From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #688 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, August 21 2008 Volume 16 : Number 688 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) ["(0% rh)" ] Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) [Tom Clark ] bells of rhymney 12" [ontario moe ] RE: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) ["m swedene" ] Re: bells of rhymney 12" [2fs ] Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) [2fs ] RE: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) ["Brian Huddell" ] interview? [2fs ] Re: interview? [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Monkeys' Uncle ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) ["Laura Golias" ] Re: interview? [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: interview? [Tom Clark ] Re: interview? ["(0% rh)" ] Re: interview? [Carrie Galbraith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:01:07 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) J says: > You know what is nice? Listening to "Element of Light" for the first > time in a while, that's nice. Alone at home and can turn up "The > President" pretty loud. speaking of the box set*, i'm assuming the cds weren't released separately? so, record-geekish question: is, e.g., "element of light" considered (still) out of print? as ever, lauren * which i received yesterday as a belated birthday gift. sadly, i haven't been in an RH kind of mind (although jeremy's mentioned "the president" might have changed that. i just love that song.) - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:13:54 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) I think it must be in print now because you can buy it separately from YepRoc now, not just as part of the box set. (If anybody would like to engage in silly chat about EoL and Fegmania and such like, let me know -- wouldn't want to hog up the whole mailing list for that type of thing.) Regards, J On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:01 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > J says: >> You know what is nice? Listening to "Element of Light" for the first >> time in a while, that's nice. Alone at home and can turn up "The >> President" pretty loud. > > speaking of the box set*, i'm assuming the cds weren't released > separately? so, record-geekish question: is, e.g., "element of light" > considered (still) out of print? > > as ever, > lauren > > * which i received yesterday as a belated birthday gift. sadly, i > haven't been in an RH kind of mind (although jeremy's mentioned "the > president" might have changed that. i just love that song.) > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha > - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:36:33 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) On Aug 20, 2008, at 4:32 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > You know what is nice? Listening to "Element of Light" for the first > time in a while, that's nice. Alone at home and can turn up "The > President" pretty loud. I get so familiar with his songs I feel like > they're inside me during the interval when I have not listened to the > record; but then when I turn it on I find I've forgotten (or "failed > to retain") the amazing lushness of his voice. God knows you're out > there -- I can almost hear it raining. I'm going through the discs in order and just finished GLTHO. I've been avoiding that album for the recent past (say, 10 years or so) because my mental image of it was that it was way too Roger Jackson heavy. The new discs sounds tremendous and really shows off everybody EXCEPT Jackson, which is fine in my book. Like I said it's been a while since I listened to it, but I could swear it's missing the intro bit where Robyn says "This song is about life in the country a long time before most of you were born and the rest of you were dead" or some such, and also the intro about "going home wearing the wrong head". Am I hallucinating (again)? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:02:25 -0400 From: ontario moe Subject: bells of rhymney 12" inspired by that 1985 egyptians show being posted on dime today, i was doing a little cassette archeology and stumbled across a mysterious tape, one side of which was labelled "robyn live '84". turns out to be a hodge-podge of live stuff, all early as the indicated by the presence of roger jackson. some of the songs are clearly from the september 29, 1984 hope and anchor show (with the infamous power outage plagued "only the stones remain") but ... not all of are. there's a performance of "the bells of rhymney" which robyn introduces as being from an single "due out next month" to benefit the striking miners. that places the show in 1984, as that's when the 12" was released, but there are no egyptians shows in 1984 which included that song -- at least as far as the asking tree knows. there are a couple setlist-free shows though, so one would assume it's from one of those or from another show we don't know about. so, the question is: anybody know when that 12" was released? that would peg the month, at least, of that performance. incidentally, the 9/19/84 show in the asking tree is most likely a dupe of the 9/29/84 show. i have a tape with the former date but it matches the setlist and performance of a recording torrented a while ago wit the later date. interestingly, though, it appears to be a different source! maybe i'll digitize that tape soon as i get a chance. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:54:43 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) > (If anybody would like to engage in silly chat about EoL and Fegmania > and such like, let me know -- wouldn't want to hog up the whole > mailing list for that type of thing.) Yes, please keep your on-topic ramblings far away from our political discussion group! +brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:17:32 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) Well if that sort of thing's welcome here... I had never (or only a couple of times before just now) heard "Tell Me About Your Drugs". It's nice, I'm picturing that said from any number of different attitudes. Did not catch all of the lyric but it sounded like worth listening to over and over again until I could recite it. J On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Brian Huddell wrote: >> (If anybody would like to engage in silly chat about EoL and Fegmania >> and such like, let me know -- wouldn't want to hog up the whole >> mailing list for that type of thing.) > > Yes, please keep your on-topic ramblings far away from our political > discussion group! > > +brian > - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:02:28 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) i had issues with the download from their site.there was problems "uncompressing files" but it has since been cleared up. I am now listening to FEGMANIA! I forgot how great this album is. Are these all remastered or am I not used to listening to MP3 versions of this stuff? Mike ps - got my tickets for the Symphony show in November. Any other NYC Fegs going? Or our favorite girl from PA coming in for the show? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:14:42 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: bells of rhymney 12" On 8/20/08, ontario moe wrote: > > inspired by that 1985 egyptians show being posted on dime today, i was > doing a little cassette archeology and stumbled across a mysterious > tape, one side of which was labelled "robyn live '84". turns out to be > a hodge-podge of live stuff, all early as the indicated by the presence > of roger jackson. some of the songs are clearly from the september 29, > 1984 hope and anchor show (with the infamous power outage plagued "only > the stones remain") but ... not all of are. > > there's a performance of "the bells of rhymney" which robyn introduces > as being from an single "due out next month" to benefit the striking > miners. that places the show in 1984, as that's when the 12" was > released, but there are no egyptians shows in 1984 which included that > song -- at least as far as the asking tree knows. Is the Asking Tree still being updated? Is John Hedges on this list? Anyway, if he's uninterested in maintaining it, and if anyone here is so interested, perhaps dropping him a line to see about transferring its responsibilities would be in order? I can't do it - but it's a very useful site, and it'd be a shame for it to fade to kipple through lack of updating.... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:21:17 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) On 8/20/08, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Aug 20, 2008, at 4:32 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > You know what is nice? Listening to "Element of Light" for the first >> time in a while, that's nice. Alone at home and can turn up "The >> President" pretty loud. I get so familiar with his songs I feel like >> they're inside me during the interval when I have not listened to the >> record; but then when I turn it on I find I've forgotten (or "failed >> to retain") the amazing lushness of his voice. God knows you're out >> there -- I can almost hear it raining. > > He does have a very interesting voice, and is a very good singer most of the time. I used to think he was only so-so as a vocalist - silly prejudice re always being in tune and that - but I've come around. As for the "interesting": a fascinating guy who I think used to be here, and also used to be on the Loudfans list, but then apparently disappeared into, you know, having a job and a wife and life and shit - fella named Dennis McGreevey - once noted that Robyn's voice is very different in its different ranges. Rather like a clarinet in that - and since Dennis's comment, Robyn's lower range has become even more cavernous and, if not as expressive or gloomy as someone lke Johnny Cash, Michael Gira, or Stephin Merritt, certainly a unique instrument with a combo comedy/menace edge. His usual, middle register has a pleasing grit and nasality, and I think his phrasing and ability to convey emotion through various quasi-singing devices (breaks, roughness, etc.) is brilliant. And his upper register - which he doesn't use as much anymore - is nicely piercing with a nasal but not unpleasant quality, and with a good admixture of that same sandpaper quality he occasionally draws on, so as not to be too smooth or falsetto-esque. I'm going through the discs in order and just finished GLTHO. I've been > avoiding that album for the recent past (say, 10 years or so) because my > mental image of it was that it was way too Roger Jackson heavy. The new > discs sounds tremendous and really shows off everybody EXCEPT Jackson, which > is fine in my book. Yeah...Jackson never quite fit. It must be said, though, that as '80s keyboard sounds go, his are relatively non-objectionable. Like I said it's been a while since I listened to it, but I could swear > it's missing the intro bit where Robyn says "This song is about life in the > country a long time before most of you were born and the rest of you > were dead" or some such, and also the intro about "going home wearing the > wrong head". Am I hallucinating (again)? Yes. That's there - I heard it the other night. Unless, of course, I'm hallucinating. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:52:20 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) > Like I said it's been a > while since I listened to it, but I could swear it's missing the intro > bit where Robyn says "This song is about life in the country a > long time before most of you were born and the rest of you were dead" > or some such, and also the intro about "going home wearing the wrong > head". Am I hallucinating (again)? You're almost certainly hallucinating, but regarding the "wrong head" speech, it *is* on previous versions of Hen Out. Are you saying it's not on the box version? +brian ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:33:49 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: interview? I don't recall anyone here ever mentioning this - but has anyone here ever interviewed Robyn in person? What sort of impressions did you get, if so? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:55:27 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: interview? i saw his 2nd post SB gig with the TV personalities @ the venue in london 1981 i tried to get an interview but it was impossible to find anyone to help me :-( my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 8/20/2008 11:36:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com writes: I don't recall anyone here ever mentioning this - but has anyone here ever interviewed Robyn in person? What sort of impressions did you get, if so? **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:14:40 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: Monkeys' Uncle no. i'm saying that the presence of a state *always* means our inalienable rights are being violated; and that it's therefore not a violation of the rights of the very few persons profiting from that relationship to tell them that if they want to do captialism, they can go somewhere else and do it amongst themselves. of course, if they're able to deploy truncheons and lasguns and such, they'll just roll their eyes and get back to planning the next war. <> the purpose of the state is to protect private property. full stop. if a state's citizens are able to win certain rights, that's better than *not* having won them. but it's not ideal. and the state will do everything it can to in future *repeal* those hard-won rights. but if there shouldn't be *any* states -- and there shouldn't -- then, first, there'd be no state from which to withdraw, and, second, even an "atom-state" would be unacceptable. so, how about in the real world? what of south ossetia, kosovo, kashmir? well, you could say the relevant regional powers ought to simply do thus and so, according to the UN Charter by whose rules we've agreed to coexist. but if you say *that*, then who's the one being utopian here? the south ossetians are, at a guess, about as happy to welcome the russians as were the kurds to welcome the americans. wouldn't matter if they *weren't* -- the russians'd have found some other pretext (and as we saw with the phantom weapons of mass destruction that 90% of the world's population knew, long before the invasion of iraq, to have *been* phantom, the pretext can be merely the flimsiest of reeds) to consolidate their power in the caspian region. but so long as they are, the russians can use it for PR. < *inherently* leads to injustice, in that there becomes no agency short of force to counteract potential injustice.> so long as there's no private property, the state is not necessary to solve these types of problems. non-hierchical societies have survived for much longer than any state or empire ever survived, using their own methods to deal with aberrant behaviour, up to and including murder. ...and if there *is* private property, then there cannot be justice. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:20:48 -0400 From: "Laura Golias" Subject: Re: RH Box Set (yeah yeah I know) I got it today, and am now listening to Gotta Let This Hen Out. I've already listened to Fegmania! and Element Of Light. I'm saving A Bad Case Of History for last (for no particular reason). It's been a throroughly enjoyable evening. And I have tickets to the Alexandria, VA show at Birchmere. I can't wait! Any fegs going to that show? I'm very pleased, because I didn't think I was going to be able to go see Robyn this year. It was a nice surprise. Laura Golias gruntydawarthawg@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:34:11 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Monkeys' Uncle On 8/20/08, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > set of unspecified rights (such as deciding one day that your Posse Bucks > are real money) but to insist on a set of principles (best version: > principles that the people & government you're dissenting from claim to > concur with) and, when those principles are violated, argue that the > contract of state and citizen (whereby the citizen agrees to abide by laws > so long as the government respects those rights & principles) has been > breached, and that therefore the citizen is no longer bound by that > government (perhaps until some remedy is rendered, perhaps never again). At > least I think that's what you're saying.> > > > no. i'm saying that the presence of a state *always* means our inalienable > rights are being violated; and that it's therefore not a violation of the > rights of the very few persons profiting from that relationship to tell > them that if they want to do captialism, they can go somewhere else and do > it amongst themselves. I think you're confusing existing states with the concept of a state. I do not think that "the presence of a state *always* means our inalienable rights are being violated" - even if, in fact, that often is the case. Dammit - I'm trying to be utopian in one way, and you keep going on being utopian in a wholly other way. It's like fucking peanut butter and chocolate in here. > < rights.>> > > instantiation of the people's desire to stand against *other* forces of > oppression, or a counterweight to those with other forms of power (wealth, > privilege, etc.).> > > > the purpose of the state is to protect private property. full stop. "Is"? but does that imply "always has been and must be"? (This is really a rephrasing of my previous statement, of course.) > so long as there's no private property, the state is not necessary to solve > these types of problems. non-hierchical societies have survived for much > longer than any state or empire ever survived, using their own methods to > deal with aberrant behaviour, up to and including murder. I'm not sure what you're thinking of here (non-hierarchical societies)...nor the relevance of "up to and including murder." Surely you'd agree that states murder - but if murder is a problem, then arguing that non-hierarchical societies also murder, what is the argument against states generally? Wouldn't murder be the ultimate imposition of unfreedom? Perhaps I'm being presumptive in imagining that some sort of existential freedom is what you're valuing in your anti-state views... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:42:47 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: interview? On Aug 20, 2008, at 8:55 PM, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > i saw his 2nd post SB gig with the TV personalities @ the venue in > london > 1981 > i tried to get an interview but it was impossible to find anyone to > help me > :-( I had dinner with him once - he and Cynthia, a couple of other friends of mine and the SF DJ Fil Slash (KUSF) who is a friend of his and mine and engineered the evening. In SF in late 1990 at the home of a friend. I had just returned from 4 months in Poland and spent a fair amount of time in the kitchen with Cynthia talking about Eastern Europe. Then we all sat and ate and talked. I was a bit starry-eyed and Robyn was, well, witty, and perhaps a bit uncomfortable since one of my friends kept asking him if he wanted to climb the Bay Bridge (a regular habit of ours in those days). In the end it was a pleasant night, chatty and informal. Robyn ending it by asking of Cynthia: "do we have everything, including the weasels?" It was not interview-like but if I get a chance I'll dive in to my journal from the period and see if I wrote about the evening. Didn't Randi talk to him on a regular basis? Or she knew him fairly well and interviewed him more than once? I am sure she has material if anyone is still in touch with her. Take my eyes, I've used them, - - c - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let us develop a kind of dangerous unselfishness." Martin Luther King Jr. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:57:41 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: interview? On Aug 20, 2008, at 8:33 PM, 2fs wrote: > I don't recall anyone here ever mentioning this - but has anyone > here ever > interviewed Robyn in person? What sort of impressions did you get, > if so? Not so much a formal interview, but I remember Carrie telling about a party at a friend's house in SF with Robyn sometime in the mid '80's. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:29:23 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: interview? Carrie says: > I had dinner with him once - he and Cynthia, a couple of other > friends of mine and the SF DJ Fil Slash (KUSF) who is a friend of his > and mine and engineered the evening. In SF in late 1990 at the home > of a friend. I had just returned from 4 months in Poland and spent a > fair amount of time in the kitchen with Cynthia talking about Eastern > Europe. /girl:ON so was cynthia lovely and pretty, bright and smart, and all the things one (i.e. i) would imagine a woman who robyn wrote songs about would be? /girl:OFF > In the end it was a pleasant night, chatty and informal. Robyn ending > it by asking of Cynthia: "do we have everything, including the > weasels?" It was not interview-like but if I get a chance I'll dive > in to my journal from the period and see if I wrote about the evening. meaning...you'll share with us, yes? yes! > Didn't Randi talk to him on a regular basis? Or she knew him fairly > well and interviewed him more than once? I am sure she has material > if anyone is still in touch with her. /meta:ON there was some discussion onlist a few months back about whether anyone had been in touch with randi. i believe the winner was miles; he had been in most touch with her most recently (at least of those that spoke up) (i believe he had befriended her on myspace and had kept in touch with her a bit through that site.) although i should probably point out that my memory sucks. /meta:OFF since the list has been so >0% RH (god knows what *i'm* doing here), perhaps i'll dig up the old journals as well. since i didn't actually talk to robyn (at least during the time i kept journals), it's unlikely i've any comments about conversations i'd had with him. or if i do have such comments, it should be interesting figuring out why. on a serious(?) note, i can probably find some RH-related entries. i bet a lot of them are some variqtion of "he's sooooooooooo cute. and sooooooo funny. p.s. he's soooooooooo smart." also, i used to occasionally write what i had dreamt the previous night, and sometimes robyn was involved (n.b. NOT a sex thing since i, of course, loved robyn for his mind and wouldn't waste any talking opportunities on something as pedestrian as sex.) actually, i was going to check old journals to find what date i saw the egyptians in NYC in 1992. i think he played a few NYC shows that year. but it would kind of make my day if i can give an "amen" to michael b.'s testifying. as ever, lauren p.s. i actually listened to "element of light" and there are a few parts of that album that really crack me up. "raymond chandler evening" for one - it's really a very funny song. i LOVE the line: "i'd like to reassure you but / i'm not that kind of guy." but the even funnier line is in "never stop bleeding": "now you can bleed internally / or you can bleed outside." i love that line. it never stops being very amusing. it's just so very...true. i like how he uses the word "internally" but then surprises the listener by not going for the typical antonym of "externally." it throws me for a little loop every time! and i figure it's on there somewhere later (i stopped the cd after "lady waters" - feel more CLASSIC "element of light" this evening, but i'm assuming "tell me about your drugs" is to be found later down that road. again: very funny, mr. hitchcock. as ever, lauren p.s. no feg suggestions for my 1-month break before fall semester (not that i asked) so i've devolved into being a "bones" fan. the plots are really pretty bad, but i love the relationship between the characters. the lab reminds a bit of my last job (not that i worked in the lab, but we were all nerds, just like at the medico-legal lab at the jeffersonian.) i.e. these folks are my people. and maybe distance *doesn't* make the heart grow fonder because, for the time being, with BSG on hiatus, starbuck is OUT and dr. brennan is IN...i just adore this character. naturally, since i'm completely preoccupied with myself, it doesn't hurt that dr. brennan reminds me of myself, which, now that that's out, it won't be a surprise that...starbuck - not so much. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:47:30 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: interview? On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:29 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > Carrie says: >> I had dinner with him once - he and Cynthia, a couple of other >> friends of mine and the SF DJ Fil Slash (KUSF) who is a friend of his >> and mine and engineered the evening. In SF in late 1990 at the home >> of a friend. I had just returned from 4 months in Poland and spent a >> fair amount of time in the kitchen with Cynthia talking about Eastern >> Europe. > > /girl:ON > > so was cynthia lovely and pretty, bright and smart, and all the things > one (i.e. i) would imagine a woman who robyn wrote songs about would > be? > She was human, funny, great to talk to - I've met Michelle but not had conversations with her but she seems equally easy to talk with, and a lovely woman. >> In the end it was a pleasant night, chatty and informal. Robyn ending >> it by asking of Cynthia: "do we have everything, including the >> weasels?" It was not interview-like but if I get a chance I'll dive >> in to my journal from the period and see if I wrote about the >> evening. > > meaning...you'll share with us, yes? yes! Give some time to locate the journal - I keep extensive journals/ sketchbooks and have to go through them to find the one from that night. > >> Didn't Randi talk to him on a regular basis? Or she knew him fairly >> well and interviewed him more than once? I am sure she has material >> if anyone is still in touch with her. > > /meta:ON > > there was some discussion onlist a few months back about whether > anyone had been in touch with randi. i believe the winner was miles; > he had been in most touch with her most recently (at least of those > that spoke up) (i believe he had befriended her on myspace and had > kept in touch with her a bit through that site.) > > although i should probably point out that my memory sucks. > > /meta:OFF > > since the list has been so >0% RH (god knows what *i'm* doing here), > perhaps i'll dig up the old journals as well. since i didn't actually > talk to robyn (at least during the time i kept journals), it's > unlikely i've any comments about conversations i'd had with him. or > if i do have such comments, it should be interesting figuring out why. > > on a serious(?) note, i can probably find some RH-related entries. i > bet a lot of them are some variqtion of "he's sooooooooooo cute. and > sooooooo funny. p.s. he's soooooooooo smart." also, i used to > occasionally write what i had dreamt the previous night, and sometimes > robyn was involved (n.b. NOT a sex thing since i, of course, loved > robyn for his mind and wouldn't waste any talking opportunities on > something as pedestrian as sex.) I have plenty of journal entries on various RH shows, visits, his walking down Haight and playing the guitar some afternoon while in town, record store visits, I mean lots of stuff. If their really is an interest ini these trips down memory lane. Might be interesting to collect our dreams/thoughts. I smell a book coming on... Be Seeing You, - - c ************************************** Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself. ************************************** ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #688 ********************************