From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #793 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, December 2 2008 Volume 16 : Number 793 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Heads up, NY fegs: Waltz With Bashir [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: who could it be now ? [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Heads up, NY fegs: Waltz With Bashir [Sebastian Hagedorn ] RE: Queen Vs. Patti Smith ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: who could it be now ? ["kevin studyvin" ] RE: Queen and Patti Smith ["C. Huff" ] Re: Queen and Patti Smith ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Queen and Patti Smith ["C. Huff" ] Re: Queen Vs. Patti Smith ["Benjamin Lukoff" ] Unreap [James Dignan ] Re: who could it be now? [James Dignan ] Darth Mercury Heep [The Great Quail ] Will the real Lind Ryan please stand up? [James Dignan ] Re: Will the real Linda Ryan please stand up? [James Dignan ] Re: who could it be now ? [lep ] Re: Queen and Patti Smith [Rex ] Re: Queen and Patti Smith [lep ] Love and Fear ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Darth Mercury Heep [Rex ] Re: Queen and Patti Smith [2fs ] Re: Love and Fear [2fs ] Re: Queen and Patti Smith [Rex ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:57:33 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Heads up, NY fegs: Waltz With Bashir Hi, sorry, went to bed right after posting. - --On 1. Dezember 2008 15:36:29 -0800 Poem Lover wrote: > What is it? An animated movie about the Lebanon war of 1982, especially the Sabra and Shatila massacre. - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:16:01 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tech query On 11/30/08, 2fs wrote: > > Here's what I want to do: > > I've got a laptop, and I want to be able to play music via wireless > speakers in my study. > > > Thanks to all for their responses. And now for another question: if I buy another external hard drive identical to my first one, will that confuse my laptop? (The intention is to use the 2nd external drive as backup to the first one - they would not generally be connected simultaneously except in syncing their data.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:26:03 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: who could it be now ? On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:18 AM, craigie* wrote: > but in my heart I want it to be Be-Bop Deluxe. Couldn't be original members. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:44:31 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Heads up, NY fegs: Waltz With Bashir - --On 1. Dezember 2008 18:45:00 -0500 Jeremy Osner wrote: >> December, 25. I just saw it. It's absolutely devastating. That may not >> sound like a recommendation, but I'd have to say it is. > > "Devastating" was coincidentally (IIRC) the word RH used to describe > Ishiguro's "Never Let Me Go" in an interview I read last year, and I > did take that as a recommendation. Yeah, I can see that. I read that book, too. It didn't affect me as much as that movie last night, though. - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:51:56 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Queen Vs. Patti Smith - --On 1. Dezember 2008 20:05:37 -0800 Rex wrote: > Queen just doesn't really seem like a band to me. More like some kind of > elaborate marketing experiment that exceeded all expectations. At least regarding their first few records that's absurd. I won't defend the crap they made in the 80s, but 70s Queen records are just as idiosyncratic as our guy. It's not as though they pandered to an established taste. They created that particular market segment. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:00:10 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Queen Vs. Patti Smith On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn < Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: > --On 1. Dezember 2008 20:05:37 -0800 Rex > wrote: > > Queen just doesn't really seem like a band to me. More like some kind of >> elaborate marketing experiment that exceeded all expectations. >> > > At least regarding their first few records that's absurd. I won't defend > the crap they made in the 80s, but 70s Queen records are just as > idiosyncratic as our guy. Maybe, but it certainly doesn't sound that way in retrospect. Everything I've ever heard by them, even the early stuff, is extremely polished. The music, at least. None of it would be mistaken for "Hear My Brane". Maybe it's a function of how tastes evoved after the fact, but I feel pretty sure that Queen had superstardom and world domination as a goal in a way that the Soft Boys didn't, and went about it pretty methodically. Of course it's easy for me to say this, because I just plain don't like them... I could be all wrong. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:43:27 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Queen Vs. Patti Smith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:00 AM To: Sebastian Hagedorn Cc: Pigworkers Local 47 Subject: Re: Queen Vs. Patti Smith On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn < Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: >> --On 1. Dezember 2008 20:05:37 -0800 Rex >> wrote: >> >> Queen just doesn't really seem like a band to me. More like some >> kind of >>> elaborate marketing experiment that exceeded all expectations. >>> >> >> At least regarding their first few records that's absurd. I won't >> defend the crap they made in the 80s, but 70s Queen records are just >> as idiosyncratic as our guy. Rex came back with: >Maybe, but it certainly doesn't sound that way in retrospect. Everything I've ever heard by them, even the >early stuff, is extremely polished. The music, at least. None of it would be mistaken for "Hear My Brane". >Maybe it's a function of how tastes evoved after the fact, but I feel pretty sure that Queen had superstardom >and world domination as a goal in a way that the Soft Boys didn't, and went about it pretty methodically. >Of course it's easy for me to say this, because I just plain don't like them... I could be all wrong. I remember listening to the early 70's Queen albums back in the day as some of my friends had them, and the albums never hit home for me as the Led Zeppelin light approach didn't hit home. I was surprised that they had a Bohemian Rhapsody in them a couple of years after that, but they were too gimmicky for my tastes once they became huge so I never bought any of their albums. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:01:42 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Queen Vs. Patti Smith > > At least regarding their first few records that's absurd. I won't defend > > the crap they made in the 80s, but 70s Queen records are just as > > idiosyncratic as our guy. > > > Maybe, but it certainly doesn't sound that way in retrospect. Everything > I've ever heard by them, even the early stuff, is extremely polished. The > music, at least. None of it would be mistaken for "Hear My Brane". Maybe > it's a function of how tastes evoved after the fact, but I feel pretty sure > that Queen had superstardom and world domination as a goal in a way that > the > Soft Boys didn't, and went about it pretty methodically. > > Of course it's easy for me to say this, because I just plain don't like > them... I could be all wrong. > > -Rex > ...yeah...yawn... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:03:03 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: who could it be now ? On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:18 AM, craigie* wrote: but in my heart I want it to be Be-Bop Deluxe. >> > > Couldn't be original members. > > > - Steve > __________ > I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl > with a scythe. - John > > > Mott the Hoople? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:37:45 -0800 (PST) From: "C. Huff" Subject: RE: Queen and Patti Smith LOL re: Vanilla Ice. I must admit your logic is quite sound. My personal introduction to Queen came via Another One Bites The Dust which was everywhere at all times in the late 70s. Then there was of course the Flash Gordon soundtrack. I saw that one in the movie theater...yeeps! all the other stuff came around later... like I said. I have never had them pounded down my gullet. So I can certainly understand that. I only own the Greatest Hits and only listen to about 5 songs on it every blue moon. Not even that. Talking about them doesn't make me want to listen to them. Interesting. Oh, and unless the Internet has completely failed in recording every fact in history (always a possibility!), whoever told you that Brian May went to Juilliard is wrong. Brian May was/is an astronomer, studied astrophysics...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_may - doesn't appear to have ever gone to music school...let alone in the States... you'd think if Juilliard admits to the keyboard player from Bon Jovi, they'd be screaming loudly if Brian May went there - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juilliard#Notable_alumni ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:56:46 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Queen and Patti Smith On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:37 AM, C. Huff wrote: > My personal > introduction to Queen came via Another One Bites The Dust which was everywhere > at all times in the late 70s. It certainly was. You know what song I love, though? "Fat Bottom Girls" (or whatever the actual title of that song is) -- I thought that was by AC/DC but it appears to be by Queen. If so thank you Queen; that song makes up for the years of having to listen to "AOBTD" and "WWRY" as a lad. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:45:31 -0800 (PST) From: "C. Huff" Subject: Re: Queen and Patti Smith love Fat Bottomed Girls...that one may just have to hit the iPod... - --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Jeremy Osner wrote: It certainly was. You know what song I love, though? "Fat Bottom Girls" (or whatever the actual title of that song is) -- I thought that was by AC/DC but it appears to be by Queen. If so thank you Queen; that song makes up for the years of having to listen to "AOBTD" and "WWRY" as a lad. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 10:46:18 -0800 From: "Benjamin Lukoff" Subject: Re: Queen Vs. Patti Smith > From: Rex > > Not dissimilar from my experience. Were you told over and over again that > Queen was obviously great because Brian May had a degree from Julliard? > Because I was, really a lot, and it changed my opinion about the > correlation between academic musical achievements and awesome rock and roll > exactly 0%. Who told you that? He doesn't, unless it's honorary. He does, however, have B.Sc. (physics, math) and Ph.D. (astrophysics) degrees from Imperial College London. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:49:32 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Unreap >'BIGGEST REFORMATION' OF 2009 SET TO BE ANNOUNCED Uncut Outside of Led >Zeppelin, they're the biggest band of the 70s to reform - but who are they? > >http://www.uncut.co.uk/news/uncut/news/12533 Considering the bands that Uncut likes, it could well be this band here: James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:55:02 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: who could it be now? Craigie* wrote: >Slade's a possibility... but in my heart I want it to be Be-Bop Deluxe. Sadly, at least one of them's dead, too. The late great Charlie Tumahai, who later came to fame here in his homeland of NZ with our greatest-ever reggae band, Herbs. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:12:31 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Darth Mercury Heep Rex writes, > Queen just doesn't really seem like a band to me. More like some kind of > elaborate marketing experiment that exceeded all expectations. Man, early Queen was -- I mean... I can see if you don't like them. They tend to be one of those "love e'm or hate 'em" groups. But they have a very ambitious and unique sound, and combine aspects of British music hall, cabaret, arena rock, world music, opera, prog, metal, and jazz -- all into one weirdo mix, driven by a guy with more science degrees than the entire Bush administration and fronted by a flaming homosexual. You have to give them credit for being highly original, at least. > Mostly I'm > just irritated that they got all over a tiny little part of my Bowie > collection... Well, I think Mr. Bowie might view it a different way! Personally, I'm more concerned that "Tonight"-era Bowie got all over my Bowie collection. > and look what came out of that in the end-- Vanilla fucking > Ice. Thanks. Thanks really a lot. Now, come on. His goes, "Ding ding ding ding dingy ding-ding." Theirs goes, "Ding ding ding dingy ding-ding." C* writes, > Surely NOT Uriah Heep... please God, no... What? Like Uriah Heep does not rock so fucking hard their heads explode, and the angels catch on fire and fall sizzling into the sea, and from that boiling cacophony rises up a monster with guitars for hands and eyes made of flaming cymbals and a voice as loud as Gandalf and the Balrog *combined*?!?!? Man. I am flabbergasted. You really need to pull over your Camaro, take a deep, deep hit from that R2D2 bong, and just pop "Demons & Wizards" into the 8-track. Oh, and more to the point -- Uriah Heep have been back together for years, and put out a new album every few months, it seems. Miles writes, > Best STAR WARS product since 1980: KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC You speak the truth, brother Miles. KOTOR is the only thing that really captures the magic of the original SW, while actually expanding the notions into something more intense and thoughtful than idiotic midi-chlorians. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:47:24 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Will the real Lind Ryan please stand up? >I seen her laughing, but I never seen her cry > >Anyone want to talk about "Flesh Cartoons"? Here are some (perhaps >mis-) conceptions of mine in regards to the song: Linda Ryan -- is >this a name of a real person? I've always thought of it as Robyn's >generic name for the sexy stewardess in an airlines commercial. In the >beginning of the song it seems to me like he's scripting a low-budget >porn movie starring her. There is an actress called Linda Ryan - played a lot of small roles in the 70s as nurses, secretaries and the like in programmes like Hawaii 5-0 and Magnum PI. Not done any porn that I (or imdb) know of. HOWEVER - it seems possible, judging by the comments on this page (see point 8 on the list), that the song is about this woman: James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:34:46 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Will the real Lind Ryan please stand up? On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:47 PM, James Dignan wrote: > it seems possible, judging by the comments on this page (see point > 8 on the list), that the song is about this woman: > Oh wow, that's interesting. And makes (of course) more sense than my "generic sexy stewardess" theory. What does she mean by "we don't have rights to his early stuff"? Who are "we" and why would "we" have rights to RH's songs? ...Oh I see, she's talking about Rhapsody. Now Linda Ryan is reminding me of Vera Lynn. Though of course the parallel is pretty imperfect. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:14:59 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Queen Vs. Patti Smith Rex says: > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn < > Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> wrote: > >> --On 1. Dezember 2008 20:05:37 -0800 Rex >> wrote: >> >> Queen just doesn't really seem like a band to me. More like some kind of >>> elaborate marketing experiment that exceeded all expectations. >>> >> >> At least regarding their first few records that's absurd. I won't defend >> the crap they made in the 80s, but 70s Queen records are just as >> idiosyncratic as our guy. > > > Maybe, but it certainly doesn't sound that way in retrospect. Everything > I've ever heard by them, even the early stuff, is extremely polished. The > music, at least. None of it would be mistaken for "Hear My Brane". Maybe > it's a function of how tastes evoved after the fact, but I feel pretty sure > that Queen had superstardom and world domination as a goal in a way that the > Soft Boys didn't, and went about it pretty methodically. (Before I start opining re:Queen, I should say that I'm not completely up to speed on the thousand-or-so FegList Queen posts.) I've only really listened to 1970s-era Queen, but I've never thought of them as particularly polished. I mean, they often WAY overdo things, but I just figured they were being dramatic. One of my earliest 45s was "You're My Best Friend" backed with (I think it was called) "39". A hell of single, really - I still adore both of those songs. And, go ahead, shoot me, but the sentiment in "You're My Best Friend" is, to me, rather reminiscent of some of the songs on "Pet Sounds". It's just so damn sweet. Recent Queen-related personal event: I was in Trader Joe's a few weeks ago, and the "We Will Rock You" part of the "We Will Rock You / We are The Champions" (or whatever) was playing, and it *totally* gave me the creeps. That song is kind of...aggressive. That, in conjunction with The Phillies having won a game or the series the night before, made me realize just how much that song reminds me of being trampled to death by a mob of drunken sports fans. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:17:26 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Will the real Linda Ryan please stand up? >On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:47 PM, James Dignan wrote: >> it seems possible, judging by the comments on this page (see point >> 8 on the list), that the song is about this woman: >> > >Oh wow, that's interesting. And makes (of course) more sense than my >"generic sexy stewardess" theory. What does she mean by "we don't have >rights to his early stuff"? Who are "we" and why would "we" have >rights to RH's songs? ...Oh I see, she's talking about Rhapsody. Now >Linda Ryan is reminding me of Vera Lynn. Though of course the parallel >is pretty imperfect. May be that he just used the name to hand a section of a song off, like he did with mark Ellen in "Clean Steve". James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:17:30 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Queen Vs. Patti Smith Rex wrote: > > Were you told over and over again > that Queen was obviously great because Brian May had a degree from > Julliard? No, because PFMfH thought he was the late Mr Mercury. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:21:22 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: who could it be now ? craigie* says: > nope I'm done. No Idea. Magazine, silly. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:31:23 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Queen and Patti Smith On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:37 AM, C. Huff wrote: > Oh, and unless the Internet has completely failed in recording every fact > in history (always a possibility!), whoever told you that Brian May went to > Juilliard is wrong. Brian May was/is an astronomer, studied > astrophysics...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_may - doesn't appear to > have ever gone to music school...let alone in the States... > > Holy moly-- literally* hours of my life wasted by something that wasn't even true. Sadly kind of characteristic of that marriage, but still... why did it have to be Julliard in particular? Mysterious. Oh well... she was an oddly compulsive liar, but it's odd to find out about particular instances of it years after the fact. *Okay, not hours of being told the Brian May thing, but definitely hours, cumulatively, of the endless Queen conversation. *My favorite recent journalistic abuse of "literally" in recent weeks was in a story about those crazy oil tanker pirates: they were able to capture with just "literally a handful of boats". Neat! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:49:16 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Queen and Patti Smith Rex says: > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:37 AM, C. Huff wrote: > >> Oh, and unless the Internet has completely failed in recording every fact >> in history (always a possibility!), whoever told you that Brian May went to >> Juilliard is wrong. Brian May was/is an astronomer, studied >> astrophysics...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_may - doesn't appear to >> have ever gone to music school...let alone in the States... >> >> > > Holy moly-- literally* hours of my life wasted by something that wasn't even > true. oh, don't feel too bad - it happens. actually, i think it's the rare day when it *doesn't* happen to me. fortunately, i'm not that impressed by the truth. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:10:13 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Love and Fear How frequently does our man Robyn mention love and fear in close conjunction? The two examples that spring immediately to mind are "Aquarium" (All you need is love/ But all you get is afraid) and "So You Think" (What is love made of/ Nobody knows/ What are you afraid of/ Everyone knows/ It's love...) "I Something You" probably qualifies (Let me realize your fears) even though the word love is obviously never mentioned. Anything else? I think it might be a key for deeper insight into his music. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:54:48 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Darth Mercury Heep On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:12 PM, The Great Quail wrote: > Rex writes, > Man, early Queen was -- I mean... I can see if you don't like them. They > tend to be one of those "love e'm or hate 'em" groups. But they have a > very > ambitious and unique sound, and combine aspects of British music hall, > cabaret, arena rock, world music, opera, prog, metal, and jazz-- all into one weirdo mix, driven by a guy with more science degrees than the entire > Bush administration and fronted by a flaming homosexual. You have to give > them credit for being highly original, at least. Maybe, but... for my tastes, what a range of genres! There are maybe four genres of music that I actively dislike and three of them are on on that list (the fourth, modern musical theatre, is kind of implied as welI). As to the other roots forms there, I'd confess to knowing most of them only second-hand or in passing; none of them are passions of mine, so combining them isn't an especially exciting proposition. And the academic credentials and/or sexual orientation of the individual members of a band have historically had little to no effect-- I'm gonna say none with a fair amount of confidence-- on my enjoyment of a band. (Andy isn't gay, is he?) > Personally, I'm more > concerned that "Tonight"-era Bowie got all over my Bowie collection. It is distressing. I solve the problem by cutting off my Bowie collection just before that period. > Miles writes, > > > Best STAR WARS product since 1980: KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC > > You speak the truth, brother Miles. KOTOR is the only thing that really > captures the magic of the original SW, while actually expanding the notions > into something more intense and thoughtful than idiotic midi-chlorians. > This is probably tantamount to heresy, but... well, my kids really really love that Clone Wars cartoon, and seeing them get all into it really hits the nostalgic spot for me, so... I actually kind of enjoy it, too. I think it has a good deal to do with the fact that, with the prequels over, I don't have to live out the every-three-years dilemma of hoping against hope for an actual good new Star Wars movie that's useful to me as an adult. It wasn't gonna happen, and now I'm free to enjoy that universe the way I used to: as a seven-year-old. There's very little that's cooler than getting your Halloween geek on as a multi-generational Jedi posse, especially with these badass Force FX lightsabers that I lucked into last year: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=978385&id=815318458 Yeah, I know it's dorky, but it was way fun. Trick-or-treating is beyond fantastic in my neighborhood. We pwnt. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:09:47 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Queen and Patti Smith On 12/2/08, Rex wrote: > > > *My favorite recent journalistic abuse of "literally" in recent weeks was > in > a story about those crazy oil tanker pirates: they were able to capture > with just "literally a handful of boats". Neat! You jest now - but wait till *you're* taken over by a mere handful of ultraminiature boats crewed by teensy, fingernail-sized pirates. Or you could just step on them. (I'd love a link to that - did they *really* write "literally a handful of boats"? I suppose one could argue that "handful" just means "five or less"...but, uh, I don't buy it. A handful of ball bearings is a lot more than a handful of apples, say.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:12:11 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Love and Fear On 12/2/08, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > How frequently does our man Robyn mention love and fear in close > conjunction? The two examples that spring immediately to mind are > "Aquarium" (All you need is love/ But all you get is afraid) and "So > You Think" (What is love made of/ Nobody knows/ What are you afraid > of/ Everyone knows/ It's love...) "I Something You" probably qualifies > (Let me realize your fears) even though the word love is obviously > never mentioned. Anything else? I think it might be a key for deeper > insight into his music. Dunno - but you have been directed to the Asking Tree, no? < http://www.jh3.com/robyn/base/default.asp> Has almost all of Robyn's lyrics...so you can do your own textual analysis. Me, I'm curious how many people are named in his songs...particularly "Reg"es (names that seem to exist primarily as rhymes)... Years ago, can't remember where, I read about some hipster in the late '60s who threw a Dylan party - everyone who came had to dress up as a character from a Dylan song. Not many folks' songs have enough characters to make that work - but Robyn's definitely another. Anyone else? Steely Dan, maybe...? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:31:27 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Queen and Patti Smith On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:09 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 12/2/08, Rex wrote: >> >> >> (I'd love a link to that - did they *really* write "literally a handful of > boats"? No, it was broadcast. It was NPR field correspondent doing a phone interview with the studio crew, I think. But it was real... I heard it twice. - -Rex ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #793 ********************************