From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #769 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, November 6 2008 Volume 16 : Number 769 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: congratulations on an historic win ! [Rex ] Re: reap [Rex ] Re: congratulations on an historic win ! [2fs ] Re: congratulations on an historic win ! [2fs ] Re: McCain Canceled (NR) [Rex ] Re: McCain Canceled (NR) ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: McCain Canceled (NR) ["kevin studyvin" ] Planet Karen strikes again. ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: McCain Canceled (NR) [Rex ] Re: McCain Canceled (NR) [Steve Schiavo ] Re: McCain Canceled (NR) [2fs ] so, Eddie ... ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] Re: McCain Canceled (NR) [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: McCain Canceled (NR) [Tom Clark ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #768 [James Dignan ] Re: congratulations on an historic win ! [James Dignan ] RE: McCain Canceled (NR) ["Bachman, Michael" ] I must now apologize... [Steve Schiavo ] Re: I must now apologize... [Rex ] RE: so, Eddie ... ["Nectar At Any Cost!" ] RE: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina ["Bachman, Michael"] Re: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina ["Stewart Russell" <] RE: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina ["Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: congratulations on an historic win ! On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM, 2fs wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Stewart Russell wrote: > > > Dress him as a moose, then send Sarah Palin in a plane with a shotgun > toward > him and tell her she's in Alaska. > You know, I'm considering calling a moratorium on Palin jokes. Seems like she's wasted enough of our time as a nation already, and I'm quite ready to forget she ever existed. Still... moose. Hee! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:45:55 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: reap On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Christopher Gross wrote: > > Novelist, TV producer, and physician Michael Crichton, 46. >> > > Sorry, I was handling a snake when I typed that. So is that what the kids are calling it these days? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:56:00 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: congratulations on an historic win ! On 11/5/08, Rex wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM, 2fs wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Stewart Russell >> wrote: >> >> >> Dress him as a moose, then send Sarah Palin in a plane with a shotgun >> toward >> him and tell her she's in Alaska. >> > > You know, I'm considering calling a moratorium on Palin jokes. Seems like > she's wasted enough of our time as a nation already, and I'm quite ready to > forget she ever existed. > Who? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:57:41 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: congratulations on an historic win ! On 11/5/08, Rex wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:04 AM, 2fs wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Stewart Russell >> wrote: >> >> >> Dress him as a moose, then send Sarah Palin in a plane with a shotgun >> toward >> him and tell her she's in Alaska. >> > > You know, I'm considering calling a moratorium on Palin jokes. Seems like > she's wasted enough of our time as a nation already, and I'm quite ready to > forget she ever existed. > Who? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:59:23 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Melissa Higuchi wrote: > As someone whose office helped win the marriage case and worked on No on > Prop 8 I can't tell you how upsetting this is. So many people I know > worked so hard for this and so many people i know got married. We always > knew it would be close as there are so many parts of the state where we > don't have support. I'm angry that the lies the opposition was using, > about teaching children gay marriage in school Omigod, that "teaching your kids" ad was so mortifying... "Guess what they taught us in school, Mommy!" Sooo cheesy, and yet so scary. I saw it three or four times and got angrier each time... it was so inconceivable that anyone could live with themself after having any part in its production, but fergodsake, having a *kid* act in it? There's gotta be a special circle in hell for whoever engineered that. I'm having a hard time with this, too. I'm used to having the term "Californian" come pretty close to summing up my political outlook, but this just doesn't tally. Awful. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:15:25 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Rex wrote: > I'm having a hard time with this, too. I'm used to having the term > "Californian" come pretty close to summing up my political outlook, but this > just doesn't tally. Awful. Well now, remember Orange County and Inland Empire are part of the state. For that matter large swaths of the Central Valley (like Modesto, where I spent much of my youth) are... not what I think you are meaning when you describe your political outlook as Californian. J - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:35:42 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) > ...not what I think you are meaning when you describe your political > outlook as Californian. > Ya mean like, the home of noted Nazi sympathizers Walt Disney and Wm Randolph Hearst? Not to mention my idol, prominent California Republican Mike Love... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:42:14 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Planet Karen strikes again. For those who share my disdain for all things Carpenter: http://planetkaren.girl-wonder.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:55:30 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Rex wrote: > > I'm having a hard time with this, too. I'm used to having the term > > "Californian" come pretty close to summing up my political outlook, but > this > > just doesn't tally. Awful. > > Well now, remember Orange County and Inland Empire are part of the > state. For that matter large swaths of the Central Valley (like > Modesto, where I spent much of my youth) are... not what I think you > are meaning when you describe your political outlook as Californian. > Well, no. I was speaking rather generally-- as one does after spending so much time looking at a map where states are boiled down not so much to a singular philosophy as a primary color. I guess the other salient factor is that anyone to whom I've ever actually described myself as "politically Californian" already knew which particular area of the state I call home. Generally, to me, it's just an excuse for my liberalism, although there's a bit of a chicken/egg question attached: do I live where I live because of my politics, or vice versa? Sadly, the world will never care. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:01:51 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) On Nov 5, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Sumiko Keay wrote: > (On MSNBC last night - one of the pundits was saying that Texas could > be a battleground state next time around - amazing.) Demographics, but 4 years would be mighty fast. __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:27:32 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) On 11/5/08, Rex wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Melissa Higuchi wrote: > > > As someone whose office helped win the marriage case and worked on No on > > Prop 8 I can't tell you how upsetting this is. So many people I know > > worked so hard for this and so many people i know got married. We always > > knew it would be close as there are so many parts of the state where we > > don't have support. I'm angry that the lies the opposition was using, > > about teaching children gay marriage in school > > > > Omigod, that "teaching your kids" ad was so mortifying... "Guess what they > taught us in school, Mommy!" Sooo cheesy, and yet so scary. I saw it > three > or four times and got angrier each time... it was so inconceivable that > anyone could live with themself after having any part in its production, > but > fergodsake, having a *kid* act in it? There's gotta be a special circle in > hell for whoever engineered that. As a non-Californian (and non- obsessive-YouTube-trawler) I haven't seen that ad...but if it involves producing an ad trying to scare the populace into believing that innocent kindergartners would have to learn about anal sex, while training an innocent kindergartner to mouth lines about anal sex, well...it is the Republican party after all. I'm sure they made certain it was a Republican child. Republicans are morally superior, you know, and just as they can be censors and be exposed to all that smut without becoming corrupted, even though all that smut would surely corrupt the rest of us, they can teach kindergartners to talk about anal sex while being certain that teaching non-Republican kindergartners about anal sex would surely destroy those non-Rep's souls. As if gay marriage rights compels kindergartners to be taught about anal sex in the first place. I mean, most straight married people I know do not discourse about the particularities of their sexual intimacies with young children...even though - heavens! - I'm pretty sure *marriage* is often mentioned to such very young children. Good lord, can you imagine: there are people who take innocent two-year-olds to friends' weddings - weddings which are tantamount to a celebration of lewdness, don't you know. Might as well have the bride and groom go at it right in front of the celebrant and everybody. (I'm pretty sure there's probably some hippies somewhere who did exactly that...) PS: I'm also pretty sure this post contains the phrase "anal sex" more than any other fegpost - even Eddie's ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:32:29 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: so, Eddie ... you say so in jest, of course. but as it happens, i'd decided that i *wouldn't* do so this time around. since you ask, however... i wish i could say that there were. but, there just isn't. is a decent (if very abbreviated) snapshot of what we got. is a very highly recommended snapshot of what we needed. i mean, i won't deny thinking it's cool that americans elected a black president. but beyond that, i feel none of the emotions you mention. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:55:07 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) On Nov 5, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Rex wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Jeremy Osner > wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Rex >> wrote: >>> I'm having a hard time with this, too. I'm used to having the term >>> "Californian" come pretty close to summing up my political >>> outlook, but >> this >>> just doesn't tally. Awful. >> >> Well now, remember Orange County and Inland Empire are part of the >> state. For that matter large swaths of the Central Valley (like >> Modesto, where I spent much of my youth) are... not what I think you >> are meaning when you describe your political outlook as Californian. >> > > Well, no. I was speaking rather generally-- as one does after > spending so > much time looking at a map where states are boiled down not so much > to a > singular philosophy as a primary color. > > I guess the other salient factor is that anyone to whom I've ever > actually > described myself as "politically Californian" already knew which > particular > area of the state I call home. Generally, to me, it's just an > excuse for my > liberalism, although there's a bit of a chicken/egg question > attached: do I > live where I live because of my politics, or vice versa? Sadly, > the world > will never care. I grew up in LA county where my (California native) grandfather claimed that "wheat germ was the key to longevity" and my (California native) mother switched us to whole wheat bread "for our health" in 1961. I always joked about the "Left Coast" and felt proud to say I was a Californian when meeting folks abroad. And yeah, it can be a bit cozy when the county you live in swings almost as far to the left as you do (People's Republic of Berkeley aside). But I always take in to account the Central Valley, Orange County and Northeastern California when it comes to elections. Maybe it's because I have family all over the state but I know what those folks up in MacArthur are saying when they sit around their volunteer firefighter meetings. And it ain't "glad to hear you're finally gettin' married Bob and Ted." To many - non native or even new to the state - California is the land of "fruits and nuts." But the loggers, fishermen, cops, ranchers, contractors, etc., are a huge part of what this state is and they don't tend to take well to them liberal notions. My complaint in all this, and one I am seriously thinking of taking to Sacramento to find a way to get it an issue in the next election, is the huge amount of out-of-state money that went to an in-state campaign. I too was barraged with mailers and phone calls to ask me to vote Yes on 8. And how much of the funding for that misinformation came from the religious right in Utah and Oklahoma? The economy of California is often cited for how it would compare to other countries if California was an independent nation. The statistic quoted varies between 7th and 10th. I know to many folks it's "as goes California, so goes the rest of the country" but the funds that poured into our in-state proposition from other states sickened me. My 2 cents, - - c - --------------------------------------------------------------- "Loyalty to your country always. Loyalty to your government when it deserves it" Mark Twain - ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:04:44 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) On Nov 5, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Rex wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Melissa Higuchi > wrote: > >> As someone whose office helped win the marriage case and worked on >> No on >> Prop 8 I can't tell you how upsetting this is. So many people I know >> worked so hard for this and so many people i know got married. We >> always >> knew it would be close as there are so many parts of the state >> where we >> don't have support. I'm angry that the lies the opposition was using, >> about teaching children gay marriage in school > > Omigod, that "teaching your kids" ad was so mortifying... "Guess > what they > taught us in school, Mommy!" Sooo cheesy, and yet so scary. I saw > it three > or four times and got angrier each time... it was so inconceivable > that > anyone could live with themself after having any part in its > production, but > fergodsake, having a *kid* act in it? There's gotta be a special > circle in > hell for whoever engineered that. > What's sad is that the kids of these morons are the ones who are getting hurt. Most kids would love to be able to marry their best friend - male or female. Imagine being able to live in the same house with your best buddy and watch TV, go shopping, have sleepovers, etc...! Now along comes your homophobe mom or dad who can't get the horrific, yet somewhat tantalizing thought of same-sex sodomy out of their head and they tell you that two buddies living together makes god angry. But they can't say why. A few weeks ago my daughter asked if two women could get married - totally out of the blue. We said "they can now", and she just said "ok" and walked away. Was she thinking of hot girl-on-girl action when she asked that question? I can confidently say no. But every dipshit holding a yellow "Yes on 8" sign last week sure was. (For the record, I was too. But for different reasons. Nudge nudge, say no more) - -tc, new ACLU member as of today ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:46:38 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #768 > > On a technical level, you're correct. > > > > But I do think the McCain/Palin campaign stooped pretty low rhetorically. I > > mean, c'mon: the whole terrorist/Muslim/(implied Secret Negro Revolution*) > > thing was so bad even Karl Rove said it was slimy. > > > > * dibs on Secret Negro Revolution as band name... > > > >I got a lot of chuckles out of the "Socialist!!' stuff, when anyone with an >awareness of history would recognize him as just a regular old-fashioned >(i.e. pre-Nixon) Democrat... Socialism. Hmmm, let's see...that's government of the people, for the people, and by the people, right? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:55:45 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: Re: congratulations on an historic win ! >2008/11/5 great white shark : > > Its great news, as an Australian, its weird that I feel better about this > > presidential win than I did when we tossed out our own right wing Prime > > minister last year. > >Can fegs please help with the dribbling arsehole that we Canadians are >saddled with? I have this horrible feeling we're going to be stuck with a glib U-turner for the neext three years. Seems to have conned a large part of the country into thinking that,despite the fact that NZ's economy has been on the up and up until Wall Street sneezed a month or so back, its current recession (which is very mold compared to a lot of countries) is an indication that the current government is financially incompetent. Trpouble is, last time his part was in power they managed to drive the country into the ground (and quite some ddistance to the right). >I think this one would be perfect for (yet another) Scott McCaughey side >project: The Various Artists. Sorry, Jeff - it's already been used. I'd find some info on them for you, but ahve you ever tried googling "various artists"? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:39:01 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: so, Eddie ... Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > i mean, i won't deny thinking it's cool that americans elected a black > president. but beyond that, i feel none of the emotions you mention. So you might like today's pictures for sad children . Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:54:25 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: McCain Canceled (NR) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of kevin studyvin Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:36 PM To: Jeremy Osner Cc: Rex; Melissa Higuchi; fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) >> ...not what I think you are meaning when you describe your political >> outlook as Californian. >> >Ya mean like, the home of noted Nazi sympathizers Walt Disney and Wm Randolph Hearst? >Not to mention my idol, prominent California Republican Mike Love... Kevin Johnson, the new mayor elect of Sacramento was pretty good at running the offense and hitting the open man with a bullet pass, or nailing down a jump shot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Johnson Another former NBA point guard, ex-Piston great Dave Bing, could be elected mayor of Detroit next year. Is this the beginning of a trend? Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:58:19 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: so, Eddie ... > when it's us nice feg-folk doing the parading.> > > you say so in jest, of course. but as it happens, i'd decided that i > *wouldn't* do so this time around. since you ask, however... Absolutely *not* in jest! Jeez, Eddie. I meant exactly what I said. Despite the fact that you disagree with so many of us about the relative virtues of the two major parties I never got the impression that you get some sort of vindictive thrill from bursting bubbles. I appreciate your answer to my question. I truly was curious. +brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:52:37 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: I must now apologize... ...to Tracy Flick. Josh Marshall - Part of me thinks I shouldn't be watching Fox News reporter and sometimes fabulist Carl Cameron dishing the McCain campaign's dirt on Sarah Palin. But well, when Mothra goes up against Godzilla, how can you not watch? - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:32:27 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: I must now apologize... On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > ...to Tracy Flick. > > "Regarding the last report, Shep Smith asks the obvious question: "How could they end up with a running mate who doesn't know that Africa is a continent?" Cameron explains that the vetting process 'was truncated.'." WIN!!!!11!! My new excuse for everything I screw up: the process was truncated! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:28:51 -0800 From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" Subject: RE: so, Eddie ... ah, my apologies. i had misunderstood what you'd meant by "enjoys". *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/6/2008 at 6:58 AM bhuddell@cox.net declared: > when it's us nice feg-folk doing the parading.> > > you say so in jest, of course. but as it happens, i'd decided that i > *wouldn't* do so this time around. since you ask, however... Absolutely *not* in jest! Jeez, Eddie. I meant exactly what I said. Despite the fact that you disagree with so many of us about the relative virtues of the two major parties I never got the impression that you get some sort of vindictive thrill from bursting bubbles. I appreciate your answer to my question. I truly was curious. +brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:10:43 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Steve Schiavo Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:02 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) On Nov 5, 2008, at 9:43 AM, Sumiko Keay wrote: >> (On MSNBC last night - one of the pundits was saying that Texas could >> be a battleground state next time around - amazing.) >Demographics, but 4 years would be mighty fast. Arizona and Montana for sure before Texas. The votes are now finally tabulated in North Carolina and Obama did end up winning in the land of Mitch Easter, giving him a nice total of 364 Electoral votes and seven Bush 2004 states. Of the Bush states Obama targeted heavily he only missed by a whisker in Missouri. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:36:17 -0500 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina 2008/11/6 Bachman, Michael : > > Of the Bush states Obama targeted heavily he only missed by a whisker in Missouri. Hey, they haven't called Missouri yet. It's all red except for KC, St Joe, Columbia and St Louis. Stewart - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:44:35 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Russell Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:36 PM To: Pigworkers Local 47 Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina 2008/11/6 Bachman, Michael : >> >> Of the Bush states Obama targeted heavily he only missed by a whisker in Missouri. >Hey, they haven't called Missouri yet. It's all red except for KC, St Joe, Columbia and St Louis. Is Obama ahead or trailing in Missouri? The Dems picked up a US Senate seat in Oregon today. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:00:44 -0600 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina Obama is trailing in Missouri. Sumi On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Bachman, Michael wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Russell > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:36 PM > To: Pigworkers Local 47 > Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina > > 2008/11/6 Bachman, Michael : >>> >>> Of the Bush states Obama targeted heavily he only missed by a whisker in Missouri. > >>Hey, they haven't called Missouri yet. It's all red except for KC, St Joe, Columbia and St Louis. > > Is Obama ahead or trailing in Missouri? > > The Dems picked up a US Senate seat in Oregon today. > > Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:08:14 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina On 11/6/08, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of Stewart Russell > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 3:36 PM > To: Pigworkers Local 47 > Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) - Obama wins North Carolina > > 2008/11/6 Bachman, Michael : > >> > > >> Of the Bush states Obama targeted heavily he only missed by a whisker in > Missouri. I was impressed by how close Obama got in Arizona...considering it's McCain's home state and all... > > > Is Obama ahead or trailing in Missouri? Last I looked he was a bit behind. The Dems picked up a US Senate seat in Oregon today. And the Minnesota senate seat's headed for a recount...what was it, like 600 votes out of 3 million? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:08:40 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) - Minnesota On Nov 6, 2008, at 1:08 PM, 2fs wrote: > > > And the Minnesota senate seat's headed for a recount...what was it, > like 600 > votes out of 3 million? > I've been, as usual, glued to talk radio and just checked his (Franken's site). So far they are saying it's about a 351 vote difference. And by law in Minnesota a recount is required if it's . 05% difference and this is something like .015%. Meanwhile his counterpart, Coleman, is publicly saying stepping out of the recount is the "gracious" thing for Franken to do. Huh? Franken's not buying it. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:34:26 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: McCain Canceled (NR) - Minnesota Hang in there! Franken can totally pull this out. Here in Washington we had long recount in the governor's race in 2004. Initially the republican Dino Rossi was up by 261 votes, then after the machine recount the Rossi was up just 42 votes, and then after a manual recount (which the Democrats had to post a $700k bond to pay for) the democrat Christine Gregoire won with a 129 vote margin! She was just reelected in a rematch against Rossi and leads by more than 150,000 votes in the latest count. - -- "IGNORE ME!!!!!!!" - The Grand Galactic Inquisitor ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #769 ********************************