benevolent dictator.' Great term. Frightening, but a great term. I haven't any problem with educating based on the ability to learn versus the ability to pay. By that measure affirmative action has no place in the granting of seats in places of learning and entrance exams and standards should be color (and sex) blind. Bravo. /golfclap "Other traditional socialist victories include securing the right to housing, child care, health care, and retirement." I cringe at the use of the word 'right' when it comes to Federal involvement. Rights are (as always) defined by the Constitution and it says bupkas about housing, child care, health care, or retirement. The author goes on to deride the state of public housing and inner-city schools and I fairly agree with him (or her) on the points raised. I counter, though, that it's not the government's place -- at least not on a Federal level -- to be involved whatsoever. "To add insult to injury, there is a limitless supply of pundits and experts, who can always get free air time to claim that even these feeble attempts at an equitable society are fiscally unsustainable and therefore must be curtailed." Because. It. Isn't. Sustainable. I'll concede that there may be some argument to be made that had birth rates remained as high as they had immediately after World War II (and our economy continued to grow) such programs might be tenable, but the current trends prove otherwise. "Poor embargoed Cuba can afford to provide such luxuries..." Then why do so many Cubans live here? "You might think that all of this talk of social rights causes erosion of respect for money and property, followed by other kinds of moral decay." Let's not forget oppressive taxation. The single best way to jump-start our economy? It's certainly not through big government programs. The fed collect roughly $100 billion in income taxes every month plus $60 billion in Social Security and Medicare (or about $800 billion over five months). Why not cease all collections for a five month period and let the consumer make their own independent decisions as to how to best spend that money? Either way there's going to be another $800 billion in the deficit, but the big difference being with actual consumers spending on actual products and services with actual businesses benefiting and prospering. Allowing the government to spend the money only grows the size of government and further promotes the cause of a state-controlled economy. Remember, kids: Government doesn't create wealth, it merely redistributes it. "To further elucidate this fine point, let us consider two different environments: the cruise ship and the life boat. Aboard the cruise ship we find Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, George Soros and Warren Buffet, along with their assorted henchmen, fellow-travelers and capitalist stool pigeons." Please come back when you have something other than wealth envy. "... The cruise ship hits an iceberg and starts to go down, and the four capitalist luminaries take to the lifeboat, along with the passengers and the crew." And you're better off putting the four of them in the lifeboat along with whoever else might fit. Think of them like a collective Professor on Gilligan's Island. Without their knowledge and abilities the rest of the survivors wouldn't get a coconut radio. "The captain of the sunken cruise ship then asserts his authority, and, with everyone's vocal consent, confiscates all money and all provisions, and institutes biscuit and water rations." Sounds like a fantastic life! Equally distributed poverty as opposed to unequally distributed wealth. Nothankyou. "They draw lots, and Ellison gets the short straw." Eat the rich. "By a strange and suspicious coincidence, Soros is eaten next." Natch! "But then, after a month adrift, the castaways are finally rescued by a passing freighter." And they get home there's no jobs for them because they've killed the captains of industry. Horray. Happy ending! I'm only 1/2 way through the post and already this is too long. I could continue to ... Crap! I think I've just been trolled! - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:27:46 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Painfully Honest Year-End List On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn < Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: > . > > I'm glad you enjoyed Wire so much, because I will see them in two weeks' > time. They are playing about the smallest club there is in Cologne. I guess > that shouldn't surprise me as much as it did, because hardly anyone I know > has heard of them. Did they play 70s stuff at all at the show you saw? Yep. They represented almost all their incarnations (depending on how you divvy them up). My only small disappointment was that they seemed to do basically the same slice of '80's material they did when I saw them back in the... erm... late '90's? But it has evolved. Good times! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:31:38 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, wrote: > > Gram Parsons, Robyn Hitchcock, John Cale, Grant McLennan, Nick Cave, > Muddy Waters, Johnny Hartman, Colin Blunstone, Smokey Robinson, Greg Allman, > Robert Johnson, John Lennon and Otis Redding. > > Michael B. > > What, no love for Bob Seger? Nice! This thread should officially end with that definitive query. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:47:16 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! - -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Jeremy Osner" > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM, wrote: > > Gram Parsons, Robyn Hitchcock, John Cale, Grant McLennan, Nick Cave, Muddy > Waters, Johnny Hartman, Colin Blunstone, Smokey Robinson, Greg Allman, Robert > Johnson, John Lennon and Otis Redding. > > Michael B. > > What, no love for Bob Seger? Meat and taters rock 'n roller who I liked for a year or two in the mid 70's, but not since. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:56:00 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Dmitry > In case anyone didn't read Ferris's whole post, here's the very best part: > >> >> "... The cruise ship hits an iceberg and starts to go down, and the four > capitalist luminaries (Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, George Soros and Warren > Buffet) take to the lifeboat, along with the passengers and the crew." > And you're better off putting the four of them in the lifeboat along with > whoever else might fit. Think of them like a collective Professor on > Gilligan's Island. Without their knowledge and abilities the rest of the > survivors wouldn't get a coconut radio. > I just need to let that stand on its own, and bask in the purity of its sheer, inhuman wrongness without further comment. 'Cause damn. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:31:45 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: New Arlie Carstens Interview . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:21:18 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Dmitry On 1/12/09, FSThomas wrote: > Back in the 20s and 30s there were quite a few Americans singing the praise > of both Bennito and Adolf. It's pretty easy to play the game of "They used to support X!" with both political parties... I mean, conservatives were against interracial marriage, civil rights, blah-blah-blah. I'm fresh out of rat's asses on what folks believed in the past: let's look at what they believe now. > "Other traditional socialist victories include securing the right to > housing, child care, health care, and retirement." > > I cringe at the use of the word 'right' when it comes to Federal > involvement. Rights are (as always) defined by the Constitution and it says > bupkas about housing, child care, health care, or retirement. Rights, according to the Constitution, are "inalienable" and not granted by that Constitution but inherent. And the Constitution does not claim to have enumerated all of them: it does not say "these, and no others." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:25:52 -0500 From: "Laura Golias" Subject: Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! Top 3 for me: (not in order) Robyn Hitchcock Johnny Cash Elvis And then: (still not in order) Roy Orbison Freddy Mercury John Lennon Otis Redding Muddy Waters Wilson Pickett Leadbelly Sinatra My opinion, of course, don't bash me please, I cry easily. ; ) I'm sure there are more I've forgotten. Laura Golias ldgolias1@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:26:44 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Dmitry Rex wrote: >> In case anyone didn't read Ferris's whole post, here's the very best part: >> >>> "... The cruise ship hits an iceberg and starts to go down, and the four >> capitalist luminaries (Bill Gates, Larry Ellison, George Soros and Warren >> Buffet) take to the lifeboat, along with the passengers and the crew." > > >> And you're better off putting the four of them in the lifeboat along with >> whoever else might fit. Think of them like a collective Professor on >> Gilligan's Island. Without their knowledge and abilities the rest of the >> survivors wouldn't get a coconut radio. >> > > I just need to let that stand on its own, and bask in the purity of its > sheer, inhuman wrongness without further comment. 'Cause damn. If in a situation where you have a dozen people and a ten-person lifeboat and one of the would-be occupants is a pregnant woman, does she draw straws like everyone else, or does she get a pass? I'd say pass, personally, but if so, then why? Because of a pre-existing condition? Because she's pregnant? Because she's going to bring something new into the world? The same could be said for an industrialist. They have the ways and means to create something; not just the drive but the ability to bring something to the table. To sacrifice them for ten random-chance selections who may very well amount to nothing simply doesn't make sense. (It doesn't help that the original author pushed the right buttons by having choices number one and two conveniently be defined by nothing other than wealth.) The entire thing is skewed. Lastly for the record, the origins of the modern-day conservatives actually operated under the moniker of "liberals" in the early decades of the previous century and were not against inter-racial marriage or civil rights. Segregationists (and ardent supporters of the South during the Civil War) were by a vast (vast) majority Progressives and Democrats. Robert KKK Byrd, anyone? Just because history doesn't tell the story you want or is inconvenient doesn't mean y'all should go and try to re-write it. The modern-day DNC was founded on racial divides and today derives some of its power from subtly perpetuating those same issues. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:14:14 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Dmitry On 1/12/09, FSThomas wrote: > If in a situation where you have a dozen people and a ten-person lifeboat > and one of the would-be occupants is a pregnant woman, does she draw straws > like everyone else, or does she get a pass? I'd say pass, personally, but if > so, then why? Because of a pre-existing condition? Because she's pregnant? > Because she's going to bring something new into the world? > > The same could be said for an industrialist. They have the ways and means > to create something; not just the drive but the ability to bring something > to the table. To sacrifice them for ten random-chance selections who may > very well amount to nothing simply doesn't make sense. How big a lifeboat can it be before it's no longer a lifeboat? Because what I'm reading is that whenever things get tough, we should just take knives to the less-worthwhile. As defined by "industrialists" and the like, of course. We'll maybe keep a few of those worthless lowlifes around to clean up our shit, however. Can't expect a fucking INDUSTRIALIST to do that. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:17:20 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: If my name were "Eb", I'd be butt-nekkid already! the only ones that are coming to mind are david bowie and thom yorke. which just confirms my thing for aliens. does morrisey count? xo lauren p.s. rod stewart is damn fine singer but hides it by singing too a few too many awful songs. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:26:10 -0500 (EST) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: random robyn tidbit - newly discovered > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:23:23 -0800 > From: Carrie Galbraith > Subject: Re: random robyn tidbit - newly discovered? > > On Jan 10, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > >> -- hb is rumored to have mumbled on 10. >> Januar 2009 20:38:42 -0500 regarding random robyn tidbit - newly >> discovered?: >> >>> My girlfriend is currently reading a novel entitled "Exquisite >>> Corpse" >>> by Poppy Z. Brite (1996) that she recently picked up at a Half-Price >>> Books store. Knowing I am a RH fan, she couldn't help but share this >>> passage when she read it, on page 191: >>> >>> 'Luke switched over to music mode and played Robyn Hitchcock's love >>> ballad "Queen Elvis" from the acoustic album Eye. Looking at the >>> jewelbox, he recalled the lament for a lost lover in one of the other >>> songs. Even talking is out of reach... It captured the white-hot >>> agony of >>> an affair ended in anger, the silent void left by the absence of the >>> person with whom you'd had the most intensely emotional >>> conversations of >>> your life.' >>> >>> Can't recall anyone ever mentioning this before! >> >> Neither can I. Seems a nice use of a musical reference as well, at >> least as far as the quote is concerned (Linctus House, right?), but >> I'm a bit baffled that "Queen Elvis" is characterised as a "love >> ballad". WTF? >> -- > > This is new to me as well. Nice paragraph! So Poppy is an RH fan. > - - c > (I'd also question the the love ballad call.) > I think that's just Poppy being Poppy. There used to be a long piece (by her/him/whatever) on her gender dysphoria/extreme kink kicking around the web, but it seems to have been disappeared. The gender confusion in Queen Elvis might make it read like a love song to her - more than one with straight-oriented lyrics, anyway. Jeanne ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #10 *******************************