From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #5 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, January 7 2009 Volume 17 : Number 005 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Ladies and Gentlemen... [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["David Sto] REAP [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] RE: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Bachman, ] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Miles Goo] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Miles Goo] REAP [matt sewell ] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions [2fs ] BMG (Music Club) soon to be RIP? ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Goodnight Oslo Pre-Order From Yep Roc ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Goodnight Oslo Pre-Order From Yep Roc [2fs ] Re: Ladies and Gentlemen... [FSThomas ] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions [Rex ] bizarre triple posting [djini@voicenet.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:53:31 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen... On Jan 5, 2009, at 5:02 PM, FSThomas wrote: > Bachman, Michael wrote: >> Good riddance to Norm Coleman. > > At the cost of sending Franken up for a term? Seems hardly a fair > trade. > > I find it hard to believe the fine people of Minnesota couldn't > have found anyone less irritating to run. Where was Garrison > Keillor, for Christ's sake? - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:07:58 -0500 From: "David Stovall" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > OK, so how about cover versions you have played without having heard > the original? I can think of two songs like this which are among my > favorites to play with my friend Janis, who knows the originals -- I > only know the songs by way of her. They are the Stones' "Shine a > Light" and Gram Parson's "Wheels". I used to play (drums/aux perc) with a sorta Grateful Dead-centered rock cover band on occasion, and probably most of the Dead stuff we played, I'd never or very rarely ever heard before. I had a few Dead LPs at the time (mid 90's), but had never really studied them. Can't think of many titles, though one that 'd never heard before at all was certainly "Me and My Uncle." Still probably only ever heard a small handful of live Dead versions to this day, when I went on a bit of a kick and bought a stack of the Dick's Picks live sets 5-10 years ago. I do love me a good "Dark Star" and a few other tunes here and there("Mexicali Blues"?, "Box of Rain"), but have pretty much recovered from the rest. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:24:14 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP http://www.nme.com/news/the-stooges/41900 my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:32:06 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of David Stovall Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:08 AM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: >> OK, so how about cover versions you have played without having heard >> the original? I can think of two songs like this which are among my >> favorites to play with my friend Janis, who knows the originals -- I >> only know the songs by way of her. They are the Stones' "Shine a >> Light" and Gram Parson's "Wheels". >I used to play (drums/aux perc) with a sorta Grateful Dead-centered rock cover band on occasion, and probably >most of the Dead stuff we played, I'd never or very rarely ever heard before. I had a few Dead LPs at the >time (mid 90's), but had never really studied them. Can't think of many titles, though one that 'd never heard > before at all was certainly "Me and My Uncle." Still probably only ever heard a small handful of live Dead >versions to this day, when I went on a bit of a kick and bought a stack of the Dick's Picks live sets 5-10 years > ago. I do love me a good "Dark Star" and a few other tunes here and there("Mexicali Blues"?, "Box of Rain"), > but have pretty much recovered from the rest. Hah! The Flying Burrito Brothers had a song about the government and avoiding the draft called "My Uncle" on their first ablum Gilded Palace Of Sin. "Box of Rain" is my favorite Dead song among the couple of dozen that I know, as I only own three Dead albums, Workingman's Dead, American Beauty and In The Dark. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:36:18 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions Rex: > I think I mentioned Bob Welch's "Ebony Eyes" as something my bassist started > playing at some point before I had ever heard it. But I did look up the > original pretty quickly-- actually, I think he found the video-- which is > priceless-- for us on YouTube during a break in rehearsal. I think that song and its fellow Big Hit Singles from the same album, "Hot Love, Cold World" and "Sentimental Lady," are darn fine songs. I'm sure with more thought and digging I could come up with some contributions here, but the only one that readily came to mind is Yo La Tengo doing "Borstal Breakout." I've never owned anything by Sham 69. Or, strangely, the Damned. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:45:53 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Rex wrote: > So I was just unloading the dishwasher, and for whatever reason, "Black > Diamond" started running through my head. > And I thought, huh, that there is a cover version that I've listened to > probably hundreds of times over the past twenty years without *ever* having > heard the original version. That's awfully unusual for me... I wonder if that's yet another instance of the now-insignificant age difference between us coming into play. It was hard to be a 9 or 10 year-old boy in 1975-1978 and *not* hear Kiss. I wasn't a fan then or now, but I know all those songs. I remember David Bell bringing KISS ALIVE! to school one day (4th grade?) when we were allowed to bring in our own vinyl and play things from them at lunchtime. Maybe the vinyl was worn or maybe the speaker on the record player was crap (it was one of those single built-in speaker models you saw at schools a lot), but it was very difficult to make out the words. I thought the chorus of "Rock Bottom" was saying "hot bottle!", like Paul Stanley had the rheumatiz and was looking forward to a night at home with the remote and some over-the-counter pain relievers. Ah, youth. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:45:05 +0000 From: matt sewell Subject: REAP Ron Asheton... *kicks self to death for missing Stooges reunion shows* Cheers Matt _________________________________________________________________ Are you a PC? Upload your PC story and show the world http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:50:37 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On 1/6/09, Miles Goosens wrote: > Rex: > > > I think I mentioned Bob Welch's "Ebony Eyes" as something my bassist started > > playing at some point before I had ever heard it. > > I think that song and its fellow Big Hit Singles from the same album, > "Hot Love, Cold World" and "Sentimental Lady," are darn fine songs. I can't call "Hot Love, Cold World" to mind...but isn't at least one of the other two actually originally a Fleetwood Mac song (granted, written by Welch and performed by that band during Welch's tenure there)? I think it predates Welch's version - so the Mac track would be the original, I guess. (Anyway, both "Ebony Eyes" and particularly "Sentimental Lady" are nice tunes - I am in the Milesian Concordat on that.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:05:32 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: REAP August 23rd? I'm behind the times. Coroner Confirms Dr. Dre's Son Died of Heroin Overdose Los Angeles Country coroners have confirmed that the death of Dr. Dre's son, Andre Young Jr., was the result of an accidental heroin and morphine overdose. "Andre Young Jr.'s death has been ruled as an accident due to morphine and heroin intoxication," media officer Ed Winter told one publication. The 20-year-old was found in the bedroom of their Woodland Hills, CA, home by his mother, Jenita Porter, on the morning of August 23. Porter told police that her son had come home at around 5:30 a.m., after having spent the night out with friends, but that she heard him snoring in his bedroom upon his return. Later in the morning, Porter discovered that Young was unconscious, so she called paramedics, who attempted to revive him, to no avail. He was pronounced dead at the scene. Dr. Dre has yet to release an official statement since the news of his son's cause of death was revealed. http://www.theboombox.com/2009/01/05/coroner-confirms-dr-dres-son-died-of-heroin-overdose/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:19:46 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: BMG (Music Club) soon to be RIP? I still have a BMG Music Club membership (I think it's a legacy Columbia House one), and when went to the login page this morning, I got this trifecta of news: (1) They aren't accepting new members. (2) They invited nonmembers to join this thingamajob instead: http://www.yourmusic.com/enroll/enroll_200608_incentive.html (3) They are ditching their Music Points program (ye olde "points for every purchase/redeem for free stuff" repeat buyer incentive). No more points after January 31st, have to redeem by April 30th or you lose 'em. Not that any of this is surprising given the changes in the music biz along with the New and Not Improved Great Depression, but thought I'd pass it on. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:19:18 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions > I used to play (drums/aux perc) with a sorta Grateful Dead-centered > rock cover band on occasion, and probably most of the Dead stuff we > played, I'd never or very rarely ever heard before. I had a few Dead > LPs at the time (mid 90's), but had never really studied them. Can't > think of many titles, though one that 'd never heard before at all was > certainly "Me and My Uncle." > Which was itself a cover of sorts - tune John Phillips claimed he didn't even remember writing & didn't record until many years later, after finally emerging from his chemical haze... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:25:37 -0500 From: woj sven-woj Subject: Goodnight Oslo Pre-Order From Yep Roc - ----- Forwarded message from Yep Roc Records ----- Pre-order Goodnight Oslo and get a 3-song bonus disc On February 17th Robyn Hitchcock & the Venus 3 - comprised of R.E.M's Peter Buck on guitar, Scott McCaughey (The Minus 5, Young Fresh Fellows, R.E.M.) on bass and drummer Bill Rieflin (Ministry, R.E.M.) - will storm back onto the pop music landscape with Goodnight Oslo, the follow-up to their critically lauded 2006 album Ole! Tarantula. The first fans to pre-order Goodnight Oslo at the Yep Roc Web Shop will receive a limited-edition three-song bonus disc. The CD includes "Up To Our Nex," featured in the film Rachel Getting Married, "I Just Wanna Be Loved," a new song featuring Grant Lee Phillips, and "Nothing Makes Me Cry," a b-side from Ole! Tarantula. Ole! Tarantula marked the beginning of a stark renaissance in the career of one of Britain's most enduring songwriters and performers, reinvigorating his unique artistic voice and illuminating his influence on another generation of psychedelic folk disciples. Continuing Ole's trend, Goodnight Oslo explodes the Hitchcock myth with an album of pure pop mastery complete with horns, jangling guitar hooks and signature Hitchcock-ian word paintings that prove the Englishman's creative engine is more fiery than ever. Goodnight Oslo harkens back to Hitchcock masterpieces Underwater MoonlightGlobe of Frogs, with early opinions calling it one the best albums of his already storied career. The album features guest vocals from Colin Meloy (The Decemberists) and Sean Nelson (The Long Winters, Harvey Danger). One man horn section Terry Edwards contributes signature stabs and sweeps, adding color what Robyn refers to as, "The best record of my adult life," and his unique vision of pop music in a perfect world. Much about finding a return route out of the rabbit hole, Goodnight Oslo is bright and shining, further delineating this era from the frequently dark nature of his earlier work. Says Robyn, "These songs are largely about breaking out of a negative cycle, and believing that change can happen. It's not a recovery album or a therapy album per se; it's just a sign to the exit." Oslo comes on the heels of two meticulously curated retrospective boxed sets. I Wanna Go Backwards and Luminous Groove combine to reissue six albums (plus four discs of rarities) worth of Hitchcock's 1980's Egyptians and solo output. Yep Roc Records - 449-A Trollingwood Rd. - Haw River - NC - 27258 This email was sent using MyNewsletterBuilder.com. - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:39:37 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo Pre-Order From Yep Roc That crazy deluge of Feg preorders appears to have crashed their server! later, Miles On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:25 PM, woj sven-woj wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Yep Roc Records ----- > > Pre-order Goodnight Oslo and get a 3-song bonus disc - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:29:47 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen... FSThomas wrote: >Steve Schiavo wrote:>> ...Senator Al Franken!>>>> >>I just threw up in my mouth a little. ...Keep throwin' up, if you must -- but, for many of us, the first clear-mouth-time in 8 goddamn years is about to commence. (Get ready for Senator Kennedy II, too...we won and won big -- and I ain't compromising or apologizing at all anymore...) Michael "Capital 'L' Liberal when it was a faux-dirty word..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Its the same Hotmail.. If by same you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_12 2008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:43:41 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Goodnight Oslo Pre-Order From Yep Roc On 1/6/09, woj sven-woj wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from Yep Roc Records ----- > One man horn section Terry Edwards > contributes signature stabs and sweeps So wait - is he a brutal knife-killer, or a janitor? Or maybe both. I'd hate to be working at a bank when he shows up to endorse a check: "sign here Mr. Edwards" - STAB! - and then he steals the broom from the custodian and starts sweeping madly. Oh well - the British are known to be eccentric. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:48:27 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Ladies and Gentlemen... Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...Keep throwin' up, if you must -- but, for many of us, the first > clear-mouth-time in 8 goddamn years is about to commence. (Get ready for > Senator Kennedy II, too...we won and won big -- and I ain't compromising or > apologizing at all anymore...) I'm looking forward to the inauguration and a bit of change myself. But Senator Kennedy II ... is that really needed? Honestly? New York has a history of being a carpetbagger's dream (read: Clinton), but Caroline would be doing the same thing Bobby did in '64. I'd tell her to get a real job, but that wouldn't be funny. It's the Governor who appoints Clinton's replacement, correct? Isn't it in everyone's best interest to find someone with any experience? And I'm not saying any member of the old boys club, hand-picked and ready for footstool duty, I mean someone with maybe some business acumen. Or junior-level (state?) legislative experience. What's Caroline done? Fund raising? Co-authored a book? I would be honestly surprised if Teddy had, either. Not that it matters, anyway. Whoever they stick in that post is going to have to fight in 2010 and by just looking at her and listening to her I don't think she's got what it takes to actually get (re-) elected. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:37:37 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Miles Goosens wrote: > On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Rex wrote: > > I wonder if that's yet another instance of the now-insignificant age > difference between us coming into play. It was hard to be a 9 or 10 > year-old boy in 1975-1978 and *not* hear Kiss. I wasn't a fan then or > now, but I know all those songs. > Age and sort of isolation from my actual peer group (no neighbor kids and suchlike). I didn't hear pop or rock radio until about 1985 or so-- at which point I was so mortified by my sheer lack of knowledge about it that I had to pretend to hate it, or something like that. > > > I remember David Bell bringing KISS ALIVE! to school one day (4th > grade?) when we were allowed to bring in our own vinyl and play things > from them at lunchtime. > Ah. Well, my cousins were into KISS, but in first grade Chris Morris* told me that their name stood for Kids in Satan's Service**, which kinda scared me off. Other awesome rumors about Gene Simmons having a cow's tongue transplanted and Peter Criss being beheaded in a car accident were to follow. - -Rex *nb. not a Circle Jerk **I know it's more commonly rendered "Knights" instead of "Kids", but my memory as to what Chris Morris told me at the time is crystal clear. I had to ask him what "Satan" meant. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:44:49 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Slice of consciousness You local pigworkers might enjoy this conversation: http://www.greatwhatsit.com/archives/3852 -- doesn't really go anywhere or mean anything but it's a fun read. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:29:37 -0500 (EST) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: bizarre triple posting Wow, I have no idea why that happened. Really makes me look like a nag though, huh. Sorry! > > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:14:21 -0500 (EST) > From: djini@voicenet.com > Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V17 #3 > > Tom Clark wrote: > >> On Jan 3, 2009, at 10:39 AM, djini@voicenet.com wrote: >> >>> Happy 2009 everybody! Though in fegworld, it's still 2006! >> >> Why is that? >> > > http://fegmania.org/archive.html > > Jeanne > ad nauseam.... ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #5 ******************************