From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #729 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 3 2008 Volume 16 : Number 729 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: And when she... ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Cocaine ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: The only Obama t-shirt that matters ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Cocaine [Rex ] that debate thing ["Miles Goosens" ] no country for new movies ["(0% rh)" ] Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me! [2] Re: Cocaine [2fs ] Re: that debate thing [2fs ] Re: no country for new movies [Tom Clark ] Re: no country for new movies ["(0% rh)" ] Re: no country for new movies [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: no country for new movies ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: that debate thing [Marc Alberts ] Re: no country for new movies [Steve Schiavo ] Re: And when she... [Michael Sweeney ] Re: And when she... ["edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" ] Re: Jason and the Scorchers [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: that debate thing ["Sumiko Keay" ] live from a ship in the arctic... [Caroline Smith ] Re: And when she... [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:01:40 -0500 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: And when she... On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:52 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 10/2/08, James Dignan wrote: >> >> >> Julian Cope - I've got levitation > > > > Am I confused, or isn't this a Roky Erickson cover anyway? (Am I thinking of > a different song?) No, you're spot on. It's definitely an Erickson song, a 13th Floor Elevators cover as a matter of fact. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:13:05 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Cocaine Alternately that could be his skin... On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Laura Golias wrote: > My theory is that he has a closet full of those polka dot shirts. > The first time I saw Robyn play live he was wearing that shirt and dark > purple pants. > Another theory is that he still has all his clothes from the 70s. > Laura Golias > gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net > >> On Oct 2, 2008, at 5:15 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: >> >>> Mr. H singing a slightly modified version of the classic, up north: >>> >>> http://www.capefarewell.com/diskobay/if-the-ice-doesnt-melt-and-the-water-doesnt-freeze/ >> >> Wicked cool, but it begs the question: Does he take that polka dot shirt >> EVERYWHERE? >> >> -tc > - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Jose Saramgo http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:14:16 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: The only Obama t-shirt that matters That's because your e-mail client is interpreting the url wrong. I got the same thing but then I tried selecting the whole url, copying it, and pasting it into the address bar of the browser. Worked like a charm. On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:55 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 10/2/08, Steve Schiavo wrote: >> >> > ?productid=63596> > > > I get a notice that says: > > Access denied ! You are not allowed to access that resource! > > > ---- > > Which would be the only Dick Cheney t-shirt that matters. > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com > - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Jose Saramgo http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:00:50 -0700 From: "Terrence Marks" Subject: Re: And when she... > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 12:41:21 +1300 > From: James Dignan > Subject: Re: And when she... > > which reminds me of a projectIi've been toying with for a while - mix > CsD of "the songsthe Beatles never wrote" and "The songs Lennon > never wrote" - songs so clearly influenced by either the Beatles or > John solo that they squeak. I've set myself the aim of at least 15 > tracks, each by a different artist, for each CD - three CDs for the > Beatles (62-64, 65-67, and 68-70), and one for Lennon solo. Here's > what I've come up with so far - any suggestions for others would be > welcome... > > "Without the Beatles" - 62-64 > XTC - My train is coming > The Cars - Best friend's girl > Nic Armstrong - On a promise > Bill Direen - Caroline Bay > Knickerbockers - Lies > Julian Cope - I've got levitation > White Stripes - Pretty Good Looking (for a girl) > ...plus something by the Rutles > > "Helpless" 65-67 > Nic Armstrong - I can't stand it > Sam Phillips - I need love > Adrian Belew - I see you > Robyn Hitchcock - Flesh no. 1 > Bob Dylan - Fourth time around > Elvis Costello - Really Mystified > Nirvana - About a girl > Sneaky Feelings - Someone else's eyes > Jam - Start! > Bangles - I'm in line > ...plus something by the Rutles > > "The Blank Album" > Radar Bros. - When Cold Air Goes To Sleep > ELO - 21st Century man > Oasis - Born on a different cloud > Radiohead - My iron lung > King Crimson - Walking on air > Sparklehorse - Don't take my sunshine away > The Broken West - Shiftee > ...plus something by the Rutles > > "Gone Lennon" > Robyn Hitchcock - Somewhere apart > Nirvana - About a girl > ELO - Can't get it out of my head > Chris Knox - Ice breaker > My Morning Jacket - Wordless Chorus > Kelley Stoltz - The Sun Comes Through > Pop Levi - From the day that you were born > The Shortwave Set - House of lies > > Any thoughts? Just about anything by Los Shakers (Uruguay's answer to The Beatles) would qualify. Especially "On Tuesdays I Watch Chanel 36", "Got Any Money?" or "Break it All" (can't find the first, but the other two are at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBw3dd_NoKU and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tE_FM7SHRE). I'm sure I can find a few recommendations of high-quality beat music, but I'm not sure if that counts as influenced by the Beatles or being contemporaries. Nor am I sure that it matters, because most folks would parse it as "sounds like The Beatles" regardless. I'm contractually obliged to suggest something by The Monkees, but after years of insisting that they're totally different than The Beatles, I'm drawing a blank. I don't think Randy Scouse Git would be out of place on Helpless, but it's kind of a stretch. And for Gone Lennon? And I was thinking maybe something by The Rutles. Terrence Marks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:33:52 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Cocaine On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Alternately that could be his skin... > > Most Robynesque post of the year? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:39:45 -0500 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: that debate thing So Mandy and I caught the end of it. Watching Sarah Palin talk was like reading a bad student paper - poor phrasing, overuse of certain words, no topic sentences, no arguments, just a lot of things that she thought ought to be in there. We thought Biden wiped the floor with her. We happened to be on CBS at the time, and the initial analysis was what you'd expect from US network TV: one conservative "Palin rocked!" voice, one senior network analyst saying both did ok but Biden did better, and a democratic senator from Missouri (the host state) saying Biden did great. Then we switched to NBC. Oh. My. God. It was a sickening four-talking-head Palin lovefest. Now, one expects such claptrap from Peggy Noonan. But I was appalled to hear NPR's Michele Norris go almost as Palin gaga, as she even compared Palin to Harry S Truman and Andrew Jackson. And that was all stuff she came up with on her own! Mandy and I were looking at each other, saying "did they just watch the same thing we did?" Bizarre. Just freakin' bizarre. later, Miles - -- now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:26:58 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: no country for new movies has anyone seen the new coen brothers movie? opinions? the other one i'd like to see in the theatre is "transiberean." but description for R rating included the generally-a-deal-breaker "torture", so i'm hesitant. any opinions there? to give you an idea, i didn't make through "pan's labyrinth" because i winced at the guy-getting-caught-hunting-for-rabbits scene, and my DVD-viewing companion (who has already seen the movie once) said "it gets worse." as ever, lauren p.s. for anyone interested in david wallace's writing, here's a good list of what's available online: http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/09/15/a-david-foster-wallace-retrospective.aspx in particular, harpers has opened up its archive to the general public. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 23:33:28 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: An open letter from Michael Moore - and he's sound sensible to me! On 10/2/08, Marc Alberts wrote: > > > Once again--the more you regulate business, the more business wants a say > in what those regulations look like and the more money they shove in to > influence things. This shouldn't be so shocking, but I guess it is. What exactly would it mean for a government not to regulate "business"? "Business" is, after all, simply a name for certain economic behaviors engaged in by citizens...and "government" is an institution which draws up, interprets, and enforces laws, some of which must surely bear relevance to economic behaviors, since much human behavior is economic. Do you suggest that government be allowed to make laws pertaining to all human behavior except that the moment people start engaging in economic behavior, the government should suddenly yet discreetly withdraw behind the nearest curtain? Of course, if you were a full-fledged anarchist this wouldn't be a problem - you'd argue against the legitimacy of any government's right to regulate any sort of behavior in the first place. Problem there is, people tend to regulate other people's behavior: anarchy (in the trivial sense of unregulated behavior in the absence of government) is unstable; someone will eventually decide what this town needs is a sheriff, and whether they have "legitimate" authority or not, eventually, left to their own devices, a government (by which I mean simply a group of people acting according to some sort of rules trying to maintain some sort of order: that order might be generally beneficial or might be beneficial only to those doing the governing) will evolve. To say that government should not regulate business is to say that business behaviors should operate above and beyond any laws. Why should some behaviors enjoy that privilege, or indulgence? (Also: it's not "business" that wants a say in what "government" does; it's businesspeople who want a say in what elected officials do. That is, I think part of the problem is the tendency to reify institutions beyond the fact that human beings enact their mandates. "Government" is only a big hairy abstraction when it's not just people who make, interpret, and enforce laws under some principles, laws, or regulations.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 23:37:29 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Cocaine On 10/2/08, Rex wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > > Alternately that could be his skin... > > > > > > Most Robynesque post of the year? Well, he *was* born with trousers on...so perhaps the shirt came along as well. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 23:41:39 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: that debate thing On 10/2/08, Miles Goosens wrote: > > So Mandy and I caught the end of it. Watching Sarah Palin talk was > like reading a bad student paper - poor phrasing, overuse of certain > words, no topic sentences, no arguments, just a lot of things that she > thought ought to be in there. We thought Biden wiped the floor with > her. > > Oh. My. God. It was a sickening four-talking-head Palin lovefest. > Now, one expects such claptrap from Peggy Noonan. But I was appalled > to hear NPR's Michele Norris go almost as Palin gaga, as she even > compared Palin to Harry S Truman and Andrew Jackson. And that was all > stuff she came up with on her own! > > Mandy and I were looking at each other, saying "did they just watch > the same thing we did?" Can't remember now which debate it was, or in what year...but I've definitely experienced that. May well have been one of Bushie-Boy's debates - - before Cheney had his Electro-Dildo installed in Georgie's receptacle... Didn't watch the debates (no TV) - but I'm hoping that Palin's perceived as having dug her own grave (thereby, being in over her head) w/o stirring up the perverse "we's stoopid and proud" crowd or the "ooh the big bad bully's attacking our poor Sawah" crowd. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:04:03 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: no country for new movies On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:26 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > has anyone seen the new coen brothers movie? opinions? > > the other one i'd like to see in the theatre is "transiberean." but > description for R rating included the generally-a-deal-breaker > "torture", so i'm hesitant. any opinions there? to give you an idea, > i didn't make through "pan's labyrinth" because i winced at the > guy-getting-caught-hunting-for-rabbits scene, and my DVD-viewing > companion (who has already seen the movie once) said "it gets worse." I think I've recommended the Filmspotting podcast before (http://www.filmspotting.net/ ). Great reviews and insight. I don't see many first run films, but this always helps to figure out the next Netflix delivery. - -tc p.s. i'd be interested to hear from other Filmspotting fans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 01:39:52 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: no country for new movies tc says: > I think I've recommended the Filmspotting podcast before > (http://www.filmspotting.net/). Great reviews and insight. I don't see > many first run films, but this always helps to figure out the next Netflix > delivery. i've been meaning to listen to that, and haven't out of general lameness, so i'm wondering if they discuss the plots of movie much? i love movie reviews, but i've taken to reading them only after i've seen a particular movie, or when i'm sure i'm not going to see a particular movie. i just got so tired of knowing pretty much entire plots before i'd seen a movie (the worst is when there's A TWIST, and the reviewer spends time carefully not revealing any details of THE TWIST, clearly not getting or not caring about the fact that even revealing the existence of A TWIST is giving a hell a lot away.) xo lauren p.s. ms. palin was so adept at dodging the questions! i guess that's the maverick in her -- that gal won't be tied down by any damn MODERATOR or DEBATE FORMAT. at least it gave biden to occasionally flash that kinda-evil and (yes, lord help me) even-a-bit-sexy smile of his. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:48:14 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: no country for new movies On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:26 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > has anyone seen the new coen brothers movie? opinions? I saw it and this is my comment to another list I am on: Kinda felt like a palette cleanser. They needed to get the taste of NCFOM out of their mouths. Not a serious film, not a deep film, nothing really earth-shattering, just an exercise in, well, narrative, ah, sorta. Much like "The Crying of Lot 49" written while Pynchon was already writing "Gravity's Rainbow" and used to get him over a spot of writers block. A toss off. But even a toss off from the Coens is a good night at the movies. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:52:19 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: no country for new movies On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:26 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > has anyone seen the new coen brothers movie? opinions? > I laughed my ass off. I love Brad Pitt in tard mode (but let's not forget, as Robert Downey Jr's character said in Tropic Thunder, "You never go full retard"), as opposed to when he stands around looking all doe-eyed and wistful a la Meet Joe Death, or whatever that farging thing was called. > > i didn't make through "pan's labyrinth" because i winced at the > guy-getting-caught-hunting-for-rabbits scene, and my DVD-viewing > companion (who has already seen the movie once) said "it gets worse." > Well, apart from the abundant awfulness (and speaking as somebody who generally can't tolerate horror movies, especially the present wave of slasher flicks) the thing was utterly gorgeous, visually and spiritually. I'm a big Del Toro fan (including Hellboy, which I understand nobody else in North America had any use for at all). His stuff is so beautifully lit/photographed it reminds me of Velasquez, as seen through a Surrealist filter. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:18:57 -0400 From: Marc Alberts Subject: Re: that debate thing 2fs wrote: > On 10/2/08, Miles Goosens wrote: >> So Mandy and I caught the end of it. Watching Sarah Palin talk was >> like reading a bad student paper - poor phrasing, overuse of certain >> words, no topic sentences, no arguments, just a lot of things that she >> thought ought to be in there. We thought Biden wiped the floor with >> her. >> >> Oh. My. God. It was a sickening four-talking-head Palin lovefest. >> Now, one expects such claptrap from Peggy Noonan. But I was appalled >> to hear NPR's Michele Norris go almost as Palin gaga, as she even >> compared Palin to Harry S Truman and Andrew Jackson. And that was all >> stuff she came up with on her own! >> >> Mandy and I were looking at each other, saying "did they just watch >> the same thing we did?" > > > Can't remember now which debate it was, or in what year...but I've > definitely experienced that. May well have been one of Bushie-Boy's debates > - before Cheney had his Electro-Dildo installed in Georgie's receptacle... > > Didn't watch the debates (no TV) - but I'm hoping that Palin's perceived as > having dug her own grave (thereby, being in over her head) w/o stirring up > the perverse "we's stoopid and proud" crowd or the "ooh the big bad bully's > attacking our poor Sawah" crowd. > I was flipping channels after the debate, and saw my old buddy Frank Luntz talking to a crowd on Fox, asking them about areas where their reactions were more positive or negative (he has those little live reaction-boxes that he uses to get an instantaneous take on things). It was interesting--in the crowd, four of the audience switched sides from one ticket to the other because of this debate, and three of them switched from Obama to McCain because they thought Palin did so well. One older woman who made the jump said that "it was Palin's to lose, and by keeping up with Biden she proved that she wasn't the liability that the liberal press made her look like when they edited her responses to questions." (paraphrased) Luntz's conclusion--watch the tracking polls that come out in 24-48 hours. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:57:08 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: no country for new movies On Oct 2, 2008, at 11:26 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > has anyone seen the new coen brothers movie? opinions? And is I Got a Line on You in the movie itself, or just the tv commercial? - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:48:17 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: And when she... > "The songs Lennon never wrote" Cool idea...and, while it must just be some sort of unexplainable feeling (and I'm a deeply experienced Lennon fan), I've always somehow thought of "Black Hole Sun" as a song John might've come up with... Michael "Plus, ecerything by the Rutles..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:59:33 +0100 (GMT+01:00) From: "edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk" Subject: Re: And when she... First things I thought of were: Klaatu - Doctor Marvello, probably for the 65-67 Peter Case - Vanishing Act (or nearly anything from Six Pack of Love) for the Solo Lennon bit Good call on 'My Iron Lung', I'd never thought about that before. Oh, and you need at least one thing off Utopia's "Deface the Music" -- you could find a track off there for every section of the Beatles bit. peace, Edward >----Original Message---- >From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz >Date: 03/10/2008 0:41 >To: >Subj: Re: And when she... > >Rex wrote: >>I'm sure somebody knows, but I don't-- which came first, the electric >>version or the one with the freaky psychedelic tablas? The album version >>has always seemed like another one of those heavy Lennon trips to me > >which reminds me of a projectIi've been toying with for a while - mix >CsD of "the songsthe Beatles never wrote" and "The songs Lennon >never wrote" - songs so clearly influenced by either the Beatles or >John solo that they squeak. I've set myself the aim of at least 15 >tracks, each by a different artist, for each CD - three CDs for the >Beatles (62-64, 65-67, and 68-70), and one for Lennon solo. Here's >what I've come up with so far - any suggestions for others would be >welcome... > >"Without the Beatles" - 62-64 >XTC - My train is coming >The Cars - Best friend's girl >Nic Armstrong - On a promise >Bill Direen - Caroline Bay >Knickerbockers - Lies >Julian Cope - I've got levitation >White Stripes - Pretty Good Looking (for a girl) >...plus something by the Rutles > >"Helpless" 65-67 >Nic Armstrong - I can't stand it >Sam Phillips - I need love >Adrian Belew - I see you >Robyn Hitchcock - Flesh no. 1 >Bob Dylan - Fourth time around >Elvis Costello - Really Mystified >Nirvana - About a girl >Sneaky Feelings - Someone else's eyes >Jam - Start! >Bangles - I'm in line >...plus something by the Rutles > >"The Blank Album" >Radar Bros. - When Cold Air Goes To Sleep >ELO - 21st Century man >Oasis - Born on a different cloud >Radiohead - My iron lung >King Crimson - Walking on air >Sparklehorse - Don't take my sunshine away >The Broken West - Shiftee >...plus something by the Rutles > >"Gone Lennon" >Robyn Hitchcock - Somewhere apart >Nirvana - About a girl >ELO - Can't get it out of my head >Chris Knox - Ice breaker >My Morning Jacket - Wordless Chorus >Kelley Stoltz - The Sun Comes Through >Pop Levi - From the day that you were born >The Shortwave Set - House of lies > >Any thoughts? >-- > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. > -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= > See your new look Tiscali Homepage - http://www.tiscali.co.uk ___________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:15:15 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: that debate thing On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > > Mandy and I were looking at each other, saying "did they just watch > the same thing we did?" > For good (drunk) reactions to the reactions, check Roy Edroso's blog: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2008/10/first_reax_pali.php "is Ferraro a smoker? She sounds like Lucille Ball with a bad cold." J - -- If we do not say all words, however absurd, we will never say the essential words. -- Jose Saramgo http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:58:54 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Jason and the Scorchers Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:16:49 +0100 From: matt sewell Subject: Jason & The Scorchers (fegmaniax-digest V16 #720) Yeah, Jason R was over here a few years ago, in fact my band supported him at the Oxford Zodiac. Downstairs there used to be a stage and then a cocktail bar that doubled as a dressing room - we played on the stage (to about 10 people) then Jason got up and started his set (to about 15). He quickly decided he wasn't getting across and herded everyone into the dressing room and played his set there. It was one of the best acoustic sets I've ever seen - rocking, charming, funny, the lot. Absolutely Sweet Marie was in the set, as was England Swings Like a Pendulum Do... Everyone in the audience came out of that gig feeling like they'd *really* got their money's worth. Jason himself was a really nice guy. Dunno if he's been in the country since... Back to lurking, Matt * Oh, right. Was that before or after our memorable gig in Oxford when my trio Delayed Suburban Departures and Dolph Chaney played support to The Full Moon? I got ill soon after that and missed a lot of gigs during late 2004 and 2005, including The Magic Band at the Fleece... - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:43:28 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: that debate thing Seriously? NBC must think it needs to provide an antidote to MSNBC which is almost the opposite. Sumi On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Miles Goosens wrote: > So Mandy and I caught the end of it. Watching Sarah Palin talk was > like reading a bad student paper - poor phrasing, overuse of certain > words, no topic sentences, no arguments, just a lot of things that she > thought ought to be in there. We thought Biden wiped the floor with > her. > > We happened to be on CBS at the time, and the initial analysis was > what you'd expect from US network TV: one conservative "Palin rocked!" > voice, one senior network analyst saying both did ok but Biden did > better, and a democratic senator from Missouri (the host state) saying > Biden did great. > > Then we switched to NBC. > > Oh. My. God. It was a sickening four-talking-head Palin lovefest. > Now, one expects such claptrap from Peggy Noonan. But I was appalled > to hear NPR's Michele Norris go almost as Palin gaga, as she even > compared Palin to Harry S Truman and Andrew Jackson. And that was all > stuff she came up with on her own! > > Mandy and I were looking at each other, saying "did they just watch > the same thing we did?" > > Bizarre. Just freakin' bizarre. > > later, > > Miles > > -- > now with blogspot retsin! http://readingpronunciation.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:04:17 -0400 From: Caroline Smith Subject: live from a ship in the arctic... If anyone is interested in learning more about the expedition that Robyn is on, Feist will be doing a live radio interview in the next hour or so. You can listen online here by selecting "Q": http://www.cbc.ca/radio/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:53:29 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: an L series, and reap again And remains. They found remains and think that there is enough to do a dna test. Sumi On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:12 PM, James Dignan wrote: >> I'm debating watching the debate. I want Biden to rip that cracker bitch >> to shreds, but if he does, he'll be demonized for not being a nice person. > > I have retreated from "real US politics" to "US politics as it should be" > and am re-watching the final series of The West Wing. I swear I learnt more > about how US politics works (and should work) from any one episode of that > show that from a lifetime of watching the TV news. And as for "journalistic > independence"... where's I.F. Stone when you need him? > > Oh, and looks like the reap is official, they've found what's left of Steve > Fossett's plane at last. > > James > -- > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. > -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 07:55:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: And when she... James Dignan wrote: > mix CDs of "the songs the Beatles never wrote" and "the songs Lennon > never wrote" - songs so clearly influenced by either > the Beatles or John solo that they squeak. [pins] > > "Helpless" 65-67 > Nic Armstrong - I can't stand it > Sam Phillips - I need love > Adrian Belew - I see you > Robyn Hitchcock - Flesh no. 1 > Bob Dylan - Fourth time around > Elvis Costello - Really Mystified > Nirvana - About a girl > Sneaky Feelings - Someone else's eyes > Jam - Start! > Bangles - I'm in line > ...plus something by the Rutles The Minus 5 "On the Maroon" > "Gone Lennon" > Robyn Hitchcock - Somewhere apart > Nirvana - About a girl I actually think that "About a Girl" sounds more Harrison than Lennon. And it should have been in Help! > ELO - Can't get it out of my head > Chris Knox - Ice breaker > My Morning Jacket - Wordless Chorus > Kelley Stoltz - The Sun Comes Through > Pop Levi - From the day that you were born > The Shortwave Set - House of lies > > Any thoughts? "I love how (coffee) makes me feel. It's like my heart is trying to hug my brain!" -- Kenneth Parcell ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #729 ********************************