From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #652 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 8 2008 Volume 16 : Number 652 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Uh, Dude... [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #651 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissues [Will Bue] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue [2fs <] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue [Rex <] Re: NEW on DiME: Robyn Hitchcock August 18, 1999 Tramps, New York City, NY [gaseous clay ] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue ["kevi] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue [2fs <] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissues [HwyC] haikus [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue [Rex <] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue ["Ste] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue [Rex <] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue ["kevi] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue [HwyC] RE: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue ["Ba] Bells Of Rhymney - WAS : Resequencing the YepRoc reissues [HwyCDRrev@ao] np Iannis Xenakis, Pleiades [The Great Quail ] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue ["Stew] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue [HwyCD] Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue ["Stew] am i the only one who's heard The Oholics ? [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] RE: Bells Of Rhymney - WAS : Resequencing the YepRoc reissues ["Bachman] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:00:16 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Uh, Dude... On Jul 7, 2008, at 1:40 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > p.p.s. i like songs about rain. and i love summer storms (nice > lightning story, eddie!) > Don't even start on summer lightening storms! My brother is defending his home from the fire that threatens to jump the break right now (he's lost one to a wildfire already in this life) and my friend Winston was forced to evacuate from the home he built himself 30 years ago and waits to hear if it is still standing. It's making for some real interesting sunsets through the smoke and all. - - c - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let us develop a kind of dangerous unselfishness." Martin Luther King Jr. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:14:40 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #651 >I tried for a while to come up with a good clip from one of Robyn's >songs but never found one that really hit. Suggestions? I'm sure I've suggested this before but the bassline from "I got the hots" would make a great ringtone. Re: Haiku - as I once wrote on my website: I wrote a haiku Sometime earlier this month It wasn't much good (for more, ) James PS - no offence taken, Rex - and still no sign :( - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Will Bueche Subject: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissues YepRoc's reissues of Robyn Hitchcock's albums have been really disappointing, imo. The problem is that rather than gather up the previous edition's bonus tracks -- which I will refer to as the "Rhino" bonus tracks since Rhino released the previous editions -- YepRoc has omitted some of the Rhino bonus tracks and kept some of the Rhino bonus tracks, and then added some generally unpleasant unheard-before bonus tracks. What they should have done was make each album a 2-disc set. Disc 1 would be the proper album. Disc 2 would be all the bonus tracks -- Rhino's & Yep Roc's combined. Unfortunately, we have to do this ourselves. Where some bonus tracks appear on both editions, I suppose it makes sense to use the new YepRoc ones as the source since chances are the sound quality may be better due to advances in mastering. Same applies for the albums proper. So, here is my suggestion for importing "Fegmania": "01" YepRoc 01. Egyptian Cream "02" YepRoc 02. Another Bubble "03" YepRoc 03. I'm Only You "04" YepRoc 04. My Wife and My Dead Wife "05" YepRoc 05. Goodnight I Say "06" YepRoc 06. The Man With The Lightbulb Head "07" YepRoc 07. Insect Mother "08" YepRoc 08. Strawberry Mind "09" YepRoc 09. Glass "10" YepRoc 10. The Fly "11" YepRoc 11. Heaven "12" YepRoc 12. Heaven End Bit BONUS TRACKS (combined Rhino & YepRoc) "13" YepRoc 13. Bells of Rhymney "14" Rhino 13. Dwarfbeat "15" YepRoc 14. Some Body "16" Rhino 15. Egyptian Cream (demo) "17" YepRoc 15. Heaven (live) "18" Rhino 17. Insect Mother (demo) "19" Rhino 18. Egyptian Cream (live) "20" YepRoc 16. The Pit of Souls (Parts I-IV) "21" YepRoc 17. The Drowning Church "22" YepRoc 18. The Man With The Lightbulb Head (instrumental) - delete? "23" YepRoc 19. Lady Obvious And here is my suggestion for importing "Element of Light": "01" YepRoc 01. If You Were a Priest "02" YepRoc 02. Winchester "03" YepRoc 03. Somewhere Apart "04" YepRoc 04. Ted, Woody and Junior "05" YepRoc 05. President, The "06" YepRoc 06. Raymond Chandler Evening "07" YepRoc 07. Bass "08" YepRoc 08. Airscape "09" YepRoc 09. Never Stop Bleeding "10" YepRoc 10. Lady Waters & The Hooded One "11" YepRoc 11. Black Crow Knows, The "12" YepRoc 12. The Crawling "13" YepRoc 13. The Leopard "14" YepRoc 14. Tell Me About Your Drugs BONUS TRACKS (combined Rhino & YepRoc) "-" Rhino 15. The Can Opener - delete, this song sucks "-" YepRoc 15. Sprinkling Dots - delete, this song sucks "-" YepRoc 16. Upside-Down Church Blues - delete, this song sucks "15" YepRoc 17. Into It - this song also appears on the album "You & Oblivion" so arguably it should be deleted, but the transition is really good, so, keeping it here. "16" Rhino 18. If You Were a Priest - (demo) "17" Rhino 17. President, The - (demo) "18" Rhino 16. Raymond Chandler Evening - (demo) "19" YepRoc 19. Bass (demo) "20" Rhino 19. Airscape - (live) "21" YepRoc 20. Lady Waters & The Hooded One (demo) - possibly delete, this demo kinda sucks "22" Rhino 20. The Leopard (demo) "23" YepRoc 18. Neck If someone could map their best suggestion for "I Often Dream of Trains", that would be nice! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:33:54 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue On 7/7/08, Will Bueche wrote: > > YepRoc's reissues of Robyn Hitchcock's albums have been really > disappointing, imo. The problem is that rather than gather up the previous > edition's bonus tracks -- which I will refer to as the "Rhino" bonus tracks > since Rhino released the previous editions -- YepRoc has omitted some of the > Rhino bonus tracks and kept some of the Rhino bonus tracks, and then added > some generally unpleasant unheard-before bonus tracks. Do we know whose decision this is? Not that it would make much difference in terms of what you think of it - but it may not be Yep Roc you should blame... > > "-" Rhino 15. The Can Opener - delete, this song sucks Nonsense - this is an inspired bit of silliness, including character voices, and is perfect bonus-track fodder. Why would you *not* want to have a bonus track? You can always not listen to it! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:23:23 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:33 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 7/7/08, Will Bueche wrote: > > > "-" Rhino 15. The Can Opener - delete, this song sucks > > > Nonsense - this is an inspired bit of silliness, including character > voices, > and is perfect bonus-track fodder. Agreed. For some reason this leapt into my mind a day or so ago, along with the awareness that Robyn had used the "limbo/akimbo" line once again on "Saint Parallelogram". Unfortunately, we have to do this ourselves. Where some bonus tracks appear > on both editions, I suppose it makes sense to use the new YepRoc ones as the > source since chances are the sound quality may be better due to advances in > mastering. Same applies for the albums proper. > Must be careful here... I know it's more properly documented elsewhere, but I've just casually noticed that sometimes the versions are different (and mutually exclusive) between the old and new comps without much/any indication of such-- "Thatcher"'s "Abandoned Braine", for example, is totally different from the Rhino "IH" version. I assume some of the same such things will happen with the Egyptians box. Also, I've never owned the Rhino "Fegmania!", I don't think; the original CD already had a bunch of bonus tracks, though. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 21:20:38 -0400 From: gaseous clay Subject: Re: NEW on DiME: Robyn Hitchcock August 18, 1999 Tramps, New York City, NY one time at band camp, gaseous clay said: > as i was headed out the door as i uploaded the torrent on thursday for > the long weekend, i didn't get a chance to mention that this is also on > the live music archive at i really should just stop writing. i hope people were entertained by my fail. +w ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:33:43 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Uh, Dude... > p.s. "rain" is way up there on my list of favourite beatles songs, but > i'd be hard pressed to name a top song (or even a vague top five.) > but odds should be at least even that it would on the white album. > and odds are very high it would be a john song. the one that comes to > mind right now is "i'm so tired." > > p.p.s. i like songs about rain. and i love summer storms (nice > lightning story, eddie!) > We'll assume you're down with "Rain Rain Rain," one of the neglected gems in Roxy Music's oeuvre and an all-time favorite of mine. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:53:57 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue > Also, I've never owned the Rhino "Fegmania!", I don't think; the original > CD > already had a bunch of bonus tracks, though. > A mixed bag. "Bells Of Rhymney" is nice but very close to the original Byrds track; "Insect Mother" is probably the best of the batch. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:01:58 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue On 7/7/08, Rex wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:33 PM, 2fs wrote: > >> On 7/7/08, Will Bueche wrote: >> > > >> > "-" Rhino 15. The Can Opener - delete, this song sucks >> >> >> Nonsense - this is an inspired bit of silliness, including character >> voices, >> and is perfect bonus-track fodder. > > > Agreed. For some reason this leapt into my mind a day or so ago, along > with the awareness that Robyn had used the "limbo/akimbo" line once again on > "Saint Parallelogram". > > Unfortunately, we have to do this ourselves. Where some bonus tracks appear >> on both editions, I suppose it makes sense to use the new YepRoc ones as the >> source since chances are the sound quality may be better due to advances in >> mastering. Same applies for the albums proper. >> > > Must be careful here... I know it's more properly documented elsewhere, > but I've just casually noticed that sometimes the versions are different > (and mutually exclusive) between the old and new comps without much/any > indication of such-- "Thatcher"'s "Abandoned Braine", for example, is > totally different from the Rhino "IH" version. I assume some of the same > such things will happen with the Egyptians box. Incidentally, I thought Box 2 wasn't to be released until next month - some folks getting it early (reviewers)? Anyway: the RH/SB discography is threatening to be nearly as complicated as that of The Fall...with its multiple versions of same tracks, microdifferences between various versions/mixes, etc.... Although I'd much rather sit down for a chat with RH than MES...with MES, I'd be fine as long as I was at a safe distance and, I dunno, wearing protective gear or something. Then again, he might just pass out and I'd feel obligated to drag him off the floor. Great story for the nieces and nephews - "Yes...MES weighed only about 90 pounds at that point, so I tossed him in a nearby shopping cart and wheeled him home to the seventeeth Mrs. MES. Quite the looker, she - never understood MES's appeal to the young ladies - esp. as by this point MES was 65 and toothless - but what can I say, when you have it you have it... Must admit, he was rather charismatic, even after his fiftieth lager in the midst of ranting about elves and journalists and bastard art students..." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 00:16:34 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissues just wait 7 years ! they'll FINALLY get it right :-D seriously, a great idea the costello rhino series was brilliant (yet not perfect) did you see this ? http://www.geocities.com/ned3705/rhino.html In a message dated 7/7/2008 7:27:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, will.bueche@yahoo.com writes: What they should have done was make each album a 2-disc set. Disc 1 would be the proper album. Disc 2 would be all the bonus tracks -- Rhino's & Yep Roc's combined. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 00:31:43 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: haikus http://www.pitt.edu/~blair1/spam-haiku.html (spam haikus) spell check says "Spam" is not a word !!! In a message dated 7/7/2008 7:26:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, grutness@slingshot.co.nz writes: Re: Haiku - as I once wrote on my website: I wrote a haiku Sometime earlier this month It wasn't much good **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:50:14 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:01 PM, 2fs wrote: > > Anyway: the RH/SB discography is threatening to be nearly as complicated as > that of The Fall...with its multiple versions of same tracks, > microdifferences between various versions/mixes, etc.... > Having just gotten notice today that Mercury Rev and Giant Sand have signed to Yep Roc, I figure they should snap up the Fall, too. Hell, they could probably manufacture and release "Imperial Wax Solvent" stateside without MES even noticing until they unpacked him for the tour. As for his laydees... didja know he married Ele(a)n(i)a Poulou way the hell back in 2001? Rock solid. And as we're on the topic, you knew this was coming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHwUW4twXTM Rex-ah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:06:11 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue kevin studyvin wrote: > > A mixed bag. "Bells Of Rhymney" is nice but very close to the original > Byrds track erm, you meant the original Pete Seeger track. Stewart (who saw Pete Seeger play last night in Toronto.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:08:57 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > kevin studyvin wrote: > >> >> A mixed bag. "Bells Of Rhymney" is nice but very close to the original >> Byrds track >> > > erm, you meant the original Pete Seeger track. > Yeah, but the Egyptians version isn't especially Seegeresque. Or Segeresque, for that matter... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:47:45 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Rex wrote: > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Stewart C. Russell > wrote: > > > kevin studyvin wrote: > > > >> > >> A mixed bag. "Bells Of Rhymney" is nice but very close to the original > >> Byrds track > >> > > > > erm, you meant the original Pete Seeger track. > > > > Yeah, but the Egyptians version isn't especially Seegeresque. Or > Segeresque, for that matter... > > -Rex But it does have that electric 12-string thing that I associate more with McGuinn than with banjo-pickin' Pete, ya see what I mean. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:44:25 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue wow - how is seeger doing ? how was the show ? i saw him with arlo + shenandoah back in the late 70s and got to say hello after the show! BTW it is close to the original Byrds arrangement of "Bells Of Rhymney", which is what the original poster meant, i think :-D here's more info on "Bells" : Idris Davies (January 6, 1905 - April 6, 1953), was a Welsh poet, originally writing in Welsh, but later writing exclusively in English. Coal Miner & Poet He is the only poet to cover significant events in the early 20th century in the South Wales Valleys and the South Wales coalfield and literally from a perspective at the coalface. He is now known mostly for The Bells of Rhymney, a ballad on the failure of the 1926 UK General Strike and the Great Depression in the United Kingdom and their effects on the South Wales coal mining valleys [1], set to the pattern of the nursery rhyme Oranges and Lemons that was set to music by Pete Seeger, and became a folk rock standard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idris_Davies In a message dated 7/8/2008 8:13:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scruss@gmail.com writes: kevin studyvin wrote: > > A mixed bag. "Bells Of Rhymney" is nice but very close to the original > Byrds track erm, you meant the original Pete Seeger track. Stewart (who saw Pete Seeger play last night in Toronto.) **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:10:01 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue Interesting, I never knew the origins of "Bells Of Rhymney" to back to the UK coal strikes of the 1920's. Another coal song: Kate Rusby's sad tale of a wife watching her coal mining husband age prematurely "My Young Man", is a most touching dirge. Michael B. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of HwyCDRrev@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:44 AM To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue wow - how is seeger doing ? how was the show ? i saw him with arlo + shenandoah back in the late 70s and got to say hello after the show! BTW it is close to the original Byrds arrangement of "Bells Of Rhymney", which is what the original poster meant, i think :-D here's more info on "Bells" : Idris Davies (January 6, 1905 - April 6, 1953), was a Welsh poet, originally writing in Welsh, but later writing exclusively in English. Coal Miner & Poet He is the only poet to cover significant events in the early 20th century in the South Wales Valleys and the South Wales coalfield and literally from a perspective at the coalface. He is now known mostly for The Bells of Rhymney, a ballad on the failure of the 1926 UK General Strike and the Great Depression in the United Kingdom and their effects on the South Wales coal mining valleys [1], set to the pattern of the nursery rhyme Oranges and Lemons that was set to music by Pete Seeger, and became a folk rock standard. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idris_Davies In a message dated 7/8/2008 8:13:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scruss@gmail.com writes: kevin studyvin wrote: > > A mixed bag. "Bells Of Rhymney" is nice but very close to the > original Byrds track erm, you meant the original Pete Seeger track. Stewart (who saw Pete Seeger play last night in Toronto.) **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:28:06 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Bells Of Rhymney - WAS : Resequencing the YepRoc reissues there's also this toe-tapping ditty there are great versions of this by Bob Dylan & Joan Baez (1975, live), and Johnny Cash DARK AS A DUNGEON (Merle Travis) It's as dark as a dungeon way down in the mine... SPOKEN: I never will forget one time when I was on a little visit down home in Ebenezer, Kentucky. I was a-talkin' to an old man that had known me ever since the day I was born, and an old friend of the family. He says, "Son, you don't know how lucky you are to have a nice job like you've got and don't have to dig out a livin' from under these old hills and hollers like me and your pappy used to." When I asked him why he never had left and tried some other kind of work, he says, "Nawsir, you just won't do that. If ever you get this old coal dust in your blood, you're just gonna be a plain old coal miner as long as you live." He went on to say, "It's a habit [CHUCKLE] sorta like chewin' tobaccer." Come and listen you fellows, so young and so fine, And seek not your fortune in the dark, dreary mines. It will form as a habit and seep in your soul, 'Till the stream of your blood is as black as the coal. CHORUS: It's dark as a dungeon and damp as the dew, Where danger is double and pleasures are few, Where the rain never falls and the sun never shines It's dark as a dungeon way down in the mine. It's a-many a man I have seen in my day, Who lived just to labor his whole life away. Like a fiend with his dope and a drunkard his wine, A man will have lust for the lure of the mines. I hope when I'm gone and the ages shall roll, My body will blacken and turn into coal. Then I'll look from the door of my heavenly home, And pity the miner a-diggin' my bones. ADDITIONAL STANZA RARELY PERFORMED BY MERLE TRAVIS: The midnight, the morning, or the middle of day, Is the same to the miner who labors away. Where the demons of death often come by surprise, One fall of the slate and you're buried alive. more info @ http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/parton/2/darkas.html In a message dated 7/8/2008 11:10:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com writes: Interesting, I never knew the origins of "Bells Of Rhymney" to back to the UK coal strikes of the 1920's. Another coal song: Kate Rusby's sad tale of a wife watching her coal mining husband age prematurely "My Young Man", is a most touching dirge. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:50:14 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: np Iannis Xenakis, Pleiades Kevin wrote, > np Iannis Xenakis, Pleiades Holy shot! Holy Coincidence, batman! As I was catching up on my Fegmail and reading your post, I was currently listening to: Iannis Xenakis, Pleiades. Damn. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:14:01 -0400 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue 2008/7/8 kevin studyvin : > > But it does have that electric 12-string thing that I associate more with > McGuinn than with banjo-pickin' Pete, ya see what I mean. Pete's probably as well known for his 12 string work (acoustic, admittedly) as his banjo. He picked it up from Leadbelly. Stewart (who would like an old Stella 12 string, but the price they're fetching these days - eek!) - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:25:34 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue shame on pete - he probably never had the opportunity to return it to mr. belly ! :-D In a message dated 7/8/2008 1:21:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scruss@gmail.com writes: Pete's probably as well known for his 12 string work (acoustic, admittedly) as his banjo. He picked it up from Leadbelly. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:37:10 -0400 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: Resequencing the YepRoc reissues into "Rhino & YepRoc" reissue 2008/7/8 : > wow - how is seeger doing ? Pretty good for 89. His voice is a bit shot, but the stage presence is all there. He did tend to charge into songs without talking to Tao [Rodriguez Seeger] and Guy [Davis] about what the key should be. It was touching to see Tao say, "Hey Grandpa, you usually play this one on the banjo/guitar in the key of ...", and Pete would go, "Oh yeah, so I do." > how was the show ? Fabulous. Local mandolin mad man Ken Whitely was on a few songs. Sylvia Tyson was the guest the night before. It was neat to see a bunch of ageing Yorkvillians [Yorkville, formerly the low-rent bohemian part of town, is now impossibly high-tone] tearing up while belting out "Where Have All The Flowers Gone?" Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:41:41 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: am i the only one who's heard The Oholics ? Their trippy debut cover of Pink Floydbs Lucy Leave, recorded in honour of the late, great Syd Barrett, only hints at the mind-?melting whump to come from the Oholics, as youbll discover when they preview their forthcoming EP (due in September) at the Dollar. http://www.nowtoronto.com/music/story.cfm?content=163498 little steven's underground garage (sirius satellite) plays it all the time it's pretty cool **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:07:45 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Bells Of Rhymney - WAS : Resequencing the YepRoc reissues There ia also a great version of DARK AS A DUNGEON on the first Will The Circle Be Unbroken boxset from way back in 1971. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of HwyCDRrev@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:28 AM To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: Bells Of Rhymney - WAS : Resequencing the YepRoc reissues there's also this toe-tapping ditty there are great versions of this by Bob Dylan & Joan Baez (1975, live), and Johnny Cash DARK AS A DUNGEON (Merle Travis) It's as dark as a dungeon way down in the mine... SPOKEN: I never will forget one time when I was on a little visit down home in Ebenezer, Kentucky. I was a-talkin' to an old man that had known me ever since the day I was born, and an old friend of the family. He says, "Son, you don't know how lucky you are to have a nice job like you've got and don't have to dig out a livin' from under these old hills and hollers like me and your pappy used to." When I asked him why he never had left and tried some other kind of work, he says, "Nawsir, you just won't do that. If ever you get this old coal dust in your blood, you're just gonna be a plain old coal miner as long as you live." He went on to say, "It's a habit [CHUCKLE] sorta like chewin' tobaccer." Come and listen you fellows, so young and so fine, And seek not your fortune in the dark, dreary mines. It will form as a habit and seep in your soul, 'Till the stream of your blood is as black as the coal. CHORUS: It's dark as a dungeon and damp as the dew, Where danger is double and pleasures are few, Where the rain never falls and the sun never shines It's dark as a dungeon way down in the mine. It's a-many a man I have seen in my day, Who lived just to labor his whole life away. Like a fiend with his dope and a drunkard his wine, A man will have lust for the lure of the mines. I hope when I'm gone and the ages shall roll, My body will blacken and turn into coal. Then I'll look from the door of my heavenly home, And pity the miner a-diggin' my bones. ADDITIONAL STANZA RARELY PERFORMED BY MERLE TRAVIS: The midnight, the morning, or the middle of day, Is the same to the miner who labors away. Where the demons of death often come by surprise, One fall of the slate and you're buried alive. more info @ http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/parton/2/darkas.html In a message dated 7/8/2008 11:10:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com writes: Interesting, I never knew the origins of "Bells Of Rhymney" to back to the UK coal strikes of the 1920's. Another coal song: Kate Rusby's sad tale of a wife watching her coal mining husband age prematurely "My Young Man", is a most touching dirge. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #652 ********************************