From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #640 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, June 26 2008 Volume 16 : Number 640 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re:covers [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] ["(0% rh)" ] Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: covers [Rex ] Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] [Michael Sweeney ] you misunderstood my misunderstanding [Jill Brand ] Re: you misunderstood my misunderstanding ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: covers [2fs ] Re: covers [Tom Clark ] Re: covers ["kevin studyvin" ] RE: covers ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: covers ["(0% rh)" ] Re: covers [2fs ] For the fegkids (and others) [Steve Schiavo ] Re: covers [Rex ] RE: covers ["Marc Alberts" ] Re: covers [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: For the fegkids (and others) ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: covers [Jeff Dwarf ] toe for toe, and oast for oast - toast! [Steve Schiavo Now there's a potentially fertile area for discussion. Cant think of a >worst cover off the top of my head, but my favorites include Zappa's version >of "Whipping Post." And does the "Louie Louie" from Metallic KO count? My worst would almost certainly be the cloying version of "Ticket to ride" committed by the Carpenters James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:37:36 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] jeff 2fs says: > On 6/24/08, kevin studyvin wrote: >> >> > i think whoever made "helvetica" needs to make "pencil." >> > >> >> >> Beware - you could be wishing another comic sans on the world! > > > > I think she meant "make a movie about pencils, called _Pencil_." > > If I'm right, it disturbs me that I can interpret Lauren Whatshername that > accurately... but that was the *easy* part. now what the hell is kevin talking about? xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:50:05 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: covers james says: >> Now there's a potentially fertile area for discussion. Cant think of a >> worst cover off the top of my head, but my favorites include Zappa's >> version >> of "Whipping Post." And does the "Louie Louie" from Metallic KO count? > > My worst would almost certainly be the cloying version of "Ticket to ride" > committed by the Carpenters now i have a huge soft spot for karen carpenter's voice, and that one even hurts me. there must be a ``worst cover ever!'' of ``god only knows''? xo p.s. to james: now, i know you don't speak for all of new zealand, but that won't stop me from acting as though you do. do you guys have hedgehogs just like...lying about? are there extras? if so, if you request that we (the u.s. east coast) send summer weather to you, you must SEND HEDGEHOGS!!! in return. and please just *send* them...no need to throw; they're so dear. http://au.news.yahoo.com/080530/19/p/172jl.html - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:15:03 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:37 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > jeff 2fs says: > > On 6/24/08, kevin studyvin wrote: > >> > >> > i think whoever made "helvetica" needs to make "pencil." > >> > > >> > >> > >> Beware - you could be wishing another comic sans on the world! > > > > > > > > I think she meant "make a movie about pencils, called _Pencil_." > > > > If I'm right, it disturbs me that I can interpret Lauren Whatshername > that > > accurately... > > but that was the *easy* part. now what the hell is kevin talking about? > Umm, I don't entirely remember...something about the potential for another font-of-abuse with the potential to become as ubiquitous & annoying as the comic sans...didn't really come across, I guess. np: Beck-Ola ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:16:53 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: covers How 'bout the creepy take of "Superstar" Sonic Youth did? On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:55 PM, wrote: > Now there's a potentially fertile area for discussion. Cant think of a >> worst cover off the top of my head, but my favorites include Zappa's >> version >> of "Whipping Post." And does the "Louie Louie" from Metallic KO count? >> > > My worst would almost certainly be the cloying version of "Ticket to ride" > committed by the Carpenters > > James > -- > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. > -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:53:39 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: covers On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:16 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > How 'bout the creepy take of "Superstar" Sonic Youth did? That's actually currently available on the "people famous for other shit select Sonic Youth songs for a compilation you can buy at Starbucks" compilation available at Starbucks. It's apparently Diablo Cody's favorite Sonic Youth song. Diablo Cody... in theory, she should be a good idea, but I'm afraid that in practice she's really quite irritating. The Carpenters reside near the center of the realm of "I really don't know very many of their songs and dude seriously I'm not just saying that to sound all cool and shit and I find it bothersome that I have to qualify that, but not bothersome enough to actually listen to what is probably pretty bad or at least uninteresting music to me", near but deeper in than ABBA, a few of whose songs seem to have penetrated my membrane over the last decade. I used to rather like Sonic Youth's song *about* the Carpenters ("Tunic") but I found it a little tackier than I remembered the last time I heard it. Worst cover ever... hmmm. American Idol must surely have yielded contenders in spades. Bad Beatles covers are a category unto themselves. That said, the version of "Kung Fu Fighting" tat plays over the end credits to "Kung Fu Panda" is really bad; one should really not try to do a politically correct version of a song like that. It was, I'm told, originally released in 1974. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:29:15 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] Rex wrote: >Is that the proper conjugation? To me, it looks like "fray-king" spelledthat way, and that can only mean "behaving in the manner of that pauncy dudewho played Commander Ryker (Riker?)".< ...Ooh, don't mention that sumabitch Frakes -- he wrecked the movie version of my favorite childhood show, "Thunderbirds." Michael "Well, the actual rocketships were pretty good in the movie, but the re-jiggering of the supporting mythology totally sucked" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_062008 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:38:34 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: covers On 25/06/2008, Rex wrote: > > That said, the version of "Kung Fu Fighting" tat plays over the end credits > to "Kung Fu > Panda" is really bad; one should really not try to do a politically correct > version of a song like that. It was, I'm told, originally released in > 1974. Indeed it was. And was originally intended to be the 'throwaway b-side'... If any of fegs haven't heard the Carl Douglas original, and want to, let me know and I'll mp3 it... c* Feinting from the hip, into a brand new trip - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:49:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: you misunderstood my misunderstanding James wrote: "did none of you follow the link to the 60th anniversary of the LP, then?" Yes, I did follow that link. It's just that, at first glance, I thought the reference was to Ray Davies' birthday. Then I realized that the year was wrong and I knew that the "happy birthday" was referring to something else. As for writing utensils, I fell deeply in love with the Stabilo Point 88 line of thin markers about 16 or so years ago. The heiress to the Stabilo fortune, Ponke Schwanhaeusser (I wish I could do German fonts here; this looks ridiculous), was a student of mine. At the end of the term, she gave me just about one of everything that Stabilo makes. The Stabilo Point 88, which comes in a zillion colors, is great for marking papers. I wonder if they are made near all the other German writing utensils mentioned heretofore. I don't remember where in Germany Ponke said she was from. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:06:35 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: you misunderstood my misunderstanding Jill Brand wrote: > > As for writing utensils, I fell deeply in love with the Stabilo Point 88 > line of thin markers about 16 or so years ago. srsly, point 88's are the business. Realising that yet more of my writing utensils are German: Rotring 600 fountain pen and 0.5mm pencil (I have two of each), and Lamy fountain pens and their neato pocket pen. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:04:19 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: covers - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of grutness@slingshot.co.nz Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 11:56 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re:covers >>Now there's a potentially fertile area for discussion. Cant think of a >>worst cover off the top of my head, but my favorites include Zappa's >>version of "Whipping Post." And does the "Louie Louie" from Metallic KO count? >My worst would almost certainly be the cloying version of "Ticket to ride" committed by the Carpenters Nazareth's cover of "Love Hurts". Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:37:58 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: covers > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:55 PM, wrote: > > > Now there's a potentially fertile area for discussion. Cant think of a > >> worst cover off the top of my head, but my favorites include Zappa's > >> version > >> of "Whipping Post." And does the "Louie Louie" from Metallic KO count? > >> > > > > My worst would almost certainly be the cloying version of "Ticket to > ride" > > committed by the Carpenters On 6/25/08, kevin studyvin wrote:How 'bout the creepy take of "Superstar" Sonic Youth did? - --Wait a sec: that's a *brilliant* cover. The creepiness is in the song; all SY did was smartly bring it out. Their version has way more depth than the original. Digressively (as usual), it seems that a lot of early '70s songs were kind of...odd. Even (especially) in the top 40. It's as if someone decided that songwriting was about exploring weird corners of human behavior - and even when the music that went with was utterly generic or cloying, often the lyrics were rather misfit. I mean, didn't Helen Reddy have like five hits about bats-in-the-belfry women? Among my favorites in this category is "Alone Again Naturally," Gilbert O'Sullivan's cheery ode to...well, everything possibly that could go wrong. I mean, the lyrics to that thing are just brutal - if it were a Joy Division song, everyone would have been calling social services and making sure Ian didn't harm himself (that obviously did not happen). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:40:40 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: covers On Jun 24, 2008, at 11:53 PM, Rex wrote: > The Carpenters reside near the center of the realm of "I really > don't know > very many of their songs and dude seriously I'm not just saying that > to > sound all cool and shit and I find it bothersome that I have to > qualify > that, but not bothersome enough to actually listen to what is probably > pretty bad or at least uninteresting music to me" Gee, and I thought everybody owned a copy of "If I Were A Carpenter". Cracker's "Rainy Days and Mondays" is teh awesome! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:19:24 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: covers > The Carpenters reside near the center of the realm of "I really don't know > very many of their songs and dude seriously I'm not just saying that to > sound all cool and shit and I find it bothersome that I have to qualify > that, but not bothersome enough to actually listen to what is probably > pretty bad or at least uninteresting music to me", near but deeper in than > ABBA, a few of whose songs seem to have penetrated my membrane over the last > decade. I used to rather like Sonic Youth's song *about* the Carpenters > ("Tunic") but I found it a little tackier than I remembered the last time I > heard it. > > > My Carpenters horror story: did some of my high school years in Long Beach, Ca. Was in a couple of different choir/vocal groups as a slacker ploy to get grades/credit without doing any actual work, but there was a price to pay. As a too-hip-to-live smartass teen whose musical interests at that point were basically your hardcore L.A. hipster rock groups (Canned Heat, Zappa, the Doors, Buffalo Springfield et associated spinoffs) and some of the folkie stuff my girlfriend liked (your Pentangle, Joan Baez, John Fahey) I found myself surrounded by South California teens, many of them planning on careers in the biz, whose idea of rockin' tunes mostly involved Neil Diamond & the Carpenters. It was hard to deal with, but the alternative would have been to take real classes requiring actual work. The nadir was when our little pop-oriented twelve-voice group was drafted to sing on a boat in a Christmas parade down at Newport. Actually that was pretty cool. What grated was that our instructor managed to borrow a celeste from Cal State Long Beach; apparently KAREN AND RICHARD went to school there and left an enduring stain on the music department - indeed RICHARD HIMSELF had actually PLAYED this INSTRUMENT. Cue a lot of gushing and gooing. It was hard to deal with this fetishistic display over a couple of individuals I considered so far beneath contempt that contempt would have been hard put to locate them. So, the singing-Xmas-music-on-a-yacht-in-the-Newport-Xmas-parade, pretty fun; dealing with a bunch of drooling Carpenters fans, on the obnoxious side. Still not a fan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:39:04 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: covers > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:55 PM, wrote: > > > Now there's a potentially fertile area for discussion. Cant think > > of a > >> worst cover off the top of my head, but my favorites include > >> Zappa's version of "Whipping Post." And does the "Louie Louie" > >> from Metallic KO count? > >> > > > > My worst would almost certainly be the cloying version of "Ticket to > ride" > > committed by the Carpenters I love Martin Mull's sarcastic bit from his album "Martin Mull and his Fablous Furniture" about how inspirational The Carpenters were. "Take Karen for instance, she not only sings, but drums at the same time. I happen to know that weeks of work went into that". Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:39:14 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: covers jeff 2fs says: > On 6/25/08, kevin studyvin wrote:How 'bout the creepy > take of "Superstar" Sonic Youth did? > > --Wait a sec: that's a *brilliant* cover. The creepiness is in the song; all > SY did was smartly bring it out. Their version has way more depth than the > original. oh, i love the sonic youth cover. it was featured on the ``juno'' soundtrack, so now i actually hear it every once in awhile. bingo on the creep factor. i love the original, as well. i think it's a really good example of a cover that was worth doing. i'm always impressed when a band is able to ``take ownership'' of a song, and create a new take on it. sonic youth's cover of ``superstar'' is so lovely and ghostly on its own, but it's also very knowing, and always seems to be giving a backwards glance towards the original: ``this song has EVERYTHING!'' > Digressively (as usual), it seems that a lot of early '70s songs were kind > of...odd. Even (especially) in the top 40. It's as if someone decided that > songwriting was about exploring weird corners of human behavior - and even > when the music that went with was utterly generic or cloying, often the > lyrics were rather misfit. I mean, didn't Helen Reddy have like five hits > about bats-in-the-belfry women? > > Among my favorites in this category is "Alone Again Naturally," Gilbert > O'Sullivan's cheery ode to...well, everything possibly that could go wrong. > I mean, the lyrics to that thing are just brutal - if it were a Joy Division > song, everyone would have been calling social services and making sure Ian > didn't harm himself (that obviously did not happen). that's another one i adore. it's so grim and so very sing-song-y. that one's on the (terrific, IMO) soundtrack to ``the virgin suicides'', so, again, i hear it more than would be expected (btw, soundtrack may not be recommended for you guys as, i seem to recall, you've heard ``come sail away'' one too many times.) the 1970s had some really crazy stuff. in life and in song. in some ways, there was so much convention, but there was this insanity trying to break free. i loved carrie's comment about how it was time someone could walk into a corporate office building with a chainsaw. my favourite example of 1970s weirdness is the song ``timothy'' in which a few boys go camping or caving, but sadly, lose their compass or such, and so have to resort to cannibalism (i hate when that happens.) xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:34:33 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: covers On 6/25/08, (0% rh) wrote: > > > my favourite example of 1970s weirdness is the song ``timothy'' in > which a few boys go camping or caving, but sadly, lose their compass > or such, and so have to resort to cannibalism (i hate when that > happens.) I'm just glad the vrirargrrra folks haven't got hold of "Band of Gold" yet... (unless they have). (Cure for cluelessness: remove even-number-position r's) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:44:37 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: For the fegkids (and others) > After greedily yelling for more fish, young Bobby is sent to his > bedroom without any supper at all. But Bobby escapes when the > Manuxet River runs right through his room carrying an old boat that > takes him to Innsmouth. When the Deep Ones come for him he flees, > but when he eventually joins their wild rumpus under the ocean, > they crown him the most Deep One of all. This doesn't seem to have made it into the "book trade" yet. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:04:24 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: covers On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:37 AM, 2fs wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:55 PM, wrote: > > > > > Now there's a potentially fertile area for discussion. Cant think of a > > >> worst cover off the top of my head, but my favorites include Zappa's > > >> version > > >> of "Whipping Post." And does the "Louie Louie" from Metallic KO > count? > > >> > > > > > > My worst would almost certainly be the cloying version of "Ticket to > > ride" > > > committed by the Carpenters > > > > On 6/25/08, kevin studyvin wrote:How 'bout the > creepy > take of "Superstar" Sonic Youth did? > was smartly bring it out. Their version has way more depth than the > original. > > Digressively (as usual), it seems that a lot of early '70s songs were kind > of...odd. Even (especially) in the top 40. It's as if someone decided that > songwriting was about exploring weird corners of human behavior - and even > when the music that went with was utterly generic or cloying, often the > lyrics were rather misfit. I mean, didn't Helen Reddy have like five hits > about bats-in-the-belfry women? > Yes, and my mom loved all of them. And yes, an odd time for lyrics in otherwise conventional pop songs... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:42:47 -0700 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: RE: covers Tom Clark wrote: > Gee, and I thought everybody owned a copy of "If I Were A Carpenter". > Cracker's "Rainy Days and Mondays" is teh awesome! Have to agree with you there, Tom, but how can you omit the brilliantly cheery cover of "On Top of the World" by Shonen Knife??? Marc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:39:19 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: covers >On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:16 PM, kevin studyvin ><kstudyvin@gmail.com> wrote: > >How 'bout the creepy take of "Superstar" Sonic Youth did? > > >That's actually currently available on the "people famous for other >shit select Sonic Youth songs for a compilation you can buy at >Starbucks" compilation available at Starbucks. It's apparently >Diablo Cody's favorite Sonic Youth song. Diablo Cody... in theory, >she should be a good idea, but I'm afraid that in practice she's >really quite irritating. I don't mind that cover either - the lyrics were always pretty creepy if you think about it, but the Carpernters version hid the fact with their sugar-coated treatment. >The Carpenters reside near the center of the realm of "I really >don't know very many of their songs and dude seriously I'm not just >saying that to sound all cool and shit and I find it bothersome that >I have to qualify that, but not bothersome enough to actually listen >to what is probably pretty bad or at least uninteresting music to >me", near but deeper in than ABBA, a few of whose songs seem to >have penetrated my membrane over the last decade. I used to rather >like Sonic Youth's song *about* the Carpenters ("Tunic") but I found >it a little tackier than I remembered the last time I heard it. In both cases, they're admirable as much for their style as their content. Both the Carpenters and Abba hit the sweet spot for the style of music they were aiming for, and as such are in the pantheon of pop - albeit nowhere near the pantheon of rock. > >Worst cover ever... hmmm. American Idol must surely have yielded >contenders in spades. Bad Beatles covers are a category unto >themselves. That said, the version of "Kung Fu Fighting" tat plays >over the end credits to "Kung Fu Panda" is really bad; one should >really not try to do a politically correct version of a song like >that. It was, I'm told, originally released in 1974. We haven't even mentioned anything off the BeeGees et al's "Sgt. Pepper". The version of "I want you (She's so heavy)" gets a very high rating on the execrometer. Jff wrote: >Digressively (as usual), it seems that a lot of early '70s songs >were kind of...odd. Even (especially) in the top 40. It's as if >someone decided that songwriting was about exploring weird corners >of human behavior - and even when the music that went with was >utterly generic or cloying, often the lyrics were rather misfit. I >mean, didn't Helen Reddy have like five hits about >bats-in-the-belfry women? > >Among my favorites in this category is "Alone Again Naturally," >Gilbert O'Sullivan's cheery ode to...well, everything possibly that >could go wrong. I mean, the lyrics to that thing are just brutal - >if it were a Joy Division song, everyone would have been calling >social services and making sure Ian didn't harm himself (that >obviously did not happen). I tend to call these "mystery songs" - there were a whole spate of them starting about the time Billy Joe McAllister jumped off the Talahassee Bridge. Others that I can think of offhand include the aforementioned Helen Reddy's "Delta Dawn" and "Angie Baby", Cliff Richard's "Devil Woman". Hell, you could even include some of Talking Heads' songs from the Remain in Light period, some early Kate Bush, and several tracks from Godley & Creme's "Ismism", although the style of music involved was substantially different in these cases. As to "Alone again, naturally", I agree - it's saccharine, cleverly structured, and depressing as Hell - and a very fine, overlooked gem. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:40:52 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: For the fegkids (and others) I seriously owe you one for that. Can. Not. Wait. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > > After greedily yelling for more fish, young Bobby is sent to his bedroom >> without any supper at all. But Bobby escapes when the Manuxet River runs >> right through his room carrying an old boat that takes him to Innsmouth. >> When the Deep Ones come for him he flees, but when he eventually joins their >> wild rumpus under the ocean, they crown him the most Deep One of all. >> > > This doesn't seem to have made it into the "book trade" yet. > > > - Steve > __________ > I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl > with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:16:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: covers grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > Jff wrote: >> Digressively (as usual), it seems that a lot of early '70s songs >> were kind of...odd. Even (especially) in the top 40. It's as if >> someone decided that songwriting was about exploring weird corners >> of human behavior - and even when the music that went with was >> utterly generic or cloying, often the lyrics were rather misfit. I >> mean, didn't Helen Reddy have like five hits about >> bats-in-the-belfry women? >> >> Among my favorites in this category is "Alone Again Naturally," >> Gilbert O'Sullivan's cheery ode to...well, everything possibly that >> could go wrong. I mean, the lyrics to that thing are just brutal - >> if it were a Joy Division song, everyone would have been calling >> social services and making sure Ian didn't harm himself (that >> obviously did not happen). > > I tend to call these "mystery songs" - there were a whole spate of > them starting about the time Billy Joe McAllister jumped off the > Talahassee Bridge. Tallahatchie Bridge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallahatchie_River > Others that I can think of offhand include the > aforementioned Helen Reddy's "Delta Dawn" and "Angie Baby", Cliff > Richard's "Devil Woman". > > Hell, you could even include some of Talking Heads' songs from the > Remain in Light period, some early Kate Bush, and several tracks from > Godley & Creme's "Ismism", although the style of music involved was > substantially different in these cases. "Girlfriend in a Coma." "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:33:16 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: toe for toe, and oast for oast - toast! - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #640 ********************************