From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #779 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, November 17 2008 Volume 16 : Number 779 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Live album [Rex ] Re: Live album ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Live album ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: say hi [Rex ] Re: Live album ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: tracklist for Goodnight Oslo [JBJ ] An RH treat for you, fresh from the oven! But first I need your help ["Co] Re: say hi [2fs ] Re: An RH treat for you, fresh from the oven! But first I need your help [2fs ] Re: Live album [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] New on DiME: 2 shows (LA November 13, 2008 ) (Chicago November 15, 2008 ) [HwyCDRrev@aol.] Re: say hi [Rex ] Re: "Sometimes I Wish I Was a Pretty Girl" and Psycho [Rex ] Re: Gotta Let this Hen Out [Rex ] Re: reap [craigie* ] RE: Gotta Let this Hen Out ["Bachman, Michael" Subject: Re: Live album On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > "Gotta Let This Hen Out" is, contrary to my impressions the previous > couple of times I've listened to it, an excellent performance. Oh, it's amazing. Sometimes I think I overrate it because it was the first context in which I heard a few of these songs, and the live versions bury the studio takes. Then I listen to it, and I remember, yeah... it's a really great live album. Among the top 10 ever? Dunno. In my personal top 5? You bet. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:03:39 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Live album Yeah took me a little by surprise. I think the thing that jolted me in this respect awake was not knowing as I turned it on what disc I was going to be listening to. I had somehow mixed up the contents of my CD player and thought I was going to be listening to something quite else. So I had no (or fewer) preconceptions about the songs. J On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Rex wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: >> >> "Gotta Let This Hen Out" is, contrary to my impressions the previous >> couple of times I've listened to it, an excellent performance. > > Oh, it's amazing. Sometimes I think I overrate it because it was the first > context in which I heard a few of these songs, and the live versions bury > the studio takes. Then I listen to it, and I remember, yeah... it's a > really great live album. Among the top 10 ever? Dunno. In my personal top > 5? You bet. > -Rex - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:06:08 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Live album On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > I think the thing that jolted me in > this respect awake was not knowing as I turned it on what disc I was > going to be listening to.* * (Which thing I am now listening and recommend very highly to all present. I uploaded some trax from it, if you would be interested in getting a link to them let me know.) J - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:39:10 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: say hi On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, FSThomas wrote: > > there. And I'm dragging along Bayard Catron, for those list members old >>> enough to remember him...." >>> >> >> What the Hell ever happened to *him*? >> > > I hope I didn't worry anyone. Bayard is still alive and well; he hasn't > gone to prison or joined a cult; he hasn't even stopped liking Fegs. I > think he just lost the urge to spend much time on internet chit-chat. > Well, Bayard did post here regarding the Glass Flesh III project a couple weeks back, so I hope nobody was *that* worried. Although he could totally have joined a cult. Just a mellow cult. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:43:36 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Live album Yeah, what he said. On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Rex wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > > "Gotta Let This Hen Out" is, contrary to my impressions the previous > > couple of times I've listened to it, an excellent performance. > > > Oh, it's amazing. Sometimes I think I overrate it because it was the first > context in which I heard a few of these songs, and the live versions bury > the studio takes. Then I listen to it, and I remember, yeah... it's a > really great live album. Among the top 10 ever? Dunno. In my personal > top > 5? You bet. > > -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:28:06 -0800 From: JBJ Subject: Re: tracklist for Goodnight Oslo Yeah, also very surprised to find "Up To Our Necks" on here. I heard it in the movie "Rachel Getting Married", and it sounded like a one-off track written for the movie. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:17 PM, wrote: > Wow. Is anyone else stunned that "We Evolve" isn't on this list? It's > sort of at the center of "Love, Sex, Death . . . and Insects," which was > the film about the making of this record (or so I thought). So I just > assumed it'd be on the new album. Not to mention that it's one of his > best songs in ages! > > Maybe one of the titles below is concealing "We Evolve" (and "Star of > Venus"! which is also great) in a surprise wrapper? > > Jim, a lurker > > >Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:01:28 EST > >From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com > >Subject: from Veggie Friends RH video + the tracklist for Goodnight > Oslo > > > >For those who missed it.. the tracklist for Goodnight Oslo: > > > >1. What You Is > > > >2. Your Head Here > > > >3. Saturday Groovers > > > >4. I'm Falling > > > >5. Hurry for the Sky > > > >6. 16 Years > > > >7. Intricate Thing > > > >8. Up to Our Necks > > > >9. TLC > > > >10. Goodnight Oslo > > > >plus Robyn Video Source: http://tinyurl.com/62jwwo > > > >

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The only problem is, to my ears it sounds a tiny bit gated and swooshy in some parts, like some noise reduction may have been applied - but none was! No processing at all was done on either source. Source 2: Crisp sound, clear but a bit thin-sounding & trebly, and the mic overloaded and added a tiny bit ceiling of unfortunate crunch to the very loudest passages and a couple of the bassiest moments. I have ripped both shows to high-bitrate VBR mp3 (LAME --vbr-new V1) for uploading to an http server. Here's what I want from you. I want some people to download both versions and give a listen, tell me which one they prefer, and any other feedback they may have. Anyone interested in being first to hear a decent recording of tonight's show in exchange for taking the time to listen to both sources and giving me an opinion, contact me off-list. Obviously people with some mastering experience or other technically experienced listeners will be my best customers - send me your qualifications along with your request for the download URL. I don't want to publicly distribute these versions on-list yet, or reveal who gets evaluation copies, because they need work and I don't want any more inferior copies floating around than absolutely necessary. Once I have a consensus, I will master the preferred recording and make it widely available. Anybody who wants to a copy of this show WILL get one, eventually. If you haven't got a good enough ear to pick between two similar masters, patience will result in you getting the best quality copy anyway. If a better source than either of mine surfaces, I will withdraw my masters. Please let me know immediately if you hear of one. Alright! Hope to hear from a few of you off-list! Thanks, Mike - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Life In A Mikeycosm! Look, ma, I'm a video star: http://www.youtube.com/GuitaristInProgress For the love of blog, Montressor! : http://mike20.livejournal.com What is there to do in a Mikeycosm? http://www.mikeycosm.org/events.html AIM , MSN, Yahoo Messenger: HayPasadoUnAngel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:06:32 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: say hi On 11/16/08, Rex wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Christopher Gross > wrote: > > > I hope I didn't worry anyone. Bayard is still alive and well; he hasn't > > gone to prison or joined a cult; he hasn't even stopped liking Fegs. I > > think he just lost the urge to spend much time on internet chit-chat. > > > > > Well, Bayard did post here regarding the Glass Flesh III project a couple > weeks back, so I hope nobody was *that* worried. Although he could totally > have joined a cult. Just a mellow cult. A really mellow cult. Where they all get really mellow together, baby. (Oh god it's worse than I thought.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:09:19 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: An RH treat for you, fresh from the oven! But first I need your help On 11/13/08, Cor Baby, That's Really Free wrote: > > Source 1: Nice sound, present, a liiiiiiittle bit boomy, vocals a teensy > bit muddy during spoken passages because that's how the room sounded. The > only problem is, to my ears it sounds a tiny bit gated and swooshy in some > parts, like some noise reduction may have been applied - but none was! No > processing at all was done on either source. > > Source 2: Crisp sound, clear but a bit thin-sounding & trebly, and the mic > overloaded and added a tiny bit ceiling of unfortunate crunch to the very > loudest passages and a couple of the bassiest moments. It almost sounds as if someone with talent in this area could create a good-sounding recording by blending these two... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:38:20 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: "Sometimes I Wish I Was a Pretty Girl" and Psycho Is this just a really obvious connection that I somehow avoided making all these year? Playing GLTHO for some friends this afternoon and I told them it was a Hitchcock record and Janis said Oh yeah, like Psycho? Or words to that effect. And lo, I came to realize that the lyrics of Pretty Girl and that movie are fit decently to one another. J - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:40:05 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: reap Reg ("I 'ate you, Butler!") Varney, 92 James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:19:18 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Live album i believe i read that RH used his studio vocals on "Heaven" for GLTHO my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 11/16/2008 1:22:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, anacreon@gmail.com writes: "Gotta Let This Hen Out" is, contrary to my impressions the previous couple of times I've listened to it, an excellent performance. I think before, I was listening to it as if I were expecting it to be a studio album and having that not pan out, perhaps **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:32:43 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: New on DiME: 2 shows (LA November 13, 2008 ) (Chicago November 15, 2008 ) http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=223251 Robyn Hitchcock I Often Dream of Trains and Other Phenomena Tour Largo at the Coronet Los Angeles, CA November 13, 2008 Robyn Hitchcock Tim Keegan Terry Edwards Grant Lee Phillips Jon Brion David Rawlings Gillian Welch Fantastic. Main set is Robyn plaing the bulk of I Often Dream of Trains with Tim Keegan on guitar/vocals and Terry Edwards on piano/soprano saxophone/vocals. Grant Lee Phillips joined in on backing vocals for Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus and Trams Of Old London. After Robyn's solo I'm Falling, Tim, Terry, and Grant return along with Jon Brion, David Rawlings and Gillian Welch. Terrific show. Excellent sound. A real treat. Go to the new Largo. It is great. A note. The guy occasionally chuckling - and explaining things to his buddy who never seemed to get the joke or know what was going on - is not me. It's some genius sitting behind me. Sonics>Sony D7 DAT>ProTools (for level adjustment, compression, eq, and song separation)>flac Taped and mastered by JB. Please don't sell or convert to lossy format. Disc 1 (68:43) 01 Intro 02 Nocturne (Prelude) 03 Flavour of Night 04 Cathedral 05 Sounds Great When You're Dead 06 Uncorrected Personality Traits 07 I Used To Say I Love You 08 Winter Love 09 This Could Be The Day 10 Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus 11 Trams of Old London 12 My Favourite Buildings 13 That's Fantastic Mother Church 14 Heart Full Of Leaves 15 Autumn Is Your Last Chance (Robyn solo) 16 I Often Dream Of Trains (Robyn Solo) Disc 2 (40:43) Encore 01 I'm Falling (Robyn solo) 02 Television 03 Mr. Tambourine Man (Bob Dylan) 04 The Wind Cries Mary (Jimi Hendrix) (John Brion - electric guitar) 05 Candy Man (Jerry Garcia/Robert Hunter) (Gillian Welch - (Tim's) acoustic guitar/vocals) 06 While My Guitar Gently Weeps (George Harrison) (David Rawling - electric guitar. Jon Brion - piano) Except were noted, the encore consisted of Robyn Hitchcock singing lead and playing acoustic guitar, Tim Keegan on acoustic guitar/harmonica/vocals, Terry Edwards on piano/vocals, David Rawlings on acoustic guitar/vocals, Gillian Welch on vocals. Grant was on stage, but didn't do a heck of a lot. Gillian played acoustic guitar on Candy Man as it she seemed she was the only one who knew the song besides Robyn. Jon Brion played something different on every song. http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=223236 Robyn Hitchcock November 15, 2008 The Old Town School of Folk Music Chicago, IL 01) Intro/Sometimes I Wish I was a Pretty Girl (tape) 02) Nocturne (Prelude) 03) Flavor of Night 04) Cathedral 05) Sounds Great When You're Dead 06) Uncorrected Personality Traits 07) Winter Love 08) This Could Be the Day 09) I Used to Say I Love You 10) Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus 11) Trams of Old London 12) My Favourite Buildings 13) That's Fantastic, Mother Church 14) Heart Full of Leaves 15) Autumn is Your Last Chance 16) I Often Dream of Trains 17) encore break 18) What You Is 19) Raining Twilight Coast 20) Goodnight I Say Robyn Hitchcock with Tim Keegan & Terry Edwards Edirol R-09 (internal mics)> 24/96 wav> Soundforge> 16/44 wav> CD Wav Editor> FLAC Recorded & FLAC by Alien Rendel my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:13:19 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: say hi On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 1:06 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 11/16/08, Rex wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Christopher Gross >> wrote: >> >> > I hope I didn't worry anyone. Bayard is still alive and well; he hasn't >> > gone to prison or joined a cult; he hasn't even stopped liking Fegs. I >> > think he just lost the urge to spend much time on internet chit-chat. >> > >> >> >> Well, Bayard did post here regarding the Glass Flesh III project a couple >> weeks back, so I hope nobody was *that* worried. Although he could >> totally >> have joined a cult. Just a mellow cult. >> > > A really mellow cult. > > Where they all get really mellow together, baby. > > (Oh god it's worse than I thought.) It's okay. I wrote that thinking that, if Robyn didn't already have a "Mellow" song, "Mellow Cult" might be a good title for him. Now, if it were "(Baby I Joined a) Mellow Cult", that's more Julian Cope. "Mellowcult", though, would be one of those godawful and usually, perhaps ironically, Christian-y metal bands that seem to top the charts these days without my ever having heard if them. Not that they, or Jesus, care. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:18:29 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: "Sometimes I Wish I Was a Pretty Girl" and Psycho On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Is this just a really obvious connection that I somehow avoided making > all these year? Playing GLTHO for some friends this afternoon and I > told them it was a Hitchcock record and Janis said Oh yeah, like > Psycho? Or words to that effect. And lo, I came to realize that the > lyrics of Pretty Girl and that movie are fit decently to one another. > The one that's obvious to me is the connection between the Hermann (sp?) theme from "Psycho" and the intro to "The Yip Song". I've sometimes wondered if it sounds like that because Robyn got tired of being associated with Alfred and decided to impishly muddy the waters a bit further. However, "Sounds Great When You're Dead" does seem to speak to the roots of Norman Bates' oedipal probems on some level. Other possible Hitchcock/Hitchcock connections: The Birds / In Perspex, and... well, that's all I got, really. Pile on. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:21:14 -0800 (PST) From: "C. Huff" Subject: Re: Gotta Let this Hen Out I always loved that record...esp Acid Bird and Listening to the Higsons...was actually my introduction to the Soft Boys via/ Kingdom of Love and Leppo...Roger on keys doesn't even bother me b/c the Egyptians, when they were on, were really tasty....Pretty Girl is great w/ full band Very excited for show at World Cafe on Wednesday! However, I am completely bummed that they are not doing Furry Green Atom Bowl. What a wus! I thought he said that they were doing the original LP...revisionist history :-p Anyway. I'm sure it will be brilliant. I was taking AP Government in 11th grade and I used the line "I glue my arms and legs back on" as a mnemonic to remember that the 2nd Amendment was the right to bear arms (2-glue lol). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:57:46 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Gotta Let this Hen Out On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 5:21 PM, C. Huff wrote: > I always loved that record...esp Acid Bird and Listening to the > Higsons...was > actually my introduction to the Soft Boys via/ Kingdom of Love and > Leppo...Roger on keys doesn't even bother me b/c the Egyptians, when they > were > on, were really tasty....Pretty Girl is great w/ full band Strangely, I had heard the Soft Boys before I heard GLTHO, but only in the form of the six-song EP that most people will know as "Raw Cuts"... which is to say that I only knew "Face of Death". > > > Very excited for > show at World Cafe on Wednesday! However, I am completely bummed that they > are not doing Furry Green Atom Bowl. What a wus! I thought he said that > they were doing the original LP...revisionist history Spoiler Alert: In the new version of "This Could Be the Day", Greedo shoots first. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:39:05 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: reap Wasn't it Blakey who said "I 'ate you, Butler!"...? Reg *was* Butler IIRC... (and he looked like my Dad. My Uncle Bob looked Like Harry Secombe too...) c* On 16/11/2008, James Dignan wrote: > > Reg ("I 'ate you, Butler!") Varney, 92 > > James > -- > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. > -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:13:28 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Gotta Let this Hen Out Hen was the second album RH album I bought, a few months after Fegmania! was released in 1985 and a couple of months before Invisible Hitchcock. Not sure what the fourth one was, maybe BSDR or GD as I started buying everying I could find in the import CD bins, some of which were pretty expensive. I know I had to special order UM on vinyl. Michael B. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of C. Huff Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:21 PM To: anacreon@gmail.com Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Gotta Let this Hen Out I always loved that record...esp Acid Bird and Listening to the Higsons...was actually my introduction to the Soft Boys via/ Kingdom of Love and Leppo...Roger on keys doesn't even bother me b/c the Egyptians, when they were on, were really tasty....Pretty Girl is great w/ full band Very excited for show at World Cafe on Wednesday! However, I am completely bummed that they are not doing Furry Green Atom Bowl. What a wus! I thought he said that they were doing the original LP...revisionist history :-p Anyway. I'm sure it will be brilliant. I was taking AP Government in 11th grade and I used the line "I glue my arms and legs back on" as a mnemonic to remember that the 2nd Amendment was the right to bear arms (2-glue lol). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:39:28 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and having "seen behind" the Wizard Of Oz' "curtain" (if you catch my meaning), I can guaran-fuckin'-tee y'all that he is all he's been cracked up to be...and so much more I tag relentlessly. I have nearly 700 GB of music files, organized into a crazy Dewey decimal system of nested genre-related folders. (Ask Chris Gross.) > whaddya wanna bet that somebody, somewhere, has their entire collection > tagged into the "primus" genre? Well... Not my entire collection, but "Primus Related" is one of the few folders that actual bears the name of a group rather than a genre, and includes everything with Les Claypool. Other similar folders include "Stapleton/Tibet/Coil," "Tzaddik," and "Zappa." God, sometimes I wish I could just merge everything alphabetically, but I would hate myself late at night. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:05:33 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and having "seen behind" the Wizard Of Oz' "curtain" (if you catch my meaning), I can guaran-fuckin'-tee y'all that he is all he's been cracked up to be...and so much more On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, The Great Quail wrote: > I tag relentlessly. I have nearly 700 GB of music files, organized into a > crazy Dewey decimal system of nested genre-related folders. (Ask Chris > Gross.) It's true, I'm a witness. And he isn't kidding about the "Dewey decimal system" part. It's not literally the DDS, but he does have an extensive hierarchical numerical scheme. Somehow numbering the folders takes everything to a higher level. He starts off with, e.g., a folder called 1.0 Rock. It will have sub-folders called 1.1 Roots, 1.2 British Invasion, 1.3 Classic Rock, 1.4 Prog Rock, etc. Then some of those will have further sub-folders like 1.4.1 First Wave Prog, 1.4.2 Canterbury Scene, 1.4.3 Space Rock, 1.4.4 Math Rock, 1.4.5 Moose Rock, and so on. Meanwhile there are more top-level folders like 2.0 Country, 3.0 Hip-Hop, 4.0 Classical, etc., each just as detailed. It's very impressive, and, like so many impressive things, slightly frightening. > God, sometimes I wish I could just merge everything alphabetically, but I > would hate myself late at night. Me, I'm just the opposite: I can *only* keep my music files stored alphabetically. Being the indecisive fuck that I am, if I tried to organize them by genre or theme, I would be constantly changing my mind and rearranging things, and basically never leave the house. Alphabetical-by-artist is the only thing keeping me functional. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:21:16 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and having "seen behind" the Wizard Of Oz' "curtain" (if you catch my meaning), I can guaran-fuckin'-tee y'all that he is all he's been cracked up to be...and so much more On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, The Great Quail wrote: > > I tag relentlessly. I have nearly 700 GB of music files, organized into a >> crazy Dewey decimal system of nested genre-related folders. (Ask Chris >> Gross.) >> > > It's true, I'm a witness. And he isn't kidding about the "Dewey decimal > system" part. It's not literally the DDS, but he does have an extensive > hierarchical numerical scheme. Somehow numbering the folders takes > everything to a higher level. He starts off with, e.g., a folder called 1.0 > Rock. It will have sub-folders called 1.1 Roots, 1.2 British Invasion, 1.3 > Classic Rock, 1.4 Prog Rock, etc. Then some of those will have further > sub-folders like 1.4.1 First Wave Prog, 1.4.2 Canterbury Scene, 1.4.3 Space > Rock, 1.4.4 Math Rock, 1.4.5 Moose Rock, and so on. Meanwhile there are more > top-level folders like 2.0 Country, 3.0 Hip-Hop, 4.0 Classical, etc., each > just as detailed. It's very impressive, and, like so many impressive > things, slightly frightening. Indeed... > > > God, sometimes I wish I could just merge everything alphabetically, but I >> would hate myself late at night. >> > > Me, I'm just the opposite: I can *only* keep my music files stored > alphabetically. Being the indecisive fuck that I am, if I tried to organize > them by genre or theme, I would be constantly changing my mind and > rearranging things, and basically never leave the house. > Alphabetical-by-artist is the only thing keeping me functional. Plus, I'd never know where to find anything. Did I decide that that track with the country two-step beat, pedal steel guitar, crazy phased modal guitar solo, and sitar-led bridge was "country-rock" or "psychedelic"? And what if it's the only song like that by that band, which normally did sort of middle-of-the-road, mid-60s pop-rock? And what if that was only the band's first three albums, after which the singer and guitarist fired the rest of the band, converted to Christianity, and started doing jazz fusion? And then the bass player, second guitarist, keyboard guy, and drummer sued for rights to the band's name, won, and put out a bunch of new albums, which were sort of Uriah Heep-like hard rock shlock? (FWIW, I still haven't decided how to best handle songs that have one of those "feat. so-and-so" credits. Logically, that should go with the artist...but if it's an mp3, my mp3 database (still!) doesn't have multiple fields for artist, so either there's a new artist created (Mark E. Smith ft. Your Granny on Bongos), or I append "ft. Your Granny on Bongos" in square brackets after the song title (same place I put things like "alt. mix," "demo," and the like). Ideally, there'd be a field for info like "alt. mix" etc. that I could force to show up in relevant displays of the track info... PS: I use Collectorz.com's Music Collector for the collection as a whole and their MP3 Collector for my mp3 collection...and unfortunately, although they integrate seamlessly, the mp3 program is feature-deficient compared to the general program, and there are some truly bizarre quirks: if someone enters something in the "composer" field in MP3 Collector, its default display will list *that* name where you'd expect the "artist" field to be (it doesn't autofill the "artist" field, thankfully). The forums for the product claim a big revision is coming...I hope they make it more like its big brother app...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #779 ********************************