From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #693 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, August 27 2008 Volume 16 : Number 693 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: If you want to know what the future holds... ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Fegmania ["Jeremy Osner" ] And who robbed the miner? [Jill Brand ] Re: 0% RH -- just promoting myself... [2fs ] RE: 0% RH -- just promoting myself... [Michael Sweeney ] Re: And who robbed the miner? ["(0% rh)" ] Re: Fegmania [Tom Clark ] Re: Fegmania ["Jeremy Osner" ] O.T: tickets to the aimee mann & squeeze show in toronto ["Randi L. Spieg] Re: D&D Football (Slight Return) [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Floating cathedral prayer song ["Jeremy Osner" ] how to know that a bar is drop-dead cool [2fs ] firefox 3 not playing nice w/Acrobat? [2fs ] Re: Floating cathedral prayer song ["(0% rh)" ] Re: how to know that a bar is drop-dead cool ["(0% rh)" ] EMERGENCY (knock on wood) [Capuchin ] Re: Today in history ["(0% rh)" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:19:40 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: If you want to know what the future holds... The Woody Allen piece is funny, but the film is pretty skippable, so thought I. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:11 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/26/science/26crow.html > > And in other news: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/movies/24alle.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=slogin > > > np thurston moore, trees outside the academy > - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:34:21 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: 0% RH -- just promoting myself... Hey, jolly Fegs (and we're going to the Old Town School show of "IODOT" on 11/15, so see any of you Chicago-area fans there) (OK, so I guess that makes this maybe 3% RH...)-- Just wanted to promo a quick note and link to my brand new posting on The Stonecipher Report site, the first of my regular, weekly coverage of Illinois politics for them. This piece looks at the internal-facing figures (Gov. Blago, other state officials, leaders in the IL House and Senate, etc.) and next week's part 2 covers Mayor Daley, Sen. Durbin, and the other external-influencing state figures. These will have my usual mix of facts, opinions, and humorous touches -- you can be sure I'll keep them inerestingly readable! (They also now have a first-page "Michael Sweeney" link on the site - -- in the rigth column, a little ways down -- that will include my pieces grouped together as weeks go by and the number of postings grow...) http://stonecipher.typepad.com/the_stonecipher_report/2008/08/beyond-obama-an .htmlHope you enjoy it if you read it...I also recommend exploring the site, as well -- they are growing some devoted coverage of local politics (with more correspondents coming soon -- in fact, if you are interested in perhaps providing 2- or 4-times monthly updates on your state (and, so far, just IL, MT, and NE are taken), check out the "Write for The Stonecipher Report" link), as well as opinionated pieces on other interesting subjects. Thanks! Michael "Now returning to our more regularly scheduled coverage of trilobites, primate's relatives, and things up Eb's ass" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:47:12 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: is this thing on? craigie wrote: > Any news of "Where the Old Ones Are"? > Perhaps, but the messenger is gibbering in the corner at present. djini ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:11:09 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: Fegmania Michael B wrote: >Fegmania! holds a special place for me as it got me hooked on Robyn whenI bought a vinyl copy in 1985 after reading a couple of reviews (RS,Musician).< ...and the HwyCDRrev wrote: >i loved this album when it came out and listened to it to death . . .< ...As for me, yep, "Fegmania!" was my intro to RH back in '85, when I was also reading about it / him in those mags (AND Creem) AND when WXRT started -- heavily enough -- playing "Egyptian Cream," "My Wife & My Dead Wife," and "Strawberry Mind" to get me into it and to want more. Then followed "EOL," "BSDR," uncovering an import of "IODOT," etc. I STILL love this record...but, since my Rhino CD has somehow disappeared (still have the case, tho), I have not heard it in whole for a long time...AND (budget-wise AND getting-the-more-money-directly-to-Robyn-wise) we're waiting to buy "Luminous Groove" at the 11/15 show (plus, then we can get it signed, like "I Wanna Go Backwards" -- saving shelf room to display them next to each other!). I actually prefer it to "EOL"...but also rank "Eye" and "IODOT" higher than it (for me, at least)...but "I'm Only You"..."Goodnight I Say"..."The Man With the Lightbulb Head" -- man, there's a great bunch of stuff there...(can't wait to scrape the cash together and buy "LG" fresh off the table in November!) Michael "Funny how that 'XRT programmer deciding to feature a few songs from a new release almost 25 years ago can lead to the discovery of my eventual favorite musician..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yaho o_082008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:29:59 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Fegmania "My Wife & My Dead Wife" -- I *love* the live performances of this song that I've heard; but the version on the album does not move me much. (Funny question from my 7-yr-old daughter, listening to "I something you": "How come he says 'I haven't got a wife' if he has a wife and a dead wife?") Same goes for "I'm only you". "Strawberry Mind" and "Another Bubble" seem really interesting to me but I haven't quite got my head around them. "Egyptian Cream" does not really do anything for me. The highlight of the record I think is "Heaven"; I like the album version way better than any of the live performances I've heard, which are all slowed way down. (Although the live recording of "Heaven" in the bonus tracks is pretty nice too.) And speaking of bonus trax, "Lady Obvious" rocks. Does anybody know where it comes from? It's not on the Asking Tree. Does he perform this one much? J On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > Michael B wrote: >Fegmania! holds a special place for me as it got me hooked > on Robyn whenI bought a vinyl copy in 1985 after reading a couple of reviews > (RS,Musician).< ...and the HwyCDRrev wrote: > > >>i loved this album when it came out and listened to it to death . . .< > > > ...As for me, yep, "Fegmania!" was my intro to RH back in '85, when I was also > reading about it / him in those mags (AND Creem) AND when WXRT started -- > heavily enough -- playing "Egyptian Cream," "My Wife & My Dead Wife," and > "Strawberry Mind" to get me into it and to want more. Then followed "EOL," > "BSDR," uncovering an import of "IODOT," etc. > > I STILL love this record...but, since my Rhino CD has somehow disappeared > (still have the case, tho), I have not heard it in whole for a long time...AND > (budget-wise AND getting-the-more-money-directly-to-Robyn-wise) we're waiting > to buy "Luminous Groove" at the 11/15 show (plus, then we can get it signed, > like "I Wanna Go Backwards" -- saving shelf room to display them next to each > other!). > > I actually prefer it to "EOL"...but also rank "Eye" and "IODOT" higher than it > (for me, at least)...but "I'm Only You"..."Goodnight I Say"..."The Man With > the Lightbulb Head" -- man, there's a great bunch of stuff there...(can't wait > to scrape the cash together and buy "LG" fresh off the table in November!) > > > Michael "Funny how that 'XRT programmer deciding to feature a few songs from a > new release almost 25 years ago can lead to the discovery of my eventual > favorite musician..." Sweeney > _________________________________________________________________ > Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. > http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yaho > o_082008 > - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:19:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: And who robbed the miner? Jeremy innocently wrote: " Hey didja know, "The Bells of Rhymney" is an old Pete Seeger tune, and before that a poem by a Welsh Marxist, about workers dying in mine accidents." For someone of a certain age (old) and demographic (Brooklyn Jew born into a very leftist circle), this question (it was a question - there just wasn't any question mark) sounds not unlike "Hey, didja know that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings?" I'm smiling a little. I seem to remember that it has something to do with the general strike(s) of 1926, which were mostly a disaster. I know there are those of you out there who can comment more intelligently on this. I'm just back from a glorious week in the Adirondacks. I'm also marveling at the Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays. Maybe getting satan behind them was the best thing that they've ever done. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:59:37 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: 0% RH -- just promoting myself... On 8/26/08, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > > Just wanted to promo a quick note and link to my brand new posting on The > Stonecipher Report site, the first of my regular, weekly coverage of > Illinois > politics for them. This piece looks at the internal-facing figures (Gov. > Blago Speaking of, maybe some of the Illinois Mikes could tell me how the hell you pronounce his last name. We were driving through Illinois last week, and saw his name on a road sign, and we were both like, uh, Blagowhatzit then? Eastern European "j" and "c" and such always mess me up...'specially when I've got no idea where the accent goes. (Our governor is just named "Doyle" - that's much harder to mispronounce. Except by Republicans, who pronounce it "Crook" - he's not really but they look in mirrors so often they forget when they're not) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:32:57 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: 0% RH -- just promoting myself... Here's how you say our Governor's name (at least until it -- possibly, anyway - -- ends up being subsumed by an official Federal Prisoner's identification number): Blah-GOY-uh-vitch ...Or, using sports nicks, simply, "B-Rod." MLS Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:59:37 -0500From: jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.comTo: m_l_sweeney@hotmail.comSubject: Re: 0% RH -- just promoting myself...CC: fegmaniax@smoe.orgOn 8/26/08, Michael Sweeney wrote: Just wanted to promo a quick note and link to my brand new posting on TheStonecipher Report site, the first of my regular, weekly coverage of Illinoispolitics for them. This piece looks at the internal-facing figures (Gov.BlagoSpeaking of, maybe some of the Illinois Mikes could tell me how the hell you pronounce his last name. We were driving through Illinois last week, and saw his name on a road sign, and we were both like, uh, Blagowhatzit then?Eastern European "j" and "c" and such always mess me up...'specially when I've got no idea where the accent goes.(Our governor is just named "Doyle" - that's much harder to mispronounce. Except by Republicans, who pronounce it "Crook" - he's not really but they look in mirrors so often they forget when they're not)-- ...Jeff NormanThe Architectural Dance Societyhttp://spanghew.blogspot.com _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:58:37 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: And who robbed the miner? Sure -- I'm blushing a little about not having known the song before I listened to Robyn's recording of it. Do you know anything about the source poem by Idris Davies? It appears to have been called Gwalia Deserta, not sure if it was in Welsh or English or a combination of the two -- Dylan Thomas printed a portion of it in a collection of Welsh poetry, which is where Seeger found it. J On 8/26/08, Jill Brand wrote: > > For someone of a certain age (old) and demographic (Brooklyn Jew born into > a very leftist circle), this question (it was a question - there just wasn't > any question mark) sounds not unlike "Hey, didja know that Paul McCartney > was in a band before Wings?" I'm smiling a little. - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:13:05 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: And who robbed the miner? Jill says: > I'm just back from a glorious week in the Adirondacks. lake george is, i believe, my mother's favourite place in the world. she went there as a child with her parents, and she and my father have rented a place on the lake every summer for the last 15 years or so. her parents loved it as well, so much so that they asked that, after their deaths, their ashes be taken there. as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:25:54 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Fegmania On Aug 26, 2008, at 6:16 AM, hwycdrrev@aol.com wrote: > i loved this album when it came out > and listened to it to death . . . > but then it seemed to date quickly > > i do love it again now Agreed. The new releases are remarkably detailed. Listening to Morris' hi-hat work and Andy's bass just fills my heart with glee. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:17:00 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Fegmania Oh another thing that rocks is "Glass". I hadn't noticed this song until the most recent time I listened to the record but now I am thinking of it as among Robyn's Really Good Songs. A fairly large set but still. J On 8/26/08, Jeremy Osner wrote: > "My Wife & My Dead Wife" -- I *love* the live performances of this > song that I've heard; but the version on the album does not move me > much. (Funny question from my 7-yr-old daughter, listening to "I > something you": "How come he says 'I haven't got a wife' if he has a > wife and a dead wife?") Same goes for "I'm only you". "Strawberry > Mind" and "Another Bubble" seem really interesting to me but I haven't > quite got my head around them. "Egyptian Cream" does not really do > anything for me. The highlight of the record I think is "Heaven"; I > like the album version way better than any of the live performances > I've heard, which are all slowed way down. (Although the live > recording of "Heaven" in the bonus tracks is pretty nice too.) And > speaking of bonus trax, "Lady Obvious" rocks. Does anybody know where > it comes from? It's not on the Asking Tree. Does he perform this one > much? > > > J > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Michael Sweeney > wrote: > > Michael B wrote: >Fegmania! holds a special place for me as it got me hooked > > on Robyn whenI bought a vinyl copy in 1985 after reading a couple of reviews > > (RS,Musician).< ...and the HwyCDRrev wrote: > > > > > >>i loved this album when it came out and listened to it to death . . .< > > > > > > ...As for me, yep, "Fegmania!" was my intro to RH back in '85, when I was also > > reading about it / him in those mags (AND Creem) AND when WXRT started -- > > heavily enough -- playing "Egyptian Cream," "My Wife & My Dead Wife," and > > "Strawberry Mind" to get me into it and to want more. Then followed "EOL," > > "BSDR," uncovering an import of "IODOT," etc. > > > > I STILL love this record...but, since my Rhino CD has somehow disappeared > > (still have the case, tho), I have not heard it in whole for a long time...AND > > (budget-wise AND getting-the-more-money-directly-to-Robyn-wise) we're waiting > > to buy "Luminous Groove" at the 11/15 show (plus, then we can get it signed, > > like "I Wanna Go Backwards" -- saving shelf room to display them next to each > > other!). > > > > I actually prefer it to "EOL"...but also rank "Eye" and "IODOT" higher than it > > (for me, at least)...but "I'm Only You"..."Goodnight I Say"..."The Man With > > the Lightbulb Head" -- man, there's a great bunch of stuff there...(can't wait > > to scrape the cash together and buy "LG" fresh off the table in November!) > > > > > > Michael "Funny how that 'XRT programmer deciding to feature a few songs from a > > new release almost 25 years ago can lead to the discovery of my eventual > > favorite musician..." Sweeney > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. > > http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yaho > > o_082008 > > > > > > > -- > READIN 2.0 > http://www.readin.com/blog/ > - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:48:10 -0400 From: "Randi L. Spiegel" Subject: O.T: tickets to the aimee mann & squeeze show in toronto Hello! Sorry for the off-topic post; figured someone here might be interested. I have two tickets to see Aimee and Squeeze at the Kool Haus on Thursday. Amazingly, I suddenly have a wedding the same night (@#%&*!) so I cannot go to the show. Is there anyone who needs tickets and doesn't want to pay crazy service fees...? Please e-mail me and we can work something out; I don't want to keep these ticket stubs as a souvenir, I want to get them to someone who really wants to be there. Hope everyone's having a great weekend! fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi *what scares you most will set you free* ~ robyn hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:13:39 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: D&D Football (Slight Return) >Just another mention, if anyone else is interested in joining the >unofficial feg Fantasy Football thingy. We have 4 teams at the >moment, which is a little low, and could use 2-4 more. Actually >knowledge of football, up to and including not knowing the >difference between a QB and a K, etc, is not necessarily a >hinderance to playing Fantasy Football, especially if you have good >math skillz. For those who are unsure - the QBs start on c1 and c8, the Ks start opn e1 and e8. what that's got to do with football, though, is a mystery. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:48:19 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Floating cathedral prayer song Anybody know where the live version of "Heaven" is from, that is track 15 on the Fegmania! reissue? It is very nice indeed. I transcribed the intro thereto on my blog: readin.com/blog/?id=1414 J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:09:40 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: how to know that a bar is drop-dead cool I walked in to a bar the other day (no joke...), and damned if the sound system wasn't playing "Garden" by The Fall. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:19:10 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: firefox 3 not playing nice w/Acrobat? I just installed the most recent version of Ffx for Windows, and it crashes every time I tried to open a page w/a PDF doc. I disabled the Acrobat plugin and it works fine (Acrobat just opens it instead). Anyone else have this issue? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:05:47 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: Floating cathedral prayer song Jeremy says: > Anybody know where the live version of "Heaven" is from, that is track > 15 on the Fegmania! reissue? It is very nice indeed. I transcribed the > intro thereto on my blog: readin.com/blog/?id=1414 i'm not a big "fegmania!" person (a few of the early songs put me off a bit ) but the song "heaven" pretty much is all i need to say as to why i love RH. i haven't listened to all of the new set (stuck on "element of light"), but i'm guessing the version of "heaven" is the same as is on the (i think it was) rhino release? the first time i heard that live version, i was pretty much dumbstruck. but, to answer your question: not i. xo lauren, still amazed by arms, legs, memories, and anecdotes, - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:17:07 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: how to know that a bar is drop-dead cool 2fs says: > I walked in to a bar the other day (no joke...), and damned if the sound > system wasn't playing "Garden" by The Fall. that is sort of impossibly cool. btw, just two or three days ago, i was looking for my 1992-era egyptians stub (which turned out to be 7 february at the ritz in NYC), and found it stapled in a journal. i paged through the journal a bit, and there's a xerox of the lyrics to "garden" in the back (presumably from the liner notes.) i always found that song quite funny even though i have pretty much zero idea what it's about. i always liked the line: "he had forgotten / what others still tried to grasp" (IMO, it conveniently sums up pretty much everything mark e. smith thinks people should know about him.) (on a side note, not that i looked too hard, but i didn't find any RH dreams written down in said journal, but i found a fair amount of kind of strange and sometimes funny dreams here and there) e.g. one of them was something like: "i dreamt i was given a high-level security clearance. i then asked to see something secret; i was shown a very large letter 'P'. " as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:20:16 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: firefox 3 not playing nice w/Acrobat? 2fs says: > I just installed the most recent version of Ffx for Windows, and it crashes > every time I tried to open a page w/a PDF doc. > > I disabled the Acrobat plugin and it works fine (Acrobat just opens it > instead). > > Anyone else have this issue? not yet. (i.e. i haven't installed firefox 3 yet.) perhaps if you wait a few days, adobe will catch up. firefox 3 just came out, no? xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:28:26 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: firefox 3 not playing nice w/Acrobat? On 8/27/08, (0% rh) wrote: => perhaps if you wait a few days, adobe will catch up. firefox 3 just > came out, no? > It's been a little while -- several months if memory serves. I don't have any issues with pdfs on either of my computers, both have Firefox 3, one has Adobe plug-in. J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:20:57 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Floating cathedral prayer song On 8/27/08, (0% rh) wrote: > lauren, still amazed by arms, legs, memories, and anecdotes, Ooh, nice -- In "Heaven" he says "You've got arms/ You've got legs/ And you've got heaven"; in "Victorian Squid" he says "Victorian arms/ Victorian legs/... Victorian darkness". (Also in "The Cars She Used to Drive": "I glue my arms and legs back on so I survive..." -- but that is not quite in the same vein...) J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:10:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Capuchin Subject: EMERGENCY (knock on wood) Hey, if you live in the south, southeast, midwest, mid-atlantic, or northeast of the United States, I might like your help. In particular, if you live along or near the Crescent, Sunset Limited, or City Of New Orleans rail lines and wouldn't mind putting up a poor evacuee for a short time, I'd be quite grateful. If you don't know your local rail lines, well, look 'em up! I can cook and teach advanced mathematics. Gustav is staring us down and who knows how many are on the line behind that guy this season. Thanks. J. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:31:21 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: Today in history i say: > p.s. re: the georgian conflict. one of my professors (actually, the > one of most influence) is at home in georgia this summer. i'm hoping > that he and his family have been safe throughout the attacks. i'm SURE fegs are hanging by a thread, so i'll keep everyone in the loop and report that my mentor/professor sent this e-mail to me on monday: << Yes, I am (alive and) back, and will start teaching tomorrow. >> he was in mode=verbose (i think his response was about a third of the length of my initial e-mail, which may well be a record. we generally aim for about a 20-to-1 ratio.) i stopped by tuesday to talk with him, and he said some really interesting things. mostly about math ;) BUT he also talked about the news coverage of the events in georgia. he indicated the correlation between the news coverage and reality was...low. he was in an area of georgia that was free of conflict. he said prices didn't even go up where he was. as ever, lauren p.s. any philadelphia fegs going to the liz phair show to-night? i'm going with, yay, another feg (hi jeanne!) if you're going and want to say some hellos, e-mail offlist, or, just bring your cone (i believe cones get in free.) - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #693 ********************************