From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #684 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, August 15 2008 Volume 16 : Number 684 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Misc. (no tiresome Hitchcockery) ["Stewart Russell" ] Re: Misc. (no tiresome Hitchcockery) ["Stewart Russell" ] Tour dates [Tom Clark ] Re: Tour dates ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Tour dates [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Tour dates [2fs ] Hourglasses ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Hourglasses ["kevin studyvin" ] Today in history ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Today in history ["Stewart Russell" ] Re: Today in history [2fs ] Re: is this thing on? ["Stacked Crooked" ] RE: Today in history ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Today in history [Tom Clark ] Re: Today in history [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Today in history ["kevin studyvin" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:13:02 -0400 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: Misc. (no tiresome Hitchcockery) 2008/8/14 kevin studyvin : > > Back in the punk rock daze I went through a phase of celebrating my > hillbilly roots (rhymes with "puts," not "shoots") which involved, among > other things, liberal consumption of both Big Red put and shoot have the same vowel sound for me. And Big Red sounds like an upstart version of Irn Bru, only nasty ass. Stewart - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:30:57 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Misc. (no tiresome Hitchcockery) I'm always learning new stuff from this list, e.g. that the FDA has listed Irn-Bru (which I never heard of before, btw) as a banned substance. Now I want some. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Stewart Russell wrote: > 2008/8/14 kevin studyvin : > > > > Back in the punk rock daze I went through a phase of celebrating my > > hillbilly roots (rhymes with "puts," not "shoots") which involved, among > > other things, liberal consumption of both Big Red > > put and shoot have the same vowel sound for me. And Big Red sounds > like an upstart version of Irn Bru, only nasty ass. > > Stewart > > > -- > http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:41:34 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Museums of experience It's a bit silly but: Has anybody else on the list noticed how the title of Orhan Pamuk's forthcoming novel is "The Museum of Innocence"? That just rings my bell every time I see a reference to it because it makes me think about (a) Robyn Hitchcock's "Museum of Sex" and (b) William Blake's "Songs of Innocence and Experience". (And wow! I had never connected up that Robyn Hitchcock song and that William Blake book before just this second; but it seems like a worthwhile connection, and I'm happy to have Mr. Pamuk making it possible.) J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:43:45 -0400 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: Misc. (no tiresome Hitchcockery) 2008/8/14 kevin studyvin : > I'm always learning new stuff from this list, e.g. that the FDA has listed > Irn-Bru (which I never heard of before, btw) as a banned substance. Now I > want some. I'd import you some, but all I can get here (apart from the very occasional can priced at >$5) is the Canadian version, which is missing caffeine and is consequently useless. A Hula Hoop sandwich (http://scruss.com/blog/2007/01/24/ladies-and-gentlemen-i-give-you-the-hula-hoop-sandwich/), Irn Bru from a glass bottle, and a fern cake has to be my favourite lunch ever. Ever ever. Ever. Stewart (1452 Artists / 953 Albums / 14637 Tracks / 33.4 Days / 59.28 GB) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:49:31 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Misc. (no tiresome Hitchcockery) On 8/14/08, kevin studyvin wrote: > > Something that made me giggle uncontrollably: > > http://www.mitchclem.com/mystupidlife/87/ That's good - my inner 12-year-old is giggling at the euphemism that is "Hitchcockery"...and thinking it's anything but tiresome... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:25:33 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Tour dates Just saw this as I was assembling a blog page for my ongoing Peter Buck encounters*: TH 08.28.08 - London, UK WE 11.12.08 - San Francisco, CA (Fillmore) TH 11.13.08 - Los Angeles, CA SA 11.15.08 - Chicago, IL MO 11.17.08 - Pittsburgh, PA TU 11.18.08 - Alexandria, VA WE 11.19.08 - Philadelphia, PA - -tc * http://peterbuckhatesme.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:43:45 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: Tour dates SA 11.22.08 - New York, NY (Symphony Space) - tickets go on sale next Wednesday. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > Just saw this as I was assembling a blog page for my ongoing Peter Buck > encounters*: > > TH 08.28.08 - London, UK > WE 11.12.08 - San Francisco, CA (Fillmore) > TH 11.13.08 - Los Angeles, CA > SA 11.15.08 - Chicago, IL > MO 11.17.08 - Pittsburgh, PA > TU 11.18.08 - Alexandria, VA > WE 11.19.08 - Philadelphia, PA > > -tc > > * http://peterbuckhatesme.blogspot.com/ > - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:54:14 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Tour dates Sweet. That'll be a nice 43rd(!) birthday present. :) Now go, said the Enchantress, and face your Manga: http://www.faceyourmanga.com Here's mine: http://sketchbot.blogspot.com/2008/08/face-your-manga.html - -Steve On Aug 14, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > SA 11.22.08 - New York, NY (Symphony Space) - tickets go on sale > next Wednesday. Steve Talkowski, Character Design | Animation Director Email stevetalkowski@mac.com | Web http://sketchbot.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:13:39 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Tour dates On 8/14/08, Steve Talkowski wrote: > > Sweet. That'll be a nice 43rd(!) birthday present. :) > > Now go, said the Enchantress, and face your Manga: > > http://www.faceyourmanga.com > > Here's mine: > > http://sketchbot.blogspot.com/2008/08/face-your-manga.html Yeah, I discovered this elsewhere, too. Here's mine: < http://www.flickr.com/photos/2fs/2762011774/> - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:23:09 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Hourglasses Here is a passage from "The Year of the Death of Ricardo Reis", by Jose Saramago, that strikes me as very, very close to something yer man Robyn would say onstage between songs: ...it was like watching sand run through an hourglass, an overworked metaphor which nevertheless keeps recurring. One day, when we live two hundred years and ourselves become the hourglass observing the sand inside it, we will not need the metaphor, but life is too short to indulge in such thoughts... A little filtering is needed, for instance Robyn would not say "an overworked metaphor which nevertheless keeps recurring"; but he might say approximately, "ah, that metaphor gets a lot of use, at some point it's not going to be as useful..." That bit about us becoming the hourglass observing the sand inside it, I could imagine coming verbatim from Robyn's lips. J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:06:25 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Hourglasses Good call, there! On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Here is a passage from "The Year of the Death of Ricardo Reis", by > Jose Saramago, that strikes me as very, very close to something yer > man Robyn would say onstage between songs: > > ...it was like watching sand run through an hourglass, an overworked > metaphor which nevertheless keeps recurring. One day, when we live two > hundred years and ourselves become the hourglass observing the sand > inside it, we will not need the metaphor, but life is too short to > indulge in such thoughts... > > A little filtering is needed, for instance Robyn would not say "an > overworked metaphor which nevertheless keeps recurring"; but he might > say approximately, "ah, that metaphor gets a lot of use, at some point > it's not going to be as useful..." That bit about us becoming the > hourglass observing the sand inside it, I could imagine coming > verbatim from Robyn's lips. > > J > -- > READIN 2.0 > http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:03:36 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Today in history The Beatles played Shea stadium! My future sweetheart and wife was there, she was -- took the LIRR in from Bayside. Video clip: http://ahistoryofnewyork.com/2008/08/the-beatles-at-shea.html J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:50:17 -0400 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: Today in history Great. So they're responsible for inventing arena rock. Whoop. The concept is so hideous that Blind Willie McTell foresaw its coming and left the planet six years before. - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:07:54 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Today in history On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Stewart Russell wrote: > Great. So they're responsible for inventing arena rock. Whoop. Well no - since it was "Shea Stadium," they're responsible for inventing stadium rock. Even worse. Of course, they should have killed themselves immediately upon becoming popular, so they weren't compelled to play to such large crowds, and surely they should have anticipated what would happen if bands played to large crowds. In fact, they should have anticipated their own popularity, and broken up beforehand. Hell - they should have aborted themselves in their mothers' wombs. And then the world would have been free of the plague of stadium rock - since no band would ever have become so popular as to have to play in stadiums if it hadn't been for the goddamned Beatles. (Not to be confused, of course, with the Beattles of Seattle.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:14:45 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: is this thing on? we're all too preoccupied with . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:44:21 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Today in history I thought it was pretty strange that Grand Funk Railroad broke the Beatles record in 1971 for Shea attendence. My fondest memories of Shea were watching the exiting NBC broadcasts of the AFL NY Jets and Joe Namath circa 1968 and 1969, as my hometown team the Detroit Lions were too boring to watch. Shea had some crazy winds and the food wrappers were always swirling. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:47:47 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: Today in history 2fs says: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Stewart Russell wrote: > >> Great. So they're responsible for inventing arena rock. Whoop. > > > Well no - since it was "Shea Stadium," they're responsible for inventing > stadium rock. > > Even worse. > > Of course, they should have killed themselves immediately upon becoming > popular, so they weren't compelled to play to such large crowds, and surely > they should have anticipated what would happen if bands played to large > crowds. In fact, they should have anticipated their own popularity, and > broken up beforehand. Hell - they should have aborted themselves in their > mothers' wombs. <...plus more.> sort of relatedly, i saw ``the dark knight'' last night and was wondering why ``indie'' directors given the big bucks and accompanying big audiences seem to escape the criticism given to musicians of similar fate - i.e. i don't hear any people grumbling ``sellout'' re: christopher nolan. BTW, i enjoyed the movie very much. heath ledger was as entertaining as everyone has said (for once, i don't think the brilliance of his performance has been exaggerated by his death.) i actually liked the first nolan batman better, though, if only for its (only in comparison) brevity. ``the dark knight'' packed a bit too much bang for its buck - by the last half hour, i grew tired of tracking the good guys versus the bad guys. which, now that i think about it, may have been part of the point. as ever, lauren p.s. re: the georgian conflict. one of my professors (actually, the one of most influence) is at home in georgia this summer. i'm hoping that he and his family have been safe throughout the attacks. - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:43:16 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Today in history On Aug 15, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Bachman, Michael wrote: > My fondest memories of Shea were watching the exiting NBC broadcasts > of > the AFL NY Jets and Joe Namath circa 1968 and 1969, as my hometown > team > the Detroit Lions were too boring to watch. Shea had some crazy winds > and the food wrappers were always swirling. It was always a special day when my dad would drive us all into Queens to a Mets game. I can still smell the combination of freshly cut grass, hot dogs, and jet exhaust. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:52:24 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Today in history - -- "(0% rh)" is rumored to have mumbled on 15. August 2008 12:47:47 -0400 regarding Re: Today in history: > p.s. re: the georgian conflict. one of my professors (actually, the > one of most influence) is at home in georgia this summer. i'm hoping > that he and his family have been safe throughout the attacks. It was pretty weird following that situation by reading both German papers and the NYT. While the US media (at least CNN and NYT) picked the Russians as the bad guys pretty early on, the German media started out by portraying the Georgians as the aggressors. There were even reports about ethnic cleansings in Southern Ossetia by the Georgian army. At this point the media here seem to agree with the US ones in that Russia went too far in its retaliation, but I think there's still the general belief that Georgia provoked the entire conflict. The only point I'm making here is that you can't trust anything you read or see anywhere. :-( - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:22:44 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Today in history > sort of relatedly, i saw ``the dark knight'' last night and was > wondering why ``indie'' directors given the big bucks and accompanying > big audiences seem to escape the criticism given to musicians of > similar fate - i.e. i don't hear any people grumbling ``sellout'' re: > christopher nolan. > > BTW, i enjoyed the movie very much. heath ledger was as entertaining > as everyone has said (for once, i don't think the brilliance of his > performance has been exaggerated by his death.) i actually liked the > first nolan batman better, though, if only for its (only in > comparison) brevity. ``the dark knight'' packed a bit too much bang > for its buck - by the last half hour, i grew tired of tracking the > good guys versus the bad guys. which, now that i think about it, may > have been part of the point. Went with my wife, who is perpetually complaining about my juvenile tastes and how much she hates these stupid comic book movies, and she was totally bowled over in spite of her own natural inclinations...of course then I had to piss her off spending the rest of the evening hobbling around mumbling "Did I...ever tell you...about my faatherrrrr?" It was kind of like the way I turned into Brad Pitt after seeing 12 Monkeys, but not as bad. Shame they won't be able to bring Ledger back for the next one - and they went & killed off Harvey, too. What's up next, the Penguin, or John Leguizamo as the Riddler? as ever, > lauren > > p.s. re: the georgian conflict. one of my professors (actually, the > one of most influence) is at home in georgia this summer. i'm hoping > that he and his family have been safe throughout the attacks. No communication? That can be scary. A co-worker of mine was in the Ukraine visiting family during that abortive coup when the army tried to oust Gorbachev. She said things were very tense the whole time and she was really glad to get back to the States. This time, of course, the shoe is on a whole 'nother foot. Best wishes. np Pierre Boulez/Ensemble Intercontemporain, Le Marteau sans maitre ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #684 ********************************