From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V17 #3 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, January 5 2009 Volume 17 : Number 003 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Stewart C] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions [Sebastian ] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Jeremy Os] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Stewart C] reading festival 1989-90 [great white shark ] I can see strange prehistoric fishes from my house (NR) [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Jeremy Os] Re: Flying through the annopause... ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Terrence ] Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["kevin stu] RE: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions ["Bachman, ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:04:34 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions Rex wrote: > > Anyone else have one of these kicking around in their closet? The Wailing Jennies' "Old Man" vs Neil's original. Syd Griffin's paisley jangle-and-oboe (hey, he was married to Kate St John) version of "Six Days On The Road" AND Chris Coole's fretless gourd banjo version* - but I only heard the Dave Dudley one today. I've never heard Flatt & Scruggs's "Hot Corn, Cold Corn", but the Holy Modal Rounders' version is a staple. Stewart *: strangely, it works - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 04:06:45 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 3. Januar 2009 18:32:41 -0800 regarding Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions: > So I was just unloading the dishwasher, and for whatever reason, "Black > Diamond" started running through my head. > And I thought, huh, that there is a cover version that I've listened to > probably hundreds of times over the past twenty years without *ever* > having heard the original version. That's awfully unusual for me... > can't think of another instance. Plenty of instances where I've heard a > cover version way more frequently than the original (by choice or > otherwise), but the hundreds: zero ration is pretty severe. > > Anyone else have one of these kicking around in their closet? Maybe the > same one? Only after I sent you the MP3 did I realise that I had misread your question :-) I usually go out of my way to find the originals of every cover version that I love. That's how I ended up with that Kiss track. One that eluded me for a long time was the Aerosmith version of Toys In the Attic, but I've got that now. OK, I just thought of a few originals I've never heard: Superman (cover by R.E.M., original by The Clique) Yellow Sarong (cover by Yo La Tengo, original by The Scene Is Now) What Can I Say (cover by YLT, original by NRBQ) Griselda (cover by YLT, original by Peter Stampfel(?)) Tried So Hard (cover by YLT, original by the Flying Burrito Brothers) There are bound to be more, but those come to mind. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:17:18 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions I've only heard the original "Prodigal Son" (by Rev. Robert Wilkins I think?) like once or twice, and only because I was researching origin of the Stones version -- i.e. I was going out of my way to listen to the original version of a tune I love. Hey speaking of such things: Does anybody around here happen to have an MP3 copy of Lightnin Hopkins' "Blues in the Bottle"? I only have it on LP -- love that song and was thinking the other day about how distinctly different the blues version of it is to the jugband version. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:21:50 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > Griselda (cover by YLT, original by Peter Stampfel(?)) performed by Unholy Modal Rounders, written by Antonia. Demented genius. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:04:41 +1030 From: great white shark Subject: reading festival 1989-90 Oy Fegs, I am currently covering reading festival 1989-90 for my website and wondered if any of you buggers attended , its the year it turned indie after years of mostly metal bands , so it would be more likely to attract fegs , check it out here for whats up so far. featured new order, pixies, billy bragg etc http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/reading-89.html der commander ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:21:13 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: I can see strange prehistoric fishes from my house (NR) - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:39:00 -0500 (EST) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: Flying through the annopause... James wrote: > > Just the album. It may or may not have been one of those "I am at the > radio station, the CD is there, and I have my laptop complete with > disk-burner" purchases, if you get my drift. Ah yes. We can resist anything except temptation. Speaking of succumbing, I got my SO an ipod, partially, I must admit, because I really wanted to get one out of that absurd vending machine Apple has installed in the local mall (it was just as satisfyingly futuristic as anticipated). He's never had one - and this is a person who owns thousands and thousands of CDs, not to mention a wall full of vinyl and tapes and god help me but I think there's a stack of 8-tracks somewhere in the living room, plus he is constantly downloading shows (dimeadozen is his homepage). It's been so fun to watch the uploading binge. I'm wondering how long it'll take him to fill the 120 gigs. Happy 2009 everybody! Though in fegworld, it's still 2006! Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:48:48 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Rex is rumored to have mumbled: > > > So I was just unloading the dishwasher, and for whatever reason, > > "Black Diamond" started running through my head. And I thought, > > huh, that there is a cover version that I've listened to probably > > hundreds of times over the past twenty years without *ever* > > having heard the original version. [snip] > > Anyone else have one of these kicking around in their closet? > > Maybe the same one? > > OK, I just thought of a few originals I've never heard: > > Superman (cover by R.E.M., original by The Clique) Definitely those two. Others that quickly come to mind (or semi-quickly as I scan my rekurd like things and then google for info in a couple places): Brinsley Schwarz's "What's so Funny 'Bout Peace Love & Understanding," though I have heard Nick Lowe solo versions, so maybe that one doesn't quite count A few Clash songs: "Police on My Back," "Armagiddeon Time," "Police and Thieves," though I did hear the original Vince Taylor "Brand New Cadillac" a couple years ago, though I don't remember where. Andy Williams "Can't Get used to Losing You" (as opposed to The (English) Beat's) Ween "Baby Bitch" (Jon Auer) The Four Preps "Tainted Love (Soft Cell) Peter Ivers "(In Heaven) Lady in the Radiator Song" (Pixies) Davey Graham "Anji" (Simon and Garfunkel, Bert Jansch) Ron Davies "It Ain't Easy" (David Bowie) Ed's Redeeming Qualities "Drivin' on 9" (The Breeders) Aerosmith "Lord of the Thighs" (The Breeders) Twinkle "Golden Lights" (The Smiths) Buck Owens "Act Naturally" (The Beatles) Barrett Strong "Money (That's What I Want)" (The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Flying Lizards) The Top Notes "Twist & Shout" (The Isley Brothers, The Beatles) "That's When Your Heartaches Begin," "Mystery Train": listened to The Soft Boys lots, never heard Elvis's. For that matter, I've never heard the original "We Like Bananas," but since that's an old Tin Pan Alley song, I don't think that counts. Nor any of the songs off that Cole Porter tribute for 1990 I still listen to pieces of (Kirsty & The Pogues doing "Miss Otis Regrets/Just One of those Things," Deborah Harry and Iggy "Well Did You Evah!," U2 "Night & Day," etc) "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:30:08 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: I've never heard the original "We Like Bananas," This cannot stand! Go listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7289Lqwp35k The Hoosier Hotshots are the greatest. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:33:49 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > This cannot stand! Go listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7289Lqwp35k > > The Hoosier Hotshots are the greatest. btw, the subtext of this song is kind of interesting. (IIUC and IIHHC - -- I could easily be parrotting an urban legend here.) The story I've heard is that bananas were not really a known foodstuff in the US in the early 20th C., when United Fruit was setting up its plantations in Latin America and the West Indies, and this song was part of the PR campaign directed towards getting Americans to eat them. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:07:37 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions >So I was just unloading the dishwasher, and for whatever reason, "Black >Diamond" started running through my head. >And I thought, huh, that there is a cover version that I've listened to >probably hundreds of times over the past twenty years without *ever* having >heard the original version. That's awfully unusual for me... can't think of >another instance. Plenty of instances where I've heard a cover version way >more frequently than the original (by choice or otherwise), but the >hundreds: zero ration is pretty severe. > >Anyone else have one of these kicking around in their closet? Maybe the >same one? probably plenty of 'em. Never yet heard the original of "Twist and shout", f'rinstance. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:08:42 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > > > Superman (cover by R.E.M., original by The Clique) > I have that one. It's ace. > sions, so maybe that one doesn't quite count > > A few Clash songs: "Police on My Back," "Armagiddeon Time," "Police and > Thieves," though I did hear the original Vince Taylor "Brand New Cadillac" a > couple years ago, though I don't remember where. Good subset. I have "Police & Thieves", but not the other three (although I have heard The Fall's version of "Brand New Cadillac", which is more or less contemporaneous with The Clash's. > > Ed's Redeeming Qualities "Drivin' on 9" (The Breeders) Well, there's the other pitfall here-- that one I somehow didn't know was a cover. > > Buck Owens "Act Naturally" (The Beatles) And there's one where I've heard the original more often than the cover I've never heard the original "We Like Bananas," but since that's an old > Tin Pan Alley song, I don't think that counts. Yeah, I was avoiding that kind of thing in terms of true traditional songs as well. I have heard most of the originals of the R&B stuff that the British Invasion bands did, but probably not all. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:17:21 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Jan 4, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Dwarf > wrote: > I've never heard the original "We Like Bananas," > > This cannot stand! Go listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7289Lqwp35k That was great! Thanks! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:18:27 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Flying through the annopause... On Jan 3, 2009, at 10:39 AM, djini@voicenet.com wrote: > Happy 2009 everybody! Though in fegworld, it's still 2006! Why is that? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:29:02 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions This thread brings to mind a story that I enjoy remembering: From age 13 (when I first heard Joe Pop-o-pie's "Joe's 2nd record") until the age of 17, I was under the impression that "Truckin'" was by Mr. Pop-o-pie. (This made me understand the song not at all.) Late in my 17th year, I was listening to my friend Dave Hoffman (a punk rocker) DJ'ing a show on my college station WTSC-FM (Potsdam, NY's source for alternative music!) He was doing an all-request show and angry that people were not calling in with requests, and he said words to the effect of "Alright, you guys are not going to request anything, I'm playing 'Truckin''!" and spun the Dead tune. I was like wow, so *that's* why the version I know is called "Truckin' -- the slow version" and called up Dave demanding to know where he had got the Pop-o-pies record... J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:30:28 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Flying through the annopause... On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Jan 3, 2009, at 10:39 AM, djini@voicenet.com wrote: > >> Happy 2009 everybody! Though in fegworld, it's still 2006! > > Why is that? I was afraid to ask for fear of appearing ignorant... If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:19:32 -0800 From: "Terrence Marks" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions > So I was just unloading the dishwasher, and for whatever reason, "Black > Diamond" started running through my head. > And I thought, huh, that there is a cover version that I've listened to > probably hundreds of times over the past twenty years without *ever* having > heard the original version. That's awfully unusual for me... can't think of > another instance. Plenty of instances where I've heard a cover version way > more frequently than the original (by choice or otherwise), but the > hundreds: zero ration is pretty severe. > > Anyone else have one of these kicking around in their closet? Maybe the > same one? Have you ever heard Billy Roberts' version of "Hey Joe"? I recently picked up a collection of about 4000 mp3ified singles from the 1960s. I've heard enough covers of "Hey Joe" and "Gloria" that I don't want to hear either ever again. Not sure if I've ever heard Slim Harpo's version of "I'm a King Bee", either. Not sure if I've heard Pink Floyd's version hundreds of times either. Terrence Marks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:23:40 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > I've never heard the original "We Like Bananas," > > This cannot stand! Go listen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7289Lqwp35k > > The Hoosier Hotshots are the greatest. > J > Amen and then some. Particularly, anybody who enoys the Bonzo Dog Band should be able to get behind the Hot Shots. (Who never went near Tin Pan Alley far as I know, being strickly Midwestern.) Check out "From the Indies To the Andes (In His Undies)": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5U8iJ0fEns First time I heard this it was on a National Lampoon Radio Hour - but that was a different version of the tune, and I've never found it anywhere. And it's farging snowing again and I can hear cars slippin' and slidin' up the hill right now. Here we go again... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 08:51:29 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Out on the street for a living: unheard original versions Love Hurts - B. Bryant original from 1960. Although I have heard the subsequent Everely Brothers cover that was released following year. Roy Orbison also covered it the year after the Everly Brothers version, and I have yet to hear that version. I don't see anyone topping Gram and Emmylou's version though. Michael B. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V17 #3 ******************************