From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #736 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, October 7 2008 Volume 16 : Number 736 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Live at the Portland Arms personnel? ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Blunderbuss [Rex ] Re: confederate battle flag [Rex ] Re: "passed" vs. "passed away" [Rex ] Re: A couple of things about "Eye" [Rex ] REAP (late) [Rex ] Re: Oh, Stewart ["Stewart Russell" ] RE: A couple of things about Eye ["C. Huff" ] Re: A couple of things about Eye [2fs ] Re: A couple of things about Eye ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: A couple of things about Eye ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: "passed" vs. "passed away" [Michael Sweeney ] The "Eye" debate... [Michael Sweeney ] Re: The "Eye" debate... ["(0% rh)" ] This is the story of British butter [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: The "Eye" debate... ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: The "Eye" debate... [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] David Foster Wallace mention in CCR Review [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: A couple of things about Eye [Rex ] RE: The "Eye" debate... [Michael Sweeney ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:03:17 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Live at the Portland Arms personnel? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > The JPJ association is a relatively recent development. Jones was too busy > Led Zeppelining it up in 1978. > Yeah after asking that question I went to check the date of the record and realized I was way off. Who knows, I could be wrong about whether it's a mandolin -- I'd be the last to recommend you trust my ear -- just has that nice ringing tone I associate with mandolins and dulcimers. J - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Jose Saramgo http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:24:36 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Oh, Stewart On 10/6/08, (0% rh) wrote: > > 2fs says: > > Sorry - I appear to be in an LEP-like type-jabbering mood this afternoon > ;-) > > > i heard that. > > (perhaps you tried disguise my initials by using ALL CAPS. alas, you > have failed.) Your initials? I refer, of course, to Leo Engelbert Przyczyczrzk - well-known for his, uh, jabbering and typing. You can look it up! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:27:38 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Blunderbuss On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Nectar At Any Cost! wrote: > > not that it's any of my business; but given you've a family and all, i'd be > worrying myself with how you're going to be able to *feed* that family. as > in, learning how to grow and/or forage your own food. Well, yeah. I grew up in the sticks, so I like to delude myself that I got it covered. wanna know a story? when you were posting your many rekkid reviews along > about last spring, i had assumed that "tl;dr" arose when you'd misaligned > your hands on the keyboard, and you just decided to go with it. it wasn't > until a month or so ago, when i saw the string in a different venue, that i > realised the error of my assumptions. > Well, now that I know what a slow reader you are, I feel a little bad for foisting any of that stuff on you, particularly since my attempted warning looked unintelligible. Sorry about that... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:32:15 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: confederate battle flag On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:18 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > > > On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, HSatterfld@aol.com wrote: > > > Yuh-huh, what we really need is to start a jurisdictional debate between > the > Thought Police and the Dream Police (they live inside my head). No, they live inside of MY head! I am... struggling to put together the joke about how they've been there since they graduated from the Dream Academy, and throw the word "Syndicate" in there somewhere, but it's just not happening. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:34:12 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: "passed" vs. "passed away" On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Jill Brand wrote: > I always think that "passed" sounds very black/African American/people of > color/pick your description. I always thought it sounded like white people trying to sound black and/or/therefore more soulful. That's definitely the arena in which I've heard it most. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:41:35 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: A couple of things about "Eye" On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > * I kind of hate "Queen Elvis". It seems to me like a much worse song > than several others on the record, and yet it's the one that sticks in > my memory and that Robyn seems to play more frequently than any of the > others. I actually love the song, and, and this is far from the same thing, I think it's a really sharp piece of writing. I think what I love about it is that it manages to be very touching at the same time, which is really not easy. That said, I could go without hearing it at a live show again for a very long time. Somefeg noted recently that it seems to have now been grafted at the spine to a harmonica intro that... isn't as good as some of Robyn's other harmonica intros, and I was slightly relieved to be permitted to be tired of it. (It might be the first RH song I learned to play all the way through, after accidentally stumbling onto that cool D to Dmaj7 change in the verse. It's nice. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:49:00 -0700 From: Rex Subject: REAP (late) Nobody else posted it, so it falls to me: Nick Reynolds of the K3: http://entertainment.oneindia.in/music/international/2008/nick-reynolds-passed-away-041008.html Bad stretch for my mom and dad's idols... Mom was a big Paul Newman fan. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:10:33 -0400 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: Oh, Stewart 2008/10/6 2fs : > > I'd be more inclined to agree with you if eMusic downloads (they're an > example - true of anything else) also included artwork other than a postage > stamp, liner notes, etc., just like the physical CD. I see where you're coming from - even if I'm not too sold on the whole physical artwork thing. I like the way that Zunior does it: full album of good quality MP3s + PDF artwork in repro quality for $9; if you want lossless, you get FLAC + PDF for $10. I've only bought one title from Zunior (Crow's Nest / Nid de Pie from Claire Jenkins Avec Band - it's really good) but I like it. Just haven't quite worked out how to file the lossless stuff. Stewart "why yes I am actually 6km SE of Ostrander, ON" the, uh, Stewartster - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ - I'm in Tillsonburg - you're not. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:24:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "C. Huff" Subject: RE: A couple of things about Eye I have to say, I love Eye. I'm an Eye guy. Even tracks that I never really dug at the time like "Certainly Clickot" and "Agony of Pleasure" seem to age well compared to say (and I'm very much opening the door here) clinkers like anything on Nextdoorland or some of the "deep" tracks on Respect...I used to have an "I'm growing Betsy in a bag" t-shirt that, like my Thoth Egyptians shirt was probably stolen by my college roommate... The Eye tour was really great, too - he did all sorts of great little chestnuts...I feel like Eye is like the sister record of I Often Dream of Trains, springtime to its fall...same college roommate who stole shirts commented at the time that Clean Steve was "the best Bob Dylan song since 1975"....Glass Hotel, Executioner, Flesh Cartoons, and Raining Twilight Coast seal the deal for me. "There's so many ways you can screw up a child" - I like that line eventually led me to therapy lol I related to it like it was blood running through my head... Queen Elvis as a song really spoke to me as a young budding singer and guitarist - I always saw it as RH's take on the music industry and his own career - he came up at the time when pretty much every major label singer/guitarist had tremendous pressure to be like Elvis Costello (friend of mine signed to RCA in 1980 used to talk about this) - Speaking of that - is there anyone else here who saw the Queen Elvis tour, complete with London style phone booth on stage? It is funny to think of RH doing something like that now...instead of monologues he would duck into the phone booth for these conversations.... It also must be funny for RH to think of Eye now since that album was so completely wrapped up in Cynthia...she was selling merch on the Eye tour, and we stood there and watched them make out at the merch table for like 10 mins after the show lol a little weird.... I had a dream the night before that he signed an autograph for my girlfriend Alison on a bus schedule. Met him in front of the restroom after the show, asked for an autograph, pulled the first thing out of my pocket which happened to be a bus schedule...asked him to sign To Alison...that was also weird... Fall of 1990 - - definitely a psychedelic time all around... Yes. Eye will defend I. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:36:19 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: A couple of things about Eye On 10/6/08, C. Huff wrote: > > > The Eye tour was really > great, too - he did all sorts of great little chestnuts...I feel like Eye > is > like the sister record of I Often Dream of Trains, springtime to its > fall...same college roommate who stole shirts commented at the time that > Clean > Steve was "the best Bob Dylan song since 1975".... > singer/guitarist had tremendous pressure to be like Elvis Costello > The juxtaposition of these two reminds me of this odd idea I conceived once that "Clean Steve" is actually about the Attractions with a few names changed to protect the innocent - I mean, there's a Steve and a Bruce and a Nick Lowe cassette, so... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:40:49 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: A couple of things about Eye On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:24 PM, C. Huff wrote: > It also must be funny for RH to think of Eye now since that > album was so completely wrapped up in Cynthia... I have had that same thought about Perspex Island -- the interviews I've read with Robyn from the time of it's release, he's talking about (or the interviewer is talking about, or I am reading in) how he's found happiness and fulfillment with C, and the record is certainly very much about love and happiness and fulfillment. - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Jose Saramgo http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:43:21 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: A couple of things about Eye Here is the review I'm thinking of: http://quietriverpress.com/streview.htm On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:24 PM, C. Huff wrote: >> It also must be funny for RH to think of Eye now since that >> album was so completely wrapped up in Cynthia... > > I have had that same thought about Perspex Island -- the interviews > I've read with Robyn from the time of it's release, he's talking about > (or the interviewer is talking about, or I am reading in) how he's > found happiness and fulfillment with C, and the record is certainly > very much about love and happiness and fulfillment. > > > -- > If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the > essential words. -- Jose Saramgo > http://www.readin.com/blog/ > - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Jose Saramgo http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 04:02:26 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: "passed" vs. "passed away" Jill wrote: > I always think that "passed" sounds very black/African American/people of color/pick your description. I also think it sounds really cool, but if I said it, I'd sound like I was trying to imitate Oprah. < ...Good catch / call. I am currently editing a memoir by a mid-30s female African-American Pentecostal Pastor, and, especially regarding the references to the death of her Bishop father -- but also most of the other references to any people in her life dying -- uses "passes" or "passed"...and I have had to balance her preferred voice / sentiment with changing them all to "died" or, at the very least, "passed away." I had far too many family / friend deaths by my early 20s (and even more since; when my 90-yr-old grandmother died just less than 2 yrs ago, she had been long preceeded in death by nearly every other of my relatives on either side who were older than I)...and, perhaps because of this (plus my cynical, fact-seeking writer self) I've always had little use (personally; for me) for softened euphemisms -- my loved ones all (unfortunately) "died"...and I never really had any even momentary indecision about or differences in the verbage used. So it is very interesting to me to hear about how it can be different to others (and, Lauren, very interesting and notable that you noticed the difference in yourself; I can imagine many people shifting but A) not realizing it, and/or B) never wondering (or knowing) why they had). In a semi-related, yet angled-off tangent...among the deaths of my most favorite musicians, yes, I've had nearly 28 years to deal with the death of John Lennon (which, at the time, froze me into my freshman dorm room for several days until my then-GF semi-rescued me back to reality), so, while horrible, I don't (for example) tear up when I hear "In My Life" today. But, play me nearly any George Harrison or Joe Strummer / Clash, and I get more than a little emotional...and I don't think it's just that their deaths were more recent. Maybe it's just part of me growing older (with more personal losses)...But it also seems to me that maybe it's because GH was always the "younger brother" among the Beatles who we all appreciated AFTER JL or Macca (and I do love "ATMP" and even his late '70s records so much)...and, as for Joe (who I basically wanted to BE in 1982, at age 20, as I thrashed out guitar and led a band (nowhere, of course)), I think it's tied to feeling like I missed out a bit and maybe even "let him down" as a once-devoted fan who allowed his later work to slip by me unnoticed (and appreciated...and bought...etc.). Plus, both of them always pretty much struck me as somewhat "sweet" men (yes, even considering some of Joe's earlier pissiness) who were so talented and decent (heck, latter-era Joe just wanted to play...and would stand around begging people to come hear him and his new mates...and it never seemed to be about the $). ...But, yes, I (of course) also think of them as dying / being dead... Michael "I simply do not want to think about my composure / reactions after B. Dylan, P. Townshend, L. Reed, L. Buckingham, and, especially R. Hitchcock shuffle off this mortal coil (OK, prob. Macca, too) (ooh -- and Chrissie Hynde! shit)..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 04:14:24 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: The "Eye" debate... ...It's my favorite RH album (topping, I guess, "IODOT" and SB's "UM")...and one of my top-5 of all faves (most of which happen to be double record equivalents). It is one of -- I think -- very few albums ("Avalon" instantly comes to mind as another) that completely creates a sonic world that A) Almost no other songs (even by the same artist) enter, and B) None of its songs leave (if that makes sense at all). It seems -- although, of course, I do like some of the songs more than the others -- an almost single, solid piece of emotional songcraft. (Hmm -- thought of another: Joni's "Blue.") I was so glad when Robyn played my request of "Cynthia Mask" at a record-store appearance in '99 -- I love that song...but also so many of the others on that collection. Probably has at least something to do with the fact that a longtime relationship crashed then, and I retreated to a small, cloistered life, playing alot of it (and Sinead's "I Do Not Want...") and other moddy records...but...it's such a part of me now that it does not only bring that period to mind...but...ya never know where some of these things come from... Michael "Jeez = all this (and the last note) and you wouldn't think I'd already written a ton of words for various work projects last night and today..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn 10 hidden secrets from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 02:50:26 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: The "Eye" debate... Sweeney says: > I was so glad when Robyn played my request of "Cynthia Mask" at a record-store > appearance in '99 -- I love that song...but also so many of the others on that > collection. Probably has at least something to do with the fact that a > longtime relationship crashed then, and I retreated to a small, cloistered > life, playing alot of it (and Sinead's "I Do Not Want...") and other moddy > records...but...it's such a part of me now that it does not only bring that > period to mind...but...ya never know where some of these things come from... my "i remember "eye" post: "eye" reminds of the time i was friends with two other "frighteningly loyal"*** RH fans. actually, it was "eye" that turned the boy part of the couple from a so-so fan to "robyn is my god" (i think i've told this story before, but what happened was that he asked to borrow "queen elvis" and i gave him "eye" instead (which to an RH fan will seem like a natural mistake.)) there was at a year or two when we would drive, and drink way too much coffee, watch the clarence thomas hearings, and make fun of "deep" by peter murphy. but the thing that really explains that year or two was that "what album should i put on?" meant "what *RH* album should i put on" because we stopped bothering with the pretense that we ever wanted to listen to anything else. at one point, i could sign "cynthia masK" all the way through, although i sometimes tripped up on the stanza with the "smoke in the orchards." i believe it was godwin who asked for favourite RH lines maybe five(?) months back, and one of mine is from "linctus house" (the one about robyn's knees, and (presumably) cynthia's chisel. but there's another line in "eye" that i should mention . i had been listening to the album for years, and had just never heard the line. i still remember the feeling i had when one day when i noticed it: "i know how judas felt, but he got paid. i'm doing this for free, just like live aid." very funny, that mr. hitchcock. i still occasionally laugh out loud when i heard the line. (N.B. if i have that line wrong, for the love of all that is holy, DO NOT let me know.) as ever, lauren *** this was a phrase used in an ancient one-pagish article about robyn in SPIN magazine (i think in the article he was holding a balloon, or maybe just a depth-of-field enlarged piece of fruit. it also was where i first learned that robyn was a dad.) the phrase is so wonderfully accurate that it makes up for SPIN's entire existence. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:53:45 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: This is the story of British butter > Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:29:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jeff Dwarf > Subject: No Future! No Future! No Future for Land O'Lakes!!!! > http://www.avclub.com/content/newswire/johnny_rotten_shills_for I like the way he makes an enormous effort to pronounce "buTTer" but then slips back into the expected "Bri'ish" afterwards. - - Mike Godwin PS I have worked out what it means from the context, but I haven't come across the word "shills" before. Origin? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 07:21:01 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: The "Eye" debate... On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > It is one of very few albums that completely creates a sonic world that A) Almost > no other songs (even by the same artist) enter, and B) None of its songs leave Beautifully put. While I don't have this perception of "Eye" (there are several songs on there that seem to me like they could as easily be somewhere else) I think it's a *perfect* description of "Perspex Island" and of "Moss Elixir", my two fave RH records, and also of "Entertainment!" by the Gang of 4, and also of "Highway 61 Revisited", "Bringin it all back home", "Piper at the Gates of Dawn", "Revolver",... In short, a very nice definition of the perfect record, and one which I'm planning to borrow. (And thanks Lauren for the "frighteningly loyal" phrase.) J (Wondering, Mr. Sweeney, what you think about "The Beauty of Earl's Court" -- does the bonus track enter in to the sonic world of "Eye" or detract from it? It seems to me like a really pretty song and a nice close to the record, but then I am not investing as much in the record as a perfect object.) - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Jose Saramgo http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:09:18 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: The "Eye" debate... i remember when "eye" came out i had very little money - but i did have a gift certificate i bought "eye" and just thought it was IODOT-lite - --just another green solo acoustic album a few songs stuck out - some for better, some for worse many years later, i revisited the album and thought : not only is it probably better than IODOT - but it may be his best post-SB album in retrospect, i realize that , at the time, not only was i having trouble enjoying lots of things, i (not coincidently) had recently gotten married since it rained like a slow divorce (about ten years ago), i've been able to enjoy lots of things ! In a message dated 10/7/2008 2:53:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, softboygirl@gmail.com writes: my "i remember "eye" post: my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 09:17:32 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: David Foster Wallace mention in CCR Review Uncool Rising: Why It's OK to Listen to Creedence Clearwater Revival Cop: And was there anything of value in the car? The Dude: Oh, uh, yeah, uh...a tape deck, some Creedence tapesb& - -- The Big Lebowski In a 1997 interview with Terry Gross for NPRbs Fresh Air, the late David Foster Wallace spoke of the disclosure of pleasurable experiences in the age of the bironic voiceb as an intimidating negotiation. He described the fear associated with talking bstraight about anything that means anything that might sound clichC), might sound uncool, might sound unhip.... If the greatest sin in the past was obscenity or shock, the greatest sin now is appearing naC/ve or old-fashioned, so somebody can give you that extra-cool smile and devastate you with that one extraordinarily crafted line that puts a hole in your pretentious balloon.b Amazon Music fans and critics alike are familiar with Wallacebs dilemma of coolness. The taste of the collective consciousness is always attaching itself to some new renaissance, knighting things that were once ridiculed while shunning past darlings with an arbitrary shrug of the shoulder. Therebs pressure to stay ahead of the curve, to dwell on wardens of the old-guard only as ironic flirtations of kitsch, to search out dead-eyed authenticity in a medium that is, by its own construct, a fabrication of sound and style. But all of that elitist taste-posturing, as Wallace insinuates, is nothing but counterproductive hot air and partisan bullshit, so I wonbt let it ruin my enjoyment of Creedence Clearwater Revivalbstaple of classic-rock radio, formidable singles band, and yet the epitome of uncool in the eyes of some music separatists. The uncoolness of Creedence is, first and foremost, a result of its attachment to the classic-rock paradigm, a format that snobs attach to the lowest common denominator of rock appreciation because it reminds them of their small-town upbringing or their pre-enlightened days of scanning the radio dial for just another blast from the well-known past. Creedence also had one foot firmly entrenched in the jam-band aesthetic, a feared sub-species of classic rock that summons long-haired visions of the Grateful Dead and the Allman Brothers, mouths agape and eyes squashed shut, wailing long into the night. MORE ? http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/63818/creedence-clearwater-revival-and-the-dilemma-of-coolness my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 07:05:16 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: A couple of things about Eye On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:24 PM, C. Huff wrote: > I have to say, I love Eye. I'm an Eye guy. Even tracks that I never > really > dug at the time like "Certainly Clickot" and "Agony of Pleasure" seem to > age > well compared to say (and I'm very much opening the door here) clinkers > like > anything on Nextdoorland or some of the "deep" tracks on Respect...I used > to > have an "I'm growing Betsy in a bag" t-shirt that, like my Thoth Egyptians > shirt was probably stolen by my college roommate... Doesn't everyone like "Eye"? I do recall there being some detractors when I first joined this list many moons ago, but I haven't heard anyone slag it off for a long, long time. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:12:07 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: The "Eye" debate... Jeremy-- A) Hey, hey -- no "Mr." needed here...I'm feeling old enough lately! B) Thanks for the appreciation / interpretation of my "theory" (which is mine, ahem)...I like your suggestions, and I would further add (for me) "Blood on the Tracks," "Tusk" (all the weirder w/3 songwriters, but Lindsey's production provides the sonic glue), definitely "IODOT," "Court and Spark" (except I always skip the last track -- the old jazz one with Cheech and Chong on it -- cuz it smashes that mood/sense), "Achtung Baby" / "Zooropa," and "OK Computer" / "Kid A" / "Amnesiac." C) I do like "The Beauty of Earl's Court" quite a bit...but, of course, since the record has existed a certain way for me for 18 years...it's still the interloper into a very set world... D) I join many of the semi-reg Fegs out here (as has been commented on lately) in really appreciating the excited, thoughtful, curious addition you have brought to the list recently (heck, when I started posting maybe 3 years ago, I was cynical and sarcastic from the get-go (although much appreciative of RH, defensive about Lou Reed, boosting of Lindsey B., etc.)). The comparison of you and your approach to the recent post from the "Unsubscribe me...any talk of RH music?" guy is clearly the Alpha and the Omega...or the Obama and the McCain...or (tee-hee; this is it) the Robyn Hitchcock and the Russell "Air Supply" Hitchcock... Michael "See, all this time without playoff baseball to watch gives me PLENTY of writing/thinkin' time...GODDAMNIT!" Sweeney > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Michael Sweeney> wrote:> > It is one of very few albums that completely creates a sonic world that A) Almost> > no other songs (even by the same artist) enter, and B) None of its songs leave> > Beautifully put. While I don't have this perception of "Eye" (there> are several songs on there that seem to me like they could as easily> be somewhere else) I think it's a *perfect* description of "Perspex> Island" and of "Moss Elixir", my two fave RH> records, and also of "Entertainment!" by the Gang of 4, and also of> "Highway 61 Revisited", "Bringin it all back home", "Piper at the> Gates of Dawn", "Revolver",... In short, a very nice definition of the> perfect record, and one which I'm planning to borrow. (And thanks> Lauren for the "frighteningly loyal" phrase.)> > J> > (Wondering, Mr. Sweeney, what you think about "The Beauty of Earl's> Court" -- does the bonus track enter in to the sonic world of "Eye" or> detract from it? It seems to me like a really pretty song and a nice> close to the record, but then I am not investing as much in the record> as a perfect object.)> > _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #736 ********************************