From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #746 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 10 2008 Volume 16 : Number 746 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: florida does it again ["C. Huff" ] Re: Another econo-politicalish note [Sebastian Hagedorn ] RE: no politics yes Whedon ["C. Huff" ] RE: Crimson... ["C. Huff" ] Re: Perspex Island, politics, and the wife ["C. Huff" ] Re: Master Debaters [Eleanore Adams ] Re: Perspex Island, politics, and the wife [Rex ] Re: Perspex Island, politics, and the wife [Tom Clark ] Re: Donna Brazile! Donna Brazile! [Steve Schiavo ] Re: florida does it again [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Master Debaters [craigie* ] Re: no politics yes Whedon ["(0% rh)" ] Re: perhaps this is being discussed in another thread even as we speak... [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Miles on BSDR (I know - I keep changing thread names...) ["(0% rh)" <] Re: Perspex Island, politics, and the wife [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] song for natalie ["(0% rh)" ] Re: Universal health care [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Feels Like 1974 ["Jeremy Osner" ] Okay...Jazz Butcher? ["edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:30:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "C. Huff" Subject: Re: florida does it again <> If you mean Bush Sr, then I would agree that he had more experience than Obama - after all, he was VP for 8 years. But if you mean Bush Jr, then I do disagree that he had more executive experience than Obama. He was governor of Texas, which is a figurehead position. In Texas, the governor does not have nearly the powers of a governor in other states; he has to answer to a whole slate of executive officers who are all elected separately. He was a figurehead President of a baseball team before that. And then he became a figurehead President of the USA answering to Dick Cheney. My point is that Bush Jr.'s resume for President was lousy. He was where he was because his last name was Bush, no other reason. Certainly nothing to do with his merits or his executive experience. The one company he did actually run he ran into the ground (pre Texas Rangers). Barack Obama may have only been a Senator and state Senator, but at least he has actually had jobs where he had to work as opposed to being a full-time photo op clown living off of Daddy's name and money! To me, Barack Obama just seems the most rational and least insane. McCain practically froths at the mouth when he talks about war, Iraq, "victory", the surge, etc. There is something deeply wrong with people who get all excited about war. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:18:58 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Another econo-politicalish note - -- "Stewart C. Russell" is rumored to have mumbled on 8. Oktober 2008 22:25:57 -0400 regarding Re: Another econo-politicalish note: > but clearly the author of Shufflepuck Cafe ... > > Stewart > (who just installed Mini vMac on Catherine's new iMac just so she can > play Crystal Quest ...) Ah, memories! I guess every Mac used to have those two games installed back in the day ... Crystal Quest was such a great game, especially the sounds. I never understood why it wasn't updated for newer systems. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:16:05 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: perhaps this is being discussed in another thread even as we speak... i remember coke bottles having pictures of baseball players underneath which benefited dentists all over these United States especially mine that was a long time ago i assume these are some sort of new giveaway promotion, as you stated my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 10/9/2008 11:04:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, softboygirl@gmail.com writes: are Coke bottle caps what i think they are? was this like a rare boyhood collection, or this week's promotion? **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:28:40 -0400 From: Maximilian Lang Subject: RE: Master Debaters One does have the option of private insurance in Britain, no? > Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:14:01 -0400 > From: fsthomas@ochremedia.com > CC: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Master Debaters > > I've got a slight insight into the NHS and a good idea what the US > health care system is like. > > A bit of background. My ex-wife is from England. We dated for ~5 years > and were married just under 3. Things changed a bit in my life, but my > second wife's mother is English as well (it's all completely random, I > promise). > > Quickly to the point: my ex would often come down with what was referred > to as tonsillitis. Chronic sore throat. She would go to her NHS doctor > and get a referral to an Ear Nose and Throat doc. Usually about 2 to 3 > months out. By the time she saw the referring doctor she was > asymptomatic and dismissed. Had she seen a specialist when she was > presenting with symptoms she would have been adequately diagnosed and > treated. Such wasn't the case. > > Now granted tonsillitis (or whatever she may have been suffering) isn't > life-threatening. At least not on the surface. It's not a big deal. > > Take, however, my brother-in-law. He recently presented with symptoms > indicating one of three things: A brain tumor, an anurysm, or Multiple > Sclerosis. The diagnosing doctor recommended an MRI. > > A 42 year-old male got one within 3 days. That's in the US system. > > What, I wonder, would have been the wait-time for a similar patient > under the English/European system. > > Pipe up with examples, please. > > -f. _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:41:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "C. Huff" Subject: RE: no politics yes Whedon Speaking of Mr. Fillion, have you seen this yet: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-345424921734143239&ei=otzuSLm5NY6qrgLv-uDODA&q=nathan+fillion+pg+porn&hl=en PG Porn - all the fun of porn without the naughty bits ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "C. Huff" Subject: RE: Crimson... >I > turned round and glared at him again, but he just grinned back and kept on > hitting the drums. > > Tony L. Classic! Though I almost fell asleep at a Tony L solo show even when he played that stick thing...always liked his work w/ Peter Gab though... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:35:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "C. Huff" Subject: Re: Perspex Island, politics, and the wife <> LOL - during the taping of Storefront, he did say "Everyone here is allowed to comment on my hair looking weird for purposes of making the film look good, but comments are confined to this room" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:11:47 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: Master Debaters Well, I know I had to wait a few months to get my MRI here in California. Then after I got a diagnosis I waited another 5 months fro the surgery. The mri was in December and the surgery was in May (end of) So i had to suffer in pain for almost a year. yep, god bless america ea On Oct 9, 2008, at 6:14 PM, FSThomas wrote: > I've got a slight insight into the NHS and a good idea what the US > health care system is like. > > A bit of background. My ex-wife is from England. We dated for ~5 > years and were married just under 3. Things changed a bit in my > life, but my second wife's mother is English as well (it's all > completely random, I promise). > > Quickly to the point: my ex would often come down with what was > referred to as tonsillitis. Chronic sore throat. She would go to > her NHS doctor and get a referral to an Ear Nose and Throat doc. > Usually about 2 to 3 months out. By the time she saw the referring > doctor she was asymptomatic and dismissed. Had she seen a > specialist when she was presenting with symptoms she would have > been adequately diagnosed and treated. Such wasn't the case. > > Now granted tonsillitis (or whatever she may have been suffering) > isn't life-threatening. At least not on the surface. It's not a > big deal. > > Take, however, my brother-in-law. He recently presented with > symptoms indicating one of three things: A brain tumor, an > anurysm, or Multiple Sclerosis. The diagnosing doctor recommended > an MRI. > > A 42 year-old male got one within 3 days. That's in the US system. > > What, I wonder, would have been the wait-time for a similar patient > under the English/European system. > > Pipe up with examples, please. > > -f. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:24:37 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Perspex Island, politics, and the wife On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:49 PM, C. Huff wrote: > ...RH's hair was also completely out of > control - like the huge 70's mullet from the early Soft Boys period... > You've Got - which I > requested once and RH said "Yes, well, we all have these little motifs that > we > repeat, but they don't make very good songs do they..." !?! whatever > "dude"... The juxtaposition of these two comments immediately conjures up the line "You've got a hairstyle that suits you"... perhaps RH regrets writing that one? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:47:50 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Crimson... On Oct 9, 2008, at 9:44 PM, C. Huff wrote: >> I >> turned round and glared at him again, but he just grinned back and >> kept > on >> hitting the drums. >> >> Tony L. > > Classic! Though I almost fell asleep at > a Tony L solo show even when he played that stick thing...always > liked his > work w/ Peter Gab though... I shook his hand once at a Fripp solo show/lecture. I thought I had lost my entire arm. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:54:47 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Perspex Island, politics, and the wife Egyptians albums ranking: Element of Light Fegmania! Globe of Frogs Queen Elvis Perspex Island Respect EoL beats out Fegmania due to overall strength and breadth of the material. Diminishing returns since then though; not so much songwriting but production. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:02:27 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Donna Brazile! Donna Brazile! On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > If I wasn't still riding an inspirational wave from watching > Schiavo's Donna Brazile video, this would have made me slam my head > into a wall. Donna is beyond cool. Here it is again, including the whole panel. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:15:44 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: florida does it again On Oct 9, 2008, at 1:51 AM, great white shark wrote: > America is the weirdest country in the world, face it you guys you > can't even run an election properly , no wonder the states is > fucked and busy taking us all down with it :-) read this, florida > is STILL having problems counting ballots right ..... > http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/florida-countys.html > fancy having machines doing the ballot marking !!!! , whats wrong > with just marking the papers by hand like almost everywhere else in > the world does,!!!! > "ah YES , but using a machine is SO much more EFFICIENT " ( and > its so much easier to falsify the count and disenfranchise your > opponent and ITS PROBABLY GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!! ) > we be all doomed, doomed > der commander ( busy rolling eyes, ears, nose and throat at the > state of the union ) Yeah, Congress should have provided the money for a nice scantron type machine and not given the idiot local election officials a chance to buy whatever cool new thing they saw. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:11:24 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Master Debaters On 10/10/2008, Maximilian Lang wrote: > > One does have the option of private insurance in Britain, no? Why, yes, we do... and it's becoming more common with the spending cuts in public health... My MRI (prolapsed lumbar disc, since you're asking - all better now) came through in about five days. The noise it made reminded me that I hadn't played Metal Machine Music in AGES... c* > Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:14:01 -0400 > > From: fsthomas@ochremedia.com > > CC: fegmaniax@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Master Debaters > > > > I've got a slight insight into the NHS and a good idea what the US > > health care system is like. > > > > A bit of background. My ex-wife is from England. We dated for ~5 years > > and were married just under 3. Things changed a bit in my life, but my > > second wife's mother is English as well (it's all completely random, I > > promise). > > > > Quickly to the point: my ex would often come down with what was referred > > to as tonsillitis. Chronic sore throat. She would go to her NHS doctor > > and get a referral to an Ear Nose and Throat doc. Usually about 2 to 3 > > months out. By the time she saw the referring doctor she was > > asymptomatic and dismissed. Had she seen a specialist when she was > > presenting with symptoms she would have been adequately diagnosed and > > treated. Such wasn't the case. > > > > Now granted tonsillitis (or whatever she may have been suffering) isn't > > life-threatening. At least not on the surface. It's not a big deal. > > > > Take, however, my brother-in-law. He recently presented with symptoms > > indicating one of three things: A brain tumor, an anurysm, or Multiple > > Sclerosis. The diagnosing doctor recommended an MRI. > > > > A 42 year-old male got one within 3 days. That's in the US system. > > > > What, I wonder, would have been the wait-time for a similar patient > > under the English/European system. > > > > Pipe up with examples, please. > > > > -f. > > _________________________________________________________________ > See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of > your life. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:26:08 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: no politics yes Whedon 2fs says: > Shouldn't someone call an album "It Takes a Nathan of Fillions to Hold Us > Back"? t's such a fine line between stupid and clever. but i think jeff just managed to bridge the gap. xo p.s. i know i'm on record as being anti-pun, but, seriously, that one's impressive. i think i love it as much as i hate it (which is probably the best a pun can do with me.) - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:46:12 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: perhaps this is being discussed in another thread even as we speak... - --On 9. Oktober 2008 20:05:23 -0400 "(0% rh)" wrote: >> I have no idea what song you are refering to! I'm not even sure if I've >> already listened to every track on "Bod Case Of History" (that's what you >> mean, right?). So, which one is it and how does it heckle old Butchy? > > i'll go out on a limb here: you definitely haven't heard every track. OK :-) Guess I have my work cut out for me. > but the thing is it sounds like a jazz butcher song. in fact, it kind > of sounds like ALL jazz butcher songs. and not in a "homage" kind of > a way. Hm. >> A couple of weeks ago I traded in my Coke bottle caps for "A Scandal In >> Bohemia" from the iTunes Store. I only had that one on tape and hadn't >> listened to it in ages, except for those tracks that are also on >> "Draining The Glass". It was a real pleasure to finally have "Mind Like >> A Playgroup" and "Soul Happy Hour" once more! > > are Coke bottle caps what i think they are? Yup. > was this like a rare > boyhood collection, or this week's promotion? More like this decade's promotion. It's been going on for more than a year: each Coke bottle has a code printed in it. You can enter the codes on cokefridge.de. Then you can buy stuff for the codes. One option is to buy one iTunes song for 4 codes. My colleagues shared their bottle caps with me, so it wasn't hard to come up with quite a lot of songs. I still have about 20 songs remaining, I think. - -- .:.Sebastian Hagedorn - RZKR-R1 (GebC$ude 52), Zimmer 18.:. Zentrum fC Subject: Re: Master Debaters fsthomas@ochremedia.com wrote: >I've got a slight insight into the NHS and a good idea what the US >health care system is like. > >A bit of background. My ex-wife is from England. We dated for ~5 years >and were married just under 3. Things changed a bit in my life, but my >second wife's mother is English as well (it's all completely random, I >promise). > >Quickly to the point: my ex would often come down with what was referred >to as tonsillitis. Chronic sore throat. She would go to her NHS doctor >and get a referral to an Ear Nose and Throat doc. Usually about 2 to 3 >months out. By the time she saw the referring doctor she was >asymptomatic and dismissed. Had she seen a specialist when she was >presenting with symptoms she would have been adequately diagnosed and >treated. Such wasn't the case. > >Now granted tonsillitis (or whatever she may have been suffering) isn't >life-threatening. At least not on the surface. It's not a big deal. > >Take, however, my brother-in-law. He recently presented with symptoms >indicating one of three things: A brain tumor, an anurysm, or Multiple >Sclerosis. The diagnosing doctor recommended an MRI. > >A 42 year-old male got one within 3 days. That's in the US system. > >What, I wonder, would have been the wait-time for a similar patient >under the English/European system. > >Pipe up with examples, please. Your tacit assumption here is, of course, not baseless -- I know of *numerous* examples where people waited very long for referrals, sometimes *too* long (as in "too late"), to receive treatment on the NHS, or indeed were not treated at all, with dire consequences. (My wife lost her mother to just such a flagrant failure.) Having said that, we've already seen anecdotal evidence on the list from Eleanore, who took ages to receive treatment on the US system, which Craig received right away on the NHS. And for that matter, I also know friends and family members in the US who were misdiagnosed, poorly treated, had their meds mismanaged with life-threatening results, etc., so I think it's obvious that these are issues that will crop up under probably *any* system of healthcare. But also, your comparison is incomplete. Run your example (your brother-in-law) US scenario again, from the POV of an American who has no health insurance. Depending how plainly debilitating the initial symptoms were, someone without coverage would quite possibly not even seek treatment at all, knowing they wouldn't be able to afford it. They might never seek treatment before a condition swooped up and killed them outright, or otherwise, as is common, they would present to an ER after the symptoms had got so bad they could not be ignored. In these cases, either it is often too late for treatment, or they now require emergency treatment far beyond the preventive medical treatment that might have been effective in the first place, in the end costing the system more, and also running up massive debt for the patient and/or his family. Again, no one's claiming that the NHS is perfect. Yes, in response to one poster, private health insurance is available over here, and many people use it (some get it through employer benefits, and some purchase it for themselves). And unlike the system Sebastian describes in Germany, NHS patients cannot bypass their GP and go straight to a specialist for care, at least not in general. The NHS needs all kinds of work, and the many issues with it are a constant focus of attention - -- who knows how much of it can be fixed, and when. But I will say that during my eldest daughter's illness of the past two years, I've been absolutely blown-away impressed by the level of care available to her - -- it's no exaggeration to say she would probably not still be with us without the support of the numerous professionals involved in her care. And if we'd had to cover 20% of the cost of that care, well... I honestly can't think how we would have avoided homelessness. And I don't want to think about the health implications of that scenario on our girls. peace, Edward See your new look Tiscali Homepage - http://www.tiscali.co.uk ___________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:19:55 +0100 From: matt sewell Subject: Universal health care Not sure what I'm meant to be disagreeing with, but thought I'd weigh in anyway... The NHS tends to be much-maligned in some regions of the press, but my experience of it, and the experience of people I know, is actually pretty good. When I had my appendix out the hospital I went to (Dorchester, Dorset) was clean and the staff all excellent. The surgeon had very hairy hands and the anaesthetist an enormous orange moustache, but these were the only (slightly) unsettling things about the whole experience. Weirdly, I'd taken it entirely for granted - the fact it was all completely free - until talking to some American friends who seemed amazed that I could just rock up at the hospital and expect to be treated. I always find it quite amazing that a civilised country like America doesn't have this as I think most Europeans (and I guess some Latin Americans) see it as a right. I was shocked when I found out how much medical insurance was in the US - am I right in thinking it's over $200 a month? Blimey... Cheers Matt "yes, my Moon is New not Full" SewellOn 10/8/08, Benjamin Lukoff wrote:>> > From: "C. Huff" >> >> > I am actually for universal healthcare. It seems to work quite well in> > France,> > Sweden, Canada, etc....I think it is ridiculous that we, the American> >>>> I think the British might disagree with you... _________________________________________________________________ Get all your favourite content with the slick new MSN Toolbar - FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354027/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:44:43 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: Miles on BSDR (I know - I keep changing thread names...) Michael B. says: > I'll add "The Lizard" as one of my favorite BSDR songs that don't pop out as much as "Acid Bird" and the others. i love "the lizard". and it's really funny if you think it's about jim morrison (is that what everyone thinks that song is about, or do i just think everything thinks that?) but, really, not much ever gets close to "acid bird". it always seemed to me that if you took all the RH songs, and partitioned them into groups of like songs (however you define "like"), "acid bird" would always end up being the only member of its group. there's something kind of...off about that song that's really interesting. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:13:28 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Perspex Island, politics, and the wife in Northampton this year RH said something like - i hope my hair is ok and i hope YOUR hair is ok my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 10/10/2008 2:31:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, huff71@yahoo.com writes: LOL - during the taping of Storefront, he did say "Everyone here is allowed to comment on my hair looking weird for purposes of making the film look good, but comments are confined to this room" **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:16:29 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: song for natalie apologies if this was already posted, but i came across this by way of the elliott smith boards: http://forums.viachicago.org/index.php?s=b052fbcfe548af2013bae3b3152bd90b&showtopic=32865&st=240&p=1209320&#entry1209320 (download the *.wav file) i thought some fegfolks might like to hear the wilco guy sing a song for her. as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:21:26 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Universal health care - --On 10. Oktober 2008 10:19:55 +0100 matt sewell wrote: > I was > shocked when I found out how much medical insurance was in the US - am I > right in thinking it's over $200 a month? Blimey... It's *much* more than that in Germany if you earn as much as I do - which is not bad, but keep in mind that I'm a public servant, i.e. in the private sector some people earn many times as much as I do. I don't have the actual numbers handy, but my HMO charges 14.2% of my gross income per month. In my case that's more than $600 a month. Note that I only pay half of that. The other half is paid by your employer. So the health system in Germany isn't cheap if you earn more than the average person. But in my mind that's OK. It's a system based on solidarity. I'm not saying it's perfect, but it works. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:41:56 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: abbrev. qry. This is the second time I've seen iTunes' ID a track on a CD with a parenthetical "DTAS" appended (in this case, it was on several tracks on Nick Heyward's _The Apple Bed_). WFT? Am I supposed to know what that stands for...and why it's there? (Can't remember the other disc I ran into this with...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:45:45 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Feels Like 1974 A TV show is premiering tonight that might be of interest to some of the readers of this mailing list: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0787490/ J If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:31:09 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: "edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" Subject: Okay...Jazz Butcher? Okay, fellow-fegs, thou guiding lights of inspiration and taste... I am a total complete neophyte when it comes to The Jazz Butcher. Over the many years I've been reading (and sometimes posting to) the feglist, I've seen this artist come up numerous times, but to my knowledge I've never heard anything. But the persistent recurrence of references has slowly piqued my curiosity, so... What's it like? Where would you recommend me starting, were I so inclined? Any and all advice and guidance gratefully accepted! peace, Edward See your new look Tiscali Homepage - http://www.tiscali.co.uk ___________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:54:55 -0500 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Feels Like 1974 Aargh, or maybe it premiered last night and I missed it... On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > A TV show is premiering tonight that might be of interest to some of > the readers of this mailing list: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0787490/ > J > > If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the > essential words. -- Josi Saramago > http://www.readin.com/blog/ > - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Josi Saramago http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #746 ********************************