From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #789 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, November 27 2008 Volume 16 : Number 789 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: request ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: request ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: HOT TUNA was Philly show ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: HOT TUNA was Philly show ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: HOT TUNA was Philly show ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: request [Tom Clark ] Re: Philly show [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Philly show [2fs ] dec 21 [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] With your advanced alloy and my high-tech railroad, we'll revitalize our country's failing infrastructure and make big, virtuous profits. (NR) [] Re: request [lep ] Re: request [2fs ] Re: Tell me about your drugs [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Philly show ["kevin studyvin" ] RE: Philly show ["C. Huff" ] shameless me-ism, 0% Robyn ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: Philly show and F.G.A.B. [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Axl vs. Dr. Pepper [craigie* ] Re: Philly show and F.G.A.B. [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Philly show and F.G.A.B. ["kevin studyvin" ] to all fegs [lep ] Re: Philly show and F.G.A.B. [lep ] Re: to all fegs ["Jeremy Osner" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:48:44 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: request On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Robyn Hitchcock wrote: > There's a thin line between "yes" and "no." This joke crosses the thin line inscribed around the realm of "Funny". If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:50:05 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: request On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > This joke crosses the thin line inscribed around the realm of "Funny". (That is, unless Lauren lives in that realm, in which case the joke fails to cross the line.) If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:52:44 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: HOT TUNA was Philly show Jeremy Osner wrote: > > At this point in time I think "Hesitation Blues" is as > much Hot Tuna's song as it is Gary Davis'. eesh, what wimpy versions of this old fiddle tune stomper! Three versions of this tune that'll kick your ass six ways to Sunday: * Charlie Poole - "If The River Was Whiskey" (1926-ish) * Holy Modal Rounders - "Hesitation Blues" (1964 - and the first known recorded song that uses the word "psychedelic") * Reaves White County Ramblers - "Hesitation Blues" (1928) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:02:29 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: HOT TUNA was Philly show On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > * Reaves White County Ramblers - "Hesitation Blues" (1928) Wow thanks, somehow I had always thought this song was Davis' original composition. Obviously not! Googling brings up some interesting-looking CD releases like this one: http://www.jr.com/product/music/pm/_546875/ J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:15:46 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: HOT TUNA was Philly show Jeremy Osner wrote: > > some interesting-looking CD releases like this one: > http://www.jr.com/product/music/pm/_546875/ I think I have that one. I'm a sucker for JSP sets; they're cheap, well researched, they don't have a ton of extraneous junk and have had great cleanup jobs done on the tracks. The same can't be said of more expensive sets (SI Folkways, I'm lookin' at you). Charlie Poole was the original punk rocker; shows up those modern punks for the whiny little art school skelfs that they are. Wonder what happened to the movie they were making about him? They probably cancelled it 'cos they couldn't handle the purity. Stewart (hopped up on cold meds) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:58:29 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: request On Nov 26, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Robyn Hitchcock wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Duncan MacDougall > wrote: >> Furrry Grreen Atom Bowl! > > There's a thin line between "yes" and "no." Nice. I meant to comment on your 'thin line' comment earlier, but apparently there's a thin line between relevancy and timeliness. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:06:17 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Philly show On Nov 26, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Bachman, Michael wrote: > Lots of great Jorma guitar bits from his Jefferson Airplane days, > but the solos on the studio version of Wooden Ships from the > Volunteers album is my favorite. Too bad they went downhill so fast > after reaching their pinnacle on Volunteers, loosing not only > Spencer Dryden but also Marty Balin within a year. I must respectfully disagree. Crown of Creation and Volunteers fall just short of After Bathing at Baxter's, although the three make up a very fine run. Everybody should have a copy of Baxter's. On Nov 26, 2008, at 11:01 AM, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > I think the only album I have of theirs is "Bark" Say it with me -- Everybody should have a copy of Baxter's! On Nov 26, 2008, at 12:23 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > His picking on Eskimo Blue Day is also great, though the song > itself is crap Problem with the lyrics? > If you don't mind heat in your river and > Fork tongue talking from me > Swim like an eel fantastic snake > Take my love when it's free > Electric feel with me > You call it loud > But the human crowd > Doesn't mean shit to a tree Jack and Jorma rule. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:31:24 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Philly show On 11/26/08, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > On Nov 26, 2008, at 10:18 AM, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > Lots of great Jorma guitar bits from his Jefferson Airplane days, but the >> solos on the studio version of Wooden Ships from the Volunteers album is my >> favorite. Too bad they went downhill so fast after reaching their pinnacle >> on Volunteers, loosing not only Spencer Dryden but also Marty Balin within a >> year. >> > > I must respectfully disagree. Crown of Creation and Volunteers fall just > short of After Bathing at Baxter's, although the three make up a very fine > run. Everybody should have a copy of Baxter's. I think I'd rank Baxter's ahead of Volunteers, slightly, which is ahead of Crown, slightly. Pillow almost seems by a different band...and of course, before that, it pretty much was (pre-Slick). I'll also defend, to a degree, Bark and Long John Silver (hell, even Dragonfly or Red Octopus have their moments...). Mostly because I'm kind of a sucker for Kantner's anthems...but also, on Bark, there's some fanfuckingtastic Jack Casady bass ("War Movie" and "When the Earth Moves Again"). I may even have to defend, to an even lesser degree, Baron von Tollbooth, Sunfighter, and Blows Against the Empire...but the last one in particular sounds more improvised than written (and there are two songs on the same two chords that are pretty much indistinguishable, and they're each like 6-8 minutes long...so definitely not top-flight albums by any stretch. But they had moments, I tells ya. Sunfighter's got that hilarious Grace song about cannibalism, for instance... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:38:58 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: dec 21 http://www.robynhitchcock.com/posters/a6postcard_CS3_2.jpg my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:03:40 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: With your advanced alloy and my high-tech railroad, we'll revitalize our country's failing infrastructure and make big, virtuous profits. (NR) - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:17:59 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: request tc wrote: > On Nov 26, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Robyn Hitchcock wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Duncan MacDougall >> wrote: >>> >>> Furrry Grreen Atom Bowl! >> >> There's a thin line between "yes" and "no." > > Nice. I meant to comment on your 'thin line' comment earlier, but > apparently there's a thin line between relevancy and timeliness. i think it was jeremy who brought up robyn's "thin line" refrain. xo p.s. there's a thin line between memory and history. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:00:05 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: request On 11/26/08, lep wrote: > > > > p.s. there's a thin line between memory and history. > Quite. Merely take the ascender from the "h" of history, then fold it over so it joins the remaining "n" character and links it to the "i" (whose dot is beneath the resulting arch), forming an "m" for memory. Next, take the curve of memory's "e" and turn half of it the other way around, reserving the bar for later, and use it for the "s" in history. Finally, turn the "t" on its side, remove its crossbar, bend it in a tighter angle, then attach the leftover bar from the "e" and the crossbar from the "t" and bend it to the same tighter angle, and join the two angles to form the second "m" in memory. Okay, it's less a thin line than a complex set of manipulations of some lines, but, uh, there's something about lines in there anyway. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:11:02 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Tell me about your drugs - -- Jeremy Osner is rumored to have mumbled on 26. November 2008 07:08:10 -0500 regarding Re: Tell me about your drugs: > The line "We get messed up by forces that we just don't understand!" > is echoing around my brane all night. Perhaps I dreamed in German? I > woke up singing, "Von maechten wird man verwirrt, die man einfach > nicht versteht..." Was meinst du Sebastian, passt's? Yup, well done. You're missing a syllable in the first stanza, but I guess you can stretch one of the others so it works. And perhaps "von Kraeften" insted of "von Maechten", because what you dreamed is more like "powers" than "forces", but presumably that's really not much of a difference unless you're a science geek(?). - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:02:06 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: request On Nov 26, 2008, at 10:00 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 11/26/08, lep wrote: >> >> >> >> p.s. there's a thin line between memory and history. >> > > Quite. Merely take the ascender from the "h" of history, then fold > it over > so it joins the remaining "n" character and links it to the > "i" (whose dot > is beneath the resulting arch), forming an "m" for memory. Next, > take the > curve of memory's "e" and turn half of it the other way around, > reserving > the bar for later, and use it for the "s" in history. Finally, turn > the "t" > on its side, remove its crossbar, bend it in a tighter angle, then > attach > the leftover bar from the "e" and the crossbar from the "t" and > bend it to > the same tighter angle, and join the two angles to form the second > "m" in > memory. > Don't fuck with typography Mr. Norman or my "Design and Type Fundamentals" class will be roasting on hot coals some day soon...and it will be your fault! Happy Motoring, - - c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:26:46 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Philly show > On Nov 26, 2008, at 12:23 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > His picking on Eskimo Blue Day is also great, though the song itself is >> crap >> > > Problem with the lyrics? > Late nite dorm room rap session jive, uh huh. > > > Jack and Jorma rule. They do that. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:59:23 -0800 (PST) From: "C. Huff" Subject: RE: Philly show LMAO @ the Ryan Adams - summer of 69 thing Re: So Lonely - I had a similar experience at a Beck show in 2000 - these two drunk idiots were screaming "Cold Brains" over and over and then when he played it SOLO ACOUSTIC, they ran up and down the aisles for the entire song screaming "He's playing Cold Brains! He's playing Cold Brains!" Nobody stopped them either...so much for concert security...definitely an argument for putting horse tranquilizers in beer... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:16:40 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: shameless me-ism, 0% Robyn I can totally top Axl Rose -- I record about one song every 5 years. A few fegs heard my song on Rex's Tinfoil Thoths comp, and fewer heard a homemade CD of stuff I made in 2001. My current imaginary band is called The Misbelieves, ever since the imaginary Bicycle Thieves and Popsicle Thieves told each other to piss off. The Misbelieves have recorded a song, a tribute to a real band that none of you ever heard of, and it's at http://misbelieves.com if anyone wants to hear it. It is impossible to spend money or view advertising at my site. cheers, +brian in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:04:16 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Philly show and F.G.A.B. - --On 26. November 2008 00:20:10 -0600 Miles Goosens wrote: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, C. Huff wrote: >> >> If you like Buffy, Carrie, you'll probably like the first 3 Star Wars >> (the original ones). > > I'm proof that this isn't an exact correlation. I adore all things > Whedon, but God was never my scene and I don't like STAR WARS. Seconded. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:13:06 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Axl vs. Dr. Pepper It took Axl Rose 14 years to complete the latest Guns Nb Roses album. But it took his lawyers only two days to take Dr Pepper to task for not making good on a promise of free soda to beveryone in Americab in celebration. Dr Pepper and Rocker in a War of Hype http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/27/arts/music/27pepp.html?_r=1&th&emc=th By BEN SISARIO Published: November 26, 2008 It took Axl Rose 14 years to complete the latest Guns Nb Roses album. But it took his lawyers only two days to take Dr Pepper to task for not making good on a promise of free soda to beveryone in Americab in celebration. In March the manufacturer made headlines by saying it would give out cans of its 123-year-old soft drink if the album, bChinese Democracy,b came out by the end of the year. That was by no means a sure proposition, since Mr. Rose had failed to meet so many deadlines over the years that the album had become the music industrybs most notorious (and expensive) shaggy-dog story. On Sunday the album was finally released, and Dr Pepper gave fans 24 hours to go to its Web site for a coupon redeemable for a can of soda; so many did that the site crashed, and the deadline was extended to Monday. bWe never thought this day would come,b said Tony Jacobs, a Dr Pepper marketing executive, in a statement last week. The arrangement irked fans, who took to the Internet with stories of being blocked for hours from the site and a related customer-service phone line. And that irked Mr. Rose. On Tuesday his lawyers sent a harshly worded letter to the soft drink maker complaining of its bappalling failure to make good on a promise it made to the American public,b and demanding a public apology, more time for thirsty fans, and payment for piggybacking on the bChinese Democracyb publicity. When asked about the letter, Dr Pepper said in a statement that the company took bgreat stepsb to accommodate the online requests from consumers. bThis was one of the largest responses we have ever received for a giveaway,b the statement said, band webre happy we were able to satisfy the thirst of so many Dr Pepper fans.b A spokesman said it was not known how many free sodas were given away on Sunday and Monday. Mr. Rosebs representatives said that they tried to collaborate with Dr Pepper on the best way to distribute the soda, but that negotiations broke down. bWe had made an effort to turn this into a win-win-win b for the American public, Dr Pepper and Axl,b said Laurie Soriano, one of Mr. Rosebs lawyers. b But Dr Pepperbs view was just that Dr Pepper would win.b The music industry had largely given up hope that bChinese Democracyb would ever come out. Still, many assumed that if it ever was released it would likely be a gigantic seller. Guns Nb Roses, one of the most popular American bands of the last 30 years, has sold more than 40 million albums in the United States alone, according to the Recording Industry Association of America. But anecdotal reports suggest that bChinese Democracy,b which was released through an exclusive deal with the Best Buy chain, might not be the blockbuster the industry had hoped for. Sales figures will not be available until next week, but early estimates put the first-week total at 300,000 to 500,000 copies, a respectable but not extraordinary amount. Last week, for example, BeyoncC) sold 482,000 copies of her latest record, bI Am ... Sasha Fierce.b The letter from Mr. Rosebs lawyers asks that Dr Pepper run apologetic full-page ads in The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times and other papers, giving customers more time to receive their free soda. Similar sentiments spread across Guns Nb Roses message boards on Sunday. bIf they said theybd give a free can to everyone in America,b one fan wrote, bcan they really put a one-day time limit on it? Seems like itbs something that if someone took to court theybd win.b my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:38:28 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Philly show and F.G.A.B. yeah, yeah, and all you want to do is Bicycle, right? ;-) c* On 27/11/2008, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > --On 26. November 2008 00:20:10 -0600 Miles Goosens < > outdoorminer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, C. Huff wrote: >> >>> >>> If you like Buffy, Carrie, you'll probably like the first 3 Star Wars >>> (the original ones). >>> >> >> I'm proof that this isn't an exact correlation. I adore all things >> Whedon, but God was never my scene and I don't like STAR WARS. >> > > Seconded. > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:41:02 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Axl vs. Dr. Pepper so... THAT'S the worst that can happen, then? c* On 27/11/2008, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > It took Axl Rose 14 years to complete the latest Guns Nb Roses album. > But it > took his lawyers only two days to take Dr Pepper to task for not making > good > on a promise of free soda to b everyone in Americab in celebration. > > Dr Pepper and Rocker in a War of Hype > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/27/arts/music/27pepp.html?_r=1&th&emc=th > By BEN SISARIO > Published: November 26, 2008 > It took Axl Rose 14 years to complete the latest Guns Nb Roses album. But > it > took his lawyers only two days to take Dr Pepper to task for not making > good > on a promise of free soda to b everyone in Americab in celebration. > In March the manufacturer made headlines by saying it would give out cans > of > its 123-year-old soft drink if the album, b Chinese Democracy,b came out > by > the end of the year. That was by no means a sure proposition, since Mr. > Rose > had failed to meet so many deadlines over the years that the album had > become > the music industryb s most notorious (and expensive) shaggy-dog story. > On Sunday the album was finally released, and Dr Pepper gave fans 24 hours > to go to its Web site for a coupon redeemable for a can of soda; so many > did > that the site crashed, and the deadline was extended to Monday. > b We never thought this day would come,b said Tony Jacobs, a Dr Pepper > marketing executive, in a statement last week. > The arrangement irked fans, who took to the Internet with stories of being > blocked for hours from the site and a related customer-service phone line. > And > that irked Mr. Rose. > On Tuesday his lawyers sent a harshly worded letter to the soft drink > maker > complaining of its b appalling failure to make good on a promise it made > to > the American public,b and demanding a public apology, more time > for thirsty > fans, and payment for piggybacking on the b Chinese Democracyb publicity. > When asked about the letter, Dr Pepper said in a statement that the > company > took b great stepsb to accommodate the online requests from consumers. > b This was one of the largest responses we have ever received for > a giveaway,b > the statement said, b and web re happy we were able to satisfy the thirst > of > so many Dr Pepper fans.b > A spokesman said it was not known how many free sodas were given away on > Sunday and Monday. > Mr. Roseb s representatives said that they tried to collaborate with Dr > Pepper on the best way to distribute the soda, but that negotiations broke > down. > b We had made an effort to turn this into a win-win-win b for the > American > public, Dr Pepper and Axl,b said Laurie Soriano, one of Mr. Roseb s > lawyers. b > But Dr Pepperb s view was just that Dr Pepper would win.b > The music industry had largely given up hope that b Chinese > Democracyb would > ever come out. Still, many assumed that if it ever was released it would > likely be a gigantic seller. Guns Nb Roses, one of the most popular > American > bands of the last 30 years, has sold more than 40 million albums in the > United > States alone, according to the Recording Industry Association of America. > But anecdotal reports suggest that b Chinese Democracy,b which was > released > through an exclusive deal with the Best Buy chain, might not be the > blockbuster the industry had hoped for. Sales figures will not be > available until next > week, but early estimates put the first-week total at 300,000 to 500,000 > copies, a respectable but not extraordinary amount. Last week, for > example, > BeyoncC) sold 482,000 copies of her latest record, b I Am ... Sasha > Fierce.b > The letter from Mr. Roseb s lawyers asks that Dr Pepper run apologetic > full-page ads in The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times and > other papers, giving > customers more time to receive their free soda. > Similar sentiments spread across Guns Nb Roses message boards on Sunday. > b If they said theyb d give a free can to everyone in America,b one fan > wrote, b can they really put a one-day time limit on it? Seems like itb s > something > that if someone took to court theyb d win.b > > my blog is "Yer Blog" > http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ > http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ > > **************Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW > AOL.com. > ( > http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002 > ) > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:43:23 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Philly show and F.G.A.B. - --On 27. November 2008 12:38:28 +0000 craigie* wrote: > yeah, yeah, and all you want to do is Bicycle, right? I thought it's either "be friends with you" or "fall in love"!? - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:15:25 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Philly show and F.G.A.B. On 11/27/08, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > --On 26. November 2008 00:20:10 -0600 Miles Goosens < > outdoorminer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, C. Huff wrote: >> >>> >>> If you like Buffy, Carrie, you'll probably like the first 3 Star Wars >>> (the original ones). >>> >> >> I'm proof that this isn't an exact correlation. I adore all things >> Whedon, but God was never my scene and I don't like STAR WARS. > > God Who? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:20:25 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Philly show and F.G.A.B. You know...your Krishna, your Artemis, your JHVH, your Ahura Mazda...those guys. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:15 AM, 2fs wrote: > On 11/27/08, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > > > --On 26. November 2008 00:20:10 -0600 Miles Goosens < > > outdoorminer@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, C. Huff wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> If you like Buffy, Carrie, you'll probably like the first 3 Star Wars > >>> (the original ones). > >>> > >> > >> I'm proof that this isn't an exact correlation. I adore all things > >> Whedon, but God was never my scene and I don't like STAR WARS. > > > > > God Who? > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:11:04 -0500 From: lep Subject: to all fegs of the u.s.: i hope you have a great thanksgiving. and to all else: have (hope you had?) a lovely thursday. as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:34:22 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Philly show and F.G.A.B. Miles says: > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, C. Huff wrote: >> >> If you like Buffy, Carrie, you'll probably like the first 3 Star Wars (the >> original ones). > > I'm proof that this isn't an exact correlation. I adore all things > Whedon, but God was never my scene and I don't like STAR WARS. Miles, i'm kind of confused by what you've said here, mostly because I happen to know, for a fact, that you're quite fond of "Battlestar Galactica". I mean, if "Star Wars" is about God, it's about God in the mythic sense (supposedly Lucas based it on Joseph Campbell's "Hero of a Thousand Faces.") Any time I've tried to interpret it in a more narrow sense, it just ends up seeming to come out of a Buddhist perspective (and they don't even a have a God (or at least, a regular God.)) (N.B.: I'm speaking the 1977 "Star Wars" and also "The Empire Strikes Back", mostly because I don't much remember any of the others.) The part that's confusing me is how you see BSG if not about God in the way "Star Wars" is about God - IMO, BSG is so very much about myth and mythic archetypes. Personally, I very much like Whedon, but don't love him, and I think the lack of love is about exactly the distinction you're getting at. In a way, Whedon isn't "big" enough for me - his characters and his stories are wonderful, but they just don't leave thinking about the Big Questions. I think I see his stories as adventure stories rather than God stories. as ever, Lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:03:29 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: to all fegs Thanks! We're in the U.S. but are having a lovely thursday. Our great thanksgiving (assuming everything goes according to plan) will take place tomorrow). We saw "Bolt" just now and found it acion-packed. Fun watching even without the 3-D spex -- our theater was showing a conventional print, apparently it comes both ways. Occasionally treacly; and apparently nobody told Pixar's rendering programs that cats do not have whites in their eyes -- that got a little distracting. J (And tonight after the little one goes to bed, Ellen and I are planning to watch "O Lucky Man!") If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:11 PM, lep wrote: > of the u.s.: i hope you have a great thanksgiving. > > and to all else: have (hope you had?) a lovely thursday. > > as ever, > lauren > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #789 ********************************