From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #643 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, June 30 2008 Volume 16 : Number 643 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fake applause, please... [Rex ] Re: Fake applause, please... [2fs ] Re: Fake applause, please... [Rex ] Re: Fake applause, please... [2fs ] Re: Fake applause, please... [Rex ] Devo vs. MacDonalds [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Devo vs. MacDonalds ["kevin studyvin" ] Report from your Lou correspondent... [Michael Sweeney ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:45:25 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Fake applause, please... So I'm doing this compilation project for my dad which is supposed to take the form of a fake live show... so I need fake audience noise to tie the whole thing together. Does anyone know of a good, free source of same? Many thanks, Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:02:46 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Fake applause, please... On 6/29/08, Rex wrote: > > So I'm doing this compilation project for my dad which is supposed to take > the form of a fake live show... so I need fake audience noise to tie the > whole thing together. Does anyone know of a good, free source of same? I was gonna say, nearly any live album ever recorded - but you specified *fake* audience noise. I suspect you could come up with that with a few pink noise generators, a couple of oscillators, and an upended paper cup to be crushed and then the whole thing fed through a giant reverb unit. Me, I'd take the easy way out and fake fake-audience noise by using real audience noise. (As to scale: I seem to recall that the live half of Pink Floyd's _Ummagumma_ seems to have been recorded in front of a polite crowd of 23 or so - stadium-sized screamers are easier to come by. Another source: TV shows and movies featuring audiences (real or cast).) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:32:39 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Fake applause, please... On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:02 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 6/29/08, Rex wrote: >> >> So I'm doing this compilation project for my dad which is supposed to take >> the form of a fake live show... so I need fake audience noise to tie the >> whole thing together. Does anyone know of a good, free source of same? > > > I was gonna say, nearly any live album ever recorded - but you specified > *fake* audience noise. > > I suspect you could come up with that with a few pink noise generators, a > couple of oscillators, and an upended paper cup to be crushed and then the > whole thing fed through a giant reverb unit. > > Me, I'd take the easy way out and fake fake-audience noise by using real > audience noise. > Oh, I'm gonna do that-- get a bunch of people together at my house and have them listen/react to it with mics on 'em. But that'll probably only do for the reaction from the "pit" or "first row", and the occasional scripted request. I was pointed to a pretty good source at freesound.org... I think that'll do. I had thought of plundering actual live albums but it sounds like too much damned editing, really-- we're talking about an 80-minute, 25-song "show" with songs from a lot of different sources, so I want the crowd stuff to be as consistent as possible. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:14:40 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Fake applause, please... On 6/29/08, Rex wrote: > > > Oh, I'm gonna do that-- get a bunch of people together at my house and have > them listen/react to it with mics on 'em. But that'll probably only do for > the reaction from the "pit" or "first row", and the occasional scripted > request. I was pointed to a pretty good source at freesound.org... I think > that'll do. I had thought of plundering actual live albums but it sounds > like too much damned editing, really-- we're talking about an 80-minute, > 25-song "show" with songs from a lot of different sources, so I want the > crowd stuff to be as consistent as possible. > "Discover the pure, clean sound of analog white noise. Does not loop." See? Google Ads are worthwhile. But remember: does not loop. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:42:02 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Fake applause, please... On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 2:14 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 6/29/08, Rex wrote: > >> >> Oh, I'm gonna do that-- get a bunch of people together at my house and >> have them listen/react to it with mics on 'em. But that'll probably only do >> for the reaction from the "pit" or "first row", and the occasional scripted >> request. I was pointed to a pretty good source at freesound.org... I think >> that'll do. I had thought of plundering actual live albums but it sounds >> like too much damned editing, really-- we're talking about an 80-minute, >> 25-song "show" with songs from a lot of different sources, so I want the >> crowd stuff to be as consistent as possible. >> > > "Discover the pure, clean sound of analog white noise. Does not loop." > > See? Google Ads are worthwhile. > > But remember: does not loop. We'll just see about that. If I record it, and then loop the recording, it'll fucking well loop! And like it! - -Rex > > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:43:30 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Devo vs. MacDonalds An Audities person picked this up. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:03:50 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Devo vs. MacDonalds What a nice story...also was encouraged by the link to the guerilla gardeners article. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > > An Audities person picked this up. > > > > - Steve > __________ > I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl > with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:30:31 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Report from your Lou correspondent... ...So, remember when -- during some semi-recent discussion of Unka Lou's "Ecstasy" -- someone (Kevin? A Jeff? Rex?) pointed out the ughness of the recurring jism / cumming / running down his legs references on it? (And, as much as I do luv that rekkid, I can't argue with that assessment...) I know I must be out of the loop on the latest re-releases of some of Lou's and VU's CDs...cuz Pandora just played for me what must be an extra track on "Loaded" -- a band version of the later-solo "Satellite of Love" (also the nickname of my first car, a '72 Plymouth Satellite, but...I know: off-topic). ...And, at the very end of the track, Lou deadpans (after the band halts), "I came." So...old, long-running problem, apparently... Michael "BTW, another excellent discovery via Pandora? John Doe's haunting 'Twin Brother' (w/Grant Lee singing on it)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the im Talkathon. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:44:11 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Report from your Lou correspondent... On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...So, remember when -- during some semi-recent discussion of Unka Lou's > "Ecstasy" -- someone (Kevin? A Jeff? Rex?) pointed out the ughness of the > recurring jism / cumming / running down his legs references on it? (And, > as > much as I do luv that rekkid, I can't argue with that assessment...) > > Nahh, I just opined that the "Possum Day" lyric seems to have been made up on the fly and I don't care for it - the guitar kills, however. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:37:33 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: Report from your Lou correspondent... Kevin wrote: >On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote:< ...So, remember when -- during some semi-recent discussion of Unka Lou's"Ecstasy" -- someone (Kevin? A Jeff? Rex?) pointed out the ughness of therecurring jism / cumming / running down his legs references on it? (And, asmuch as I do luv that rekkid, I can't argue with that assessment...) >Nahh, I just opined that the "Possum Day" lyric seems to have been made up on the fly and I don't care for it - the guitar kills, however.< ...Yepper, I remember that, too...but there was also some sort of "jism" debate (such as it were) sometime not so long ago... Michael "How did Carlin miss 'jism' as an 8th word? I remember it being elected the dirtiest word in some Vonnegut book (or story?) where a rocketload of human juice was to be shot into space to try and prolong the existence of the species (or something like that)..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the im Talkathon. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:20:16 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Report from your Lou correspondent... On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > Kevin wrote: > > > >On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Michael Sweeney > > wrote:< > ...So, remember when -- during some semi-recent discussion of Unka > Lou's"Ecstasy" -- someone (Kevin? A Jeff? Rex?) pointed out the ughness of > therecurring jism / cumming / running down his legs references on it? > (And, > asmuch as I do luv that rekkid, I can't argue with that assessment...) > > >Nahh, I just opined that the "Possum Day" lyric seems to have been made up > on > the fly and I don't care for it - the guitar kills, however.< > > > ...Yepper, I remember that, too...but there was also some sort of "jism" > debate (such as it were) sometime not so long ago... > 'Twas me, adding it as a caveat to my opinion that the album is on the whole pretty good. That said, if you look at the cover photo, it's fairly obvious that something's running down somebody's leg at that moment. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:12:17 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Report from your Lou correspondent... > Michael "How did Carlin miss 'jism' as an 8th word? I remember it being > elected the dirtiest word in some Vonnegut book (or story?) where a > rocketload of human juice was to be shot into space to try and prolong the > existence of the species (or something like that)..." Sweeney > Might be "The Big Space Fuck" from Harlan Ellison's Again, Dangerous Visions anthology (a whole 'nother topic, there). It was loads of fun watching George C. on the 1st SatNiteLive last night. It's been long enough since I've seen it I'd forgotten how ragged that first show was, and wha a monumental downer Janis Ian was. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:45:19 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: Report from your Lou correspondent... Kevin wrote: Michael "How did Carlin miss 'jism' as an 8th word? I remember it being elected the dirtiest word in some Vonnegut book (or story?) where a rocketload of human juice was to be shot into space to try and prolong the existence of the species (or something like that)..." Sweeney >Might be "The Big Space Fuck" from Harlan Ellison's Again, Dangerous Visions anthology (a whole 'nother topic, there).< ...It was definitely Vonnegut -- yep, "The Big Space Fuck" (lazy, post-posting fact-checking...) >It was loads of fun watching George C. on the 1st SatNiteLive last night. It's been long enough since I've seen it I'd forgotten how ragged that first show was, and wha a monumental downer Janis Ian was.< ...Hey, I thought Ian was fine (in a vintage, depressive-music way)...but Billy Preston sucked. And -- I'd heard they'd done this on the first few season DVDs, too -- didja notice that the old "audience descriptor" captions for commercial bumpers were all cut out? Either Lorne thought those little high-humor bits didn't work 30+ years later...or, someone warned him that some of those random captionized "victims" might later sue for years and years of repressed damages... Michael "The most depressing thing? The realization that Carlin was 'only' 38 back then (sitting here at 8 years older than that now)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the im Talkathon. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:11:41 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Report from your Lou correspondent... On 29/06/2008, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > I know I must be out of the loop on the latest re-releases of some of Lou's > and VU's CDs...cuz Pandora just played for me what must be an extra track > on > "Loaded" -- a band version of the later-solo "Satellite of Love" (also the > nickname of my first car, a '72 Plymouth Satellite, but...I > know: off-topic). > _________________________________________________________________ That Satellite of Love was also on the Peel Slowly... boxed set IIRC... I used it in a pop quiz many years ago, and marked anyone who had it as Lou Reed as being wrong. That'd be like saying an early Beatles track was John Lennon, or something... or just as lame... c* - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #643 ********************************