From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #711 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, September 16 2008 Volume 16 : Number 711 Today's Subjects: ----------------- re: reap [dolphmusic@yahoo.com] Re: david wallace ["(0% rh)" ] Re: david wallace ["(0% rh)" ] Re: david wallace ["Jeremy Osner" ] ridiculous idea of the second [2fs ] Re: ridiculous idea of the second ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: ridiculous idea of the second [2fs ] Re: reap [Tom Clark ] Re: david wallace [2fs ] BACK on DiME : The White Album 8/8/04 [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Editorial: Appreciations David Foster Wallace [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Editorial: Appreciations David Foster Wallace [2fs Subject: Re: david wallace Jeremy says: > I've been rounding up some links relevant to Mr. Wallace over the past > couple of days. I found myself just intensely moved by this warning, > which was part of a commencement address he gave at Kenyon College in > 2005: > >>Worship power, you will end up feeling weak and afraid, and you >>will need ever more power over others to numb you to your own fear. >>Worship your intellect, being seen as smart, you will end up feeling >>stupid, a fraud, always on the verge of being found out. But the >>insidious thing about these forms of worship is not that they're evil >>or sinful, it's that they're unconscious. They are default settings. this is true, although i should have known...what can you expect: really, nothing says Future Wig-Out "B.A., philosophy." and his father was a philosophy teacher. > I'm a little sad that I've only read Infinite Jest (and never reread > it, which it really needed), and thinking I will start on his essays > soon. i've probably told this story before, but you're a recent addition to FegList, so, i feel entitled and won't even bother to check the archives. story to be filed under either: "yes, my mom was THAT cool" or "the codependent daughter": i found "the broom of the system" sitting on top of one of my mom's bookcases. it was right after it came out, and, as usual, the review that prompted my mom to buy it, was folded and in the book. it sounded interesting, and i did actually read a bit back then, so i gave it a try. i didn't really care for the beginning (i think it's like the first 27 pages that i had to fight a bit to get through), but, at around page 28, that was it. i have such pleasant memories of getting through my evening rowing (machine) and show to get into bed to get back to that book. it was the first book that i really just did not want to end. the point being that i owe my discovery of wallace to my mom. (BTW, she never finished the book - just didn't care for it after 50 pages or so.) it turns out that i had more correspondence with him than i thought. i have a few "W" files, and i found like 5 letters i wrote to him over the years, but never sent (meant to rewrite them while checking for grammar and spelling ;) ). the most recent one was this past june. i got this odd samuel beckett film (called _film_) that reminded me of a film out of infinite jest, and so, one more excuse to write wallace another letter under the delusion that i might actually send it. i also gave him a photograph of mine - framed and everything. it's a picture of _infinite jest_ (i.e. my copy). i actually really love the photograph (it was entered, and was put, into two small, local shows.) it took me a year to send him the fucking (BSG, where art thou) thing. he had even given $10.00 to me for shipping. i still have the $10 bill. he was very gracious - sent me a thank you note, and next time i saw him speak in SF, he told me he had in his office. i had a crush on him (need i say) and tried to charm him by telling him about my _mason_and_dixon / _gravity's rainbow / ulysses wielding father, but i think what i managed to do was to give HIM a crush on my FATHER. he even put my father's name in MY book when he signed it - something like "for lauren with a fond hello to ralph." sheesh ;) and, 1% RH - when i shipped him the print, i included two cds for him - - RH and the boys, triptina's, 1992 (i think), and elliott smith, 1998, black cat. (i have no idea if he ever listened to them.) (BTW, jeremy, i have a little jpg of the photograph i sent him. i would have liked to have given a link to it but there's no way i'll crack verizon "my personal web space" until after a few 12-hour naps, so if you have a place to put it up (not meaning like to invade your blog but do you have non-blog space?), i'll be happy to send it to you.) the one book of his i couldn't read was the one about cantor and infinity. it mad me kind of sad, but it was just too infuriating to read (it was technical enough that it would be WAY easier for me to read a textbook.) i still laugh every time i think of the title or see the book on the shelf: "Everything and More: A Compact History of Infinity" (a little aleph null humour for jeff 2fs.) as ever, lauren p.s. i had no idea jeff 2fs liked wallace. not that it's a surprise, but i don't his chiming in on my wallace babblings (he probably just knows better than to encourage me.) p.p.s. only 3:00pm. huh - i usually don't keep myself awake blogging up the list until at least 3 *AM*. oh, well. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:23:24 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: david wallace sorry; that read like more of a mad lib than even my usual posts. just think of it as a little puzzle to guess the missing words. xo p.s. i promise to sleep after AI class. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:25:17 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: david wallace On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 3:14 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > i got this odd samuel beckett film (called _film_) Funny coincidence: I just found out about Film the other day. It's on YouTube now, a fairly high-quality compression. > > (BTW, jeremy, i have a little jpg of the photograph i sent him. i > would have liked to have given a link to it but there's no way i'll > crack verizon "my personal web space" until after a few 12-hour naps, > so if you have a place to put it up (not meaning like to invade your > blog but do you have non-blog space?), i'll be happy to send it to > you.) Sure, happy to. I usually use fasterupload.com to store pictures but if you have issues with them I'd be glad to put it on my server. Cool story about your mom. J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:37:40 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: ridiculous idea of the second cornpone bluegrass version of the song whose chorus is now altered to go "This means nothing to me...oh, Indianner..." ("Indiana" represents the big-city, northern way of life to this guy, I'm thinking) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:35:18 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: ridiculous idea of the second 2fs wrote: > > cornpone bluegrass version of the song whose chorus is now altered to go > "This means nothing to me...oh, Indianner..." Link, or it's not real. And cornpone is super-tasty. Stewart - -- np: Plone - Plock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:26:56 -0700 (PDT) From: JBJ Subject: Hitchcock quote about Dylan and Barrett? Does someone have a source for the quote about Robyn's influences? It was something like "Barrett inspired me to make music; Dylan showed me how it could be done." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:02:43 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: ridiculous idea of the second On 9/15/08, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > > > cornpone bluegrass version of the song whose chorus is now altered to go > > "This means nothing to me...oh, Indianner..." > > > Link, or it's not real. Oh, it's not real - except insofar as hypothetical songs playing in my head are real. I may yet rewrite the lyrics... I guess that means the link would be < http://jeffsbrain.worldwidehead.disorg/> - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:22:48 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: reap On Sep 15, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > Pink Floyd keyboardist Richard Wright, 65. Wright was more proof that a whole can indeed be more than the sum of its parts. The unsung superstar of the group. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:19:26 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: david wallace On 9/15/08, (0% rh) wrote: > > > this is true, although i should have known...what can you expect: > really, nothing says Future Wig-Out "B.A., philosophy." and his > father was a philosophy teacher. Although sadly, the years of clinical depression were a clearer signpost... > > > story to be filed under either: "yes, my mom was THAT cool" or "the > codependent daughter": How do I not remember that? Could've been in one of my unsub'd interims. Is there a plural for "interim" that isn't "interims"? Crap - yet another something Wallace would surely have known off the top of his head, bad hair, terrible hats and all... > > p.s. i had no idea jeff 2fs liked wallace. not that it's a surprise, > but i don't his chiming in on my wallace babblings (he probably just > knows better than to encourage me.) Yes - contrary to popular belief, I actually don't pop up on *every* last thread that's of vague interest to me...it just seems like that. Considering how long it takes me to read anything these days w/everything else going on, it's a testament to something that I actually did work my way all the way through _Infinite Jest_, footnotes and footnotes to footnotes and footnotes to footnotes to footnotes and all. And I could've sworn it was here that I made a joke that Wallace and Nicholson Baker were going to have a footnote competition...but perhaps that was elsewhere (and perhaps that elsewhere regrets it). I've yet to read _The Broome of the System_ (oops - feg misspelling!), and which book is it that's all mathy? Don't think I've done that one either. Need to reread all these huge enormous novels that I do like but damn when's the time? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:17:04 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: BACK on DiME : The White Album 8/8/04 Reseeded on request. I didn't record this, but may have been the last to seed it. If so, files will be as before. If not, tags may be different. Info file as saved by me follows.... http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=214648 Robyn Hitchcock and Heavy Friends Sunday 8th August 2004 The 3 Kings, Clerkenwell, London Audience Recording "The White Album Against The War" Medecins Sans Frontieres Benefit: Second Night Lineage MD master>CDR>EAC>FLAC 8 Robyn Hitchcock Kimberley Rew Paul Noble David Moritzi Morris Windsor with: Adam Buxton, Ed Harcourt Another great set from the legendary 3 Kings Pub in Clerkenwell. As Robyn says, "This is a stereo concert". Since the whole show was done for charity, downloaders might like to consider making a donation or other contribution to Medecin sans Frontiers. Medecins Sans Frontieres : http://www.msf.org/msfinternational/donations/ Disc 1: Sides 1 and 2 Back in the U.S.S.R. Dear Prudence Glass Onion Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da Wild Honey Pie Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill While My Guitar Gently Weeps Happiness Is a Warm Gun Martha My Dear I'm So Tired Blackbird Piggies Rocky Racoon Don't Pass Me By Why Don't We Do It In The Road I Will Julia Disc: 2: sides 3 and 4 Birthday Yer Blues Mother Nature's Son Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey Sexy Sadie Helter Skelter Long, Long, Long Revolution 1 Honey Pie Savoy Truffle Cry Baby Cry Revolution 9 Goodnight Robyn Hitchcock: 'We raised a total of #5,665 for Midecins Sans Frontihres over the two nights of "The White Album Against The War" at the Three Kings. Darren,Kim, Morris, Paul and I had a great time saturating ourselves in this late Beatle music and playing it at point-blank range without oxygen cylinders. Thank you to everyone who came to the gigs. The money will go to Darfur, Sudan, where MSF are now helping to improve life for many stricken people. We hope to do another session at the 3 Kings for MSF before too long. Michhle Noach (who organised the event) and I would also like to thank: Adam Buxton, Ed Harcourt, Callina de la Mare, Terry Edwards, and Romeo Stoddart for helping out with the show; Peter Blake for donating artwork to the after-show auctions; Liz Crawford, Michel Faber, and Vicky Hawkins for MC-ing between sides 2 and 3; and Deke Eichler and Simon Griffin for "Number 9."' my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:41:36 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Editorial: Appreciations David Foster Wallace http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/opinion/16tue4.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slog in Editorial: Appreciations David Foster Wallace By VERLYN KLINKENBORG Published: September 16, 2008 In the past couple of days, Ibve wondered whether David Foster Wallace ever imagined writing his own obituary. It would not surprise me if he had. He was a sublime parodist. His writing could subsume the DNA of any language, any form it encountered, while remaining completely his own. His suicide last week, at age 46, will unfortunately be read as a defining act of imagination in a career that is always being called dark, ironic and, above all, postmodern, the final statement of a splintering consciousness. I would have liked to have read his self-obituary, but only as another piece of his endlessly interesting work. I say that because he was too modest to be able to capture the very qualities that I, like all his colleagues at Pomona College, will always remember. Nothing in his work will tell you what a sweet man he was. He had the very rare gift b something he shared with Seamus Heaney b of carrying the greatness of his ability intact within him and never letting it obtrude upon his colleagues. He was just a laborer in the field along with the rest of us. To his students, he was especially generous. Many nights I have left my office in Crookshank Hall at Pomona College and seen Dave, in the office next door, deep in a Druidical conversation with a 20-year-old who was staggered by the possibilities of writing. In a sense, Dave and I conversed through our students. My students taught me how much he had taught them, and I hope the reverse sometimes happened, too. His work does not say how much common sense he had or that there was something tender, as well as demanding, in his privacy. It suggests that his presence might have been excoriating, when it was merely attentive and thoughtful. The roguishness of his author photos turned out b in person b to mean a fondness for torn T-shirts and no love for shaving his long jaw. I came to Pomonabs English Department expecting to find a hurricane of archness and ferocity. I found instead a humanist and a compatriot, and a man who will be very deeply missed. More Articles in Opinion B; A version of this article appeared in print on September 16, 2008, on page A28 of the New York edition. my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:08:33 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Editorial: Appreciations David Foster Wallace On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM, wrote: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/opinion/16tue4.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slog > in > > Editorial: Appreciations > David Foster Wallace > By VERLYN KLINKENBORG > Published: September 16, 2008 > His suicide last > week, at age 46, will unfortunately be read as a defining act of > imagination in a > career that is always being called dark, ironic and, above all, > postmodern, > the final statement of a splintering consciousness. Christ - I hope nobody's stupid enough to do that. Really - anyone over the age of 20 who thinks suicide is any sort of "act of imagination" is a moron. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:23:26 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Editorial: Appreciations David Foster Wallace On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:08 PM, 2fs wrote: > Christ - I hope nobody's stupid enough to do that. > SEK at Edge of the American West takes down John Ziegler, asshole talk radio personality who was profiled by Wallace in "Host" (The Atlantic, April 2005) and who has now written a mind-numbingly stupid article calling Wallace's suicide an act of personal aggrandizement. http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200504/wallace http://edgeofthewest.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/how-to-be-an-asshole-by-john-ziegler/ J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:16:24 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Editorial: Appreciations David Foster Wallace > VERLYN KLINKENBORG Not half a bad writer, either. "Timothy; or, Notes of an Abject Reptile" is one of my favourite books. 2fs wrote: > > Christ - I hope nobody's stupid enough to do that. Highly likely. Never expect rational opinions of suicide. I was (shocked and) appalled when I mooted the idea on the usually uber-reasonable BookPeople list that any Death+N year model of copyright discriminated against writers who had killed themselves. I got several responses to the effect of "Serves them right." So Chuck Palahniuk (born the same day as DFW, if wikipedia is to be trusted) is currently copyrighting the hell out of it. Stewart ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #711 ********************************