From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #610 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, May 24 2008 Volume 16 : Number 610 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Uh-oh...murderousness! [2fs ] Re: Uh-oh...murderousness! [Tom Clark ] Re: Given all the incredibly stupid people [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: snakes - i sent this yesterday but it never arrived ? i know yer waiting [Eleanore Adams ] Re: Angels [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: green stuff and shooting Korans [Sebastian Hagedorn ] antique! [2fs ] Re: Angels [Carrie Galbraith ] REAP : 18 yr old in next Harry Potter [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 21:46:14 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Uh-oh...murderousness! The latest from Yep Roc - note the title < http://store.yeproc.com/album.php?id=13465>. All's I can say is, someone on this list better watch out for Steve Wynn... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 23:11:19 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Uh-oh...murderousness! On May 23, 2008, at 7:46 PM, 2fs wrote: > The latest from Yep Roc - note the title < > http://store.yeproc.com/album.php?id=13465>. > I am all over this. Scott and Peter are just way cool. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 08:42:49 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Given all the incredibly stupid people - -- Jeff Dwarf is rumored to have mumbled on 23. Mai 2008 17:24:42 -0700 regarding Given all the incredibly stupid people: > in politics, American and otherwise, who would have thought that the > single stupidest thing any has ever said and hopefully ever will > would be by someone who is (when the pressure isn't clamping down on > her) allegedly bright. Sorry, when the pressure is really on, > Hillary, you're too fucking stupid to be President. Even fucking Bush > hasn't been stupid enough to so flippantly bring up the specter of > assassination when the pressure's been on him. Well, IMO she's obviously being misinterpreted. Her point was merely that *that* nomination process had run into June as well. The way she expressed it was ill-advised, but now the quote is taken out of context and given a meaning that it didn't originally have ... That doesn't mean I'm *not* worried about assassination attempts on Obama :-( - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 10:13:29 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Given all the incredibly stupid people On 5/24/08, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > -- Jeff Dwarf is rumored to have mumbled on 23. Mai > 2008 17:24:42 -0700 regarding Given all the incredibly stupid people: > > in politics, American and otherwise, who would have thought that the >> single stupidest thing any has ever said and hopefully ever will >> would be by someone who is (when the pressure isn't clamping down on >> her) allegedly bright. Sorry, when the pressure is really on, >> Hillary, you're too fucking stupid to be President. Even fucking Bush >> hasn't been stupid enough to so flippantly bring up the specter of >> assassination when the pressure's been on him. >> > > Well, IMO she's obviously being misinterpreted. Her point was merely that > *that* nomination process had run into June as well. The way she expressed > it was ill-advised, but now the quote is taken out of context and given a > meaning that it didn't originally have I would argue that if an important part of someone's job description is diplomacy, such an ill-advised "argument" suggests she won't do so well with that aspect of the job. However, it's rather dubiously relevant that earlier primaries went undecided until June. As Clinton well knows, the American primary process has changed dramatically since 1968: just as an example, Wisconsin used to hold its primary in April...and it was among the earlier primaries. Now, April primaries are among the later ones. The whole process has been far more frontloaded, the parties have done everything they can to get things decided earlier and earlier so funding and campaigning can focus on a single candidate rather than on a diffuse field of candidates. So the fact that in '68 things were undecided into June has very little relevance to now: the nominee was generally chosen at the convention, and no one assumed that would have happened much earlier. That's not true now: the convention isn't to *choose* a candidate but, more or less, to anoint one. Actually, it's to publicize a candidate: the convention's basically an excuse to get the party all over the media. It's hardly necessary otherwise - esp. given computers, getting key delegates physically in the same space isn't a requirement. Furthermore, what the hell is the relevance - taste aside - of RFK's June '68 assassination to Hillary's staying in the race now? Let's say Clinton had dropped out in March. Let's say, god forbid, Obama is assassinated in June. Does Clinton's having dropped out mean the Democrats would suddenly say, omigod, we have no candidate, we'll have to start over completely? No, of course not: they would ask, and nominate, Clinton, as the best available choice. Dropping out of the race doesn't *prohibit* you from being elected - Clinton could, for example (now I'm back to reality, not my hypothetical scenario) decide to run as an independent against Obama and McCain if Obama wins the Dem nomination (obviously, that would require her to resign from the Democratic party - but it's doable if she wanted to do that). It was, at best, tasteless, undiplomatic, and irrelevant. The argument for her staying in the race is simply that she hasn't yet been mathematically eliminated - she still has a chance at the nomination. Whether her staying in is a *good* idea for the Democrats' chances is a separate question - but her grasping at such straws suggests desperation to me. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 08:18:01 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: snakes - i sent this yesterday but it never arrived ? i know yer waiting And in the car I was listening to "King of Snake" by Underworld ea On May 23, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > On May 23, 2008, at 10:55 AM, Bachman, Michael wrote: >> >> The Snake Ballads are pretty dark. Lot's of carnage in those songs. >> >> Nick Snake or Snake Cave from the movie "Snakes of Desire" >> "One more song and it's over, but I'm not gonna tell you about a >> snake. >> I'm not gonna tell you about a snake." >> "Let me tell you about a snake" >> > > I'm a big fan of Your Snakes, My Trial myself. > > Snakes of Desire! > Beats the American title - considering in the rest of the world the > film is actually titled "The Sky Over Berlin" I believe (Sebastian > can help me out on this one). > > Snakes over Berlin. That works. > - c, who is not even discussing the remake, the carriester ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:02:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Angels Carrie wrote: "Beats the American title - considering in the rest of the world the film is actually titled "The Sky Over Berlin" I believe (Sebastian can help me out on this one)." Actually, it's Angels over Berlin (Engeln ueber Berlin). Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 22:26:10 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Angels - -- Jill Brand is rumored to have mumbled on 24. Mai 2008 16:02:52 -0400 regarding Angels: > Carrie wrote: > "Beats the American title - considering in the rest of the world the > film is actually titled "The Sky Over Berlin" I believe (Sebastian > can help me out on this one)." > > Actually, it's Angels over Berlin (Engeln ueber Berlin). Sorry to contradict, but Carrie is right. The German title is "Der Himmel ueber Berlin". Note that German Himmel means both sky and heaven, so there is a little ambiguity there ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 22:31:18 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: green stuff and shooting Korans - -- Jill Brand is rumored to have mumbled on 20. Mai 2008 20:15:14 -0400 regarding green stuff and shooting Korans: > Well, now my universe is really upside down because Sebastian has > informed me that the stuff that is all over the Statue of Liberty is not > "Gruenspan" but rather "Kupferpatina." At least that's what Wikipedia claims ... I don't entirely trust them, because I found errors along these lines before. I think they may be correct scientifically, but sometimes that's not correct in colloquial speech. > That was news to my husband as > well. All is not lost, I'd say. > Sebastian, weren't you happier before you looked that up? ;-) Absolutely! That's why I refuse to give in ;-) I've been meaning to look it up in a dictionary, but haven't yet done so. I'll keep you posted. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:54:50 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Bruce "Utah" Phillips has caught the westbound. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 16:00:07 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: antique! I'm pretty sure no one will be interested in it as a computer...but just possibly, someone might want to convert it into a flowerpot or something: we have a 1986-vintage Mac Plus and a corresponding vintage Apple dot-matrix printer... It's bound for the recycling area other wise...let me know if you have any brilliant creative ideas for it and are willing to take it off our hands. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:53:20 -0700 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Angels On May 24, 2008, at 1:26 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- Jill Brand is rumored to have mumbled on 24. > Mai 2008 16:02:52 -0400 regarding Angels: > >> Carrie wrote: >> "Beats the American title - considering in the rest of the world the >> film is actually titled "The Sky Over Berlin" I believe (Sebastian >> can help me out on this one)." >> >> Actually, it's Angels over Berlin (Engeln ueber Berlin). > > Sorry to contradict, but Carrie is right. The German title is "Der > Himmel ueber Berlin". Note that German Himmel means both sky and > heaven, so there is a little ambiguity there ... > -- The Italian title is "Il Cielo Sopra Berlino" (and is virtually the same in Spanish) and Cielo is definitely not Paradiso. I like the German ambiguity. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 23:40:53 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP : 18 yr old in next Harry Potter http://news.aol.com/entertainment/movies/movie-news-story/ar/_a/teen-in-upcomi ng-harry-potter-killed/20080524180809990001?icid=1615988631x1202947804x1200307 381 **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #610 ********************************