From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #6 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 8 2009 Volume 17 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["kevin stu] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Miles Goo] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Marc Hold] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Jeremy Os] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions [lep ] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions [Rex ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:59:48 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions > **I know it's more commonly rendered "Knights" instead of "Kids", but my > memory as to what Chris Morris told me at the time is crystal clear. I had > to ask him what "Satan" meant. I believe that's a common misspelling of "Santa." Rockin' the Gnarls Barkley St. Elsewhere. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:46:32 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Rex wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Miles Goosens > wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Rex wrote: >> >> I wonder if that's yet another instance of the now-insignificant age >> difference between us coming into play. It was hard to be a 9 or 10 >> year-old boy in 1975-1978 and *not* hear Kiss. I wasn't a fan then or >> now, but I know all those songs. > > Age and sort of isolation from my actual peer group (no neighbor kids and > suchlike). I didn't hear pop or rock radio until about 1985 or so-- at > which point I was so mortified by my sheer lack of knowledge about it that I > had to pretend to hate it, or something like that. This isn't a direct response, but sort of an "oh, what you said made me think of this" furthering of the conversation. To wit: I don't remember hearing much Kiss on the radio. "Beth" was pretty inescapable in its day, and... well, I can look it up. Here's Kiss' biggest US hits by Billboard chart peak: Beth - #7 (1976) I Was Made For Lovin' You - #11 (1979) Rock and Roll All Nite - #12 (1975, the KISS ALIVE! version) Hard Luck Woman - #15 (1976) Calling Dr. Love - #16 (1976) So... far from being one-hit wonders, but also far from '70s crazy singles chart ubiquity. Heck, Ace Frehley's "New York Groove" was the fourth-biggest Kiss-related single (peaking at #13 in 1978). I guess I'm just saying you're more likely to hear a Kiss song on Classic Rawk radio now than you would have been on Top 40 or even AOR in the '70s. > **I know it's more commonly rendered "Knights" instead of "Kids", but my > memory as to what Chris Morris told me at the time is crystal clear. The rumormongers I remember always said "Kids," but then again, the whole weird fundamentalist obsession with backwards masking and Satanic influence and stuff really metasticized in the early '80s. I suspect "Knights" became more common at that time. >I had > to ask him what "Satan" meant. ??? Really, you weren't familiar with that moniker? And hey, you could have just asked the Louvin Brothers. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:04:27 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions While I'm at it, I've never heard the Fleetwood Mac original of "Black Magic Woman", which Santana made into their signature song (and a co-worker used to always sing as "I've got a black magic marker..."). Later, Marc I wish everybody would have to have an electric thing implanted in our heads that gave us a shock whenever we did something to disobey the president. Then somehow I get myself elected president. Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:13:43 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Marc Holden wrote: > While I'm at it, I've never heard the Fleetwood Mac original of "Black Magic Woman" Wow: this is a totally new one on me. Thot it was Santana's free and clear. (Apropos the discussion of "Kids in Satin" Service (tm), it occurs to me another song I have performed but never heard the original of, is "(6-foot, Hot-look) All-American Man", which I recorded with my college band Bastard Squad but is alas! lost to the ages. (We also did "Both Sides Now" and "Tainted Love" -- I think those are the only thres songs we ever played, beyond an original and highly flawed song called "Bastard Squad (Oi! Oi! Oi!)" which was the initial impetus for the band to be formed.)) J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:28:55 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions Jeremy says: > recorded with my college band Bastard Squad but is alas! lost to the i misread that as (what else) ``bastard squid.'' > highly flawed song called "Bastard Squad (Oi! Oi! Oi!)" which was the this time i did it on purpose. as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:38:03 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:28 PM, lep wrote: > Jeremy says: > >> recorded with my college band Bastard Squad but is alas! lost to the > > i misread that as (what else) ``bastard squid.'' (grin) -- We were a less creative crew than would have been required to come up with such a name. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:46:26 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions Jeremy Osner wrote: > lep wrote: > > Jeremy says: > > > >> recorded with my college band Bastard Squad but is > > > > i misread that as (what else) ``bastard squid.'' > > (grin) -- We were a less creative crew than would have been > required to come up with such a name. And I think I want to steal it. "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:24:20 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 6. Januar 2009 19:37:37 -0800 regarding Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions: > Well, my cousins were into KISS, but in first grade Chris Morris* told > me that their name stood for Kids in Satan's Service**, which kinda scared > me off. How cute! Have you listened to their version of Black Diamond in the meantime? It's kinda weird at the end ... of course I like the Mats' version better by a mile. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:30:55 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Marc Holden wrote: > > While I'm at it, I've never heard the Fleetwood Mac original of "Black > Magic Woman" > > Wow: this is a totally new one on me. Thot it was Santana's free and > clear. Peter Green wrote it; was one of the Mac's earlier singles & can be found on English Rose from 1969 which also features Green's classic instrumental "Albatross" (not to be confused with Monty Python's "Albatross.") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:03:43 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: REAP Matt stated: >Ron Asheton... >*kicks self to death for missing Stooges reunion shows* I only saw two of the reunion shows, which oddly enough wound up being the first show (Coachella, 4/27/03) and the last US show (Virgin Mobile Festival--Baltimore, 8/10/08). Both shows were staggeringly great. I was close enough at the Baltimore show to have Iggy flick sweat on me several times and I walked away with some hearing damage. I wouldn't expect Iggy to try to tour further as the Stooges, so I guess it is the end of an era. This is really a sad one. I hate talking about so many great bands in the past tense. Marc "Shut up! Shut up, you American. You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you talk and say 'let me tell you something' and 'I just wanna say this'. Well, you're dead now, so shut up!"--Mr. Death (the Grim Reaper), Monty Python's Meaning of Life. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:44:07 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Miles Goosens wrote: > > >I had > > to ask him what "Satan" meant. > > ??? Really, you weren't familiar with that moniker? Well, I actually thought he said "Kids and Saints In Service", which doubly confused me because it didn't match the acronym! But for some reason, I'm pretty sure I only knew The Devil as The Devil. Maybe this is one of those memories that only *seems* really vivid, but is really garbled from years of misuse. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 23:41:03 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions or PiL's "Albatross" . . my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 1/7/2009 3:43:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kstudyvin@gmail.com writes: Peter Green wrote it; was one of the Mac's earlier singles & can be found on English Rose from 1969 which also features Green's classic instrumental "Albatross" (not to be confused with Monty Python's "Albatross.") **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:53:36 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: REAP > This is really a sad one. I hate talking about so many great bands in the > past tense. Marc As opposed to, say, Clapton? ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #6 ******************************