From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #783 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, November 21 2008 Volume 16 : Number 783 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: New York Dolls Reunite With Todd Rundgren for Album ["Jeremy Osner" <] Chicago set list [Michael Sweeney ] Re: Chicago set list ["Sumiko Keay" ] Re: Hitchcock and Hitchcock ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] am I missing something? [Jill Brand ] Re: am I missing something? [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: am I missing something? ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: am I missing something? ["kevin studyvin" ] Quasi-RH tidbits ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Quasi-RH tidbits ["Sumiko Keay" ] Re: Hitchcock and Hitchcock [James Dignan ] Re: Hitchcock and Hitchcock ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Hitchcock and Hitchcock [James Dignan ] Re: am I missing something? ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: am I missing something? [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: Quasi-RH tidbits [Tom Clark ] Re: am I missing something? ["(0% rh)" ] Re: Quasi-RH tidbits ["(0% rh)" ] Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: am I missing something? ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Reap ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Quasi-RH tidbits ["kevin studyvin" ] attn: US Dr. Pepper drinkers [2fs ] Re: am I missing something? [2fs ] Re: am I missing something? [2fs ] Re: am I missing something? ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: am I missing something? ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: am I missing something? [2fs ] Re: am I missing something? ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: am I missing something? [2fs ] REAP [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Quasi-RH tidbits [craigie* ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:49:55 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: New York Dolls Reunite With Todd Rundgren for Album > ...Wow, sounds like it...esp. since, of Wings, only poor ol' Denny Laine -- > who I bet wasn't there -- and maybe the once-astoundingly young Jimmy > McCulloch -- who I KNOW wasn't there (having died nearly 30 yrs ago now) -- > woulda been worth seeing / hearing. No, Denny was there. If memory serves, he was good, too, if a bit on the corny side of the scale. If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:55:54 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Chicago set list >November 15, 2008 The Old Town School of Folk Music Chicago, IL 01) Intro/Sometimes I Wish I was a Pretty Girl (tape) 02) Nocturne (Prelude) 03) Flavor of Night 04) Cathedral 05) Sounds Great When You're Dead 06) Uncorrected Personality Traits 07) Winter Love 08) This Could Be the Day 09) I Used to Say I Love You 10) Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus 11) Trams of Old London 12) My Favourite Buildings 13) That's Fantastic, Mother Church 14) Heart Full of Leaves 15) Autumn is Your Last Chance 16) I Often Dream of Trains 17) encore break 18) What You Is 19) Raining Twilight Coast 20) Goodnight I Say < That was the early show...the 10 PM show had a few "IODOT" song in different order...then the encores were: Ghost Ship Queen Elvis Raymond Chandler Evening Ole Tarantula Goodnight I Say ...very nice. Michael "Also: Polka-dotted guitar; non-polka-dotted shirt..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the Im a PC Messenger themepack now. hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:14:41 -0600 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: Chicago set list Is he playing more than one show anywhere else? It would be interesting to see how he's changing it up. Sumi (still sad that she missed those shows due to lack of $$ and transport.) On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Michael Sweeney wrote: >>November 15, 2008 The Old Town School of Folk Music Chicago, IL 01) > Intro/Sometimes I Wish I was a Pretty Girl (tape) 02) Nocturne (Prelude) 03) > Flavor of Night 04) Cathedral 05) Sounds Great When You're Dead 06) > Uncorrected Personality Traits 07) Winter Love 08) This Could Be the Day 09) I > Used to Say I Love You 10) Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus 11) Trams of Old > London 12) My Favourite Buildings 13) That's Fantastic, Mother Church 14) > Heart Full of Leaves 15) Autumn is Your Last Chance 16) I Often Dream of > Trains 17) encore break 18) What You Is 19) Raining Twilight Coast 20) > Goodnight I Say < > > That was the early show...the 10 PM show had a few "IODOT" song in different > order...then the encores were: > > Ghost Ship > Queen Elvis > Raymond Chandler Evening > Ole Tarantula > Goodnight I Say > > ...very nice. > > > Michael "Also: Polka-dotted guitar; non-polka-dotted shirt..." Sweeney > > _________________________________________________________________ > Proud to be a PC? Show the world. Download the I m a PC Messenger themepack > now. > hthttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642558/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:20:21 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: Re: Hitchcock and Hitchcock reading through the latest digest, i notice that i responded onlist to a coupla private correspondences from jeremy. sorry 'bout that, mang! <> heh, even as a youngster, i was enchanted with the "rear window" in denace the menace's pyjamas. it turns out, though, that *Rear Window* *is* my grandmama's favourite movie. (or, was: she's dead now.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:25:11 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: am I missing something? Kevin's response to this: > > i love NXNW - probably my favourite hitchcock (alfred) after "vertigo" > (which i always name as my favourite movie, period (i don't know if it > actually is, but it may as well be.)) was this: "If I have a favorite it's probably almost guaranteed to be Satyricon. Or maybe O Lucky Man!, which isn't nearly as well-known as it should be (and seems to me something the feg-mind would naturally gravitate to)." And my response to that is - ??????????????????????????????????????? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:34:18 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: am I missing something? NxNW used to be my favorite movie until one time i caught it starting from the middle it suddenly seemed silly ? my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 11/20/2008 3:31:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jlbrand@bu.edu writes: > i love NXNW - probably my favourite hitchcock (alfred) after "vertigo" > (which i always name as my favourite movie, period (i don't know if it > actually is, but it may as well be.)) **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:42:32 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: am I missing something? > until one time i caught it starting from the middle > it suddenly seemed silly ? But, but NxNW is *supposed* to be silly -- it's a *spoof*. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:40:33 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: am I missing something? favorite movie = Fellini's Satyricon. Or maybe Lindsay Anderson's obscure O Lucky Man!, which is worth looking at if you can find it (woh - Netflix has it) and has a groove that I should think would appeal to fans of the living, if not the dead, Hitchcock. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Jill Brand wrote: > Kevin's response to this: > > >> i love NXNW - probably my favourite hitchcock (alfred) after "vertigo" >> (which i always name as my favourite movie, period (i don't know if it >> actually is, but it may as well be.)) >> > > was this: > "If I have a favorite it's probably almost guaranteed to be Satyricon. Or > maybe O Lucky Man!, which isn't nearly as well-known as it should be (and > seems to me something the feg-mind would naturally gravitate to)." > > And my response to that is - ??????????????????????????????????????? > > Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:44:55 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Quasi-RH tidbits 1. Boreanas made reference to "Chinese bones" on Bones last night. 2. Went to get into an elevator this AM, but coming out of it was a citizen resembling RH to the degree I was a little confused for a second there - tall, lean, silvery pop-star do, slightly scruffy appearance, prominent beak - - but he spoke pure Texas. And the bone structure was more David Byrne-ish. Still... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:53:34 -0600 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: Quasi-RH tidbits I didn't even notice DB saying that. Of course, it was totally a context where Chinese bones meant bones that were Chinese and nothing else. Sumi On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:44 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > 1. Boreanas made reference to "Chinese bones" on Bones last night. > > 2. Went to get into an elevator this AM, but coming out of it was a citizen > resembling RH to the degree I was a little confused for a second there - > tall, lean, silvery pop-star do, slightly scruffy appearance, prominent beak > - but he spoke pure Texas. And the bone structure was more David > Byrne-ish. Still... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:12:35 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Hitchcock and Hitchcock <"The Wrong Balloon Man"?> "Uncorrected personality traits" and "Man with a woman's shadow" are both surely about "Psycho", no? :) Shadowcat of a doubt? 39 steps (on the Northern Line)? Lauren wrote: >i love NXNW - probably my favourite hitchcock (alfred) after "vertigo" >(which i always name as my favourite movie, period (i don't know if it >actually is, but it may as well be.)) i think my love of formalism is >showing here - formalism is nothing if not contrived (and i do like to >colour inside the lines.) My fave AH movies would be Rear Window, NxNW, The trouble with Harry, Shadow of a doubt,The 39 steps, and Vertigo, FWIW. Movies overall is trickier - I like slow, arty films (2001, La dolce vita, Blow up, Wings of desire, Koyaanisqatsi) and comedies (The party, I'm all right Jack, Duck soup, Annie Hall, A fish called Wanda), noir (The Maltese falcon, Double indemnity), things which don't fit those bills (A hard day's night, Chicken run, Gilda, The right stuff)... hell, as long as its good and it touches the right spots in the right way. And (since I know you're interested, riiight...) my favourite NZ movie would be "The quiet earth", with a terrific performance from Bruno Lawrence. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:17:31 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Hitchcock and Hitchcock > "Uncorrected personality traits" and "Man with a woman's shadow" are both > surely about "Psycho", no? :) > Also (as my friend Janis pointed out the other day) "Sometimes I Wish I Was a Pretty Girl So I Could Stab Myself in the Shower" If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:23:18 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: Hitchcock and Hitchcock > > "Uncorrected personality traits" and "Man with a woman's shadow" are both >> surely about "Psycho", no? :) >> > >Also (as my friend Janis pointed out the other day) "Sometimes I Wish >I Was a Pretty Girl So I Could Stab Myself in the Shower" oh, of course. How did I miss that one? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:29:52 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: am I missing something? > Lucky Man!, which is worth looking at if you can find it (woh - Netflix has > it) and has a groove that I should think would appeal to fans of the living, > if not the dead, Hitchcock. Awesome -- love McDowell. Will watch it sometime soon. (Speaking of surrealistic musicals, do you know "The Umbrellas of Cherbourg"?) If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:18:16 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: am I missing something? On Nov 20, 2008, at 1:40 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > favorite movie = Fellini's Satyricon. Or maybe Lindsay Anderson's > obscure O > Lucky Man!, which is worth looking at if you can find it (woh - > Netflix has > it) and has a groove that I should think would appeal to fans of > the living, > if not the dead, Hitchcock. > I'm a big fan of Fellini, of course, but really like his lesser known or appreciated works - City of Women and Casanova, in particular. Oddly enough, there's a line in One Long Pair of Eyes that references Fellini's Casanova: "On the black Fellini sails Tattered rags that hang on nails..." - - c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:05:43 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Quasi-RH tidbits On Nov 20, 2008, at 1:44 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > 2. Went to get into an elevator this AM, but coming out of it was a > citizen > resembling RH to the degree I was a little confused for a second > there - > tall, lean, silvery pop-star do, slightly scruffy appearance, > prominent beak > - but he spoke pure Texas. And the bone structure was more David > Byrne-ish. Still... Byrne has fit that profile for a while though. And knowing him he could have been putting on the accent for the fun of it! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:58:33 -0500 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: am I missing something? Carrie says: > I'm a big fan of Fellini, of course, but really like his lesser known or > appreciated works - City of Women and Casanova, in particular. Oddly enough, > there's a line in One Long Pair of Eyes that references Fellini's Casanova: > "On the black Fellini sails > Tattered rags that hang on nails..." i've watched a few fellini movies, and they just never quite "take" for me. he's too loud (or something) for me - the ones i've seen that strike me this way in particular are "la dolce vita" and "8-1/2". i've seen, but don't much recall, "roma" and "and the ship sails on" (which i always (sort of mindlessly) figured for the reference RH's "one long pair of eyes." i did love "la strada", though. i'd like to see some more of his early films. (since, you know, everyone just has to have a favourite italian director) i'll take antonioni over fellini any day - in particular, i never tire of "l'avventura" (it's definitely in my top 5.) other movies that seem to stay near the top of my list (NOT laminated) are "the conversation" and "the sweet hereafter." my memory being as is, i'll have to check my myspace profile for the rest. as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:02:08 -0500 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: Quasi-RH tidbits kevin says: > 1. Boreanas made reference to "Chinese bones" on Bones last night. (haha, caught kevin watching "bones".) xo p.s. (you too, sumi!) - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:11:04 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap The employment of 20% of Focus on the Family's employees. On one hand, it's not good to see more people losing work. On the other hand, they worked for Focus on the Family, so fuck 'em. http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/proposition-8-forces-focus-family-mas "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:20:38 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: am I missing something? On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:58 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > Carrie says: > > > I'm a big fan of Fellini, of course, but really like his lesser known or > > appreciated works - City of Women and Casanova, in particular. Oddly > enough, > > there's a line in One Long Pair of Eyes that references Fellini's > Casanova: > > "On the black Fellini sails > > Tattered rags that hang on nails..." > Oh yeah. That was one of the first RH lyrics that really floored me, that one and The Human Music (which nobody ever mentions, I wonder why?). Wonderfully observed sensual details as it hangs between romanticism & despair. > i've watched a few fellini movies, and they just never quite "take" > for me. he's too loud (or something) for me - the ones i've seen that > strike me this way in particular are "la dolce vita" and "8-1/2". > i've seen, but don't much recall, "roma" and "and the ship sails on" > (which i always (sort of mindlessly) figured for the reference RH's > "one long pair of eyes." i did love "la strada", though. Recollect an early Dylan interview where he says he'd always wanted to be Anthony Quinn in La Strada. I love the Satyricon and Juliet Of the Spirits, otherwise his movies are just exhausting > i'd like to see some more of his early films. > > (since, you know, everyone just has to have a favourite italian > director) i'll take antonioni over fellini any day - in particular, i > never tire of "l'avventura" (it's definitely in my top 5.) > > other movies that seem to stay near the top of my list (NOT laminated) > are "the conversation" I love that movie. Wife fell in love with Will Smith in Enemy Of the State and after having to sit through it half a dozen times (I mean it's OK, but I'm not that crazy about it) I told her she really needed to see The Conversation because Gene Hackman's character in EOTS was just the Conversation guy twenty years later. Which I don't actually believe, but it's an entertaining notion. She still likes the Will Smith thing more. > and "the sweet hereafter." my memory being as > is, i'll have to check my myspace profile for the rest. > > as ever, > lauren > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:28:49 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Reap That other little clip with Gingrich's tirade about the radical left wanting to force its gay secular fascism down the throats of Americans was interesting too. I love it when Newt talks about fascism... On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > The employment of 20% of Focus on the Family's employees. On one hand, it's > not good to see more people losing work. On the other hand, they worked for > Focus on the Family, so fuck 'em. > > > > http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/proposition-8-forces-focus-family-mas > > > > "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my > brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:34:10 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Quasi-RH tidbits Hey, anything those Deschanels get up to is worth paying attention to in my book. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:02 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > kevin says: > > 1. Boreanas made reference to "Chinese bones" on Bones last night. > > (haha, caught kevin watching "bones".) > > xo > > p.s. (you too, sumi!) > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:39:17 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: attn: US Dr. Pepper drinkers Free Dr. Pepper, thanks to Guns 'n' Roses. (Finally - Axl Rose actually contributes something useful to American culture: the increase in resonant belches that will result is better than his singing, anyway.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:40:02 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: am I missing something? On 11/20/08, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > > until one time i caught it starting from the middle > > it suddenly seemed silly ? > > > But, but NxNW is *supposed* to be silly -- it's a *spoof*. > Still the title makes no sense...I mean, if it's a _Hamlet_ reference, I don't see the relevance... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:43:42 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: am I missing something? On 11/20/08, kevin studyvin wrote: > > favorite movie = Fellini's Satyricon. Or maybe Lindsay Anderson's obscure > O > Lucky Man!, which is worth looking at if you can find it (woh - Netflix has > it) and has a groove that I should think would appeal to fans of the > living, > if not the dead, Hitchcock. I suppose OLM counts as "obscure" now - but for those of us of a certain age, who perhaps went to college back when student film societies were a big deal, it's anything but: it seemed to play every other week! I just watched it (for the first time, somehow...) a few months ago - also _If..._, another Lindsay Anderson/Malcolm McDowell film... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:44:26 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: am I missing something? On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:40 PM, 2fs wrote: > Still the title makes no sense...I mean, if it's a _Hamlet_ reference, I > don't see the relevance... Ah, this is where my selective illiteracy serves me well: I had no idea until just now that "North by northwest" was anything besides a direction and the title of a Hitchcock film. So I didn't have anything to be puzzled by. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:56:23 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: am I missing something? On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:43 PM, 2fs wrote: > I just watched it (for the first time, somehow...) a few months ago - also > _If..._, another Lindsay Anderson/Malcolm McDowell film... I asked Ellen a little while ago if she had seen "O Lucky Man" and she said "Oh yeah, wasn't that the one with Malcolm McDowell in an English boarding school...?" thinking of course of "If..." (Another McDowell title that might be fun to think about, is "Cat People" -- it's been like 23 years since I watched it so hard to say for sure though.) J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:21:56 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: am I missing something? On 11/20/08, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:40 PM, 2fs wrote: > > Still the title makes no sense...I mean, if it's a _Hamlet_ reference, I > > don't see the relevance... > > > Ah, this is where my selective illiteracy serves me well: I had no > idea until just now that "North by northwest" was anything besides a > direction and the title of a Hitchcock film. So I didn't have anything > to be puzzled by. Except why *that* film has *that* title. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:49:13 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: am I missing something? On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:21 PM, 2fs wrote: > Except why *that* film has *that* title. Well the way I had it figured out, South Dakota is sort of north of NYC and sort of west of NYC. I did not really trouble myself about whether Mt. Rushmore is actually NxNW from Manhattan -- I guess without looking at a map that it's probably closer to WxNW -- and let it be. J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:13:40 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: am I missing something? On 11/20/08, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:21 PM, 2fs wrote: > > Except why *that* film has *that* title. > > > Well the way I had it figured out, South Dakota is sort of north of > NYC and sort of west of NYC. I did not really trouble myself about > whether Mt. Rushmore is actually NxNW from Manhattan... Here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia entry on the film (with - hey! - sources cited): The title, *North by Northwest*, is often seen as having been taken from a line in Hamlet , a work also concerned with the slippery nature of reality.[8]Hitchcock noted this in an interview with Peter Bogdanovich in 1963. Lehman however, states that he used a working title for the film of "In a Northwesterly Direction", because the film was to start in New Yorkand end in Alaska .[9]Then the head of the story department at MGM suggested "North by Northwest", but this was still to be a working title.[10]Other titles were considered, including "The Man on Lincoln's Nose", but "North by Northwest" was kept because, according to Lehman, "We never did find a [better] title".[11]The Northwest Airlines reference in the film plays on the title. The title is not an actual compass direction, the two closest directions being northwest by north (NWbN) and north-northwest (NNW), with the latter traditionally taken as the title's intended meaning. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:23:48 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP "Belgian pop artist Guy Peellaert, whose work includes album covers for the Rolling Stones and David Bowie, has died according to a report from Agence France Press. Peellaert died Monday in Paris of heart failure. He was 74. Peellaert created dozens of album covers, including David Bowie's Diamond Dogs, with its image of a male dog with Bowie's face and the Rolling Stones' It's Only Rock 'n' Roll. The Diamond Dogs cover, controversial because it showed the dog's genitalia, is considered a collectors' item because later versions were airbrushed over. He designed posters for countless films, such as Martin Scorsese's Taxi Driver, Robert Altman's Short Cuts and Wim Wender's The Wings of Desire and Paris, Texas. Trained in fine arts in Brussels, he left for Paris in the 1960s hoping to make films, and there met a group of artists and filmmakers who were among the first to embrace Pop Art movement. Peellaert had a surrealist, pop-art style that combined comics, painting, drawing and photography. He expresses his sardonic humour and criticism of the industrial world in the 1968 psychedelic comic Pravda la survireuse, which was an inspiration to later pop artists. Other comic-style works include Flipper and The Adventures of Jodelle (Les aventures de Jodelle). The heroines of both Pravda and Les aventures were based on French pop singers. In 1972, he created the art for the rock 'n' roll chronicle Rock Dreams, with surreal images of artists such as Buddy Holly, Elvis Presley, Ray Charles, Bob Dylan, James Brown, Tina Turner and the Who. The book, created with British rock journalist Nick Cohn, included images such as Otis Redding on the dock of the bay, and the Drifters under the boardwalk. Peellaert's work has been exhibited around the world, but he had a particular following in Japan." http://www.guypeellaert.com/guy.html my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:05:52 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Quasi-RH tidbits On 21/11/2008, kevin studyvin wrote: > Hey, anything those Deschanels get up to is worth paying attention to in my > book. Especially Emily.... (sorry, it's a hormonal problem...) c* - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #783 ********************************