From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #672 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, July 30 2008 Volume 16 : Number 672 Today's Subjects: ----------------- I'm a born lever-puller [2fs ] Re: I'm a born lever-puller [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: so true [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: so cal fegs -- you okay? PLUS BONUS CTHULHU (really, how can you resist?) ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Wafflehead and other songs about that subject... ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: so cal fegs -- you okay? [Rex ] Re: Love Songs ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: so cal fegs -- you okay? PLUS BONUS CTHULHU (really, how can you resist?) ["(0% rh)" ] The Individuals ["Bri N" ] Re: Love Songs [2fs ] Re: So... [2fs ] Re: Generation gaps [2fs ] Re: Generation gaps [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Love Songs ["(0% rh)" ] Robyn tickets available for 28th August [Charlotte ] Re: Generation gaps [Carrie Galbraith ] Brian Epstein ["Jeremy Osner" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:07:16 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: I'm a born lever-puller On 7/29/08, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > but would you say that macca was more of a dilettante ? > john + george seem to get it > paul just seems to like it and knew when to use it > (and when not to over-indulge) If liking something, knowing when to use it, and knowing when not to overindulge is dilettantism, we need more dilettantes. Anyway: I don't see any reason to imagine McCartney's grasp of whatever avant-garde he indulged in or enjoyed is any shallower, or any deeper, than Lennon's or Harrison's. (Now Ringo...there's a man who knows the avant-garde!) I think it's a prejudice, the kind that imagines "intelligence" only and always manifests itself in a rejection of any convention, specifically in musical terms of avoiding melody, etc. (or being aggressive, loud, wearing black and talking about corpses and weaponry, and having lots of ugly-ass tattoos). Problem is (similar to what I said the other day regarding Lennon's pullback to a stark simplicity) it's much harder to write a good melody than it is to persuade most people that you're being all avant-garde...if only because the a.g being familiar only to cognoscenti, and being (by definition) harder to figure out and judge, it's much easier to get by being a poseur: at least half of the people won't know the difference. Kinda like: I remember seeing a series of Hallmark Cards (they may not have actually been Hallmark as such, but the idea: mainstream card company) trying to cash in on a brief vogue for the "weird" and "strange" (this may have been while _Twin Peaks_ fever was at its peak). They got it utterly, terribly wrong...although probably most people wouldn't notice the difference between the sort of weird that actually resonates to some sort of hard-to-name sense and the "weird" that's just trying too hard. In fact, this is where Robyn comes in: if all he did was write strange songs that randomly mention sea creatures, royalty, and lines with rhymes of random people's names, he'd be unlikely to have a quarter-century-plus career. It's because all of that stuff is in service to something - even if it's not always entirely clear what that something is - that his lyrics aren't just "throw the dartboard at the dictionary". Anyway: music critics generally seem to subscribe to this oddly macho notion of what "the artist" is: because McCartney's generally tuneful, because he's rarely dark in an overt way (in a less-overt way? often), because he comes off sometimes like someone's sensible older brother trying to persuade you that blowing up fireworks in the boy's room toilet at school really isn't a good idea, he's made into a simple, grasping, fatuous idiot whose only talent is writing sappy tunes (as if, for example, "Silly Love Songs" isn't *about* the fact that "silly love songs" are regarded as silly and stupid...rather than just *being* a silly, stupid song). I blame (as I do for most things - it's quite useful, him being such an asshole) Dave Marsh. lennon - avant garde is french for bullshit > harrison - avant garde is short for avant garde clue Snork! PS: Defending Paul doesn't mean I dislike Lennon - the notion that one has to choose is absurd. George was a pretty talented guy himself! Also: Ringo is a *brilliant* drummer - anyone who thinks he was just kind of middling is (a) probably not a drummer and (b) possessed of a couple of stale cinnamon rolls for ears. Ringo's one of those drummers who's not all that flashy...but he's incredibly distinctive. You can recognize his drumming almost immediately...and in fact, you can recognize almost immediately when another drummer is playing in a "Ringo" style. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:21:21 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: I'm a born lever-puller i agree in general paul is the most successful/ most popular member of the Fabs overall the others have had their spikes, but paul has regularly been more of a favorite he isn't afraid to be sentimental, or corny, or explore whatever strikes his fancy however - john's (and often george's) songs cut more deeply - and since many are not fans of this sort of artistic surgery - their music affects many (incl. me) more - even if (or because) it is more challenging and much of macca's (unjustly maligned) solo material seems much more au courant than JL + GH's . . .although than could again change with the times my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 7/29/2008 9:07:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com writes: If liking something, knowing when to use it, and knowing when not to overindulge is dilettantism, we need more dilettantes. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:35:07 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: so true On Jul 29, 2008, at 5:49 PM, 2fs wrote: > Amusingly, and relatedly, one of our long-time list-members just > found out > he was dead. Seems someone in some bureaucracy or other mistakenly > listed > him as deceased. He can chime in with the full story if he reads > this & > feels like doing so... > > (Come to think of it, though, he has been known to wear a strong > perfume, > and at times he never leaves his very small room...so maybe there's > something to it...) > Maybe he can tell us what IT is that sounds so great when you're dead... - - c "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. " - - Thomas Jefferson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:08:54 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: so cal fegs -- you okay? PLUS BONUS CTHULHU (really, how can you resist?) > p.p.p.s. and now that that's over, i really want to hear "candy"... > I know of two "Candy"s, neither that great - the Byrds' and Iggy's. I suspect you're referencing a different one...? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:19:25 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Generation gaps > Relatedly, I'm still amused by the way "grandparent" seems not to have > changed overmuch in decades...even though today's 65-year-old was born in > 1943, and (by virtue of stereotype, at least) was fucking in the mud at > Woodstock at 26 - not crocheting a tea cozy. Yet somehow, turn 65 and > you're > listening to Bing Crosby all day long. > Actually Perry Como, if you ask Neil Young... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:21:59 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Wafflehead and other songs about that subject... > And I am sure Lords of Acid *have* to have some songs about this subject, > right? Don't know about the Lords but what did y'all think Neil was talking about in "Bite the Bullet," exactly? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:31:42 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Generation gaps On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:45 AM, The Great Quail wrote: > I am not saying that it's so drastic it brings about a complete generation > gap; but when I visit certain friends my age who don't own iPods, stopped > buying any CD not put out by REM, and still talk about the 80s as if they > were yesterday -- it's quite a different vibe from hanging with the > millennial Facebook crowd at work, who by-and-large listen to a wider range > of musical genres, cannot imagine a world without the Internet, The latter being clearly superior, of course? Don't people tend to have a wider field of cultural experiences when-- that is to say while-- they are younger? By which I mean, some of those R.E.M. fans probably listened to a bit of Public Enemy back in the day, and today's ever-so-much-more-musically adventurous youth will probably, by the time they reach their 40's, have narrowed down their nostalgic music habits back to a few key acts as well (probably, from what I've heard, acts at least as embarrassing as ours were and are). As people get older, they get... well... older. Some of them even do so gracefully. > and look at > me blankly when I make a Hill Street Blues reference. One of those would stump me, too, for what it's worth. Dude, I hate my generation, too, but I just can't get a boner over the Youth of Today like you do. Issues, man... issues. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:37:38 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: so cal fegs -- you okay? On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > On Jul 29, 2008, at 12:13 PM, JBJ wrote: > > > i'm seeing some twitter updates about a pretty big earthquake down > > there. > > > > are you all alright? > All good. Felt it... first one in a long time... no biggie, though. Thanks! Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:56:34 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Love Songs > now i have to go find something in elizabeth wurtzel's ``More, Now, Again". > > say what you will about ms. wurtzel. she's an absolute RIOT. i mean, > without a sense of humour, i bet nearly O.D.ing on speedballs would > WAY more of a drag. > Now you got me curious. Will have to hit up the library for this one...I remember reading her first book (Bitch) but have totally blanked on the contents. Speaking of which, any fans of Karen Elizabeth Gordon in the house? I've been dawdling through Paris Out Of Hand the last few days and it's just crazy fun. Loved her stuff since I stumbled (well, not literally) across Intimate Apparel a while back. I'm not that interested in the various grammars except for the sheer drunken flow of her prose, but the fiction (and meta-) is like champagne. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:25:20 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: so cal fegs -- you okay? PLUS BONUS CTHULHU (really, how can you resist?) kevin says: > I know of two "Candy"s, neither that great - the Byrds' and Iggy's. I > suspect you're referencing a different one...? yes, it's true. it's another magnetic fields song, actually comes on the album proper just a few songs before ``jeremy''. it's on what i think is their first album; it's probably "wayward bus" but i always get that one confused with ``distant plastic trees'' (my CD has them packaged together (i.e. you can tell when the first one ends because there an extra five seconds of silence between songs) and it seems like one album.) this was before stephin merritt sang in the band (apparently, he hates or hated his voice) and there was a female singer. it took me a pretty long to even consider the album(s) in ballpark range of the others, but i've come to really like it (but, it's still way more lovable when stephin sings the songs.) as ever, lauren - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:29:37 -0700 From: Rex Subject: So... ...1) they're not really called "supermarkets" any more, are they? ...2) while ripping my copy of John Cale's "Walking On Locusts" to go in the sell-back pile, I noticed for the first time that the sticker on the front of what is surprisingly still the original jewel case is the only place where the title appears on the front of the release, and also that it actually reads "John Cale Walking On Locust". Weird. ...3) Right of First Fegly Refusal. I've sold the first installment of my collection ("A" through "Cal" or so), but it occurs to me I oughtta offer you folks first crack at my Robyn-related records (or indeed anything you think I might own). Let's say five bucks a pop. I have no list, but I'd rather have them go to good homes, you know? Love, Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:40:27 -0700 From: "Bri N" Subject: The Individuals I've been listening to alot of music from 1979-81 lately. I broke out of that. today I and am listening to the Individuals, an album released in 1982. What delight! Very much dB's Stands For Decibels and Repercussion, Mitch Easter family. Gene Holder produced it and played on parts of it while it was engineered by Mitch Easter around the same time he was doing Chronic Town. It's got this early sort of talking heads funk to it. I was teedering on not getting this, but am damn happy I did! Some good song writing matched with creative production and arrangements. - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:20:49 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Love Songs On 7/29/08, kevin studyvin wrote: > > > now i have to go find something in elizabeth wurtzel's ``More, Now, > Again". > > > > say what you will about ms. wurtzel. she's an absolute RIOT. i mean, > > without a sense of humour, i bet nearly O.D.ing on speedballs would > > WAY more of a drag. > > > > > Now you got me curious. Will have to hit up the library for this one...I > remember reading her first book (Bitch) but have totally blanked on the > contents. Eh... I recall reading a few excerpts someplace or other, and reviews etc. - but it seemed of the tedious (to me) "ooh I was very naughty! Isn't it thrilling?" school, so I never checked it out further. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:22:23 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: So... On 7/29/08, Rex wrote: > > > ...3) Right of First Fegly Refusal. Or as the French say, "droit du fegoir." I've sold the first installment of my > collection ("A" through "Cal" or so), but it occurs to me I oughtta offer > you folks first crack at my Robyn-related records (or indeed anything you > think I might own). Let's say five bucks a pop. I have no list, but I'd > rather have them go to good homes, you know? So you're feeling listless? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:30:41 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Generation gaps On 7/29/08, Rex wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:45 AM, The Great Quail >wrote: > > > > I am not saying that it's so drastic it brings about a complete > generation > > gap; but when I visit certain friends my age who don't own iPods, stopped > > buying any CD not put out by REM, and still talk about the 80s as if they > > were yesterday -- it's quite a different vibe from hanging with the > > millennial Facebook crowd at work, who by-and-large listen to a wider > range > > of musical genres, cannot imagine a world without the Internet, > > Don't people tend to have a wider field of cultural experiences when-- that > is to say while-- they are younger? By which I mean, some of those R.E.M. > fans probably listened to a bit of Public Enemy back in the day, and > today's > ever-so-much-more-musically adventurous youth will probably, by the time > they reach their 40's, have narrowed down their nostalgic music habits back > to a few key acts as well (probably, from what I've heard, acts at least as > embarrassing as ours were and are). As people get older, they get... > well... older. Some of them even do so gracefully. Hmm. I'm not so sure that's generally true any more. My impression is nearly the opposite: kids get narrowcast into media niches, and it occurs only to a few of them that they can look outside those niches. I think they're likelier, once they're beyond the dreaded teens/early 20s social insecurity quagmire, to feel comfortable being uncool (say), or looking beyond what they've been fed. The dif. the web makes is ease of access, mostly. It's still rather simple, though, to lock yourself into only your own preferred niche. (Funny how so much online junk is intended to steer viewers into things that are perceived as similar to what they already like, so they can be good consumers, rather than broaden their outlook. And by "funny" I mean, of course, "utterly predictable in a capitalist economy": good to broaden but only slightly, but introducing to a whole new area is likely to slow sales rather than bring them up. In the short run anyway.) > > > Dude, I hate my generation, too, but I just can't get a boner over the > Youth > of Today like you do. Issues, man... issues. Quail didn't seem particularly boneriffic on this one, to me. Incidentally, I'm not utterly cynical about Today's Youth - I think they're potentially open-minded, just that it's no longer as encouraged or expected as it once was. Probably has something to do with the rage for organization and competitiveness that afflicts everyone. When I was a kid, summer was full of long days of nothing much. Oh, you might have played on a baseball team or something, but that was once maybe twice a week. My experience with contemporary parents suggests that the biggest challenge in their lives is scheduling themselves to accommodate their kids' incredibly detailed and convoluted activities - very few of which are at all free-form but instead are guided, coached, organized, enrolled, and otherwise supervised. God forbid a kid have actual free time (spent w/Gameboy anyway)... Also: get the hell offa my lawn. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Generation gaps On Tue, 7/29/08, kevin studyvin wrote: > > Relatedly, I'm still amused by the way "grandparent" seems not to > > have changed overmuch in decades...even though today's 65-year-old > > was born in 1943, and (by virtue of stereotype, at least) was > > fucking in the mud at Woodstock at 26 - not crocheting a tea cozy. > > Yet somehow, turn 65 and you're listening to Bing Crosby all day > > long. > > Actually Perry Como, if you ask Neil Young... Billy Idol, if you ask John Lydon.... "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:27:52 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: Love Songs kevin says: >> >> now i have to go find something in elizabeth wurtzel's ``More, Now, >> Again". >> >> say what you will about ms. wurtzel. she's an absolute RIOT. i mean, >> without a sense of humour, i bet nearly O.D.ing on speedballs would >> WAY more of a drag. > > > Now you got me curious. Will have to hit up the library for this one...I > remember reading her first book (Bitch) but have totally blanked on the > contents. incidentally, her first book was actually ``prozac nation''; ``bitch'' was her second. ``more, now, again'' is sort of a memoir of what was going on during the time she was writing ''bitch'' (i didn't read ``bitch'' until after i had read ``more, now, again'' (which made me really interested in seeing what the frak would have come out of the period of time she describes in ``more, now, again'' .) obviously, i don't know you that well, but FWIW, if i had to guess who on the list would like elizabeth's wurtzel's writing, it would be you. i imagine she bugs the hell out of a lot of people - she's self-indulgent, spoiled, completely self-preoccupied, and kind of a trainwreck. but on the plus side, she doesn't kid herself - she knows what she is (especially as she's gotten older) and i highly respect that trait. and she's insightful, smart, and has good taste in music, movies, and books. oh, and this is a small thing, but she starts each chapter with a quote from some author or singer, and, boy, can she pick them. i really love quotations, and can pick them pretty well, but she's got a gift for it. I'll quote something from the book (which of course cracked me up.) The setup is that our Lizzie is down in Florida working on "Bitch", kind of, but mostly she's just starting what's to become a major Ritalin and speed addiction. At at rate, she has some relatives down there: a cousin, Lewis, who lives nearby with his wife and two middle-school aged daughters, and goes to dinner there occasionally. ``She [Lewis' wife, who is Chinese] converted to Judaism, they got married on a boat, now they've got two girls born less than a year apart, with that interesting mix of Asian and Jewish genes that has made them both boringly obedient. They clear the table without being asked to, they get good grades without being pushed, but I can't stand that they are eleven and twelve and still such good-goodies. They sing in the Hebrew school choir. They are hall monitors. "Why don't you listen to Marilyn Manson?" I ask. "When I was your age I listened to the Sex Pistols and Patti Smith. I gave my friends older brother blow jobs. I snuck out of the house in high-heeled shoes and tight Sasson jeans. Don't yo ever want to misbehave? Just a little bit?" I encourage them to throw their bikes down the stairs and talk back to their parents. They don't answer me. They just go back to reading _The Babysitters Club_ books and watching the Cartoon Network, and generally disappointing me with their lack of subversive curiosity. Then again, they are happy and I am not."  E. Wurtzel, "More, Now, Again." (2002) xo lauren p.s. i should probably point out that the book *is* about addiction, so it's not like you'll find it in the comedy section. And, yes, the gal is really very funny (she well knows how she is, on many level, quite ridiculous), but, at the same time, she writes very honestly about her struggle with depression and addiction and i think she has something to say that can help others in similar struggles. NP: lennon, ``gimme some truth'' - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:40:37 +0000 From: Charlotte Subject: Robyn tickets available for 28th August Fegs, I'm forsaking a Robyn show in favour of a walking holiday with someone whom I suspect has no idea just how much that signifies ;-) So... I have two tickets spare for Robyn and Big Star on 28th August at Shepherds Bush Empire. If anyone would like them, please get in touch offlist. Charlotte ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:04:00 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: so true Whatever it is, it sounds dodgy now... c* (I'm probably dead, but you wouldn't know it to look at me...) On 30/07/2008, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 5:49 PM, 2fs wrote: > > Amusingly, and relatedly, one of our long-time list-members just > > found out > > he was dead. Seems someone in some bureaucracy or other mistakenly > > listed > > him as deceased. He can chime in with the full story if he reads > > this & > > feels like doing so... > > > > (Come to think of it, though, he has been known to wear a strong > > perfume, > > and at times he never leaves his very small room...so maybe there's > > something to it...) > > > > Maybe he can tell us what IT is that sounds so great when you're dead... > - c > > > "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good > conscience to remain silent. " > - Thomas Jefferson > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:17:42 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Generation gaps On Jul 29, 2008, at 9:30 PM, 2fs wrote: > Incidentally, I'm not utterly cynical about Today's Youth - I think > they're > potentially open-minded, just that it's no longer as encouraged or > expected > as it once was. Probably has something to do with the rage for > organization > and competitiveness that afflicts everyone. When I was a kid, > summer was > full of long days of nothing much. Oh, you might have played on a > baseball > team or something, but that was once maybe twice a week. My > experience with > contemporary parents suggests that the biggest challenge in their > lives is > scheduling themselves to accommodate their kids' incredibly > detailed and > convoluted activities - very few of which are at all free-form but > instead > are guided, coached, organized, enrolled, and otherwise supervised. > God > forbid a kid have actual free time (spent w/Gameboy anyway)... > Well, I'm around a lot of "today's youth" from nieces and nephews to many college students and I find a lot of their views refreshing. I rarely see homophobia, racism, sexism or class issues with the students I deal with day-to-day. I trade music with them, talk shop about video games and, to some extent film, although it is sad how woefully ignorant most young Americans are of cinema history due to the complete lack of Rep Houses in America anymore. (That's where I got my history of cinema lessons). Since I don't own a TV, I miss the Simpson's references but hey, that's OK, for them and me. One thing I've noticed is what seems to me to be an ambivalence in sexual decisions. The disregard of which gender or race one decides to date/sleep with/live with is something I get pretty strong in the young 20 something air these days. I like it! But the one thing I find shocking, given the advances and breakthroughs since I was a 20-something, is how many young people smoke cigarettes. Dope? They can take it or leave it . But a good 1/2 to 3/4s of my young friends smoke. And drink. A lot. I didn't even start drinking alcohol until I was 30. It was my parent's generation's "crutch" so I eschewed it big time. I was more into mid- altering type of fun anyway. But I see it so much these days it surprises me. When I was teaching study abroad I had to deal with alcohol poisoning in more than one instance. I'm a child of the 60s and 70s but I spent my summers (my choice) in summer school, camp, arts & crafts after school drop-ins, Girl Scouts, civic volunteer activities, swim team, girl's softball, etc.. And since my folks worked, I walked or biked to these things. My parents signed off on the permission slips that I carried with me to the event. I was expected to be responsible for making good on my decisions to participate in these activities - not for my parents to reorganize their schedules to make sure I attended. That seems to be the difference. And none of this prevented free time - there seemed to be plenty of library time, Capture the Flag and sit upside down in the chair with your bare feet facing the swamp cooler in my summers. One thing I have noticed is that my students love to hear my stories of street theater, pranks, urban adventuring, culture jamming and the like. If there is one hit I do get from these young folks is they don't feel as if they can do whatever they have a mind to do IF it steps outside the boundaries of what the authorities say is acceptable. Drinking, smoking? OK. But altering billboards? They find it a bit daunting. Whereas we never gave it a thought. We just had a point to make, or an idea, or a good sense of humor, or free time. Is this a post 9/11 media-fear-driven inhibition? I think so, sadly enough. Oops, I got wordy again. Damn my night owl tendencies. And where's my blog??? - - c ************************************** Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself. ************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:01:04 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Brian Epstein The unidentified trax (12 and 18) on the recording from The Turning Point a coupla weeks ago are both (so Robyn alleges) from the soundtrack of a forthcoming movie about the life of Brian Epstein. Anybody have any more data about this? Also: I am very happy to hear "Mr. Kennedy" and "Full Moon in my Soul" on that tape -- these are two of my favorites that I don't think I've heard live yet. (Well maybe Mr. Kennedy was on the Soft Boys WFMU tape - -- not sure -- something kind of put me off about that tape and I did not listen to it very closely.) J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #672 ********************************