From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #639 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, June 24 2008 Volume 16 : Number 639 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Flash [Rex ] Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] ["(0% rh)" ] Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] [Rex ] Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: 1993 Ritz show ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] ["(0% rh)" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:30:10 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Flash On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 1:41 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > Yet again I'm led to wonder what the superlative form of "so what?" might > be: > > http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/news/article/0,,4703772,00.html For those keeping score on the Race to Not Put Out A Damn Album, My Bloody Valentine... PLAYED A SHOW! No new songs. I call it a draw for now. MBV has been supposedly sitting on an album's worth of material for longer, but none of it has leaked. What's really gonna fuck people up is when GNR and MBV start cranking out the records... because, to average things out, Bob Pollard and Mark E. Smith are going to be sent to Guantanamo Bay to prevent any releases for what the Bush administration calls "an indefinite period". Turns out you can be sent there just for being a prole art threat or associating with the Teenage FBI. Yes, I know MES is not a US citizen, but I'm not gonna be the one to ask Dick Cheney if he gives a shit. - -Rex, all Fall all the time, still... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:36:40 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] Stewart says: > (0% rh) wrote: >> >> btw, i can never find my favourite lead these day - "F" (i think it's >> a 2-1/2 on the other scale?) i settle for "HB" but it's a bit soft >> for a leftie. > > Fun fact - there's no standard to each manufacturer's grade (read Petrosky's > "The Pencil" for details). ah - that explains quite a bit. > Faber-Castell seems harder for their grade to me, > and most American pencils too soft. I think that Staedtler get it right for > me. in office-supply stores, there's not much choice, but pentel (i think it's called) seems to be the best of what i come across. staedtler i admire on general principle but i don't think i'll find their lead outside of an art-supply store. > What diameter of F do you need? Between Aboveground and Midoco, Toronto has > all your pencil needs. i mainly use 0.5, but sometimes 0.7. if you're short on RH dvds, we can trade! >> i like those bible highlighters on the pencil website. > > I just use a plain red marking pencil for highlighting. Less is more. some thin line pastel markers seems to be doing okay for me right now. and i often just put two vertical marks on the margin instead of underlining, especially if i just have a pencil handy. as an aside, over the years, it has gotten more difficult for me to think without holding a pencil. it doesn't make much sense -- unless i'm reading or figurin', i rarely need a pencil to help me -- but, regardless, it seems to bring a sort of clarity. maybe it's like getting to hold the talking stick? (like i need the fraking talking stick.) xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:02:58 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] - --On 24. Juni 2008 04:36:40 -0400 "(0% rh)" wrote: >> Faber-Castell seems harder for their grade to me, >> and most American pencils too soft. I think that Staedtler get it right >> for me. I never properly realized that pencils are such a German domain! What's more, most of the famous producers are located in one small region of Germany, namely around Nuremberg. This list is really educational at times ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:06:06 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: 1993 Ritz show Quoting fegmaniax-digest : > > Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:01:14 -0700 > From: Tom Clark > Subject: Re: News > > On Jun 22, 2008, at 1:38 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > >> Just stumbled across this: >> >> http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/47479-staff-list-the-20-worst-album-covers-of-2007 > > Apparently Bobbie Fleckman is not an executive at Ted Nugent's label. > > - -tc * She wouldn't have liked it, would she? > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:26:12 -0400 > From: gaseous clay > Subject: DIME/LMA: Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians - 1993-05-19 - > The Ritz, New York City, NY (CS AUD master) > FLACs via bittorrent at dimeadozen: > http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=202283&hit=1 > FLACs/mp3s/oggs via direct download from the live music archive: > http://www.archive.org/details/RobynHitchcock1993-05-19.cm-s20.flac16 > enjoy! > woj * They really are good on this performance, aren't they? I lost sight of The Egyptians after the 'Sleeping With Your Devil Mask' period - presumably they were working on cracking North America most of the time. But I always enjoyed 'Respect' - too bad they broke up after (or possibly during) it. * I thought that the version of 'Airscape' on this performance was a bit OTT apart from the quiet bit, though he managed to hit the top note at the end. Any suggestions about best performances of 'Airscape'? The best performance I ever saw of 'Arms of Love' was during one of those Isle of Wight jaunts. - - Mike Godwin PS Celine Dion is responsible for the world's worst cover song, according to a survey for a Bath magazine. "The Canadian singer received the ignominious title for her rendition of the AC/DC track You Shook Me All Night Long. Dion, 40, has never released the song as a single but performed the "musical offence" at a Las Vegas concert six years ago". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:06:08 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > ... most of the famous producers are located in one small region of > Germany, namely around Nuremberg. There was a reason for that, but one I don't entirely remember. Something like a family feud splitting a company, and perhaps something to do with the region's journeyman's regulations. Petrosky had it, but I don't. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:16:13 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Sebastian Hagedorn Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:03 AM To: a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil! Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] - --On 24. Juni 2008 04:36:40 -0400 "(0% rh)" wrote: >> Faber-Castell seems harder for their grade to me, and most American >> pencils too soft. I think that Staedtler get it right for me. >I never properly realized that pencils are such a German domain! What's more, most of the famous producers are >located in one small region of Germany, namely around Nuremberg. This list is really educational at times ... I still have one old Dixon Ticonderoga pencil that is grade 3 HARD. I don't know if they are made anymore, but Ticonderogas were great pencils back in the day. I have a 15 or so year old Faber-Castell stapler that I use at work. It's stamped MADE IN SWEDEN on the inside, and on the bottom plastic portion, DESIGNED AND MANUFACTURED BY ISABERG AB HESTERA. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:23:59 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] On Jun 24, 2008, at 7:16 AM, Bachman, Michael wrote: > I still have one old Dixon Ticonderoga pencil that is grade 3 HARD. I > don't know if they are made anymore, but Ticonderogas were great > pencils > back in the day. 1388-3, I've got a box with 10 left, right here at my desk. The box itself is redeemable for 3 Prang Power Points . Can't say if you'd want your school child to have Prang Power, but there you go. Never go lower than #3. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:44:14 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 1:36 AM, (0% rh) wrote: > egardless, it seems to bring a sort of clarity. > > maybe it's like getting to hold the talking stick? (like i need the > fraking talking stick.) > Is that the proper conjugation? To me, it looks like "fray-king" spelled that way, and that can only mean "behaving in the manner of that pauncy dude who played Commander Ryker (Riker?)". - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:45:56 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Rex wrote: > > Is that the proper conjugation? To me, it looks like "fray-king" spelled > that way, and that can only mean "behaving in the manner of that pauncy dude > who played Commander Ryker (Riker?)". > Erm, "paunchy". Although the misspelling above may prove useful elsewhere. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:22:16 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] You mean like in "poncy"? There's one of the deficiencies in your American English. On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Rex wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Rex wrote: > > > > > Is that the proper conjugation? To me, it looks like "fray-king" spelled > > that way, and that can only mean "behaving in the manner of that pauncy > dude > > who played Commander Ryker (Riker?)". > > > > Erm, "paunchy". Although the misspelling above may prove useful elsewhere. > > -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:27:58 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: 1993 Ritz show > PS Celine Dion is responsible for the world's worst cover song, according > to a survey for a Bath magazine. > > "The Canadian singer received the ignominious title for her rendition of > the AC/DC track You Shook Me All Night Long. Dion, 40, has never released > the song as a single but performed the "musical offence" at a Las Vegas > concert six years ago". > Now there's a potentially fertile area for discussion. Cant think of a worst cover off the top of my head, but my favorites include Zappa's version of "Whipping Post." And does the "Louie Louie" from Metallic KO count? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:36:51 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: 1993 Ritz show worst cover: Nicolai Dunger massacring "Late Night". I know it was nearly 7 years ago , but time hasn't dulled its grating nature. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:42:08 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] Sebastian says: > --On 24. Juni 2008 04:36:40 -0400 "(0% rh)" wrote: > >>> Faber-Castell seems harder for their grade to me, >>> and most American pencils too soft. I think that Staedtler get it right >>> for me. > > I never properly realized that pencils are such a German domain! What's > more, most of the famous producers are located in one small region of > Germany, namely around Nuremberg. This list is really educational at times > ... i think whoever made "helvetica" needs to make "pencil." xo p.s. to sebastian - i watched "cassandra's dream" on dvd, and was actually a bit disappointed. i think it got better as it went along, but given that it was a woody allen movie, it was pretty slow going. of course, it was minus ms. johansson, so even with the pretty lead actors (colin farrell, and, allegedly ewan mcgregor (who i hadn't seen in so long that it seems i forget what he looks like)), it wasn't as easy on the eyes as some of mr. allen's recent films. "cassandra's dream" was kind of unusual, i think, in that it was about two male characters. there were female characters, but they were definitely secondary. maybe i'm misremembering, but don't woody allen's movies almost always at least one female in the lead? one last note about the movie - i do really love the title of it (they sometimes called me cassandra at my last job, reportedly because of my pessimism, but i think it was *their* lack of realism.) - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:02:04 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] > i think whoever made "helvetica" needs to make "pencil." > Beware - you could be wishing another comic sans on the world! > > > "cassandra's dream" was kind of unusual, i think, in that it was about > two male characters. there were female characters, but they were > definitely secondary. maybe i'm misremembering, but don't woody > allen's movies almost always at least one female in the lead? > I'm having trouble coming to terms with Woody Allen making movies that don't co-star New York City. > > one last note about the movie - i do really love the title of it (they > sometimes called me cassandra at my last job, reportedly because of my > pessimism, but i think it was *their* lack of realism.) > You've reminded me of a Tuxedomoon song about Cassandra, but it was off an LP I unloaded long ago. All I can remember is the phrase "Cassandra had problems." And some nice violin. I think it was the same album that "Holiday For Plywood" was on. I miss those guys. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:29:43 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #638 >Given that our mystery man/woman ('cause s/he also has no name on the >Kinks list) is a Kinks fan and wrote this.... > > >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:51:12 EDT >From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com >Subject: June 21, 1948 -Happy Birthday > >June 21, 1948 -Happy Birthday did none of you follow the link to the 60th anniversary of the LP, then? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:36:17 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: from the wang dang pig dept [0% RH] On 6/24/08, kevin studyvin wrote: > > > i think whoever made "helvetica" needs to make "pencil." > > > > > Beware - you could be wishing another comic sans on the world! I think she meant "make a movie about pencils, called _Pencil_." If I'm right, it disturbs me that I can interpret Lauren Whatshername that accurately... > > > > You've reminded me of a Tuxedomoon song about Cassandra, but it was off an > LP I unloaded long ago. All I can remember is the phrase "Cassandra had > problems." And some nice violin. I think it was the same album that > "Holiday For Plywood" was on. I miss those guys. "Victims of the Dance" (thanks, Google). However, the band is more or less active - there are a bunch of post-2000 albums. They're alright - not as good as those first few, which I discovered back in the '80s when I was buying everything on Ralph Records. Note also Blaine L. Reininger's website is pretty hilarious. I forget the URL...but there probably aren't too many "Blaine L. Reininger"s in the world. (Good thing he's not Steven Brown...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #639 ********************************