From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #611 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, May 26 2008 Volume 16 : Number 611 Today's Subjects: ----------------- REAP [2fs ] the ancient mind betrays [Jill Brand ] Re: the ancient mind betrays [Carrie Galbraith ] EP [JBJ ] Re: EP ["kevin studyvin" ] REAP [Michael Sweeney ] NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock - 31 Jan 2000 - Fleece and Firkin - Bristol - England - UK [gaseous cla] Re: EP [Capuchin ] Re: EP [Rex ] Re: EP [2fs ] Re: REAP [Tom Clark ] Re: EP ["kevin studyvin" ] RE: crossing two threads. ["michael wells" ] Re: EP [Steve Schiavo ] Re: crossing two threads. [2fs ] Your fellow voters (U.S. edition) [Steve Schiavo ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 00:06:55 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: REAP Dick Martin, half of titular team of _Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In_: < http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j99CR_xFNomdLxJhwGL5d5qvUdCQD90SEIK80> But how could he have been 86? I feel old... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:28:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: the ancient mind betrays Wow, I always thought it was "Angels over Berlin", but now I don't know why. It's a great movie. I saw it when I was pregnant with my son and had to keep running to the bathroom. OK, that's more than you wanted to know. Anyway, said son is returning home today after his freshman year in college. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 07:47:52 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: the ancient mind betrays On May 25, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > Wow, I always thought it was "Angels over Berlin", but now I don't > know why. It's a great movie. I saw it when I was pregnant with my > son and had to keep running to the bathroom. OK, that's more than > you wanted to know. Anyway, said son is returning home today after > his freshman year in college. > > Jill No one understands better than me Jill!. I saw that film when I was in art school - quite possibly high as a kite - and my nephew ge's married today/ So it's clear the confusion. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:03:10 -0700 (PDT) From: JBJ Subject: EP Fegs - What makes an EP an EP? I always thought it was the amount of tracks, but I just downloaded an EP with 12 tracks! (The National's The Virginia EP -- note the word EP in title, Jeff - I think they are messing with you). JBJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:36:10 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: EP I think it's more a matter of running time. Another legacy of the Vinyl Era when you had your single running 2-5 minutes, your LP running 35 minutes and up, and your EP somewhere in between (15-20, typically). On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM, JBJ wrote: > Fegs - > > What makes an EP an EP? > > I always thought it was the amount of tracks, but I just downloaded an EP > with 12 tracks! (The National's The Virginia EP -- note the word EP in > title, Jeff - I think they are messing with you). > > JBJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:39:52 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: REAP ...Comedian Dick Martin (of 'Laugh-In' fame), no longer looking it up in his Funk and Wagnall's... http://tinyurl.com/3lpnuz Michael "Can actually remember watching the show...AND being too young at the time for the bikini-clad girls to mean anything to me" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Change the world with e-mail. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:56:35 -0400 From: gaseous clay Subject: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock - 31 Jan 2000 - Fleece and Firkin - Bristol - England - UK http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=198242&hit=1 - -------- Original Message -------- A new torrent has been uploaded to DIME. Torrent: 198242 Title: Robyn Hitchcock - 31 Jan 2000 - Fleece and Firkin - Bristol - England - UK. Size: 583.49 MB Category: Alternate Uploaded by: ocelot Info hash: 19f5d007ca30d7d7dfc4ebe8408824baeeed71f0 Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robyn Hitchcock With: Kimberley Rew, Tim Keegan, Jake Kyle, Patch Hannon, Morris Windsor. Concert appearance: Mon., 31 Jan. 2000 Fleece and Firkin, Bristol, England, UK. Audience Recording Cassette Master>Wavelab>Flac Couple of glitches and a tapeflip during 'Adoration' and 'Beautiful Queen'. Getting around to the tapes.... Set list: Mexican God My Wife and My Dead Wife Victorian Squid Glass Hotel Queen Elvis enter Tim Keegan I Saw Nick Drake - enter Jake Kyle The Cheese Alarm - enter Patch Hannon & K. Rew Jewels for Sophia No, I Don't Remember Guildford Madonna of the Wasps Queen of Eyes Adoration of the City Birds in Perspex Antwoman Oceanside Encore: Airscape encore w/ Morris Windsor et al Encore: Kingdom of Love Encore: Insanely Jealous Encore: Eight Miles High (Byrds) Encore: Old Brown Shoe (George Harrison) Encore: Beautiful Queen >From 'The Asking Tree': Yes, it was a corker of a gig - much better than last time I saw him (a rather lacklustre performance at Oxford). He was in full-on jangle mode for most of the evening - Birds in Perspex, Oceanside, QoE, Madonna of the Wasps etc. Also a nice duelling harmonicas version of Queen Elvis with Tim Keegan. High point for an Egyptians fan was the appearance of Morris Windsor to duet with Robyn on Airscape, then to play drums on Kingdom of Love and Insanely Jealous - three Soft Boys on stage together! Regular drummer Patch Hannon returned to the seat for Eight Miles High, which had Morris and Tim on stunning harmony vocals. This was followed by 'a George Harrison song'. What would you choose, folks? Soomthing? Beware of Darkness? Taxman? No, none of these, he had dug out the obscure Beatles B-side 'Old Brown Shoe' and the whole band zipped into it with joie de vivre and aplomb. Finale was 'Beautiful Girl'. Anyhow, Darbi, this one was super-wizzo-sonic! - -Mike G - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:32:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: EP On Sun, 25 May 2008, kevin studyvin wrote: > I think it's more a matter of running time. Another legacy of the Vinyl > Era when you had your single running 2-5 minutes, your LP running 35 > minutes and up, and your EP somewhere in between (15-20, typically). An LP as low as 35? I mean, for the Ramones or Roger Miller, sure... but I am always shocked at how short, say, In The Aeroplane Over The Sea is. J. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:08:16 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: EP On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Capuchin wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2008, kevin studyvin wrote: > >> I think it's more a matter of running time. Another legacy of the Vinyl >> Era when you had your single running 2-5 minutes, your LP running 35 minutes >> and up, and your EP somewhere in between (15-20, typically). >> > > An LP as low as 35? I mean, for the Ramones or Roger Miller, sure... but I > am always shocked at how short, say, In The Aeroplane Over The Sea is. > All the early LP's of any kind, really... country, pop, rock, whatevah. You had a collection of 12 to 14 songs, few of which were even three whole minutes long. That was what they called "the old math", I guess. Which Roger Miller is that, by the way? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:28:14 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: EP On 5/25/08, kevin studyvin wrote: > > I think it's more a matter of running time. Another legacy of the Vinyl > Era > when you had your single running 2-5 minutes, your LP running 35 minutes > and > up, and your EP somewhere in between (15-20, typically). > > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:03 AM, JBJ wrote: > > > Fegs - > > > > What makes an EP an EP? Look at that nomenclature: "EP" stands for "extended play." That is, "extended" in relation to a single - and I believe EP is a British coinage. Brit singles often (always?) had a couple of songs on the b-side - so an "extended play" disc would have (say) four or more, but fewer than an LP ("long-player"). But pretty clearly, length isn't a surefire guide. I have plenty of EPs in the 28-35 minute range (that early live U2 one, say)...and many LPs on CD that are less than 35 minutes long: almost any country album, early Beatles, some punk acts, Clinic, etc. Nowadays, I think it's entirely a matter of price: you call something an "EP," and it's going to cost less than an album does...even if your next album is only 32 minutes long and your EP has 12 tracks and is 40 minutes long. It's marketing, in other words...as is nearly everything now... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:37:55 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: REAP On May 25, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...Comedian Dick Martin (of 'Laugh-In' fame), no longer looking it > up in his > Funk and Wagnall's... > The fickle finger of fate points at us all eventually. > > Michael "Can actually remember watching the show...AND being too > young at the > time for the bikini-clad girls to mean anything to me" Sweeney ...and being too young to enjoy the sip off my dad's Schaffer beer. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:57:04 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: EP Somewhere amid all the hilarity at Pere Ubu's website David Thomas tells how when they were setting out to make their first album they asked Paul Hamann, their producer/engineer/audio guru/occasional bass player, how long it should be. He said 36 minutes, and per Thomas that running time became one of the rules in the production of their early albums. On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Capuchin wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2008, kevin studyvin wrote: > >> I think it's more a matter of running time. Another legacy of the Vinyl >> Era when you had your single running 2-5 minutes, your LP running 35 minutes >> and up, and your EP somewhere in between (15-20, typically). >> > > An LP as low as 35? I mean, for the Ramones or Roger Miller, sure... but I > am always shocked at how short, say, In The Aeroplane Over The Sea is. > > J. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:32:07 -0700 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: crossing two threads. Strangely, it seems to work especially well with Nicholson movies: On a Clear Day You Can See Snakes The Snake of Marvin Gardens Five Easy Snakes Prizzi's Snake, and of course... A Few Good Snakes Michael "The Snakeman Always Rings Twice" the Mikester ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:47:10 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: EP On May 25, 2008, at 8:57 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > Somewhere amid all the hilarity at Pere Ubu's website David Thomas > tells how > when they were setting out to make their first album they asked > Paul Hamann, > their producer/engineer/audio guru/occasional bass player, how long it > should be. He said 36 minutes, and per Thomas that running time > became one > of the rules in the production of their early albums. Around 18 minutes a side is where you start making the trade-off between sound quality and LP length. It has something to do with how deep and wide the groove can be cut. - - Steve _______________ Interconnectedness among living beings can be accounted for by nonlocal quantum entanglement. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:43:23 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: crossing two threads. On 5/25/08, michael wells wrote: > > Strangely, it seems to work especially well with Nicholson movies: > > On a Clear Day You Can See Snakes > The Snake of Marvin Gardens > Five Easy Snakes > Prizzi's Snake, and of course... > A Few Good Snakes > > Michael "The Snakeman Always Rings Twice" the Mikester And there's also the adaptation of the Stephen Snakes novel, directed by Snakeley Kubrick - _The Snaking_. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:22:44 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Your fellow voters (U.S. edition) > "I just really feel like he's...not a people pleaser as in the > Americans, but the other people who don't necessarily need to be > pleased, the other, the enemies if you will, I don't know. I'm just > not real positive on that." Here's the whole thing. Not that there's anything new here. These Peter Hart focus groups often show up on C-SPAN, so watch your schedule. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #611 ********************************