From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #649 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, July 5 2008 Volume 16 : Number 649 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #648 [joe cushley ] limerick / haiku [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] REAP: Pete Baker [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] REAP : Death Of A Clown [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #648 [Brian Hoare ] Died on the 4th of July! [Steve Schiavo ] djiniax-digest [djini@voicenet.com] all the demons of Hell welcome their beloved new resident [2fs ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #647 [2fs ] Odessey and Oracle (Revisited) [Steve Schiavo ] Re: djiniax-digest [Caroline Smith ] Your fellow Americans (or not) [Steve Schiavo ] Reap, God blessing America division [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: self-referential songs [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re:Alice [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #647 [Rex ] Re: RH content! [Rex ] Re: RH content! [2fs ] Re: RH content! [Rex ] Re: RH content! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] best ringtone evar [2fs ] Re: best ringtone evar [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: self-referential songs ["(0% rh)" ] Re: self-referential songs ["kevin studyvin" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:04:22 +0000 (GMT) From: joe cushley Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #648 On the subject of self-referentiality in verse... Out of lurk with a limerick... There was a young lady...tut, tut. You think that you're in for some smut? Some five-line crescendo Of lewd innuendo? I'm sorry, this is anything but. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:22:26 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: limerick / haiku speaking of limericks - here's a haiku by john cooper clarke : To express oneself/ in seventeen syllables/ is very diffic. In a message dated 7/4/2008 10:14:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, joecushley@yahoo.co.uk writes: On the subject of self-referentiality in verse... Out of lurk with a limerick... There was a young lady...tut, tut. You think that you're in for some smut? Some five-line crescendo Of lewd innuendo? I'm sorry, this is anything but. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:19:35 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP: Pete Baker http://www.allalongthewatchtower.dk/phorum/read.php?1,370463 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.dylan/browse_thread/thread/b0d9faf17a 6c1ba2/e26c05573cc34a3f?#e26c05573cc34a3f **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:34:28 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP : Death Of A Clown http://news.aol.com/entertainment/television/tv-news-story/_a/man-who-played-b ozo-the-clown-dies/20080703181309990001 **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:44:10 +0000 From: Brian Hoare Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #648 > From: "Stewart C. Russell" > > I like Fortran. And Perl. If anyone has to read it, you should've done > it right first time. Unfortunately the core of this code was written 30 years ago, without thought for future expansion. Over the years there have been a number of major additions made to the functionality. Now looking at it requires a sanity roll. Brian _________________________________________________________________ The John Lewis Clearance - save up to 50% with FREE delivery http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719806/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:36:24 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Died on the 4th of July! Jesse Helms, the filthy bastard. - - Steve _______________ Interaction with cosmic intelligence may be influenced by Penrose noncomputable Platonic wisdom embedded in Planck scale geometry. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:26:44 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: djiniax-digest Hi fegs, I just got back from ALA (the American Library Association conference, for the non-librarians among you) in Anaheim, and am catching up on all the feg-chatter that happened while I was gone. ALA rocked, by the way, despite my state's team losing horribly in the Book Cart Drill Team (and to Bjork's It's Oh So Quiet, too!). Until you've seen 15 librarians spinning carts synchronized-swimming style, you haven't lived. Anyway, Caroline - I read Black Postcards back in April - http://www.fegmania.org/archives/fegmaniax/v16.n577 A fun read, right? And by fun, I mean fake-schadenfreude-inspiring - sure, he's travelling the world, sleeping with Britta, but he's really *miserable*. Nope... still sounds damn good. For a different take on that time and milieu, read "I Have Fun Everywhere I Go: Savage Tales of Pot, Porn, Punk Rock, Pro Wrestling, Talking Apes, Evil Bosses, Dirty Blues, American Heroes, and the Most Notorious Magazines in the World" by Mike Edison. Bonus points: Imagine it is being read to you by Eddie Tews. And for Lauren, Helvetica lover: http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/070510.html I love Sheldon. I got the Glornak the Destroyer bumper sticker for when I get a car I like enough to decorate. Oh, and re: Where the Deep Ones Are, I saw a librarian at ALA with the cover of the more traditional version beautifully tattooed on her upper arm. Three guesses what her specialty is! My SO was very happy to hear of this title - at his bookstore, these will sell like fishy hotcakes. The gamers who have spawned are raising a bunch of kids who know far more about the Dread Cthulhu than they do that Jesus guy. Mostly caught up. Except to add that my Thinkpad, after 5 happy years, appears to have given up the ghost, forcing me to use the One Laptop Per Child laptop a lot more than I was. It's not bad! Slow, of course. I (stupidly) took it on a visit to a friend with a 3-year-old, who immediately took it to his heart, saying, "Is that my computer? That looks like MY computer! Mommy, Aunt Jeanne brought me a computer in her bag!" I felt horribly selfish, and had to sneak it into my bag when I left. Also, that's exactly how I feel when I walk into the Apple store these days (That looks like MY computer!) so I might be shopping for a Mac this time. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:42:17 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: all the demons of Hell welcome their beloved new resident REAP Jesse Helms <*http://tinyurl.com/5hemy7>* - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:55:48 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: RH content! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:57:57 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #647 On 7/3/08, Rex wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Stewart C. Russell > wrote: > > > > > Shades of > > > > We know a song that gets on your nerves (3x) } > > And it goes like this ... } ... ad infinitum > > > > I think my favourite self-referential song is Bernard Carney's "Here is > the > > Chorus", which starts like: > > > > Wire have "And the chorus goes... and the chorus goes... and the chorus > goes"... and I there's a similar King Crimson song of fairly recent > vintage. > Speaking of that Wire song, all the lyrics I've seen of it have the follow-up line as simply "Bah-bah-bah-bah-bah bang" - whereas I've always heard it as (and like it much better as) "Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah bang." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:23:02 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Odessey and Oracle (Revisited) Amazon U.S. will have the CD next week, it's already out elsewhere. There will also be a DVD. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:38:00 -0400 From: Caroline Smith Subject: Re: djiniax-digest On 3-Jul-08, at 8:26 PM, djini@voicenet.com wrote: > > > Anyway, Caroline - I read Black Postcards back in April - > http://www.fegmania.org/archives/fegmaniax/v16.n577 > A fun read, right? And by fun, I mean fake-schadenfreude-inspiring - > sure, he's > travelling the world, sleeping with Britta, but he's really > *miserable*. Nope... still > sounds damn good. Oh - sorry I missed that. That was around the time that we were getting our house ready to sell. I wasn't reading anything then. Have you seen "Tell Me That You Miss Me"? It's a good partner to the book. It shows the personalities of each band member in pretty much the same way Dean describes them (i.e., Sean really is that annoying). > > > For a different take on that time and milieu, read "I Have Fun > Everywhere I Go: Savage > Tales of Pot, Porn, Punk Rock, Pro Wrestling, Talking Apes, Evil > Bosses, Dirty Blues, > American Heroes, and the Most Notorious Magazines in the World" by > Mike Edison. I will check it out, Ms. Librarian. :P ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:42:04 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Your fellow Americans (or not) OK, you non-U.S. fegs can watch as well. Everybody must promise to not hit themselves in the head while viewing. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:48:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap, God blessing America division Jesse Helms is no longer befouling the area http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/topstories/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/ap_on_re_us/obit_helms "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:54:00 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: self-referential songs Stewart wrote: >I think my favourite self-referential song is Bernard Carney's "Here is >the Chorus", which starts like: > > I have a line of a song, it sets the mood it sets the time > I colour it with images, and maybe it will rhyme > Now it gains momentum, getting stronger on the way > The chorus is approaching and its what I want to say > Mine would be The Who's "Getting in tune" "I'm singing this not 'cause it fits in well with the chords I'm playing" ...and, of course, Hallelujah, with it's description of the chord changes at "It goes like this..." James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:55:43 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re:Alice Marc wrote: >James and Lauren were saying: > >> I sometimes feel the same way about my SO Alice. Hell, I've got a high > >> IQ, > >> but I can't keep up when her conversation suddenly swings from string > >> theory > >> to invertebrate anatomy to Lester Bangs to comparative linguistics to > >> geomorphology and backto string theory over the course of a minute or two > >> of > >> conversation. She leaves me bewildered and awe-struck. Though I'm a > >> sucker > >> for smart women, luckily, she also has other charms :) > > >okay, i already adore this woman. she is not on feglist...why? (for > >some reason, i don't find it a stretch that she's an RH fan ;) ) > > >you could double the new zealand feg forces!!! > >She also is sweet, a bit shy, and immediately likable. The visit I had with >James and Alice was ridiculously brief. Hopefully next time my schedule will >be A LOT looser. I would like to meet up with Nut and Bolt as well. Marc I'll pass that on :) And I really, really hope you can meet both Nut and Bolt, but I've a sick feeling in my stomach that it may not be possible. Bolt's not been seen for three days, and we've been having severe winter weather. If he's been caught outside and is injured... :((( James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:19:26 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #647 On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:57 AM, 2fs wrote: > On 7/3/08, Rex wrote: >> >> >> Speaking of that Wire song, all the lyrics I've seen of it have the > follow-up line as simply "Bah-bah-bah-bah-bah bang" - whereas I've always > heard it as (and like it much better as) "Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah bang." > I've heard it as "blah" too, but the uncertainty is probably why I left it as a fragment in my post. Blah is better. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:21:02 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: RH content! On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:55 AM, 2fs wrote: > > Wow, and you even linctus right to the appropriate page. Yes, I'm trolling for tomatoes. Thanks! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 21:09:21 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: RH content! On 7/4/08, Rex wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:55 AM, 2fs wrote: > >> >> > > Wow, and you even linctus right to the appropriate page. > > Yes, I'm trolling for tomatoes. > Yeah? With a mug like yours, none of the fine tomatoes in this one-horse town'll even give you a look. Dames here got better taste. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:42:01 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: RH content! On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 7:09 PM, 2fs wrote: > Wow, and you even linctus right to the appropriate page. > > > > Yes, I'm trolling for tomatoes. > > > > Yeah? With a mug like yours, none of the fine tomatoes in this one-horse > town'll even give you a look. Dames here got better taste. No doubt, no doubt. I was thinking I was doing nothing whatsoever to celebrate the 4th (all children elsewhere), but I had to go to the store and get the wife and m'self. And in my car was a peculiar Fall compilation called "A World Bewitched 1990-2000", and what should be the only track to play between home and Ralph's but "Light / Fireworks". Hard to believe that Mark E. Smith brought the only patriotism into my Independence Day, but there you have it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 23:03:44 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: RH content! Rex wrote: > > Wow, and you even linctus right to the appropriate page. > Yes, I'm trolling for tomatoes. Thanks! Boo. Make like the linctus, and "for cough". (probably works better with my accent than yours) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 22:33:15 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: best ringtone evar Not that I care, but...the second guitar part from Television's "Marquee Moon" (deedle-deedle deedle-deedle deet...deedle-deedle deedle-deedle deet). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:48:57 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: best ringtone evar - -- 2fs is rumored to have mumbled on 4. Juli 2008 22:33:15 -0500 regarding best ringtone evar: > Not that I care, but...the second guitar part from Television's "Marquee > Moon" (deedle-deedle deedle-deedle deet...deedle-deedle deedle-deedle > deet). You actually heard that one someone's phone? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 06:18:14 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: self-referential songs james says: > ...and, of course, Hallelujah, with it's description of the chord changes at > "It goes like this..." oh, that line kind of makes my heart kind of drop out of itself. rather like how one's stomach drops out on a fast, steep road. and, although i like most versions better than cohen's, he gets that line soooo right. and re: self-referential songs, there's one with a middle eight (is that what it is? that third kind of a song part that the beatles used frequently) that goes: "in this type of song / middle bits are so predictable..." or something like that ;) xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:02:14 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: self-referential songs Been bingeing on Harry Nilsson recently so this brings to mind his "How To Write a Song" with its helpful instructions like "If you write it on guitar place your guitar upon your knee / If you write it on piano don't do that," and of course the useful bits about not trying to rhyme anything with orange or silver. He was a treasure. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 3:18 AM, (0% rh) wrote: > james says: > > > ...and, of course, Hallelujah, with it's description of the chord changes > at > > "It goes like this..." > > oh, that line kind of makes my heart kind of drop out of itself. > rather like how one's stomach drops out on a fast, steep road. > > and, although i like most versions better than cohen's, he gets that > line soooo right. > > and re: self-referential songs, there's one with a middle eight (is > that what it is? that third kind of a song part that the beatles used > frequently) that goes: "in this type of song / middle bits are so > predictable..." > > or something like that ;) > > xo > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #649 ********************************