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fegmaniax-digest        Friday, October 3 2008        Volume 16 : Number 730



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: no country for new movies               [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>]
  Re: And when she...                         [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>]
  Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me!  ["]
  Clairmont                          ["Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>]
  Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me!  ["]
  Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724               [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>]
  Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724             [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724           ["(0% rh)" <softboygirl@gmail.com>]
  Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me!  ["]
  Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724         ["Jeremy Osner" <anacreon@gmail.com>]
  Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724               [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>]
  Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724  [Sebastian Hagedorn <Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-ko]
  Re: And when she...                [Gary Sedgwick <gary@thepoppyseeds.com>]
  Re: And when she...                [Gary Sedgwick <gary@thepoppyseeds.com>]
  Re: no country for new movies                  [Tom Clark <tclark@mac.com>]
  Re: And when she...               [James Dignan <grutness@slingshot.co.nz>]
  Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #728     [James Dignan <grutness@slingshot.co.nz>]
  Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #728    ["Miles Goosens" <outdoorminer@gmail.com>]
  what Lauren said, Re: DFW       [Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>]
  Mini-Review                        ["Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>]
  Re: Jason and the Scorchers               [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: that debate thing                     [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me!  [R]
  Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724             [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:22:15 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: no country for new movies

On 10/2/08, (0% rh) <softboygirl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> has anyone seen the new coen brothers movie?  opinions?
>
> the other one i'd like to see in the theatre is "transiberean."  but
> description for R rating included the generally-a-deal-breaker
> "torture", so i'm hesitant.
>

I think that's just because of the Kenny G. soundtrack.

- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:28:15 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: And when she...

On 10/3/08, edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk <edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> First things I thought of were:
>
> Klaatu - Doctor Marvello, probably for the 65-67


There's some song called "Somewhere Apart" by some blinking Brit with gray
hair - sounds a lot like Lennon's "Remember"...

Also: <http://www.artofthemix.org/FindAMix/getcontents.asp?strMixID=22779>



- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:21:02 -0700
From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>
Subject: Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me!

<I do think there's a crisis...just maybe not the crisis Wall Street is
describing.>

yeah, it's called "we consume resources much more quickly than they can be
replenished".  some may term this an "opportunity" (to change our ways)
rather than a "crisis".  but certainly, we will change our ways.  whether
willingly or not remains to be seen.


<Python's irritable Reaper leads the pack of funny reapers, but there's
also the one Mark McKinney played in a classic Season One Kids in the Hall
skit [...] and the direct parody of THE SEVENTH SEAL's reapmeister in the
Bill & Ted movies (the first B&T is way better than it has any right to
be).>

i said it before, i'll perhaps say it again: *Family Guy*, *Family Guy*,
*Family Guy*.


<As for the Barney Frank thing, I wasn't saying that I supported the bail
out (I called my Congressman and sent a bunch of e-mails saying, "slow
down, there's no rush").  I was just saying that Barney Frank cracks me
up.>

ah, good on ya.  i misunderstood what you meant by saying that you had
mixed feelings.


<<much like military keynesianism, imperialism, "structural adjustment",
slavery, protectionsim, the wto>>

<The market isn't about who gets rich, but about the allocation of
resources.  In these terms, the market hasn't been free since Franklin
Roosevelt got his grubby mitts on the country.>

uh, well...  first of all, the NIRA was *explicitly* touted as a means to
save capitalists from the vagaries of the market; and was very
enthusiastically supported by the business sector.


second of all.

slavery: *major* fucking market distortion.  pre-dates FDR.

imperialism/colonialism: *major* fucking market distortion.  pre-dates FDR.

protectionism: *major* fucking market distortion.  pre-dates FDR.

"structural adjustment": *major* fucking market distortion.  the practice
(if not the terminology) pre-dates FDR, to at least the british raj.  the
indispensable work on this is frederic clairmont's *Rise And Fall Of
Economic Liberalism*.  originally published in 1960, the introduction to
the 1995 edition is probably the most explosive opening to a book that i've
ever read.  hmm...i'll OCR a bit of it, and post it under separate cover,
so that those who would prefer not to read it may delete it straight away.

"intellectual property" (which i didn't list in my earlier post, but...):
*major* fucking market distortion.  pre-dates FDR.  *physical* property
(and not only as currently administered by the state) is a major market
distortion as well, if you think about it.


<Once the government gets their tendrils into economic life, they open
things up to corrupting influences, which can indeed channel manna to those
who shall high five.>

okay, let's grant that a truly free-market is not corrupt.  there's
absolutely no reason (based on historical experience) to suppose that a
less- or un-regulated market will remain, or ever have been, a truly free,
un-corrupted market.


<Once again--the more you regulate business, the more business wants a say
in what those regulations look like and the more money they shove in to
influence things.  This shouldn't be so shocking, but I guess it is.>

well, you've got it precisely back-asswards.  at least in the u.s. of a.,
it has been the largest business interests who've *led* the call for state
intervention into the economy -- both to stifle competition, and to smooth
out the bumps in the business cycle.  see, e.g., gabriel kolko's *Railroads
And Regulation*, *The Triumph Of Conservatism*, and *Main Currents In
Modern American History*.

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:21:53 -0700
From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>
Subject: Clairmont

Oradour sur Glane is the name of a small French village that the Nazis had
obliterated as reprisals against the French resistance. It still resonates
a vibrant chord in the national consciousness. Hardly had one year passed
since its liberation from the Nazi yoke than a colonial hungry France
bombarded the port of Haiphong, butchering more than 20,000 Vietnamese,
thereby triggering an unwinnable war. "Not merely have you committed the
most serious of crimes, but also the most serious of errors," intoned Ho
Chi Minh (1890-1969). Between the shelling of Haiphong and the end of the
battle of Dienbienphu more than a million Indochinese had been liquidated
by French colonialism with weapons supplied by the United States caste
oligarchy, hell-bent on imperial expansion at all costs.

It was in Indochina, too, that I witnessed the multiplicity of Oradours of
French imperialism in its greed to reconquer a peoples that had battled
Japanese colonialism tenaciously and victoriously. In Vietnam, there was no
room for the Petainists and Vichyite scum-collaborators as in France. It
was in Indochina that I saw at first hand how France, as the power
incarnate of mass genocide, had recruited and bestowed its citizenship upon
tens of thousands of Foreign Legion Nazi SS and Ukrainian fascists in
recompense for their bloody pursuits. Georges Bidault, a war criminal
responsible in part for the management of the Indochinese genocide, spelled
out the alibi of mass murder to his patron and benefactor, John Foster
Dulles: "In Indochina, we are fighting for the preservation of the free
world and democracy." That from a verminous closet Nazi collaborator that
actively sought the dropping of the US atom bomb on Indochina.

The hypocrisy and mendacity we may ignore. But what the historical record
does not permit us to bypass was that this first mass postwar racialist
genocide of an innocent Asian people, whose only crime was their unbendable
quest for freedom, was bankrolled to the tune of 60% by US financial
credits since 1947. The last word, however, belongs to Ho Chi Minh: "We
have long understood that words have different meanings for the oppressors
and the oppressed. Freedom is one such word. It has always been so. It is a
law of life. When you spit in the face of the colonialists they will always
call it rain."

In November 1949, Chairman Mao proclaimed in an eloquent eight-word
sentence the mood of freedom that reverberated throughout the colonial
slave empires.: "We the peoples of China have stood up." To which Dean
Acheson abjectly retorted: "We did everything that could be done to halt
the march of revolutionary events in China, but it was of no avail." The
white man's world in Asia was crumbling. Dienbienphu signalled the coup de
grace.

Dienbienphu, May 1954, one of the most decisively shattering events of the
twentieth century and of all times, was not only a victory of one of the
most legendary Third World military strategists Vo Nguyen Giap, and Ho Chi
Minh, but of all humanity. The white man in his pursuit of empire,
notwithstanding his unlimited financial resources and overwhelming
technology, was hammered to a frazzle by oppressed peoples of colour. For
the US oligarchy, it was a moment of wrenching tragedy and humiliation, the
prelude to genocide unlimited. Like millions, little did I ever imagine
that this new Imperial Frankenstein, whose hands and carcass was lavishly
drenched in Indochinese blood by its complicity with a criminal France,
would once again unsheathe its sword to decimate Vietnam, and all of
Indochina. It was to be performed on a scale so awesome in magnitude, that
it would have made the French SS wince, and look as fragile as a quivering
autumnal leaf.

It was crime without punishment. Genocide without a sense of shame and an
atom of remorse. Not a black penny of reparations. In Washington D.C.,
there stands a monument of infamy that celebrates this mass murder of the
Indochinese peoples. Erected in honour of the killers executed by the
bullets of the Vietnamese freedom fighters. In all ways, it bears
similarity to the Nazi killers, who, in the event of their victory and in
their lust to perpetuate the glory of their bestiality, would no doubt have
celebrated their holocausts by comparable Washington style monuments in
Berlin extolling the heroics of the executioners of the Final Solution.
With a touch of irony it no doubt would have been sculptured by one of the
surviving inmates of the Nazi crematoria. In much the same manner as the
Washington encomium to mass genocide was done by a Vietnamese emigre.

Not merely would the colonial victims not receive a single penny in
reparations, but to compound their agony a savage US two decade long
embargo would be hammered into the body of that martyred nation,
supplemented by every conceivable act of political victimization. The human
costs in deaths alone from the American occupation after 1955 was 4.35
million; to this must be added the 900,000 slaughtered by the French
occupant, or a grand total of 5.2 million. Nor should it be forgotten, as
General Giap has reminded us, that the anti-Japanese resistance that began
in 1941 led to the extermination of about a million Indochinese by war and
deliberate recourse to induced-famine. A number that tops 6 million dead,
and more millions maimed.

This indubitably will remain one of the greatest acts of State terrorism,
genocide and war crimes in recorded history. No peoples in the history of
the twentieth century have ever paid such a price for freedom  one
proportionately greater than that exacted by the Nazis on the peoples of
the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. It was to be the greatest epic victories
against the successive onslaughts of Japanese, French and US imperialism,
spanning almost a third of a century.

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 12:03:34 -0500
From: "Miles Goosens" <outdoorminer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me!

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Nectar At Any Cost! <etews@inwa.net> wrote:
> <Python's irritable Reaper leads the pack of funny reapers, but there's
> also the one Mark McKinney played in a classic Season One Kids in the Hall
> skit [...] and the direct parody of THE SEVENTH SEAL's reapmeister in the
> Bill & Ted movies (the first B&T is way better than it has any right to
> be).>
>
> i said it before, i'll perhaps say it again: *Family Guy*, *Family Guy*,
> *Family Guy*.

That would require me to watch the most loathsome, unfunny show on
American television.

There are very few shows I've ever absolutely hated, but FAMILY GUY
leads the pack.  I love the SOUTH PARK episode where they skewer it
meticulously and mercilessly.  Classic.

later,

Miles

- -- 
now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:56:35 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724

On 9/29/08, DougMash@aol.com <DougMash@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Unsubscribe.
>
> If there's a list that covers Robyn's MUSIC, let me know!


You mean the blonde Swedish pop singer?

I'm sure there is.


- -- 

..Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:30:47 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:01 PM, <DougMash@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Unsubscribe.
> >
> > If there's a list that covers Robyn's MUSIC, let me know!
>
>
> Doug -
>
> Wow.
>
> Feg is what it is.  It's a community with its own decade and a half of
> history, and it's gonna be conversational and off-topic at times, maybe
> even
> most of the time.  And most of the time I like being a part of it, so I
> stick around, even when I'm not contributing (sometimes when I'm not even
> reading!).  Sometimes it's easy to forget that what Feg is might not suit
> everyone, and I still feel bad when that happens.
>

Hell, I sometimes don't even take into account the possibility that someone
new might even show up to the party.  Which probably makes this a good time
to mention that Jeremy is awesome.

Some other off-topic stuff, though:

- -With the impending appearance of a Lucinda Williams record, could it
possibly be that I will finally listen to something other then The Fall for
the first time since May?  Hmm.  Maybe.  I planned on getting the Wire
record and most likely will before their show next week, but I don't really
know for sure. The Dylan collection looks interesting, too, but it'll all
keep, I guess. It would be interesting to extend this self-administered
musical psychog experiment for a whole year...

- -Since daily comic strips come up around here from time to time, I guess
this is as good a place to ask as any-- am I losing it McCain-style for
enjoying Sally Forth?  Or is it somehow inversely related to the nosedive
that that Chickweed Lane number has done lately?

- -Painting fabric is a bitch.

- -Rex

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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:23:07 -0400
From: "(0% rh)" <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724

Miles <outdoorminer@gmail.com> says:
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:01 PM, <DougMash@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Unsubscribe.
>>
>> If there's a list that covers Robyn's MUSIC, let me know!


> I hope you continue to
> give Feg a chance, or that you come back when there's a better chance that
> we're talking more about Robyn.  Heck, that link to Robyn's blog entry this
> morning was an on-topic thrill for me, and was good readin'.

or one could be so wacky as to start a conversation about robyn's music.

jeremy seems to have met with some success.

as ever,
lauren

p.s.  interchange i've had countless time with my dad (probably since
i was old enough to talk):

   dad: what's happening?

   me: not much.

   dad: (occasionally with accompanying short tap dance) make something happen!

- -- 
"people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:47:55 -0400
From: "Stewart Russell" <scruss@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me!

2008/10/3 Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>:
>
> That would require me to watch the most loathsome, unfunny show on
> American television.

Yeah, likewise. Unfunny, badly drawn; is there anything left to like?

 Stewart

- -- 
http://scruss.com/blog/

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:53:21 -0400
From: "Jeremy Osner" <anacreon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Jeremy is awesome.

Woo-hoo!

(Keep that comin and who cares about the RH content.)

J

- -- 
If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the
essential words. -- Jose Saramgo
http://www.readin.com/blog/

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:54:14 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724

On 9/30/08, Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> -Since daily comic strips come up around here from time to time, I guess
> this is as good a place to ask as any-- am I losing it McCain-style for
> enjoying Sally Forth?  Or is it somehow inversely related to the nosedive
> that that Chickweed Lane number has done lately?



No - Sally Forth is written by the awesome Francesco Marciuliano (I looked
it up, and holy crap I spelled it right), and has been steadily improving in
the last few years from the days when it was sort of slightly more updated
"Cathy" woman-in-the-office strip. "Ces" (as he's known) also draws his own
strip "Medium Large" <http://mediumlarge.wordpress.com/>, and blogs at
"Francesco Explains It All" <http://francescoexplainsitall.blogspot.com/>.

Plus - his g/f is Sara Benincasa, who's behind the "Sarah Palin Vlogs" <
http://mediumlarge.wordpress.com/sarah-palin-vlogs-new/>

Also: yeah, 9 Chickweed Lane has gone into the toilet. The guy* can draw,
granted - but he's got nothing much to say, and says it at great length.

* True fact: "Brooke" is in this case a man's name.
- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:10:09 +0200
From: Sebastian Hagedorn <Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de>
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724

- -- 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com> is rumored to have mumbled on 3. Oktober 
2008 14:54:14 -0500 regarding Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724:

>> am I losing it McCain-style for
>> enjoying Sally Forth?
>
> No - Sally Forth is written by the awesome Francesco Marciuliano (I looked
> it up, and holy crap I spelled it right), and has been steadily improving
> in the last few years from the days when it was sort of slightly more
> updated "Cathy" woman-in-the-office strip.

Oh, you mean *that* Sally Forth! I'm only familiar with this one:

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Forth_(Wally_Wood)>

I bought those volumes as a teenager ...
- --
Sebastian Hagedorn
Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany
http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/
"Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:47:37 +0100
From: Gary Sedgwick <gary@thepoppyseeds.com>
Subject: Re: And when she...

Actually, Radiohead's Karma Police is almost Sexy Sadie... Lucky is 
pretty Beatles/Lennon too.
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Hi James,

>which reminds me of a projectIi've been toying with for a while - mix 
>CsD of "the songsthe Beatles never wrote" and "The songs  Lennon 
>never wrote" - songs so clearly influenced by either the Beatles or 
>John solo that they squeak. I've set myself the aim of at least 15 
>tracks, each by a different artist, for each CD - three CDs for the 
>Beatles (62-64, 65-67, and 68-70), and one for Lennon solo. Here's 
>what I've come up with so far - any suggestions for others would be 
>welcome...
>  
>
I always thought Airscape was very Lennon/Beatles-esque (although 
Somewhere Apart is pure Remember).  And of Radiohead's tracks, I would 
have picked Punchdrunk Lovesick Songalong if any.

Others... I hate to say it, but Oasis's Don't Look Back In Anger 
(complete with Imagine piano rip-off)?  Something off Supergrass's 
eponymous 3rd album - Moving, Mary... or Jesus Came From Outta Space (if 
nothing for the title)?  Something by Jellyfish (or more Macca than 
Lennon)?  Blur's Beetlebum?  Take That's Shine?  The Verve's Bitter 
Sweet Symphony?

Macca's Let Me Roll It?  :)

Gary

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:35:11 +0100
From: Gary Sedgwick <gary@thepoppyseeds.com>
Subject: Re: And when she...

Hi James,

>which reminds me of a projectIi've been toying with for a while - mix 
>CsD of "the songsthe Beatles never wrote" and "The songs  Lennon 
>never wrote" - songs so clearly influenced by either the Beatles or 
>John solo that they squeak. I've set myself the aim of at least 15 
>tracks, each by a different artist, for each CD - three CDs for the 
>Beatles (62-64, 65-67, and 68-70), and one for Lennon solo. Here's 
>what I've come up with so far - any suggestions for others would be 
>welcome...
>  
>
I always thought Airscape was very Lennon/Beatles-esque (although 
Somewhere Apart is pure Remember).  And of Radiohead's tracks, I would 
have picked Punchdrunk Lovesick Songalong if any.

Others... I hate to say it, but Oasis's Don't Look Back In Anger 
(complete with Imagine piano rip-off)?  Something off Supergrass's 
eponymous 3rd album - Moving, Mary... or Jesus Came From Outta Space (if 
nothing for the title)?  Something by Jellyfish (or more Macca than 
Lennon)?  Blur's Beetlebum?  Take That's Shine?  The Verve's Bitter 
Sweet Symphony?

Macca's Let Me Roll It?  :)

Gary

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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:11:51 -0700
From: Tom Clark <tclark@mac.com>
Subject: Re: no country for new movies

On Oct 2, 2008, at 10:39 PM, (0% rh) wrote:

> tc <tclark@mac.com> says:
>> I think I've recommended the Filmspotting podcast before
>> (http://www.filmspotting.net/).  Great reviews and insight.  I  
>> don't see
>> many first run films, but this always helps to figure out the next  
>> Netflix
>> delivery.
>
> i've been meaning to listen to that, and haven't out of general
> lameness, so i'm wondering if they discuss the plots of movie much?

For the most part, no more spoilers than your average newspaper write- 
up.  Although they recently did a two-part show about the new Batman  
movie - the second of which was an 'all-spoilers' edition.

- -tc

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:28:01 +1300
From: James Dignan <grutness@slingshot.co.nz>
Subject: Re: And when she...

>On 10/2/08, James Dignan 
><<mailto:grutness@slingshot.co.nz>grutness@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
>Julian Cope - I've got levitation
>
>
>
>Am I confused, or isn't this a Roky Erickson cover anyway? (Am I 
>thinking of a different song?)


It possibly is -  I don't know much Erickson and only have this on a 
mix CD. Copey's version of it is very Beatlesque, though.

James
- -- 
    James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand  <http://www.grutness.co.nz>
    -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-
    =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-.
    -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=-
    .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=

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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:36:20 +1300
From: James Dignan <grutness@slingshot.co.nz>
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #728

>On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:42 PM, (0% rh) <softboygirl@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > yes, what miles said.
>  >
>  > except make that an olivetti.
>
>Even though I know what an Olivetti is, that still reads to me like
>we're ordering cocktails!  Which sounds yummy right now, too.  Noon's
>not too early, is it?

If she'd said Remington would you have been diving for cover?

James
- -- 
    James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand  <http://www.grutness.co.nz>
    -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-
    =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-.
    -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=-
    .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:34:52 -0500
From: "Miles Goosens" <outdoorminer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #728

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:36 PM, James Dignan <grutness@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:42 PM, (0% rh) <softboygirl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  > yes, what miles said.
>>  >
>>  > except make that an olivetti.
>>
>> Even though I know what an Olivetti is, that still reads to me like
>> we're ordering cocktails!  Which sounds yummy right now, too.  Noon's
>> not too early, is it?
>
> If she'd said Remington would you have been diving for cover?

Wha?  It's tough typing from beneath the desk with the e-mails
whistling overhead...

later,

Miles


- -- 
now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:47:32 +0000
From: Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>
Subject: what Lauren said, Re: DFW

>p.s. for anyone interested in david wallace's writing...


...If anyone's interested, I copied and pasted and saved as Word.docs (but
have yet to read) the 4 short stories of his that The New Yorker had
available; these are:  1994's "Several Birds," 1995's "An Interval," 1999's
"Asset," and 2007's "Good People."

I can send 'em to whoever wants 'em -- just drop me a note...


Michael "See, me and Wells can calm down -- as both of our teams keep losing
in the playoffs..." Sweeney
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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:47:58 -0700
From: "Nectar At Any Cost!" <etews@inwa.net>
Subject: Mini-Review

Thee Emergency, *Solid*
 ~ holy fuckwater!, but this is good.  saw them play out at the time of
release, last spring, and wasn't terribly impressed with the new material.
apparently, though, they just needed to get out and tour it, 'cause this
shit's freaggin' *awesome*.

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:36:54 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Jason and the Scorchers

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:58 AM, <hssmrg@bath.ac.uk> wrote:

>
> * Oh, right. Was that before or after our memorable gig in Oxford when my
> trio Delayed Suburban Departures and Dolph Chaney played support to The Full
> Moon?


The *New* Moon, right?  Or have they, having been around for a while,
decided not to be new any more?

- -Rex

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:51:18 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: that debate thing

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>wrote:

> So Mandy and I caught the end of it.  Watching Sarah Palin talk was
> like reading a bad student paper - poor phrasing, overuse of certain
> words, no topic sentences, no arguments, just a lot of things that she
> thought ought to be in there.


Seriously.  What did syntax ever do to her?  I though McCain opposed
torture.

My question now is... have I been misunderstanding the term "Joe Six-Pack"
forever?  I thought it meant "Joseph  Who Habitually Consumes One Six Pack
of Beer Every Day".  I'm pretty sure that'd qualify as alcoholism, so
really, she's courting the drunk vote?  I mean, it makes sense in a way,
but...

- -Rex

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:56:26 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me!

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Miles Goosens <outdoorminer@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Nectar At Any Cost! <etews@inwa.net>
> wrote:
> > <Python's irritable Reaper leads the pack of funny reapers, but there's
> > also the one Mark McKinney played in a classic Season One Kids in the
> Hall
> > skit [...] and the direct parody of THE SEVENTH SEAL's reapmeister in the
> > Bill & Ted movies (the first B&T is way better than it has any right to
> > be).>
> >
> > i said it before, i'll perhaps say it again: *Family Guy*, *Family Guy*,
> > *Family Guy*.
>

I said it before, I'll perhaps say it again: *sucks*, *sucks*,
*sucks* .

>
> There are very few shows I've ever absolutely hated, but FAMILY GUY
> leads the pack.  I love the SOUTH PARK episode where they skewer it
> meticulously and mercilessly.  Classic.


I've only heard about that, but I have always approved of South Park.  My
friend Cliff and I deconstructed our mutual SP-love/FG-hatred and concluded,
amazingly, that the simple answer was that South Park has more (which is to
say, any)... soul.  Yeah, I know, but I stand by it.  Cliff's even a decent
church-going kid and all, so doggonnit, it must be true.

- -Rex

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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:02:30 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #724

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM, 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9/30/08, Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No - Sally Forth is written by the awesome Francesco Marciuliano (I looked
> it up, and holy crap I spelled it right), and has been steadily improving in
> the last few years from the days when it was sort of slightly more updated
> "Cathy" woman-in-the-office strip. "Ces"


Interesting, and good to know  I'm not insane.  For some reason (which may
relate to the existence of the *other* SF linked to here, inasmuch as the
name seemed familiar) I'd thought that SF was of a much older vintage (cf.
Rex Morgan or Apt 3-G), just updated.

I think that the devolution of Chickweed has to do with how characters that
were once difficult but occasionally rewarding to like have lately started
to seem like total bastards to a one.  Which is not bad by definition, but
definitely at odds with the, erm, lyrical art style...

=Rex

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