From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #574 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, April 17 2008 Volume 16 : Number 574 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: vocalisms [Christopher Gross ] Re: vocalisms [Rex ] Re: vocalisms ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: vocalisms ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #573 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: vocalisms [2fs ] Re: vocalisms [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Vocalisms ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: Vocalisms ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: vocalisms ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Vocalisms ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: Vocalisms [craigie* ] Re: Vocalisms [Steve Talkowski ] RE: Vocalisms ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: vocalisms [Rex ] Re: Vocalisms [Rex ] Re: Vocalisms ["m swedene" ] NEW on DiME : Nick Lowe with RH El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, CA April 11, 2008 [HwyCDRrev] Re: vocalisms ["Stewart Russell" ] Re: Vocalisms [Rex ] Re: NEW on DiME : Nick Lowe with RH El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, CA April 11, 2008 ["m swedene" ] Re: Vocalisms [Rex ] [none] [Jeff Dwarf ] NEW on DiME: Robyn Hitchcock El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, CA April 11, 2008 [HwyCDRrev@] Re: NEW on DiME: Robyn Hitchcock El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, CA April 11, 2008 ["Stewart C. Russell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:23:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: vocalisms On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, 2fs wrote: > For some reason, a brief list occurred to me of brilliant vocal (but > non-singing, non-talking) moments: > > 1. Iggy's opening to "TV Eye" > 2. Daltrey's scream in "Won't Get Fooled Again" > 3. James Brown's entire career of grunts, sharp intakes of breath, yells, > bellows, howls, screams, and shudders. > > Any others? Blixa Bargeld's shrieks in "Seele Brennt." (That is Blixa, right?) - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:46:17 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: vocalisms On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: > > > Blixa Bargeld's shrieks in "Seele Brennt." (That is Blixa, right?) If it's shrieking, it's Blixa. > For some reason, a brief list occurred to me of brilliant vocal (but > non-singing, non-talking) moments: For some reason the first two things I thought of in response to this are female singers making vaguely toy-airplane-like noises, one being Chrissie Hynde right before the harmonica break in "Middle of the Road", the other being Vanessa Briscoe in "Beep" by Pylon. In a similar vein, you might include all the sea-creature noises from "Rock Lobster". I'm trying to steer clear of just a plain ol' scream. Does atonal whistling count? I'm thinking RH's "Devil's Radio" here. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:42:03 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: vocalisms Cab Calloway: "hidey-hidey-hidey-hi". Also, Zappa and his "rinna-hinna-hinna-hinna-hin"s. Not to mention David Crosby did a bunch of wordless stuff back in the last century that I'm still fond of. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:44:13 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: vocalisms Also I'm wondering if yr Elizabethan "hey nonny no" type material counts...? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:47:27 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #573 >------------------------------ > >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:49:11 -0400 >From: Steve Talkowski >Subject: REAP x2 > >The last of Walt's Nine Old Men, Ollie Johnston, 95 > >http://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/ollie-johnston-1912-2008 > > >- -Steve (back from my own family RIP over the weekend in AZ. My last >remaining grandparent - my Father's mother - Lorraine Tal, 87) Very sorry to hear that. A further reap to add to the latest list, BTW, is New Zealand singer Mahinarangi Tocker, 52, from complications after an asthma attack. Very sad - I met her a few years ago and she was as nice a person as she was a talented musician. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:41:16 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: vocalisms On 4/15/08, Rex wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: > > > > > > > Blixa Bargeld's shrieks in "Seele Brennt." (That is Blixa, right?) > > > > If it's shrieking, it's Blixa. Man, if there were a market for selling stuff that shrieks (I mean, aside from metal vocalists), I'd name my company "Blixa" and use that slogan. > For some reason, a brief list occurred to me of brilliant vocal (but > > non-singing, non-talking) moments: > > > For some reason the first two things I thought of in response to this are > female singers making vaguely toy-airplane-like noises, one being Chrissie > Hynde right before the harmonica break in "Middle of the Road" "Toy-airplane-like noises"? Yeesh, Rex: that's a *cat* noise. Chrissie will be around to whip you into shape any moment now. Oops - gave her my address instead. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:40:29 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: vocalisms Groucho Marx : "With a Hey-Nonny-Nonny and a Ha-Cha-Cha!" In a message dated 4/15/2008 11:44:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kstudyvin@gmail.com writes: Cab Calloway: "hidey-hidey-hidey-hi". Also, Zappa and his "rinna-hinna-hinna-hinna-hin"s. Not to mention David Crosby did a bunch of wordless stuff back in the last century that I'm still fond of. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:19:01 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: Vocalisms oh, man. robyn's in "Autumn Is Your Last Chance" is probably my fave passage in his ouevre (the end section of "You And Oblivion" is a strong contender). susan even and myself used to always swoon over this onlist back in the late-'90s. hmm...perhaps it doesn't count, considering that it's multi-tracked? cobain's howl at the closing of the *Unplugged* "In The Pines". i guess it's technically part of the word "shiver". but still. enigk's on "The Prophet" is pretty friggin' great. i was more than a little disappointed that he didn't perform it when i saw them live in support of *How It Feels*. maynard's got some keen moments, for sure. never really thought of them as daltrey-esque; but i suppose they could be considered so. ...god, i feel kinda stupid for not being able to think of more, 'cause it seems like there're quite many. by the way, is this not the bitchinest photo you've ever seen: ? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:19:01 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: Vocalisms oh, man. robyn's in "Autumn Is Your Last Chance" is probably my fave passage in his ouevre (the end section of "You And Oblivion" is a strong contender). susan even and myself used to always swoon over this onlist back in the late-'90s. hmm...perhaps it doesn't count, considering that it's multi-tracked? cobain's howl at the closing of the *Unplugged* "In The Pines". i guess it's technically part of the word "shiver". but still. enigk's on "The Prophet" is pretty friggin' great. i was more than a little disappointed that he didn't perform it when i saw them live in support of *How It Feels*. maynard's got some keen moments, for sure. never really thought of them as daltrey-esque; but i suppose they could be considered so. ...god, i feel kinda stupid for not being able to think of more, 'cause it seems like there're quite many. by the way, is this not the bitchinest photo you've ever seen: ? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:01:24 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: vocalisms Jonathan Richman, circa Rockin' & Romance: lots of guitar and bass mimic sounds. (great album, too) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 04:33:31 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Vocalisms > cobain's howl at the closing of the *Unplugged* "In The Pines". i guess > it's technically part of the word "shiver". but still. > > Yeah, what he said. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:47:46 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Vocalisms I still have a warm place in my heart for any of Roger Waters' howls iwth Pink Floyd on (to name but one) Careful with That Axe, Eugene (but there are others - thone which prefaces Another Brick pt 2 on The Wall is also a goodie...) Or any of Zombina's howls in any Skeletones songs. F'real. c* On 16/04/2008, kevin studyvin wrote: > > > cobain's howl at the closing of the *Unplugged* "In The Pines". i guess > > it's technically part of the word "shiver". but still. > > > > Yeah, what he said. > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:45:52 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Vocalisms On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:19 AM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > oh, man. robyn's in "Autumn Is Your Last Chance" is probably my fave > passage in his ouevre A hearty "me too" on this one. I continue to get goose bumps every time I listen to this track (and it's been in heavy rotation over the past 2 months) > ...god, i feel kinda stupid for not being able to think of more, > 'cause it > seems like there're quite many. The definitive one for me has to be Elvis Costello's intro and outro shriek from Man Out Of Time. It is the most literal and metaphorical time-warp device employed in my favourite song ever. - -Steve P.S. Last night's "Spectacle" taping at the SNL studios had Elvis interviewing Tony Bennett for a magical 80 minutes. Diana Krall was (of course) in attendance and Tony brought her on stage to sing and play "I've Got The World On A String." Tonight, Quail and LJ join myself and Jonlyn for the Lou Reed taping. Should be an interesting contrast from yesterday's interview! Steve Talkowski, Character Design | Animation Email stevetalkowski@mac.com | Web sketchbot.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:16:14 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Vocalisms Buddy Holly's vocal hiccups. Howling Wolf's howls. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:25:54 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: vocalisms On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:41 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 4/15/08, Rex wrote: > > > > > > "Toy-airplane-like noises"? Yeesh, Rex: that's a *cat* noise. > > Chrissie will be around to whip you into shape any moment now. > > Oops - gave her my address instead. > Dude, if you have a line that can order her up for this kind of stuff, be cool and share the wealth. Also, dibs. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:37:26 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Vocalisms On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Bachman, Michael >Howling Wolf's howls. Well, fuckin' a. And their analagous Beefheartian offspring. Squeal factor: Carrie Brownstein, "Call the Doctor", and Ari Up, "Shoplifting"... the latter of which may be the purest single rock and roll sound evar. Yoko. Kristin Hersh, notably "Aye-yi-yi-yi-yi / Ay yo, whoah ah ho aye oh, owooooooooh" from "A Feeling". A friend and I used that as the basic vocal sample in a big-beat techno-type song and people though it was Natasha Atlas or something. Sinead, Siouxsie, Mary Margaret O'Hara and Liz Fraser certainly have such moments... hard to pick the singular examples... Peter Gabriel, the shit at the beginning of "I Don't Remember", among others. Somebody make a mash-up of all this stuff, pronto. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:54:48 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: Vocalisms can't forget bjork's guttural grunts and groans ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:29:03 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: NEW on DiME : Nick Lowe with RH El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, CA April 11, 2008 Nick Lowe El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, CA April 11, 2008 Great show. Excellent recording. Opener Robyn Hitchcock guests on the last three songs. Peggy Sue is mainly Robyn with Nick strumming along. Robyn's strange opening set (strange even for him) will be uploaded separately. Sonics>Sony D7 DAT>ProTools (for level adjustment, compression, eq, and song separation)>flac Taped and mastered by JB. Please don't sell or convert to lossy format. Disc 1 (50:47) 1. People Change 2. Soulful Wind 3. When I Write the Book 4. What's Shaking on the Hill 5. Long-Limb Girl 6. Lately I've Let Things Slide 7. Has She Got A Friend 8. All Men Are Liars 9. I Trained Her To Love Me 10. I Read A Lot 11. Cruel To Be Kind 12. Heart 13. Man That I've Become 14. I Live On A Battlefield 15. Hope For Us All Disc 2 (31:17) 1. Without Love 2. Rome Wasn't Built in a Day 3. Shelley My Love 4. I Knew the Bride (When She Used to Rock n Roll) 5. What's So Funny ('Bout Peace, Love and Understanding)? - ----------------- 6. The Beast In Me 7. Hungry For Love (with Robyn Hitchcock) 8. If I Fell (with Robyn Hitchcock) 9. Peggy Sue (with Robyn Hitchcock) _http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=192873_ (http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=192873) **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:48:53 -0400 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: vocalisms Can't remember if it's Avey or Panda, but the ullulations on 'For Reverend Green' are the top. Don't forget Joanna Newsom's squeaks. But for the most unbelievable vocal, well, noises are from Inuit throat-singer Taga'aq. Grunts, squeaks - the works. Stewart On 4/16/08, Rex wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 9:41 PM, 2fs wrote: > > > On 4/15/08, Rex wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > "Toy-airplane-like noises"? Yeesh, Rex: that's a *cat* noise. > > > > Chrissie will be around to whip you into shape any moment now. > > > > Oops - gave her my address instead. > > > > Dude, if you have a line that can order her up for this kind of stuff, be > cool and share the wealth. Also, dibs. > > -Rex > - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:05:15 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Vocalisms On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:54 AM, m swedene wrote: > can't forget bjork's guttural grunts and groans Black Francis, my favorite of whose guttural yelps occur at the beginning of the b-side "Dancing the Manta Ray", and several of whose song are just self-described nonverbal bullshit... Oh, and how bout David Byrne's unintellible squawks on the live version of "Artists Only" from TNOTBITH? That's good stuff. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:05:31 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: NEW on DiME : Nick Lowe with RH El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, CA April 11, 2008 Wahoo! THANK YOU! On 4/16/08, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > Nick Lowe > El Rey Theatre > Los Angeles, CA > April 11, 2008 > > Great show. Excellent recording. Opener Robyn Hitchcock guests on the last > three songs. Peggy Sue is mainly Robyn with Nick strumming along. > > Robyn's strange opening set (strange even for him) will be uploaded > separately. > > > Sonics>Sony D7 DAT>ProTools (for level adjustment, compression, eq, and song > separation)>flac > > Taped and mastered by JB. Please don't sell or convert to lossy format. > > > Disc 1 (50:47) > > 1. People Change > 2. Soulful Wind > 3. When I Write the Book > 4. What's Shaking on the Hill > 5. Long-Limb Girl > 6. Lately I've Let Things Slide > 7. Has She Got A Friend > 8. All Men Are Liars > 9. I Trained Her To Love Me > 10. I Read A Lot > 11. Cruel To Be Kind > 12. Heart > 13. Man That I've Become > 14. I Live On A Battlefield > 15. Hope For Us All > > Disc 2 (31:17) > > 1. Without Love > 2. Rome Wasn't Built in a Day > 3. Shelley My Love > 4. I Knew the Bride (When She Used to Rock n Roll) > 5. What's So Funny ('Bout Peace, Love and Understanding)? > ----------------- > 6. The Beast In Me > 7. Hungry For Love (with Robyn Hitchcock) > 8. If I Fell (with Robyn Hitchcock) > 9. Peggy Sue (with Robyn Hitchcock) > > _http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=192873_ > (http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=192873) > > > > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:06:51 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: NEW on DiME : Nick Lowe with RH El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, CA April 11, 2008 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:29 AM, wrote: > Robyn's strange opening set (strange even for him) will be uploaded > separately. Oh, man, am I going to rue missing this even more than I'd feared? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:55:16 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Vocalisms Um -- Yoko Ono? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:32:46 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Vocalisms 2008/4/16 The Great Quail : > > > Um -- Yoko Ono? Rex reaches back several posts and quotes himself: > Yoko. Shock abates, emphatic gesturing trails off, one hopes! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:23:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: [none] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_MrxgLz-v0&feature=related "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:30:44 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: NEW on DiME: Robyn Hitchcock El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, CA April 11, 2008 Robyn Hitchcock El Rey Theatre Los Angeles, CA April 11, 2008 Opening for Nick Lowe. A strange show, even for Robyn Hitchcock. You would think most openers would play their most well known songs, but not this guy. Very random setlist and lots of wacky stories. But, any show that includes Idonia and Ghost Ship is all great. Excellent sound. Sonic Studios mic>Sony D7 DAT>ProTools (for level adjustment, eq, compression, and song separation)>Flac Taped and mastered by JB. Please don't sell or convert to lossy format. (45:15) 1 Heaven 2 Balloon Man 3 Trilobite 4 Idonia 5 I Something You 6 Red Locust Frenzy 7 Ghost Ship 8 Ole! Tarantula 9 The Human Song http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=192907 **************Need a new ride? 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The Robyn/Mick connection is thus established: I think that at some date in the near future, Hitchcock discovers a time machine, and he travels back in time to influence Mick's grandparents to name their son "Basil Fanshawe." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #574 ********************************