From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #668 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, July 28 2008 Volume 16 : Number 668 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Whine, gripe, etc. ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Whine, gripe, etc. [Rex ] REAP-a-go-go [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] RE: REAP : EMI + Rolling Stones and the 'mats ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: REAP [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: REAP [2fs ] REAP [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: REAP ["kevin studyvin" ] Love Songs ["Jeremy Osner" ] RE: REAP ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: REAP ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: REAP [craigie* ] Re: REAP [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Love Songs [Poem Lover ] Re: Love Songs [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: REAP [Christopher Gross ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:57:12 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Whine, gripe, etc. Got The Vinyl Cafe on the radio. Stuart's doing an all-covers show and he says OK, now we're going to end the show with one of my favorite cover tunes - - Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" - at which point my little ears perk up and I go Oh boy, this is gonna rock! Cale in da house! - and of course he goes and puts on Jeff Buckley's version. Not a defining moment in my life there, Stuart. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:32:37 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Whine, gripe, etc. On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:57 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > Got The Vinyl Cafe on the radio. Stuart's doing an all-covers show and he > says OK, now we're going to end the show with one of my favorite cover > tunes > - Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" - at which point my little ears perk up and > I > go Oh boy, this is gonna rock! Cale in da house! - and of course he goes > and > puts on Jeff Buckley's version. Not a defining moment in my life there, > Stuart. Seriously. Your pain is felt. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 02:19:55 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP-a-go-go Brooks Jones, Father of Summerfare, Is Dead at 73 Bruce Adler, Actor With Yiddish Roots, Is Dead at 63 Youssef Chahine, Egyptian Filmmaker, Dies at 82 Larry Haines, a Star of bSearch for Tomorrowb, Is Dead at 89 Roger Hall, a Spy With a Sense of Humor, Is Dead at 89 my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:38:32 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: REAP : EMI + Rolling Stones and the 'mats On 7/25/08, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: >> >> The Rolling Stones Leave EMI For Universal >> >> >> >> http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id >> =1003831 >> 851 >> >> my blog is "Yer Blog" >> http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ >> http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> >> >> **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for >> FanHouse Fantasy Football today. >> (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) >Oh boy! Here comes yet another round of re-issues and re-packages...which reminds me, how long's it been since >the last time Bowie switched labels and re-issued his entire back catalog? I've lost count. Keith's late 80's solo album Talk Is Cheap was released (or maybe it was actually a re-release) on cd recently. There's a few tracks on it that I've always liked. I can't say that about any other RS related album in the last 20 years. I may pop for some of the Replacements deluxe reissues this year. They might be the next most likely 80's group to reform. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:58:01 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: kid from Nirvana's Nevermind album cover today kid from Nirvana's Nevermind album cover today http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92833535&sc=nl&cc=mn-0727 2008 my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:14:08 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP Say So Long to an Old Companion: Cassette Tapes http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/business/media/28cassette.html?ref=arts By ANDREW ADAM NEWMAN Published: July 28, 2008 There was a funeral the other day in the Midtown offices of Hachette, the book publisher, to mourn the passing of what it called a bdear friend.b Nobody had actually died, except for a piece of technology, the cassette tape. Hachettebs audio department recently held a bfuneralb for cassette tapes; an invitation is above. While the cassette was dumped long ago by the music industry, it has lived on among publishers of audio books. Many people prefer cassettes because they make it easy to pick up in the same place where the listener left off, or to rewind in case a certain sentence is missed. For Hachette, however, demand had slowed so much that it released its last book on cassette in June, with b Sail,b a novel by James Patterson and Howard Roughan. The funeral at Hachette b an office party in the audio-book department b mirrored the broader demise of cassettes, which gave vinyl a run for its money before being eclipsed by the compact disc. (The CD, too, is in rapid decline, thanks to Internet music stores, but that is a different story.) Cassettes have limped along for some time, partly because of their usefulness in recording conversations or making a tape of favorite songs, say, for a girlfriend. But sales of portable tape players, which peaked at 18 million in 1994, sank to 480,000 in 2007, according to the Consumer Electronics Association. The group predicts that sales will taper to 86,000 in 2012. bI bet you would be hard pressed to find a household in the U.S. that doesnb t have at least a couple cassette tapes hanging around,b said Shawn DuBravac, an economist with the Consumer Electronics Association. Even if publishers of music and audio books stopped using cassettes entirely, people would still shop for tape players because of bthe huge libraries of legacy content consumers have kept,b he said. As long as people keep mix tapes from a high-school sweetheart up in the attic, Mr. DuBravac said, there will still be the urge to hear them. bPeople have a tremendous amount of installed content and an innate curiosity when coming across a box of tapes to say, bHey, whatbs on these?b b he said. The tapes started to really take off in 1979, the year that a radical new cassette player b the Sony Walkman b was introduced, enabling people to listen to Donna Summer and the Knackbs bMy Sharonab while they were jogging (remember jogging?). The heft of the early Walkman b slightly smaller and lighter than a brick b is comical by todaybs wispy iPod standards, but during the Carter administration it seemed sleek. Nowadays, listening to music on cassettes is a dying pastime. None of Billboardbs Top 10 albums last week were issued on cassette, though half were released on vinyl, which has been resurging. Last year, only 400,000 music tapes were sold, representing one-tenth of 1 percent of all physical and digital music sales, according to the Recording Industry Association of America. In 1997, the figure was 173 million, and that was when cassettes were already getting a drubbing by CDs. (The iPod wasnbt introduced until 2001.) bI would not expect to see a revival of cassettes like webve seen in the LP market,b Mr. DuBravac said. While vinyl records have always been prized artifacts for their devotees, the plastic cassette tape has little sex appeal. Such was the case for the eight-track format as well, which was popular in the late 1960s and b70s. It died relatively quickly with the advent of cassettes because eight-tracks were not widely used for personal recording or mix tapes, Mr. DuBravac said. While the chances of finding cassette players in a dorm room today are slim, they are still available for sale: on Amazon, Sony alone offers 23 tape players, from the Walkman to boomboxes. Popping a cassette in the car tape deck is also passC). Only 4 percent of vehicles sold in the United States during the 2007 model year had factory-installed cassette players, according to Wardbs Automotive Yearbook. As recently as the 2005 model year, 23 percent of vehicles had them. Given that the median age of a car in the United States is nine years old, said Alan K. Binder, the editor of Wardbs yearbook, it is most likely that the majority of the 200 million cars and light trucks on Americabs roads have cassette players (though how many have had the same Bob Seger tape lodged unplayable in them for 11 years is impossible to determine). Cassette tapesb tendency to hiss b and to melt in the summer and snap in the winter b turns off audiophiles. But for audio books, the cassette is an oddly elegant medium: you can eject it from your car, carry it home and stick it in a boombox, and it will pick up in the same place, an analog feat beyond the ability of the CD. Cassettes accounted for 7 percent of all sales in the $923 million audio-book industry in 2006, the latest year for which data is available, according to the Audio Publishers Association. While many publishers, like Random House and Macmillan, stopped producing books on cassette in the last couple of years, there are holdouts. At Blackstone Audio, which produces cassette versions of its roughly 340 annual titles, Josh Stanton, the executive vice president, said there was still demand from libraries and truckers, who buy them at truck stops. But he could forecast only that his company would produce cassettes through 2009. Recorded Books, whose authors include Philip Roth and Jodi Picoult, still issues cassettes of all its titles, roughly 700 a year. Retailers like Borders and Barnes & Noble have essentially stopped ordering them, but libraries have been slower to abandon them, said Brian Downing, the companybs publisher. The Web sites of Barnes & Noble and Borders, however, indicate that they still offer some cassettes, though publishers say the storesb buyers have expressed little interest in ordering more in the future. At some point, the cassette will go the way of the eight-track, Mr. Downing acknowledged, and his company will publish only in other formats. bI would guess it would be pretty much gone in three years,b he said. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:24:28 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: REAP Did cassette ever actually "give vinyl a run for its money"? My memory suggests that neither I nor anybody I knew ever bought an album on cassette when vinyl was available -- if you really wanted the cassette for walkmaning or something, you would buy the record and tape it. But I remember them being in stores so I guess somebody must have bought them. J On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:14 AM, wrote: > Say So Long to an Old Companion: Cassette Tapes > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/28/business/media/28cassette.html?ref=arts > By ANDREW ADAM NEWMAN > Published: July 28, 2008 > There was a funeral the other day in the Midtown offices of Hachette, the > book publisher, to mourn the passing of what it called a b dear friend.b Nobody > had actually died, except for a piece of technology, the cassette tape. > > Hachetteb s audio department recently held a b funeralb for cassette tapes; > an invitation is above. > > While the cassette was dumped long ago by the music industry, it has lived > on among publishers of audio books. Many people prefer cassettes because they > make it easy to pick up in the same place where the listener left off, or to > rewind in case a certain sentence is missed. For Hachette, however, demand > had slowed so much that it released its last book on cassette in June, with b > Sail,b a novel by James Patterson and Howard Roughan. > The funeral at Hachette b an office party in the audio-book department b > mirrored the broader demise of cassettes, which gave vinyl a run for its money > before being eclipsed by the compact disc. (The CD, too, is in rapid decline, > thanks to Internet music stores, but that is a different story.) > Cassettes have limped along for some time, partly because of their > usefulness in recording conversations or making a tape of favorite songs, say, for a > girlfriend. But sales of portable tape players, which peaked at 18 million in > 1994, sank to 480,000 in 2007, according to the Consumer Electronics > Association. The group predicts that sales will taper to 86,000 in 2012. > b I bet you would be hard pressed to find a household in the U.S. that doesnb > t have at least a couple cassette tapes hanging around,b said Shawn > DuBravac, an economist with the Consumer Electronics Association. Even if publishers > of music and audio books stopped using cassettes entirely, people would still > shop for tape players because of b the huge libraries of legacy content > consumers have kept,b he said. > As long as people keep mix tapes from a high-school sweetheart up in the > attic, Mr. DuBravac said, there will still be the urge to hear them. b People > have a tremendous amount of installed content and an innate curiosity when > coming across a box of tapes to say, b Hey, whatb s on these?b b he said. > The tapes started to really take off in 1979, the year that a radical new > cassette player b the Sony Walkman b was introduced, enabling people to listen > to Donna Summer and the Knackb s b My Sharonab while they were jogging > (remember jogging?). The heft of the early Walkman b slightly smaller and lighter > than a brick b is comical by todayb s wispy iPod standards, but during the > Carter administration it seemed sleek. > Nowadays, listening to music on cassettes is a dying pastime. None of > Billboardb s Top 10 albums last week were issued on cassette, though half were > released on vinyl, which has been resurging. Last year, only 400,000 music tapes > were sold, representing one-tenth of 1 percent of all physical and digital > music sales, according to the Recording Industry Association of America. In > 1997, the figure was 173 million, and that was when cassettes were already > getting a drubbing by CDs. (The iPod wasnb t introduced until 2001.) > b I would not expect to see a revival of cassettes like web ve seen in the LP > market,b Mr. DuBravac said. While vinyl records have always been prized > artifacts for their devotees, the plastic cassette tape has little sex appeal. > Such was the case for the eight-track format as well, which was popular in > the late 1960s and b 70s. It died relatively quickly with the advent of > cassettes because eight-tracks were not widely used for personal recording or mix > tapes, Mr. DuBravac said. > While the chances of finding cassette players in a dorm room today are slim, > they are still available for sale: on Amazon, Sony alone offers 23 tape > players, from the Walkman to boomboxes. > Popping a cassette in the car tape deck is also passC). Only 4 percent of > vehicles sold in the United States during the 2007 model year had > factory-installed cassette players, according to Wardb s Automotive Yearbook. As recently as > the 2005 model year, 23 percent of vehicles had them. > Given that the median age of a car in the United States is nine years old, > said Alan K. Binder, the editor of Wardb s yearbook, it is most likely that the > majority of the 200 million cars and light trucks on Americab s roads have > cassette players (though how many have had the same Bob Seger tape lodged > unplayable in them for 11 years is impossible to determine). > Cassette tapesb tendency to hiss b and to melt in the summer and snap in > the winter b turns off audiophiles. But for audio books, the cassette is an > oddly elegant medium: you can eject it from your car, carry it home and stick it > in a boombox, and it will pick up in the same place, an analog feat beyond > the ability of the CD. > Cassettes accounted for 7 percent of all sales in the $923 million > audio-book industry in 2006, the latest year for which data is available, according to > the Audio Publishers Association. While many publishers, like Random House > and Macmillan, stopped producing books on cassette in the last couple of > years, there are holdouts. > At Blackstone Audio, which produces cassette versions of its roughly 340 > annual titles, Josh Stanton, the executive vice president, said there was still > demand from libraries and truckers, who buy them at truck stops. But he could > forecast only that his company would produce cassettes through 2009. > Recorded Books, whose authors include Philip Roth and Jodi Picoult, still > issues cassettes of all its titles, roughly 700 a year. Retailers like Borders > and Barnes & Noble have essentially stopped ordering them, but libraries have > been slower to abandon them, said Brian Downing, the companyb s publisher. > The Web sites of Barnes & Noble and Borders, however, indicate that they > still offer some cassettes, though publishers say the storesb buyers have > expressed little interest in ordering more in the future. > At some point, the cassette will go the way of the eight-track, Mr. Downing > acknowledged, and his company will publish only in other formats. > b I would guess it would be pretty much gone in three years,b he said. > > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:34:04 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: REAP i remember cassettes took over sales of LPs for a while, probably during the Reagan era . . . i only knew one person who bought pre-recorded cassettes she got rid of her turntable . . sometimes the cassettes played longer - like Talking Heads - Speaking In Tongues and The Cure -Standing On The Beach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_a_Beach my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 7/28/2008 10:25:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, anacreon@gmail.com writes: Did cassette ever actually "give vinyl a run for its money"? My memory suggests that neither I nor anybody I knew ever bought an album on cassette when vinyl was available -- if you really wanted the cassette for walkmaning or something, you would buy the record and tape it. But I remember them being in stores so I guess somebody must have bought them. **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:37:31 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: REAP On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > Did cassette ever actually "give vinyl a run for its money"? My memory > suggests that neither I nor anybody I knew ever bought an album on > cassette when vinyl was available -- if you really wanted the cassette > for walkmaning or something, you would buy the record and tape it. But > I remember them being in stores so I guess somebody must have bought > them. You have to be the right age: for a few years in the early '80s, cassettes were the dominant medium. Never among audiophiles, to be sure - but the popularity of the cassette Walkman, and cassettes' greater portability, meant that a lot of college & high-school students bought music exclusively on cassette. That pretty much stopped dead when CDs were introduced - but yeah, for a few years, cassettes were king. (I was amused - or confused - by the "remember jogging?" thing: apparently we call it "running" now although I think when you see those folks puffing along it's not like you can tell the difference...) > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:38:20 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP robin quivers + jim flourentine's relationship (Stern show) my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:46:53 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: REAP > sometimes the cassettes played longer - > like Talking Heads - Speaking In Tongues > and The Cure -Standing On The Beach > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_a_Beach > > Ayup, & there are a couple extra tracks on the cassette version of Disintegration that don't appear on either the vinyl or CD iterations far as I know. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:46:50 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Love Songs Does anybody else sing about love with the degree of insight and meaning to be found in (off the top of my head) "I Feel Beautiful", "Arms of Love", "Heaven", every track on "Perspex Island", "Heliotrope" etc? I would be interested in listening to their stuff. I was going through my record collection looking for love songs and having trouble finding much that really moves me like Robyn Hitchcock's work. J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:46:35 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: REAP - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Osner Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:24 AM To: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Cc: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: Re: REAP >Did cassette ever actually "give vinyl a run for its money"? My memory suggests that neither I nor anybody I knew ever >bought an album on cassette when vinyl was available -- if you really wanted the cassette for walkmaning or something, >you would buy the record and tape it. But I remember them being in stores so I guess somebody must have bought them. I bought a couple, Peter Gabriel's "So" in 1986 when it was first released, I think was the last one. Bruce's "The River" six years before that. I think that's all. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:49:40 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Re: REAP The only record I can remember buying on cassette was Michael Jackson's "Dangerous", which purchase I remember more for the sheer wrong-headedness of it than anything else. Jeremy On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Jeremy Osner > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:24 AM > To: HwyCDRrev@aol.com > Cc: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org > Subject: Re: REAP > >>Did cassette ever actually "give vinyl a run for its money"? My memory > suggests that neither I nor anybody I knew ever >bought an album on > cassette when vinyl was available -- if you really wanted the cassette > for walkmaning or something, >you would buy the record and tape it. But > I remember them being in stores so I guess somebody must have bought > them. > > I bought a couple, Peter Gabriel's "So" in 1986 when it was first > released, I think was the last one. Bruce's "The River" six years before > that. I think that's all. > > Michael B. > > > - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:55:52 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: REAP Not forgetting such transparent marketing ploys as 'cassette-only' releases... the BEF's 'Music For Stowaways' and David Sylvian's 'Index of Possibilities' spring unbidden... (hmmm, note to self: dig those two out and transfer them to CD...) c* On 28/07/2008, 2fs wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > > Did cassette ever actually "give vinyl a run for its money"? My memory > > suggests that neither I nor anybody I knew ever bought an album on > > cassette when vinyl was available -- if you really wanted the cassette > > for walkmaning or something, you would buy the record and tape it. But > > I remember them being in stores so I guess somebody must have bought > > them. > > > You have to be the right age: for a few years in the early '80s, cassettes > were the dominant medium. Never among audiophiles, to be sure - but the > popularity of the cassette Walkman, and cassettes' greater portability, > meant that a lot of college & high-school students bought music exclusively > on cassette. > > That pretty much stopped dead when CDs were introduced - but yeah, for a > few > years, cassettes were king. > > (I was amused - or confused - by the "remember jogging?" thing: apparently > we call it "running" now although I think when you see those folks puffing > along it's not like you can tell the difference...) > > > > > > > -- > > > > ...Jeff Norman > > > > The Architectural Dance Society > > http://spanghew.blogspot.com > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:28:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: REAP On Mon, 7/28/08, kevin studyvin wrote: > there are a couple extra tracks on the cassette version of > Disintegration that don't appear on either the vinyl or > CD iterations far as I know. "Last Dance" and "Homesick" were cut from vinyl due to space capacity, but were always on the CD. "Hey You!!!" was cut from the original CD of Kiss Me3 because they would only make 73 minute CDs at the time, but was reinserted with the reissue a couple years back. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:37:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Poem Lover Subject: Re: Love Songs Lately I can't stop listening to Snow Patrol, esp their album Eyes Open (I think that's the right title). lots of gorgeous love songs. Marcy - --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Jeremy Osner wrote: From: Jeremy Osner Subject: Love Songs To: "a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil!" Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 2:46 PM Does anybody else sing about love with the degree of insight and meaning to be found in (off the top of my head) "I Feel Beautiful", "Arms of Love", "Heaven", every track on "Perspex Island", "Heliotrope" etc? I would be interested in listening to their stuff. I was going through my record collection looking for love songs and having trouble finding much that really moves me like Robyn Hitchcock's work. J - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:17:03 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Love Songs i would say Syd Barrett's solo albums have similar themes - Terrapin and Late Night come to mind first, as well as most of "Madcap Laughs" my blog is "Yer Blog" http://fab4yerblog.blogspot.com/ http://robotsarestealingmyluggage.blogspot.com/ In a message dated 7/28/2008 10:55:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, anacreon@gmail.com writes: Does anybody else sing about love with the degree of insight and meaning to be found in (off the top of my head) "I Feel Beautiful", "Arms of Love", "Heaven", every track on "Perspex Island", "Heliotrope" etc? I would be interested in listening to their stuff. I was going through my record collection looking for love songs and having trouble finding much that really moves me like Robyn Hitchcock's work. J **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:16:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: REAP On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, 2fs wrote: >> Did cassette ever actually "give vinyl a run for its money"? My memory >> suggests that neither I nor anybody I knew ever bought an album on >> cassette when vinyl was available -- if you really wanted the cassette > > You have to be the right age: for a few years in the early '80s, cassettes > were the dominant medium. Never among audiophiles, to be sure - but the > popularity of the cassette Walkman, and cassettes' greater portability, > meant that a lot of college & high-school students bought music exclusively > on cassette. Not being an audiophile -- indeed having no idea what one was -- I bought a lot of cassettes in high school (1983-87), and didn't entirely stop until years later. I did buy some vinyl too. But cassettes I could listen to on my own boom box and later Walkman while moping in my room; whereas I could only play LPs on my parents' turntable in the living room, where anyone could see me and hear my music -- clearly an unpleasant situation for everyone involved. (The parental turntable lacked a cassette deck, but I did tape a few LPs by putting a boom box in front of the speakers, which actually worked better than you'd expect.) After I got my own turntable in 1987 I bought a lot more vinyl, but then cassettes made a mini-comeback during the time period between deciding to get a CD player and actually getting one. Albums I first bought, new, on cassette include Einstuzende Neubauten's Halber Mensch, most Clash albums except Combat Rock, Pink Floyd's Animals and The Wall, and Motorhead's No Sleep Til Hammersmith. > That pretty much stopped dead when CDs were introduced - but yeah, for a few > years, cassettes were king. In terms of numbers, cassettes and CDs actually shared the throne for quite a long time. In college only about half the people I knew even had CDs. When was it that CD sales finally overtook cassette sales -- 1993? Definitely in the 90s, at any rate. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #668 ********************************