From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #731 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, October 4 2008 Volume 16 : Number 731 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me! [2] Re: that debate thing [Marc Alberts ] Maverick ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: that debate thing [Rex ] Re: Cocaine ["Jeremy Osner" ] feg spotting? [2fs ] Re: Cocaine ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: that debate thing ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Maverick ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Jason & The Scorchers (fegmaniax-digest V16 #720 [michaeljbachman@com] Re: Jason and the Scorchers [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: And when she... ["edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" ] Re: Jason & The Scorchers (fegmaniax-digest V16 #720 ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Jason & The Scorchers (fegmaniax-digest V16 #720 [2fs ] varia [James Dignan ] Re: Maverick ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Maverick [2fs ] Re: Maverick ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Maverick [Rex ] Re: varia ["Miles Goosens" ] Van Morrison to Play Astral Weeks in Full [HwyCDRre] Re: varia [2fs ] Art (was: Re: varia (which I think was the MGM motto)) [Rex Subject: Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me! On 10/3/08, Rex wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Miles Goosens >wrote: > > > > i said it before, i'll perhaps say it again: *Family Guy*, *Family > Guy*, > > > *Family Guy*. > > > > > I said it before, I'll perhaps say it again: *sucks*, *sucks*, > *sucks* . So: _Family Guy_ does not get the West Virginians' electoral votes... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:19:28 -0400 From: Marc Alberts Subject: Re: that debate thing Rex wrote: > My question now is... have I been misunderstanding the term "Joe Six-Pack" > forever? I thought it meant "Joseph Who Habitually Consumes One Six Pack > of Beer Every Day". I'm pretty sure that'd qualify as alcoholism, so > really, she's courting the drunk vote? I mean, it makes sense in a way, > but... Hmmmm.... I've always thought of "Joe Sixpack" as simply a blue collar version of "John Q. Public." More of a "might consume" rather than "habitually consume." Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:44:34 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Maverick I blame Sarah Palin for making me think of John McCain just now when I heard John Peel calling Captain Beefheart "one of Rock's great mavericks". (video here: http://theroundy.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/10/captain-beefheart-documentary-john-peel-bbc.html ) J - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Jose Saramgo http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:49:49 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: that debate thing On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Marc Alberts wrote: > Rex wrote: > > My question now is... have I been misunderstanding the term "Joe > Six-Pack" > >> forever? I thought it meant "Joseph Who Habitually Consumes One Six Pack >> of Beer Every Day". I'm pretty sure that'd qualify as alcoholism, so >> really, she's courting the drunk vote? I mean, it makes sense in a way, >> but... >> > > Hmmmm.... I've always thought of "Joe Sixpack" as simply a blue collar > version of "John Q. Public." More of a "might consume" rather than > "habitually consume." I'm thinking you must be right. My personally conducted informal poll splits about 50/50 so far-- half thought of it as pejorative for drunken couch potato, the other half heard it as "average Joe". Slightly almost interestingly, the debate featured one actual Joe and two rhetorical ones-- Palin namedropped Mr. Sixpack, and Biden talked about a guy named Joe who couldn't afford to fill his gas tank. Weird. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 23:21:14 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Cocaine On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Laura Golias wrote: > My theory is that he has a closet full of those polka dot shirts. Hey speaking of polka-dot shirts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21voUGVzym4 J - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Jose Saramgo http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:33:13 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: feg spotting? Maybe not... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 20:54:10 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Cocaine Can I git a "Amen?" On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Laura Golias > wrote: > > My theory is that he has a closet full of those polka dot shirts. > > Hey speaking of polka-dot shirts: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21voUGVzym4 > J > > > -- > If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the > essential words. -- Jose Saramgo > http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 20:57:34 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: that debate thing > My question now is... have I been misunderstanding the term "Joe Six-Pack" > forever? I thought it meant "Joseph Who Habitually Consumes One Six Pack > of Beer Every Day". I'm pretty sure that'd qualify as alcoholism, so > really, she's courting the drunk vote? I mean, it makes sense in a way, > but... > Dude, among *serious* drinkers one six is considered an appetizer. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:00:47 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Maverick At one point I mentioned to my wife that it would be a nice deal to be able to administer an electric shock every time she used the words "maverick" or "also." It would be fun to see an index of the use of those two... On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > I blame Sarah Palin for making me think of John McCain just now when I > heard John Peel calling Captain Beefheart "one of Rock's great > mavericks". > (video here: > http://theroundy.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/10/captain-beefheart-documentary-john-peel-bbc.html > ) > > J > > -- > If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the > essential words. -- Jose Saramgo > http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:59:23 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Jason & The Scorchers (fegmaniax-digest V16 #720 - -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Miles Goosens" > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:02 AM, kevin studyvin wrote: > >> greetings from Nashville, the new LA, > >> > >> Miles > > > > > > I prefer to think that title belongs to Seattle, or as some of us like to > > call it, North North Hollywood. > > It's a line from the Scorchers' "Greetings form Nashville," which was > written during the early-'80s URBAN COWBOY-induced country boom. When > I moved here in '88, biz types still routinely referred to Nashville > as "the third coast." > > By the time the Scorchers reunited in the mid-'90s, country was > enjoying another cyclical genre boom thanks to Garth and the many > three-named hat acts, may their bowdlerizations of country's heritage > and veneration of the early Eagles earn them a spot in hell, so the > song still drew topical blood. Well, maybe the "call me on the > code-a-phone" line needed updating, but the rest, still true! I never bought into the Garth thing and the early 90's Country boom. It seemed to lack the roots appeal that the 1986 boom had with Steve Earle, Dwight Yoakam and to a lesser degree Randy Travis. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:39:14 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Jason and the Scorchers Quoting Rex : > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:58 AM, wrote: > >> >> * Oh, right. Was that before or after our memorable gig in Oxford when my >> trio Delayed Suburban Departures and Dolph Chaney played support to The Full >> Moon? > > > The *New* Moon, right? Or have they, having been around for a while, > decided not to be new any more? > > -Rex * You're right, Rex. Apologies to Matt. - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 12:44:49 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: "edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" Subject: Re: And when she... Can't believe I didn't think of it first time round, but definitely: The Knack - Sweet Dreams (from the amazing third album, Round Trip) Also how about Collideascope by Dukes of Stratosphear? peace, Edward >----Original Message---- >From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz >Date: 03/10/2008 22:28 >To: "2fs" >Cc: >Subj: Re: And when she... > >>On 10/2/08, James Dignan >><grutness@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: >> >> >>Julian Cope - I've got levitation >> >> >> >>Am I confused, or isn't this a Roky Erickson cover anyway? (Am I >>thinking of a different song?) > > >It possibly is - I don't know much Erickson and only have this on a >mix CD. Copey's version of it is very Beatlesque, though. > >James >-- > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. > -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= > See your new look Tiscali Homepage - http://www.tiscali.co.uk ___________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:35:24 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: feg spotting? On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:33 PM, 2fs wrote: > > > Maybe not... > Is that church in China? ;) - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:36:48 -0500 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Jason & The Scorchers (fegmaniax-digest V16 #720 On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:59 AM, wrote: > I never bought into the Garth thing and the early 90's Country boom. It seemed to lack the roots appeal that the 1986 boom had with Steve Earle, Dwight Yoakam and to a lesser degree Randy Travis. When I think of "boom," I'm thinking big sales for the genre and attention from the mainstream. While Randy Travis' splendid debut, STORMS OF LIFE, sold a bunch, the other members of the "New Tranditionalist" Class of c. 1986 (Earle, Yoakam, Foster & Lloyd, Lyle Lovett, etc.), didn't exactly dominate any chart, even though they got critical raves. When I first moved here in '88, I saw Foster & Lloyd out roaming the world so much that after a while it sort of ceased being a "celebrity sighting" to me. I still see Bill at record stores and at all kinds of local shows; he's a super-nice guy who's very supportive of the local scene and a real pleasure to talk to. Wish I could say that last part about Steve Earle. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:05:14 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: feg spotting? On 10/4/08, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:33 PM, 2fs wrote: > > >> >> Maybe not... >> >> > Is that church in China? ;) No - but it is a block and a half from a Chinese restaurant. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:06:39 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Jason & The Scorchers (fegmaniax-digest V16 #720 On 10/4/08, Miles Goosens wrote: > > > When I first moved here in '88, I saw Foster & Lloyd out roaming the > world so much that after a while it sort of ceased being a "celebrity > sighting" to me. I still see Bill at record stores and at all kinds > of local shows; he's a super-nice guy who's very supportive of the > local scene and a real pleasure to talk to. Wish I could say that > last part about Steve Earle. I wonder if Earle's mellowed any now that he appears to have settled down some, being married and all. Again. (repeat as necessary) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:43:53 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Palin (NR) > The blot on the Alaskan landscape that is Wasilla is the natural > consequence of a mindset that mistakes Ivana Trump for culture. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 07:21:40 +1300 From: James Dignan Subject: varia >There's some song called "Somewhere Apart" by some blinking Brit with gray >hair - sounds a lot like Lennon's "Remember"... Indeed so - it's on my original list. Thanks for all the suggestions - some good possibilities there. >also the one Mark McKinney played in a classic Season One Kids in the Hall >skit [...] and the direct parody of THE SEVENTH SEAL's reapmeister in the >Bill & Ted movies (the first B&T is way better than it has any right to >be).> How come no-one's mentioned Death from the Discworld books by Terry Pratchett? >- -Painting fabric is a bitch. as a flagmaker, I agree. As someone who paints a lot on canvas, I doubly agree. > > If she'd said Remington would you have been diving for cover? > >Wha? It's tough typing from beneath the desk with the e-mails >whistling overhead... When I hear the word "typewriter" I reach for my Remington :) James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:56:41 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Maverick Perfect t-shirt: VAN VLIET '08 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:18:32 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Maverick On 10/4/08, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Perfect t-shirt: VAN VLIET '08 > "What this nation needs is a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag!" "Fast 'n' bulbous! Fast 'n' bulbous!" - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ps: bulbous also tapered ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 16:37:19 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Maverick On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 4:18 PM, 2fs wrote: > "Fast 'n' bulbous! Fast 'n' bulbous!" I was *shocked*, on listening to TMR last night, to realize (and have confirmed at the Asking Tree), that Robyn has never used the word "bulbous" in any of his lyric. Shook me to my core it did. (More bulbosity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMfmzEpvW-g -- Shindig!) J - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Jose Saramgo http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 13:37:31 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Maverick On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:18 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 10/4/08, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > > > Perfect t-shirt: VAN VLIET '08 > > > > "What this nation needs is a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag!" > > "Fast 'n' bulbous! Fast 'n' bulbous!" > I would have liked to see the Sarah Palin - Joe Biden - The Mascara Snake debate, for sure. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 17:00:09 -0500 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: varia On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 1:21 PM, James Dignan wrote: >> There's some song called "Somewhere Apart" by some blinking Brit with gray >> hair - sounds a lot like Lennon's "Remember"... > > Indeed so - it's on my original list. > > Thanks for all the suggestions - some good possibilities there. Ooh, one I thought about while hearing the song in the grocery store today: George Michael's "Praying for Time," which definitely cops a Lennon/late Beatles feel. My contempt for Michael usually knows no bounds, but I love this song. > How come no-one's mentioned Death from the Discworld books by Terry > Pratchett? Me, because I've never read them. Not that I'm opposed to funny in my science fiction; I have too many Spinrad and latter-day Zelazny books for that. That's just something that somehow I never got around to. >> > If she'd said Remington would you have been diving for cover? >> >> Wha? It's tough typing from beneath the desk with the e-mails >> whistling overhead... > > When I hear the word "typewriter" I reach for my Remington :) James and I are celebrating the successful conclusion of this joke by flashing thoth gang signs at each other. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 18:05:34 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Van Morrison to Play Astral Weeks in Full Van Morrison to Play Astral Weeks in Full Yep, full album nostalgia is in full-swing, whether it's ATP's pioneering "Don't Look Back" concert series, MySpace's recently inaugurated "Front to Back" deal, or Oneida's characteristically creative approach to the trend. Nonetheless, it's nice to see somebody play through an honest-to-goodness classic, and few classics come as lauded as Van Morrison's Astral Weeks. Mr. Morrison intends to revisit the seminal 1968 set in full in concert early next month, according to a Billboard.com report. He'll do this sweet thing at Los Angeles' Hollywood Bowl on November 7 and 8, reportedly with some help from a few of the musicians who played on the album. The occasion for the Astral Weeks revival? Turns out it's just as zeitgeisty as this whole people-playing-full-albums thing: Morrison is filming a DVD, which will bear the title Astral Weeks Live at the Hollywood Bowl. Pray for sunshine! Er, on second thought, rain might be more appropriate for this one... Stream: Van Morrison: Astral Weeks [full album] http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/node/146133 Posted by Matthew Solarski on Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:00am my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 17:22:07 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: varia On 10/4/08, Miles Goosens wrote: > > > > >> > If she'd said Remington would you have been diving for cover? > >> > >> Wha? It's tough typing from beneath the desk with the e-mails > >> whistling overhead... > > > > When I hear the word "typewriter" I reach for my Remington :) > > > James and I are celebrating the successful conclusion of this joke by > flashing thoth gang signs at each other. Thoth Gang? Wasn't that a novel by Tibor Fischer? (Also the "band" that performed "The Black Dog Runs At Night" from the _Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me_ soundtrack...) - -- - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 17:21:47 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Art (was: Re: varia (which I think was the MGM motto)) On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM, 2fs wrote: > > Thoth Gang? Wasn't that a novel by Tibor Fischer? (Also the "band" that > performed "The Black Dog Runs At Night" from the _Twin Peaks: Fire Walk > With > Me_ soundtrack...) > If it ain't a potential Fall song title, I dunno what is. But then you knew I'd say that. Look, guys, I just got back from seeing BEVERLY HILLS CHIHUAHUA, and yeah, you might think that it's probably a really odious and crass kids' film, and I might admit that, yeah, I've rarely sat through anything more excruciating for the sake of the kids. But there was this one true moment of bravura filmmaking in there, and it bears mentioning. You see, at one point, we're introduced to a new character, who's meant to be a little rough around the edges, you know-- sorta from the wrong side of the tracks, if you catch my drift. And as he's introduced, the music cue on the soundtrack is-- seriously, you'll never believe this-- "Bad to the Bone"! No, I'm not making this up. They even used the George Thorogood version... the one with the Destroyers! Dream Department: it's no patch on Miles' Styx dream, and I can't say how it stacks up against the as-yet-undisclosed Mike Mills night-terror, but I had a dream that was for some reason a behind-the-scenes promo for a forthcoming U2 album. It had the band playing in the countryside on some kind of plain where you'd think you'd see a stone circle, but didn't. They were all fired up about this new instrumental song they'd written where they all played percussion and nothing else (although I think Bono did wail a bit at the tail-end of the big crane shot pulling away from all four of them tapping away on various tablas and bongos and stuff). At the very end they mentioned that the album would also include a cover of "I Wanna Destroy You" and a snippet of it was played... it sounded like U2 doing "I Wanna Destroy You". Neither the dream nor my recollection of it were colored with any kind of judgment on the project or the band... it was just sort of a Unconscious Press Kit for something that doesn't really exist. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 18:32:23 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Art (was: Re: varia (which I think was the MGM motto)) I thought MGM's motto was "ars gratia pecuniae." ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #731 ********************************