From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #576 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, April 19 2008 Volume 16 : Number 576 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Ed Lorenz [Jill Brand ] costello / Lowe "indoor fireworks" 4/9/08 (0.005% RH) ["m swedene" ] Re: random [2fs ] Reap ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Ed Lorenz [Benjamin Lukoff ] Major lift (via the Fall) to my Friday [Rex ] Now this is frightening (0% Hitchcock) ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Now this is frightening (0% Hitchcock) [2fs ] Re: Conversations with the Step (and Her Computer), Continued [2fs ] Re: Ed Lorenz [Tom Clark ] Re: Ed Lorenz [Rex ] Re: Ed Lorenz ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Ed Lorenz [Rex ] RH - NPR [Eleanore Adams ] the single dehumanizing term [Jill Brand ] Re: Ed Lorenz ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:38:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Ed Lorenz Mike wrote: "Edward Lorenz, father of chaos theory, dies http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5isDQYRWLiBvPDklguo8vjtzlN1tQ" Ed Lorenz was faculty emeritus in the MIT meteorology department while my husband was a graduate student. He kept his office in the Green Building and was always around and involved with the grad students. He was a really wonderful man and there is a community of weather wankers here in Boston who are very sad today. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:32:18 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: costello / Lowe "indoor fireworks" 4/9/08 (0.005% RH) Here is the video link for it. Feel free to share with the Costello-ites. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znC3QYDpdaA Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:58:44 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: Vocalisms good call!! that video is the absolute fucking BEST. if anybody wants me to upload the album (including video) to the usenet, just say, "hey, fuck-stick, quit wasting my goddam motherfucking time, and get your white ass busy uploading that motherfucking video (and shit) to the usenet (or what)!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:12:37 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: random On 4/17/08, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, 2fs wrote: > > > > > > The Robyn/Mick connection is thus established: I think that at some > > > > date in the near future, Hitchcock discovers a time machine, and > > > > he travels back in time to influence Mick's grandparents to name > > > > their son "Basil Fanshawe." > > > > > > How do you know it wasn't in the near past? > > > > > > Well see that's the problem: once a time machine's been invented, it > always > > will have been been invented, so I guess it will have had been the past > but > > it isn't now. Or wasn't. Or won't have not been. > > > > > Reminds me of this passage from "The Restaurant at the End of the > Universe" -- http://www.earthstar.co.uk/rest.htm Which, of course, was what I was thinking of...rather vaguely, though. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:34:31 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: Reap http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080418/ap_en_mu/obit_federici ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:09:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Ed Lorenz On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Jill Brand wrote: > Mike wrote: > "Edward Lorenz, father of chaos theory, dies > > http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5isDQYRWLiBvPDklguo8vjtzlN1tQ" > > Ed Lorenz was faculty emeritus in the MIT meteorology department while my > husband was a graduate student. He kept his office in the Green Building > and was always around and involved with the grad students. He was a > really wonderful man and there is a community of weather wankers here in > Boston who are very sad today. > Weather wanker--is that like a roadgeek? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:37:46 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Major lift (via the Fall) to my Friday Over the past year I've been slowly picking up the small handful of Fall studio records that I somehow missed the first time around, usually by waiting for a cheap enough used copy to show up on Amazon. I'd just ordered "Cerebral Caustic", which I hadn't realized was as pivotal a record as it is (first of the second Brix period, but also the last with Craig Scanlon) and received it last night... and was pleased to discover that my eight bucks had netted me the two-disc reissue version. Nice. The liner notes are especially cool... one usually doesn't get much context with one's Fall records. Neat little MES/BES interview at the end, too. And it's also alway cool when an overlooked Fall album turns out to have some real high points. I mean, they (almost) always do, but there's always the chance of popping open another "Are You Are Missing Winner", isn't there? Anyways, as usual, it's a wonderful day for my cow-orkers, innocently orking their cows and being subjected yet again to my sustained dissection of a record by that band. Similarly, there may be fegmaniax who occasionally wonder why I don't just damn join a Fall mailing list. The answer to that is, of course, that I'm scared to. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:55:53 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Now this is frightening (0% Hitchcock) Am I the last person in North America to find out about this, again? Anyway, Netflix doesn't have it yet, even though it bears the rare distinction of being an Official Selection of the Seattle Film Festival. The terrifying thing about it is...Tori Spelling. http://www.cthulhuthemovie.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:38:36 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: Now this is frightening (0% Hitchcock) kevin studyvin says: > Am I the last person in North America to find out about this, again? fear not. as ever, lauren, "the uninformed" - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:08:08 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Conversations with the Step (and Her Computer), Continued Robot Voice from Adjacent Room: ASSES. Me: (Raised eyebrow) RVFAR: ASSES. Stepdaughter (also from adjacent room): Darn it! Me: What's wrong, sweetheart? SD: I can't find out what this word means. Me: Spell it for me. SD: A-S-S-E-S. Me: What? SD: A-S-S-E-S. Me: Well, that's... I mean, I think you know this, but it's a kind of rude word for rear ends, right? What's the context? SD: It's in this article for my assignment... Me: Wait, I read that article. It talks about the High Aswan Dam, but it shouldn't say-- SD: Hold on... (typing noises) Robot Voice: ASSESS. SD: Sorry... spelled it wrong. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:13:46 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Major lift (via the Fall) to my Friday On 4/18/08, Rex wrote: > > Over the past year I've been slowly picking up the small handful of Fall > studio records that I somehow missed the first time around, usually by > waiting for a cheap enough used copy to show up on Amazon. I'd just > ordered > "Cerebral Caustic", which I hadn't realized was as pivotal a record as it > is > (first of the second Brix period, but also the last with Craig Scanlon) > and > received it last night... and was pleased to discover that my eight bucks > had netted me the two-disc reissue version. Nice. The liner notes are > especially cool... one usually doesn't get much context with one's Fall > records. Neat little MES/BES interview at the end, too. What tracks are on the second disc? I dread the notion of having to rebuy my Fall library to get all the reissued stuff.... > > Anyways, as usual, it's a wonderful day for my cow-orkers, innocently > orking > their cows and being subjected yet again to my sustained dissection of a > record by that band. Similarly, there may be fegmaniax who occasionally > wonder why I don't just damn join a Fall mailing list. The answer to that > is, of course, that I'm scared to. I was sub'd to the Fallnet for several years, probably 5-10 years ago. It was kind of frightening, actually. Only a little, though - most people ignored the list guidelines that said it was absolutely prohibited to post sober. There was even a Buddhist! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:14:18 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Now this is frightening (0% Hitchcock) What are you guys talking about? On 4/18/08, (0% rh) wrote: > > kevin studyvin says: > > Am I the last person in North America to find out about this, again? > > > fear not. > > as ever, > lauren, "the uninformed" > > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the > buddha > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:15:52 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Conversations with the Step (and Her Computer), Continued On 4/18/08, Rex wrote: > > Robot Voice from Adjacent Room: ASSES. > > Me: (Raised eyebrow) > > RVFAR: ASSES. etc. You live in LA, so you must know some sitcom writers, no? Just an idea... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:35:01 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Major lift (via the Fall) to my Friday On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:13 PM, 2fs wrote: > What tracks are on the second disc? I dread the notion of having to rebuy > my Fall library to get all the reissued stuff.... > I wouldn't sweat it. Disc 2 has the relavent Peel Session (which you already have), a set of "Pre-Release Rough Mixes" (!) of most (not all) of the album tracks (seemingly same performances), two "Alternate Versions" (notably one of "Bonkers in Phoenix" which is heavier on Brix's actual song and lighter on the MES & ambient noise intrusions), and then the interview. Not essential, but cool. This is from a set of 2006 reissues by Castle Music, which seems to include 20 records: a potpourri of studio and live releases spanning from "Witch Trials" to "Light User Syndrome" (my favorite being, of course, CAS-36250-2, "Middle Class Revoly (sic)". Can't tell if they're all two-discers. Yeah, the idea of Fall re-purchasing is terrifying. Here's something else that's kind of scary: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/truveo/images/thumbnails/FA/93/FA935DC5C89DB5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://video.aol.com/video-detail/brix-smith-start-at-richard-nicholl/3290083477&h=90&w=120&sz=3&hl=en&start=13&um=1&tbnid=sOGZ0gINueCT3M:&tbnh=66&tbnw=88&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbrix%2Bsmith-start%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:38:36 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Now this is frightening (0% Hitchcock) http://www.cthulhuthemovie.com/ On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:14 PM, 2fs wrote: > What are you guys talking about? > > On 4/18/08, (0% rh) wrote: > > > > kevin studyvin says: > > > Am I the last person in North America to find out about this, again? > > > > > > fear not. > > > > as ever, > > lauren, "the uninformed" > > > > > > -- > > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the > > buddha > > > > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:29:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Re: Ed Lorenz On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > Weather wanker--is that like a roadgeek? All kinds of people (that means Benjamin and Stewart so far) are asking me about this. It's just what I've always called them because they can be complete a) geeks b) anoraks (for all you Brits) c) nerds d) weather hysterics As I wrote to Stewart, I have seen meteorologists nearly achieve climax over a particularly sweet synoptic weather map. It's all about the isobars. My husband excludes himself from this community as he is a dynamic meteorologist and wants nothing to do with maps ever again. When he was at MIT, we would simply gape at the undergrads and wonder if they would ever find love. They do, of course, but mostly with each other. MIT does have one of the coolest radio stations, however. Have a stepped on toes? I hope not. I am aware of what a wanker is, what wanking off is, etc. I did mean it in the masturbating sense and not in the total jerk sense. Jill, who is (trumpets blare) blissfully finished with work until mid-July ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:15:38 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Ed Lorenz On Apr 18, 2008, at 1:29 PM, Jill Brand wrote: > MIT does have one of the coolest radio stations, however. WMBR! Where I first heard "Give It To The Soft Boys"! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:32:36 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Ed Lorenz On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Jill Brand wrote: > > > All kinds of people (that means Benjamin and Stewart so far) are asking me > about this. It's just what I've always called them because they can be > complete > > a) geeks > b) anoraks (for all you Brits) And while she has your attention, there's this from the liner notes to that Fall reissue I was just talking about: MES: I write about ex-girlfriends, readies, the milkman... but never Brix. "Readies"? At first I thought it was "roadies" as the text is over a fold in the paper, but no... "readies". Who are these folks? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:38:01 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Ed Lorenz > And while she has your attention, there's this from the liner notes to > that > Fall reissue I was just talking about: > > MES: I write about ex-girlfriends, readies, the milkman... but never Brix. > > "Readies"? At first I thought it was "roadies" as the text is over a fold > in the paper, but no... "readies". Who are these folks? > Dude - you don't wanna know. My first thought when I saw "weather wankers" was trainspotters, followed by parrotheads. It's terrible the way we dehumanize each other with these arbitrary categories, just terrible... np Dawn Upshaw, The Girl With Orange Lips ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:42:43 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Ed Lorenz On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:38 PM, kevin studyvin > > Dude - you don't wanna know. My first thought when I saw "weather > wankers" was trainspotters, followed by parrotheads. It's terrible the way > we dehumanize each other with these arbitrary categories, just terrible... > Of course, the pro forma response to this would be a single dehumanizing term directed at you. I cannot avert this, but I can delay it by one post and quite possibly join you on the receiving end of a potentially pluralized epithet. Bring it. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:02:24 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: RH - NPR NPR today april 18th - interview in re song "a man's got to know his limitations Briggs" re - cool eleanore ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:57:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: the single dehumanizing term Here it is, Rex.... Eagles fan (and I don't mean a supporter of a Boston College team) Golly folks, I didn't mean to start a scandal. I can call these meteorologists something else. Something like "weather friends" or "nimbus nuts" or, well, I don't know. But let me tell you, Ray Davies was truly great at the Orpheum two weeks ago, and I expected to be bored. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:16:46 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Ed Lorenz Rex wrote: > > "Readies"? At first I thought it was "roadies" as the text is over a fold > in the paper, but no... "readies". Who are these folks? Readies = money. $$$. Moolah. Sponds. Ackers. As in "I haven't got the ..." Stewart ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #576 ********************************