From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #753 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 15 2008 Volume 16 : Number 753 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fill in the blanks! My [...] is "Eb", and my "Johnson" [..] fifteen times per [...] ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: potential "feg" spotting? [Marc Alberts ] Re: potential "feg" spotting? [2fs ] Bat REAP [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Rex Bearded Broome ["Bri N" ] Lennon Lightbulb Head ["Bri N" ] headline of the day [Christopher Gross ] RE: headline of the day ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Anti-Norton Anti-Virus for Windows XP ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Anti-Norton Anti-Virus for Windows XP ["Jason Brown" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:22:55 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Fill in the blanks! My [...] is "Eb", and my "Johnson" [..] fifteen times per [...] On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:47 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:27 PM, (0% rh) wrote: >> as far as i know, it didn't start being abused >> this way until a few years back. > > Hmmm - my sense is that this misusage is considerably older. Well, depends on how "a few" was intended -- but the word was certainly being used this way, and people were griping about it, when I was a young lad in the mid-1970's. > The irony is that that usage has led to clarifications along the lines of > "she was so happy she pissed her pants, literally literally" - that is, she > had to wash them, not just that she was uproariously happy... > Wait, I thought "literally literally" was just an extra-strong intensifier. Like "very very". Totally. Dude. J - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:29:12 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Fill in the blanks! My [...] is "Eb", and my "Johnson" [..] fifteen times per [...] On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:47 PM, 2fs wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:27 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > > > Nectar At Any Cost! says: > > > > > and your/you're. but, please man, do teach them the proper usage of > the > > > word "literally"! please, man! > > > > i would imagine straightening out the misuse of "literally" might be > > difficult. i don't quite understand the way in which it became > > misused -- it seems like a word that's put in for emphasis when it > > shouldn't be. but, as far as i know, it didn't start being abused > > this way until a few years back. > I had this exchange with a friend last night: Friend: Look, cut it out. I've heard you say stuff like that before and it's literal bullshit. Me: Literal bullshit? Friend: Yes. Me: So you claim it is actual shit that came out of a bull? Friend: No, I mean you say stuff like that when you take things too literally, and it's bullshit. Me: Oh. (Pause). So, "literal" bullshit? (And everyone seemed to understand that and move on.) Shortly thereafter, the stepdaughter threw herself onto me, and the following, unrelated exchange literally occurred. Step: SQUID ATTACK! Me: OW! Wait, did you just say "Squid Attack"? Step: Yes. Me: Why squid, particularly? Step: Well, it could be either a squid or a penguin. Me: Which would be worse? Step: Well, they're both pretty brutal. Me: They both have beaks, I guess. Step: Yeah, and they would both peck at you. But the penguin is scared of the sight of blood, and as soon as you started bleeding it would run away in terror. So I recommend the penguin. Me: Okay, then. Step: PENGUIN ATTACK! Now I'm going to go see Wire, thank you. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:38:13 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: re: potential "feg" spotting? A while back, I wrote: Does anyone know if China Miiville is a Robyn fan? If nothing else, they seem to share common sources/loves in fantastic fiction, etc. - but I just ran into a reference to a "moonlight elemental" in Miiville's world, described as being able to "change shape continuously" and as "very powerful and so infrequently seen as to be legendary." The name of this being? A "fegkarion"... - ---- Well, several hundred pages further into _Iron Council_ is the following, very Robynesque passage (it's on page 424 of the paperback): - ---- There were three people in the boxcar when its Torque sarcoma began. The train was juddering through a high land of alpestrine plants and stoneforms jawing the air. One morning while snow as fine as dust eddied and the hammerers had to warm their fingers with each strike, the door of the carriage would not open. The Councillors within could only shout through cracks in the wood. They took an axe to it but it rebounded without scuffing paint or wood, and the Councillors knew that this was the cacotopic stain's last fingers. But by then the voices of those within had dulled with lassitude, a surrendering up. Through the night they became more and more languid. By the next day the car was changing its shape, was bulbous and distending, the wood straining, and the people within made contented cetacean sounds. The walls grew translucent and shapes could be seen, eddying as if in water. The planks and nails and wood-fibre opalesced then went transparent as the boxcar sagged, fat over the wheels, and the councillors inside grew more placid, moved oozily within air become thick. The debris from the store-cupboards lost their shapes and spun as impurities. The carriage became a vast membranous cell, three nuclei still vaguely shaped like men and women afloat in cytoplasm. They watched and waved stubby arm-flagella at their comrades. Some Councillors wanted to decouple the grotesquerie, let it roll away and thrive or denature according to its new biology, but others said _they're our sisters in there_ and would not let them. The long train continued with the corpulent amoebic thing rippling with the movement of passage, its innard inhabitants smiling. "What in Jabber's name is it?" Cutter asked Qurabin. "Not in Jabber's name anything. I don't know...." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:46:16 -0400 From: Marc Alberts Subject: Re: potential "feg" spotting? 2fs wrote: > A while back, I wrote: > > Does anyone know if China Miiville is a Robyn fan? If nothing else, they > seem to share common sources/loves in fantastic fiction, etc. - but I just > ran into a reference to a "moonlight elemental" in Miiville's world, > described as being able to "change shape continuously" and as "very powerful > and so infrequently seen as to be legendary." The name of this being? A > "fegkarion"... > > ---- > > Well, several hundred pages further into _Iron Council_ is the following, > very Robynesque passage (it's on page 424 of the paperback): > > > ---- > > There were three people in the boxcar when its Torque sarcoma began. The > train was juddering through a high land of alpestrine plants and stoneforms > jawing the air. One morning while snow as fine as dust eddied and the > hammerers had to warm their fingers with each strike, the door of the > carriage would not open. The Councillors within could only shout through > cracks in the wood. > > They took an axe to it but it rebounded without scuffing paint or wood, and > the Councillors knew that this was the cacotopic stain's last fingers. But > by then the voices of those within had dulled with lassitude, a surrendering > up. > > Through the night they became more and more languid. By the next day the car > was changing its shape, was bulbous and distending, the wood straining, and > the people within made contented cetacean sounds. The walls grew translucent > and shapes could be seen, eddying as if in water. The planks and nails and > wood-fibre opalesced then went transparent as the boxcar sagged, fat over > the wheels, and the councillors inside grew more placid, moved oozily within > air become thick. The debris from the store-cupboards lost their shapes and > spun as impurities. > > The carriage became a vast membranous cell, three nuclei still vaguely > shaped like men and women afloat in cytoplasm. They watched and waved stubby > arm-flagella at their comrades. Some Councillors wanted to decouple the > grotesquerie, let it roll away and thrive or denature according to its new > biology, but others said _they're our sisters in there_ and would not let > them. The long train continued with the corpulent amoebic thing rippling > with the movement of passage, its innard inhabitants smiling. > > "What in Jabber's name is it?" Cutter asked Qurabin. > > "Not in Jabber's name anything. I don't know...." Hmmmm.... Not definitive. If only she had written "What in Jabber's name is it?" Cutter asked Qurabin, pronounced "Qurabin" or "Brad." Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:54:44 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: potential "feg" spotting? On 10/14/08, Marc Alberts wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > >> A while back, I wrote: >> >> Does anyone know if China Miiville is a Robyn fan? >> >> >> Well, several hundred pages further into _Iron Council_ is the following, >> very Robynesque passage (it's on page 424 of the paperback): >> >> >> --- >> >> "What in Jabber's name is it?" Cutter asked Qurabin. >> >> "Not in Jabber's name anything. I don't know...." >> > > Hmmmm.... Not definitive. If only she had written "What in Jabber's name > is it?" Cutter asked Qurabin, pronounced "Qurabin" or "Brad." FWIW, unlike China Kantner, this "China" is male. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:31:35 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Bat REAP Neal Hefti, Composer of 'Batman' Theme, Dies By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: October 15, 2008 Filed at 12:04 a.m. ET LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Neal Hefti, a Big Band trumpeter, arranger and composer of themes for the movie ''The Odd Couple'' and the ''Batman'' television series, has died. He was 85. Hefti died Saturday at his home, said his son Paul Hefti. Neal Hefti's notable achievements include the iconic theme of the 1960s superhero series ''Batman,'' which became a Top 40 hit and won a Grammy Award in 1966 for best instrumental theme. He also composed music for ''The Odd Couple,'' ''Barefoot in the Park'' and ''Harlow,'' which featured his classic track ''Girl Talk.'' His son said the ''Batman'' theme was Neal Hefti's most difficult piece, taking him at least one month to compose the driving bass and explosive trumpet bursts. ''He threw away more music paper on this thing than any other song,'' Paul Hefti told The Associated Press. ''It got down to the blues with a funny guitar hook, the lowest common denominator and a fun groove.'' Neal Hefti was born Oct. 29, 1922, in Hastings, Neb., and played trumpet with local bands as a teenager to earn money. As an adult, he worked with and arranged music for the greats of the Big Band era, including Count Basie, Woody Herman, Charlie Spivak and Harry James. ''He was one of the really great arrangers and composers of all time,'' radio and television personality Gary Owens, a longtime friend, told the Los Angeles Times. my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:28:18 -0700 From: "Bri N" Subject: Rex Bearded Broome I had a dream last night that I saw Rex at a party. He had a beard and gray hair. In fact it didn't look like Rex at all! (Well I haven't seen rex in 4+ years). Then he starting singing Do Policemen Sing on his acoustic guitar. Nicely done Rex! - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:21:14 -0700 From: "Bri N" Subject: Lennon Lightbulb Head Of course, Billy Joel's "Surprises" from The Nylon Curtain. - ----------------- "Gone Lennon" Robyn Hitchcock - Somewhere apart Nirvana - About a girl ELO - Can't get it out of my head Chris Knox - Ice breaker My Morning Jacket - Wordless Chorus Kelley Stoltz - The Sun Comes Through Pop Levi - From the day that you were born The Shortwave Set - House of lies Any thoughts? - - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand - ------------------------- And of course, that's Robyn playing bass on THE MAN WITH THE LIGHTBULB HEAD, not Andy. - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: headline of the day On CNN: "Cheney's abnormal heart rhythm returns." My first thought was, "It started beating again?" http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/15/cheney.hospital/index.html - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:26:20 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: headline of the day - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Gross Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:49 PM To: Squidmaniax! Subject: headline of the day On CNN: "Cheney's abnormal heart rhythm returns." My first thought was, "It started beating again?" http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/15/cheney.hospital/index.html 97 more days and he can retire to obscurity in Wyoming. Michael B. NP Tom Waits - Get Behind The Mule ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:00:33 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Anti-Norton Anti-Virus for Windows XP Hi Fegs, Does anyone have suggestions for anti-virus software for a Windows XP machine that is NOT Norton? You know, I'm really not that difficult to keep as a customer. It's not like I have all that many principles. But, bless Symantec's cold black heart: they've managed to cross one of the few lines I have by having an automatic renewal policy. (I did manage to dig around and find an "opt-out" form, and it has the nerve to look like this: https://lcwer.symantec.com/OngoingProtectionCancel/cancel.aspx (I mean, really: bite me.)) At any rate, a few sites seem to like AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition. Does anyone use that? Do you need firewall software to go with it? And if so, please name names. Here are some reviews of AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition. CNET - http://www.download.com/3101-2023_4-0.html?tag=mncol Pricelessware - http://pricelessware.org/thelist/sec.htm#Top (looks out of date, but I've been happy with anything I've used that this site has recommended.) Gizmo's - http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-anti-virus-software.htm Also, I'm fine with paying this kind of software (i.e. doesn't have to be free), just not in the way Norton makes me pay. Any help would be appreciated. as ever, Lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:56:51 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Anti-Norton Anti-Virus for Windows XP Norman is good and is not made by Symantec. I use it and have had no viral infestations FWIW. www.Norman.com/2008 J On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:00 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > Hi Fegs, > > Does anyone have suggestions for anti-virus software for a Windows XP > machine that is NOT Norton? > > You know, I'm really not that difficult to keep as a customer. It's > not like I have all that many principles. But, bless Symantec's cold > black heart: they've managed to cross one of the few lines I have by > having an automatic renewal policy. (I did manage to dig around and > find an "opt-out" form, and it has the nerve to look like this: > https://lcwer.symantec.com/OngoingProtectionCancel/cancel.aspx (I > mean, really: bite me.)) > > At any rate, a few sites seem to like AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition. > Does anyone use that? Do you need firewall software to go with it? > And if so, please name names. > > Here are some reviews of AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition. > CNET - http://www.download.com/3101-2023_4-0.html?tag=mncol > Pricelessware - http://pricelessware.org/thelist/sec.htm#Top (looks > out of date, but I've been happy with anything I've used that this > site has recommended.) > Gizmo's - http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-anti-virus-software.htm > > Also, I'm fine with paying this kind of software (i.e. doesn't have to > be free), just not in the way Norton makes me pay. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > as ever, > Lauren > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha > - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:12:11 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Funk Hey you guys, there's this blogger named Apostropher -- every so often he uploads a mix tape and they are without exception worthwhile. The latest one just came out today, is here: http://www.apostropher.com/blog/archives/004279.html -- and volumes 1 - - 7 archived here: http://www.apostropher.com/blog/archives/004218.html J - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:01:28 -0700 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: Anti-Norton Anti-Virus for Windows XP I know that a large software company based in Redmond, Washington uses CA's eTrust AntiVirus on the corporate intranet. It works great and i think the consumer version wouldnt be a bad choice. http://shop.ca.com/virus/antivirus.aspx - -- "IGNORE ME!!!!!!!" - The Grand Galactic Inquisitor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:33:47 -0400 From: Marc Alberts Subject: Re: Anti-Norton Anti-Virus for Windows XP Jason Brown wrote: > I know that a large software company based in Redmond, Washington uses > CA's eTrust AntiVirus on the corporate intranet. It works great and i > think the consumer version wouldnt be a bad choice. > http://shop.ca.com/virus/antivirus.aspx > As someone who works for said large software company and is forced to use eTrust, I wouldn't recommend it. It is very expensive in terms of CPU cycles, practically grinding your computer to a halt for 3-4 hours a day. If I weren't forced to use it, I would probably use Norton and just let them do the auto renewals. AVG is probably pretty good. Kim Komando recommends it, anyway, and they have a pretty wide list of reviews and awards on their website that you can investigate: http://free.avg.com/awards-references. I would probably recommend Microsoft OneCare as an option (I use it for a machine or two) as it is low overhead and seems to recognize threats well, but independent testing says it will miss a few more threats than others. Probably need to wait for version 2.0 to come out. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:29:48 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Rex Bearded Broome On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Bri N wrote: > I had a dream last night that I saw Rex at a party. He had a beard and gray > hair. In fact it didn't look like Rex at all! (Well I haven't seen rex in 4+ > years). Then he starting singing Do Policemen Sing on his acoustic guitar. > Nicely done Rex! > Actually, that was Howe Gelb. He's been impersonating me in dreams for years now. Both of us do perform "Do Policemen Sing", but we're both actually using the arrangement that Neil Young first performed in a dream way back in '88 shared by Howe and myself. Robyn was there as well, although I don't know if it was the "real" Robyn or some kind of shared, hallucinated Robyn-simulacra based on the shared impressions of those experiencing the dream (and I happen to know some of you were among that number, although I had yet to meet you). Doesn't matter. Anyway, the dream Robyn (or was it the real Robyn, or was it the other guys whose name I can't remember) turned to us halfway through the performance and said, "Do you know that this is exactly how Elvis appeared to John Cale and myself back in the seventies? That's why I mentioned Welsh people in this song. I think you both know what you must do". Ever since then, I've had occasional dreams that I'm performing in PJ Harvey's backing band alongside Margaret Fiedler. Talked to her last night at the Wire show, and she did indeed recognize me as someone who had been Howe during a certain percentage of the time during which she'd known him, albeit less than half the time. Then Colin Newman told me that she'd said the same thing to him about *JJ* Cale with regards to Wire's version of "After Midnight", and that's when I knew that I was dead. But it didn't last. - -Howe ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #753 ********************************