From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #627 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, June 9 2008 Volume 16 : Number 627 Today's Subjects: ----------------- and in sports news to-day... ["(0% rh)" ] Re: In case of rapture, break glass [2fs ] Re: and in sports news to-day... ["Sumiko Keay" ] NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock - Tramps, NYC, NY (USA) Oct. 4, 1990 Madelf Master [gaseous clay ] NEW on DiME: Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians Tramps, New York City 9/12/91 [HwyCDRrev@aol] New On Dime - RH industry show- forgot URL [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: stolen from madcapslaughing [2fs ] liz phair - swingtown [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:40:19 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: and in sports news to-day... this is just a reminder to all the fegs who were, at some point or another, a teenage girl. or have ever found themself wandering around drunk at a racetrack with $2 to burn. it looks like post time for the belmont stakes is listed at 6:25pm EDT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Belmont_Stakes we may have our first triple crown winner since affirmed in 1976. that deserves an exclamation point, so here: ! and one of the many wonderful things about horses - they are graceful winners (and losers). this article has some general background: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/653437.html i found the following pretty interesting: "Big Brown is a 2-5 morning-line favorite to win the 1 1/2 -mile race and become a Triple Crown winner, something 18 horses have failed to do after winning the Kentucky Derby and Preakness, including 10 since Affirmed pulled it off in 1978. He would also become the second horse to win the Triple Crown without a loss, joining Seattle Slew (1977)." xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:02:08 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: In case of rapture, break glass On 6/7/08, michael wells wrote: > > > Another odd thing is that there are folks who think they can scare people > into believing in an imaginary sky fairy with threats of supernatural doom. > > > I am pleased as punch, however, with the opportunity to address aggressive > evangelicals a lot more often. When asked if I've "been saved," I usually > embark on a rambling, five-minute screed on archeoastronomy, sun worship, > God as giant 'sky penis', sacred mushrooms, shamanism and Jesus being an > insurgent, ultra-orthodox priest in an occupied land. So you mean you recite the lyrics to any Julian Cope album of the last decade or so? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 18:32:10 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: and in sports news to-day... Well, that was both disappointing and worrisome - but Da'Tara was excellent and I can't believe that there was a dead heat for 3rd place. Sumi On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, (0% rh) wrote: > this is just a reminder to all the fegs who were, at some point or > another, a teenage girl. or have ever found themself wandering around > drunk at a racetrack with $2 to burn. > > it looks like post time for the belmont stakes is listed at 6:25pm EDT. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Belmont_Stakes > > we may have our first triple crown winner since affirmed in 1976. > that deserves an exclamation point, so here: ! > > and one of the many wonderful things about horses - they are graceful > winners (and losers). this article has some general background: > http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/653437.html > > i found the following pretty interesting: > "Big Brown is a 2-5 morning-line favorite to win the 1 1/2 -mile race > and become a Triple Crown winner, something 18 horses have failed to > do after winning the Kentucky Derby and Preakness, including 10 since > Affirmed pulled it off in 1978. He would also become the second horse > to win the Triple Crown without a loss, joining Seattle Slew (1977)." > > xo > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:28:33 -0400 From: gaseous clay Subject: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock - Tramps, NYC, NY (USA) Oct. 4, 1990 Madelf Master http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=200029&hit=1 - -------- Original Message -------- A new torrent has been uploaded to DIME. Torrent: 200029 Title: Robyn Hitchcock - Tramps, NYC, NY (USA) Oct. 4, 1990 Madelf Master Size: 549.79 MB Category: Acoustic Uploaded by: madelf Info hash: 64db9a0a6799bca4b47dd94644c05cc4e993d269 Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robyn Hitchcock - Tramps, New York City, NY October 4, 1990 Aud master Aiwa HS-J800 w/ Sony 929 mic onto 2 Maxell XLII-90's played back on a Denon DRW-850 cassette deck > wavelab > flac frontend > make torrent 2 Recorded about center stage standing in front of a column maybe about 15ft back. It's hard to remember exactly. I broke my recording up at a different point in the performance than woj's version so maybe there would be less confusion between the two. Disc 1 1-Robyn banter 2-Linctus House 3-Robyn banter 4-Oceanside 5-Robyn banter 6-Madonna Of The Wasps 7-Robyn banter 8-Queen of Eyes 9-Clean Steve 10-Glass Hotel 11-So You Think You're In Love 12-Robyn banter 13-Raining Twilight Coast 14-Bass Disc 2 1-Glass 2-Cynthia Mask 3-Robyn banter 4-Beautiful Girl -- -- -- -- -- 5-banter 6-I Got A Message For You 7-Birdshead 8-Wild Mountain Thyme>Oh Yeah -- -- -- -- -- 9-encore break- 10-Chinese Water Python 11-Surgery 12-September Cones Notes: Tape flip between D1T11 & D1T12. 1st encore break edited out to save tape at the show. 2nd encore break edited but still there. Please do not sell or redistribute in lossy formats. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:39:16 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #626 Feggiest sign-off of the year award goes to... > Stewart >(in Olivet, MI - at banjo camp - being amazed by the frogs) Who else here knew that they even played banjos? Well, I suppose there's Kermit... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:45:23 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: RE: In case of rapture, break glass >I am pleased as punch, however, with the opportunity to address aggressive >evangelicals a lot more often. When asked if I've "been saved," I usually >embark on a rambling, five-minute screed on archeoastronomy, sun worship, >God as giant 'sky penis', sacred mushrooms, shamanism and Jesus being an >insurgent, ultra-orthodox priest in an occupied land. > >By the end they're usually so confused and/or put off that I get left alone, >which was rather the whole point. If they're still around, I've got a >well-developed (if controversial) theory about Santa Claus that I can throw >down. So far the only ones who've had to hear this are my office mate and >some guy outside the train station downtown, and neither was too happy about >it. I'm similar, though I don't so much rant at them from that point of view as use scripture to "convert" them. Y'know - God created us in his image. The Bible says that Jesus will show the way to God. Jesus referred to all people as his brothers and taught us to call God "our father", as well as confirrming to us that God is in all of us. So who are the real sons and daughters of God? And if they come back with that "The Bible calls him the only begotten son of God" shit, I just tell them "one of the four gospels calls him that - the other three call him Son of Man - which of them is wrong?" That usually confuses them for a while. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:01:34 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #624 >As far as "An Horse" is concerned, that's a perfectly acceptable >dialectical usage in places where the H isn't pronounced (try saying >"A horse" in a north London accent!) > > > >Um, I can do a passable approximation of whatever it is Richard >Butler speaks & have Viv Stanshall's BBC announcer-voice down pretty >well but here in the USA (where most people still think your average >Brit talks like Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins) not too many of us >could identify north (I assume as distinct from other-parts-of) >London... Well, most London accents would make it "An 'orse". For a good example of "Norflunnen", though... do you get "Red Dwarf" in the US? If so, listen to the computer, Holly. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 00:56:00 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: stolen from madcapslaughing I try to avoid citing Lester Bangs more than three or four times a year, but these are pretty much *his* final thoughts on the subject.... "Bad Taste Is Timeless" (excerpts) Lester Bangs, Music And Sound Output, May/June 1982 ...Ever since the advent of new wave, it has been considered uncool, if not an outright admission of collapse in the face of future shock, to admit to liking anything recorded pre-1977 to the latest fab waxing from Blighty or your local garage. The editor of New York Rocker, for instance, writes to tell me that my stance reminds him of hoary old jazz critic Leonard Feather's cowlike intransigence in the face of Ornette Coleman's 'Free Jazz' 20 years ago. I wrote him back: "Unfortunately, all that cowplop you tell your readers to run out and buy every month is not some ineluctable avant-garde that threatens everybody now but they'll all look back in 10 or 20 years and realize how vital it was. It's a bunch of nothing that challenges no one." That's why I'd rather listen to Hank Williams or Beck, Bogert & Appice or Charlie Parker or the Royal Guardsmen. I have to say that the champions of the current new wave "avant-garde" are largely trendies, and I can guarantee you there will be no Throbbing Gristle repackages from Japan in the year 2000. It's not even that big of a controversy right now, since most critics are afraid to put very much of this stuff down and 99.9% of the public is indifferent. But listening to music recorded 20, 30 years ago is not living in the past, is not nostalgia. According to my dictionary, nostalgia is "homesickness...a longing for something far away or long ago or for former happy circumstances." The truth is that the Sixties, not to mention the Fifties, sucked in the first place and you wouldn't like it if you were back there in a time when people did things like informing you you were mentally ill or worse if you didn't wanna take a toke on the doob. The Fifties was a time when you couldn't walk down the street without bumping into some pissed-off frustrated repressed ugly cretin looking to beat the shit out of somebody (like you) because he wasn't getting any from his girlfriend. No one in his right mind would want to return to either of those eras, which is why the lie in rosy confections like Grease and Beatlemania is despicable. But preferring Hank Williams or Charlie Parker or The Sun Sessions or the Velvet Underground to Squeeze and Rickie Lee Jones and the Go-Gos and the Psychedelic Furs is not nostalgia, it's good taste. Just like listening to Beck, Bogert & Appice or Clock DVA and the Fall are bad taste. So I'll take my bad taste and you're welcome to yours, and maybe someday something will actually happen again and then we'll both be happy. ...I asked my friend James Marshall if he thought the current dismal state of music was likely to improve. "No," he said. "It's got to get worse, because everybody's into their own thing and doesn't wanna know. Pretty soon every band will have no more than three fans, and nobody will even have any friends. Then after that you'll start resenting the other guy because he likes the same thing you like: it's your turf! How dare he encroach? So then people will start killing each other for appropriating each other's musical tastes and thus infringing on the neighbor's hipness space. How can you be smug about being the only person in the world cool enough to appreciate some piece of new wave shit, or a blues band or arcane jazz artist for that matter, if you find out somebody else likes it? Don't dare tell 'em! Don't even tell your wife or girlfriend! Keep it safe inside your Walkman!" **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:07:35 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #626 grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > Who else here knew that they even played banjos? Well, I suppose there's > Kermit... Well, they're flippin' loud: A moment of total banjo awesomeness that I experienced (I'm just out of shot): - that's Cathy Fink playing a hideously complex version of Soldier's Joy with *one* finger and three finger puppets. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:58:37 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: NEW on DiME: Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians Tramps, New York City 9/12/91 Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians Tramps, New York City, NY September 12, 1991 aud master Aiwa HS-J800 w/ Sony 909 mic onto 2 Maxell XLII-90 played back on a Denon DRW-850 cassette deck >wavelab > flac frontend >make torrent 2 This was an industry only show for Robyn to showcase his new album. We had a grand dinner beforehand w/ Robyn at some fancy restaurant and then it was off to Tramps. I was so excited steathily recording this show amongst all industry suits that were there but was I so dissapointed in Robyn's set. Perspex Island is one of my least favorite Robyn albums and I felt this set just blew. It actually turned me off of Robyn for a good chunk of the 90's. And sadly it was the last time I saw him play with the Egyptians. setlist 1-intro 2-Oceanside 3-Acid Bird 4-Bad Case Of History 5-Birds In Perspex 6-Vegetation & Dimes 7-Lysander 8-Balloon Man 9-So You Think You're In Love 10-Freeze 11-Ride 12-Ultra Unbelievable Love encores 13-Superman 14-Child Of The Universe Notes: For such a short show, I really don't know what I was doing with all of the tape flips. You can hear where they are but I am not sure why there are more than what I would consider normal. Maybe I just thought he would play longer. Please DO NOT SELL or redistribute in lossy formats. **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:05:22 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: New On Dime - RH industry show- forgot URL http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=200140 **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:57:10 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: stolen from madcapslaughing On 6/8/08, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > I try to avoid citing Lester Bangs more than three or four times a > year, but > these are pretty much *his* final thoughts on the subject.... > > "Bad Taste Is Timeless" (excerpts) > Lester Bangs, Music And Sound Output, May/June 1982 > > .. > the current new wave "avant-garde" are largely trendies, and I can > guarantee > you there will be no Throbbing Gristle repackages from Japan in the year > 2000. I guess Bangs is technically correct: this came out in 2004, and is not a Japanese release... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 01:35:15 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: liz phair - swingtown liz phair was listed with some sort of music credit on the CBS summer show Swingtown the show so far seems to be trying so hard to be "authentic" i think they may have forgotten about developing the plot + characters ? but i guess we'll see how it goes i think i'll give it another week **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #627 ********************************