From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #7 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 9 2009 Volume 17 : Number 007 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions [Michael Sw] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions [Michael Sw] Re: Bastard Squid [James Dignan ] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions [Michael Sw] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions [Rex ] Re: REAP ["Jeremy Osner" ] RE: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions [Michael Sw] quick notes (only peripheral Hitchcock content) ["kevin studyvin" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 21:12:24 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions "Miles Goosens" wrote: >On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Rex wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Miles Goosens outdoorminer@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Rex wrote: >>> >>> I wonder if that's yet another instance of the now-insignificant age >>> difference between us coming into play. It was hard to be a 9 or 10 >>> year-old boy in 1975-1978 and *not* hear Kiss. I wasn't a fan then or >>> now, but I know all those songs. >> >> Age and sort of isolation from my actual peer group (no neighbor kids and >> suchlike). I didn't hear pop or rock radio until about 1985 or so-- at >> which point I was so mortified by my sheer lack of knowledge about it that I >> had to pretend to hate it, or something like that. > >This isn't a direct response, but sort of an "oh, what you said made >me think of this" furthering of the conversation. > >To wit: I don't remember hearing much Kiss on the radio. "Beth" was >pretty inescapable in its day, and... well, I can look it up. Here's >Kiss' biggest US hits by Billboard chart peak: > >Beth - #7 (1976) >I Was Made For Lovin' You - #11 (1979) >Rock and Roll All Nite - #12 (1975, the KISS ALIVE! version) >Hard Luck Woman - #15 (1976) >Calling Dr. Love - #16 (1976) > >So... far from being one-hit wonders, but also far from '70s crazy >singles chart ubiquity. Heck, Ace Frehley's "New York Groove" was the >fourth-biggest Kiss-related single (peaking at #13 in 1978). > >I guess I'm just saying you're more likely to hear a Kiss song on >Classic Rawk radio now than you would have been on Top 40 or even AOR >in the '70s. ...I gotta agree...and add that it can also be a matter of location. When Rex wrote "It was hard to be a 9 or 10 year-old boy in 1975-1978 and *not* hear Kiss" it made me think that to be (as I was) a 13- to 16-year-old boy in the Chicago area from 1975-78 and to HEAR MUCH Kiss was kinda hard (if ya had much taste or wasn't already somehow turned on to the band). As a devoted pre-teen / early teen consumer of top 40 radio on WLS and WCFL, I only knew "Beth." And, as of about then (from say, '76 or '77 on) as an FMer, I also got a little exposure to "Calling Dr. Love" and "Rock and Roll All Nite" -- but that was it for that list of top 20s (including the Ace song) for me...it wasn't even until about the last 10 years that I even knew I ever heard "Detroit Rock City." So...they kinda fell between the cracks of our top 40 stations (although I bet it was quite different some 300 miles to the east) and our FM ones (although friggin' Styx got too damned much FM play in Chicago then). I do recall -- as a freshman in '76 -- that we had some seniors dress as Kiss (full make-up, etc.) for some high school dress-up day...but that likely happened among a dedicated minority almost anywhere around that period. Easily, their image was better known than their music in and around Chicago... Michael "Heck, I had the Randy Newman album with the cover shot making fun of Kiss make-up before I'd ever heard more than 3 or 4 Kiss songs..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_01200 9 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 21:19:32 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions "Marc Holden" wrote: >While I'm at it, I've never heard the Fleetwood Mac original of "Black Magic Woman", which Santana made into their signature song (and a co-worker used >to always sing as "I've got a black magic marker..."). ...Our version was (and apologies if it sounds even semi-racist -- but it was absolutely not intended that way...just proper syllable word-play) "I've got a black Magic Johnson..." Michael "The Mac version is good...and so is their original 'Green Manalishi' that Judas Priest got some play with in '78" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:27:37 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Bastard Squid Meanwhile, in local "related to squid" news: I have seen this particular individual shortly after he was recaptured from an earlier escape attempt. I would never have believed it possible, but it was obvious from how he looked at the time that he was furious at having been recaptured, and was clearly sulking after he was returned to his tank. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 21:26:02 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions Lauren wrote: >Jeremy says: >> recorded with my college band Bastard Squad but is alas! lost to the >i misread that as (what else) ``bastard squid.'' ...Me too -- absolutely! >> highly flawed song called "Bastard Squad (Oi! Oi! Oi!)" which was the >this time i did it on purpose. ...Still accidentally squidish for me. I never woulda realized I'd swapped the "a" for an "i" twice without Lauren's post...lol... Michael "Blame Cthulhu (plus, as a full Feg, I've found I don't even have to look up the spelling of 'Cthulhu' anymore)..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_explore_ 012009 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 21:55:28 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > ...I gotta agree...and add that it can also be a matter of location. When > Rex > wrote "It was hard to be a 9 or 10 year-old boy in 1975-1978 and *not* hear > Kiss" Sorry, that was the other West Virginian, not me. I was all "never heard pop radio until 1985". - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:21:47 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Got a Black Magic Woman >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Marc Holden wrote: >> While I'm at it, I've never heard the Fleetwood Mac original of "Black >> Magic Woman" > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Wow: this is a totally new one on me. Thot it was Santana's free and > clear. > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:30:55 -0800 > From: "kevin studyvin" > Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions > Peter Green wrote it; was one of the Mac's earlier singles & can be found on > English Rose from 1969 which also features Green's classic instrumental > "Albatross" (not to be confused with Monty Python's "Albatross.") * Golly, Marc, Jeremy, you need to rush out and buy the new 4-album box set: 'Peter Green: The Anthology' and pop CD2 into the player straightaway (haven't had time to do it yet myself, it only arrived this afternoon). And there are numerous live versions, notably at the 'Boston Tea Party', where he also sings a stunning version of Duster Bennet's 'Jumping at Shadows'. - - Mike Godwin n.p. The maestro playing 'Homework' to a crowd of French hippies: - - Mike Godwin PS On the twin lead guitars front, 'Albatross','Oh Well','World in a Tangle', 'Coming your way' and various other tunes feature Green and Kirwan playing harmony leads. Not to mention 'Wait a Minute' and 'Love Bomb' by Blossom Toes. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:27:51 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Got a Black Magic Woman Bother, 'Homework' by Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac has gone from YouTube. Try these versions of Black Magic Woman instead: - - Mike G ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:50:37 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: REAP William Zantzinger killed poor Hattie Carroll and himself lived a long and prosperous life: http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/zantzinger-who-inspired-bob-dylan-ballad-dies/?hp J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:55:29 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: REAP Some historical docs regarding Zantzinger here: http://www.readin.com/blog/?id=331 J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > William Zantzinger killed poor Hattie Carroll and himself lived a long > and prosperous life: > http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/zantzinger-who-inspired-bob-dylan-ballad-dies/?hp > > J > > If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the > essential words. -- Josi Saramago > http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:30:58 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions Duh (or, perhaps more accurately, "D'Oh!") on me...and I THOUGHT that didn't fit with what I understood yer age to be...oh well...sorry! MLS Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 21:55:28 -0800From: spottedeagleray@gmail.comTo: m_l_sweeney@hotmail.comSubject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versionsCC: fegmaniax@smoe.org On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: ...I gotta agree...and add that it can also be a matter of location. When Rexwrote "It was hard to be a 9 or 10 year-old boy in 1975-1978 and *not* hearKiss" Sorry, that was the other West Virginian, not me. I was all "never heard pop radio until 1985". - -Rex _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:58:21 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: quick notes (only peripheral Hitchcock content) Evidently things have delined to the point that China is rethinking its plan to take over the US by buying up all our debt: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/08/business/worldbusiness/08yuan.html?em Also, last nite we stopped down by the Cedar River where it runs through downtown Renton and it was pretty impressive. The water was up to the bottom of the bridges, which would be roughly 12-14 feet higher than usual. It was chocolate-milk brown and making an enormous amount of noise, and we counted a couple dozen trees or major parts of them floating along. It was a bit lower this morning but still really high. If there wasn't a deep cut down there a lot of Renton would be under water. We did note that there was one stretch of a couple blocks where it wouldn't have had to rise more than another foot or so to be in people's front yards. Hard not to wonder what's ahead, considering this is only the third week of winter. Heavy rotation for today: Eldorado / ELO Ole! Tarantula / Robyn Hitchcock 'n' The Venus 3 Electric Warrior / T. Rex Todd / Todd Rundgren Life's a gas ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjiNROf_U4Y ) KS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 13:17:19 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Goodbye Oslo... ... is really awesome. Better than Ole Tarantula. 2009 is off to a good start. - -- "I don't believe in hypothetical situations. It's like lying to your brain." - Kenneth Ellen Parcell ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #7 ******************************