From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #572 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, April 14 2008 Volume 16 : Number 572 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #570 [gaseous clay ] Devastating [Tom Clark ] Re: Devastating [FSThomas ] Re: Nick Lowe - April 9, 2008 (DIG AUD) NYC Hitchcock Costello - DIME ["(] Re: By way of introduction ["Marc Holden" ] Re: By way of introduction ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: By way of introduction ["kevin studyvin" ] RE: By way of introduction [Michael Sweeney ] Hitchcock and backup musicians ["Jeremy Osner" ] Re: Hitchcock and backup musicians [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Hitchcock and backup musicians [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Nick Lowe - April 9, 2008 (DIG AUD) NYC Hitchcock Costello - DIME [cr] RE: Hitchcock and backup musicians ["Bachman, Michael" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:16:30 -0400 From: gaseous clay Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #570 one time at band camp, grutness@slingshot.co.nz said: > Talking of Winwood, am I alone in thinking that, despite its obviious > 80s production, "Arc of a diver" is an excellent album that seems to > have fallen off the critical radar? i haven't listened to that in a long while but i do remember liking it quite a bit back in the day. however, i remember being cheesed off by winwood's comments in press at-the-time about being an entertainer more than a musician more than the record. see : > In a far more subdued suite at the Omni Ambassador East, Winwood explained how three years earlier, after the relative failure of his album Talking Back to the Night, he had "decided to embrace the fact of being an entertainer." Straightforward as it may seem, the remark sounded strange coming from a man whose exquisite musicianship, outstanding voice and expansive musical vision had long set the standard of integrity. > > "This is probably a recent thing that I've realized, about music being entertainment," he said, his voice hoarse from the previous night's show. "I had a choice to go a couple of ways. If I was to say, 'Well, I'm a musician, not an entertainer', then I have no business going onstage with lights and trying to look ... I should be in the back doing the music and somebody else should be out front." > > "So you have the choice. You have to decide which way to go. I thought about it long and seriously, and I thought that if I sing songs to people, you can't deny it, you're an entertainer. It's not just 'I'm entertaining them' but actually 'I am an entertainer'." funny the things that stick with you for 20 years, huh? woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:14:46 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Devastating That's how Ben Ratliff described Nick Lowe's set last week in NYC, and if I needed one word to sum up Saturday night's performance at The Fillmore in San Francisco that would be it. It was my first time seeing Nick since 1983 and rather than jumping around in a skinny tie, this time I just sat there completely blown away by old songs I knew inside and out, as well as old and new songs I had never heard. He had the entire audience in the palm of his hand. Amazing. Robyn told us his opening set consisted of San Francisco songs: Selections from 'Eye', plus 'Ole Tarantula' and 'A Man's Gotta Know His Limitations, Briggs'. How 'One Long Pair of Eyes' fits in was a topic of discussion later on. He was in fine voice and playing some of the best guitar I've heard from him in a while. Known fegs in attendance: Nick Winkworth, Cynthia Peterson and Julie 'Helmut Poe'/'Blueberry'. All others missed a magic night. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:46:53 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Devastating Tom Clark wrote: > That's how Ben Ratliff described Nick Lowe's set last week in NYC, and > if I needed one word to sum up Saturday night's performance at The > Fillmore in San Francisco that would be it. It was my first time seeing > Nick since 1983 and rather than jumping around in a skinny tie, this > time I just sat there completely blown away by old songs I knew inside > and out, as well as old and new songs I had never heard. He had the > entire audience in the palm of his hand. Amazing. > Robyn told us his opening set consisted of San Francisco songs: > Selections from 'Eye', plus 'Ole Tarantula' and 'A Man's Gotta Know His > Limitations, Briggs'. How 'One Long Pair of Eyes' fits in was a topic > of discussion later on. He was in fine voice and playing some of the > best guitar I've heard from him in a while. > > Known fegs in attendance: Nick Winkworth, Cynthia Peterson and Julie > 'Helmut Poe'/'Blueberry'. All others missed a magic night. Where, where (?!?) is Atlanta on this jaunt? I are suxxing. - -f; ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:10:37 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: Nick Lowe - April 9, 2008 (DIG AUD) NYC Hitchcock Costello - DIME swedene says: > http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=192139 > > Nick Lowe > April 9, 2008 > Grand Ballroom > New York, NY, USA the show sounds great. thanks for upload. most rockin' part of the show: not mr. lowe, mr. costello, or even our boy, but the audience member at the very end going "HOLY SHIT! HOLY SHIT!" as ever, lauren p.s. swedene, was that you? 'fess up. p.p.s. another p.s. to swedene - so you're NimrodSonny. what's the hell's a NimrodSonny? and what's your avatar? one of the runaways? you've long been on my list of perplexing dime ids (yes, it's laminated.) - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:41:00 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: By way of introduction Jeremy asked: >> Yeah I know... I've seen PI trashed, not least by our man Hitchcock >> himself, and it always seems very strange to me. Are the A&M albums >> Element of Light, Globe of Frogs, Eye, Perspex Island, Respect? Jeff answered: >If I'm remembering, EoL wasn't on A&M (at least not initially) but >otherwise, the answer is "yes." Er, no... Element of Light was never on A&M, but was on Relativity and Glass Fish. Eye was not an A&M release either (TwinTone and Glass Fish). The A&M releases were: Globe of Frogs Queen Elvis Perspex Island and Respect Additionally, there were all sorts of odds and ends to hunt down. There was a nice CD promo release of Respect called Spectre with two alternate recordings and spoken intros to each song. There was also a short promo live release called Live Death (really worth finding). Most of the singles from that time also included unreleased b-sides and extras including covers of More Than This (Roxy Music), Eight Miles High (Byrds), the Ghost in You (Psychedelic Furs), Fairplay & Linden Arden Stole the Highlights (both Van Morrison songs-live), a live version of One Long Pair of Eyes with a great story intro, and hard to find songs like the Ruling Class, Dark Green Energy, Watch Your Intelligence, the Ghost Ship, the Live-In Years, Bright Fresh Flower, Alright Yeah, Globe of Frogs (Electric), Legalized Murder, and a live interview album with Deidre O Donahue. Hope YepRoc manages to put out a box of the A&M years at some point--so much out of print and hard to find stuff. Later, Marc This was my first post in a long time, at least since coming back from New Zealand, where I very nearly missed meeting up with James and his girlfriend Alice. It was only about a 30 minute visit with them, and I still came fairly close to missing the ship heading out (the bagpipers were already playing the ship off and the entry was closed about 5 minutes after I boarded). James, you live in one of the nicest parts of the world, and I hope to make it back again someday, but without the strict time limit and scheduling difficulties, next time. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:36:58 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: By way of introduction > Most of the singles from that time also included unreleased b-sides and > extras including covers of More Than This (Roxy Music), Eight Miles High > (Byrds), the Ghost in You (Psychedelic Furs), Fairplay & Linden Arden Stole > the Highlights (both Van Morrison songs-live), a live version of One Long > Pair of Eyes with a great story intro, and hard to find songs like the > Ruling Class, Dark Green Energy, Watch Your Intelligence, the Ghost Ship, > the Live-In Years, Bright Fresh Flower, Alright Yeah, Globe of Frogs > (Electric), Legalized Murder, and a live interview album with Deidre O > Donahue. Hope YepRoc manages to put out a box of the A&M years at some > point--so much out of print and hard to find stuff. > Most, but by no means all, of those are on the (out-of print, but not that hard to find) A&M Egyptians Greatest Hits comp (More Than This, Eight Miles High, Ruling Class, Dark Green Energy and three-four more). Unfortunately A&M doesn't seem too interested in revisiting the Egyptians for some reason. As a big ol' Furs fan I'd like to hear that Ghost In You myself. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:52:19 -0700 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: By way of introduction > ...And, on your way in, be sure to choose your side in any of the various > never-ending debates going on in the Feggy posts: Buffy vs. BSG vs. > abstention; Lou vs. Cale; George W. Bush vs. the spoken English language; > Rex > vs. Eb (ret.); "I Often Dream of Trains" vs. "Eye"; Rush (the band) vs. > not; > liberals vs. Ferris; hating "Luxor" vs. not liking "Luxor"; "Shirtless > Spike" > vs. having a pizza delivered by Jenna Fischer; mellow saxophone vs. not so > much; Keith Moon vs. Bill Bruford; Apple vs. MS; math vs. arithmetic; > Peter > Buck vs. Tom Clark; and, of course, Man vs. The Empire Brain Building... > Checking back in here to reiterate that I'd rather my pizza be delivered by Melanie Lynskey, Nothing against Ms Fischer; I just lean more toward the brunette aisle where pizza is concerned. Also, trying to choose between Bruford and the Moon is like asking who'd win in a fight between Superman and the Hulk; it really doesn't matter since either of them could destroy any common mortal... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:25:31 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: By way of introduction ...I'm still just...not BITTER (hey, I don't live in PA)...but perhaps just disappointed (more in myself than in any of you) that my excellent, semi-obscure, and on-topic Was (Not Was) reference went unnoticed (or at least unremarked-upon). Frankly, I was kinda counting on ya, Mr. 2fs... Michael "No Fs, but 6 Es (if ya include my middle name, too)" Sweeney Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:52:19 -0700From: kstudyvin@gmail.comTo: m_l_sweeney@hotmail.comSubject: Re: By way of introductionCC: fegmaniax@smoe.org; anacreon@gmail.com ...And, on your way in, be sure to choose your side in any of the variousnever-ending debates going on in the Feggy posts: Buffy vs. BSG vs.abstention; Lou vs. Cale; George W. Bush vs. the spoken English language; Rexvs. Eb (ret.); "I Often Dream of Trains" vs. "Eye"; Rush (the band) vs. not;liberals vs. Ferris; hating "Luxor" vs. not liking "Luxor"; "Shirtless Spike"vs. having a pizza delivered by Jenna Fischer; mellow saxophone vs. not somuch; Keith Moon vs. Bill Bruford; Apple vs. MS; math vs. arithmetic; PeterBuck vs. Tom Clark; and, of course, Man vs. The Empire Brain Building... Checking back in here to reiterate that I'd rather my pizza be delivered by Melanie Lynskey, Nothing against Ms Fischer; I just lean more toward the brunette aisle where pizza is concerned. Also, trying to choose between Bruford and the Moon is like asking who'd win in a fight between Superman and the Hulk; it really doesn't matter since either of them could destroy any common mortal... _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ instantaccess_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:46:24 -0400 From: "Jeremy Osner" Subject: Hitchcock and backup musicians Anyone want to talk about how much beauty is in the interaction between Hitchcock and the various people he performs with? I am thinking specifically of: Metcalf, Windsor, Deni Bonet*, Grant Phillips, Captain Keegan. I don't really notice that much of a spark between him and the Venus 3 musicians but perhaps one exists there too. It makes me a little sorry that he performs solo so much of the time -- I mean he is great on his own, and his guitar technique really shines in isolation; but there's just something transcendental and a little bit pornographic that happens when he is on stage with another musician. It was surely in evidence during the encores Wednesday night. J *I'm sure you guys all know already about her YouTube videos with her and Robyn and her and Kimberly Ren; in case not, here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=DeniBonet -- video quality is pretty variable but some of it is really, really nice. - -- READIN 2.0 http://www.readin.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:52:10 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Hitchcock and backup musicians he seems slightly uptight ( certainly not relaxed) with the Venus 3 - either live or on that Showtime special The drummer and Warlock seem to be real jerks In a message dated 4/14/2008 6:48:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, anacreon@gmail.com writes: I don't really notice that much of a spark between him and the Venus 3 musicians **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:05:37 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Hitchcock and backup musicians - --On 14. April 2008 06:46:24 -0400 Jeremy Osner wrote: > Anyone want to talk about how much beauty is in the interaction > between Hitchcock and the various people he performs with? I am > thinking specifically of: Metcalf, Windsor, Deni Bonet*, Grant > Phillips, Captain Keegan. I don't really notice that much of a spark > between him and the Venus 3 musicians but perhaps one exists there > too. It makes me a little sorry that he performs solo so much of the > time -- I mean he is great on his own, and his guitar technique really > shines in isolation; but there's just something transcendental and a > little bit pornographic that happens when he is on stage with another > musician. It was surely in evidence during the encores Wednesday > night. Hm, I've only seen him a few times with band. One time was with Chris Cox and Morris Windsor, one with the Egyptians and one with the Venus 3. I have to say that I have no idea what you are talking about! I don't recall any special interaction between him and other band members during any of those shows. Note that the first two were nearly twenty years ago, so my memory isn't exactly fresh. The most initimate such relation I've ever seen was Neil Young & Crazy Horse. They're something else live! - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:46:23 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: By way of introduction On 4/14/08, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > ...I'm still just...not BITTER (hey, I don't live in PA)...but perhaps > just > disappointed (more in myself than in any of you) that my excellent, > semi-obscure, and on-topic Was (Not Was) reference went unnoticed (or at > least > unremarked-upon). Frankly, I was kinda counting on ya, Mr. 2fs... Sorry. I was milking some of my million cows. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:18:42 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Nick Lowe - April 9, 2008 (DIG AUD) NYC Hitchcock Costello - DIME It's a pun on the Pixies' song "Nimrod's Son" IIRC... I always thought it was that anyway... (I'm starboy on DaD - when I can post stuff, that is...) As for the avatar - I'll let Mike 'fess that one... c* On 14/04/2008, (0% rh) wrote: > > swedene says: > > > http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=192139 > > > > Nick Lowe > > April 9, 2008 > > Grand Ballroom > > New York, NY, USA > > > the show sounds great. thanks for upload. > > most rockin' part of the show: not mr. lowe, mr. costello, or even our > boy, but the audience member at the very end going "HOLY SHIT! HOLY > SHIT!" > > as ever, > lauren > > p.s. swedene, was that you? 'fess up. > > p.p.s. another p.s. to swedene - so you're NimrodSonny. what's the > hell's a NimrodSonny? and what's your avatar? one of the runaways? > you've long been on my list of perplexing dime ids (yes, it's > laminated.) > > -- > "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc (the motto of the Addams Family: "We gladly feast on those who would subdue us") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:05:36 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Hitchcock and backup musicians - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Sebastian Hagedorn Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 7:06 AM To: fegs Subject: Re: Hitchcock and backup musicians - --On 14. April 2008 06:46:24 -0400 Jeremy Osner wrote: > >Anyone want to talk about how much beauty is in the interaction > >between Hitchcock and the various people he performs with? I am > >thinking specifically of: Metcalf, Windsor, Deni Bonet*, Grant > >Phillips, Captain Keegan. I don't really notice that much of a spark > >between him and the Venus 3 musicians but perhaps one exists there > >too. It makes me a little sorry that he performs solo so much of the > >time -- I mean he is great on his own, and his guitar technique really > >shines in isolation; but there's just something transcendental and a > >little bit pornographic that happens when he is on stage with another > >musician. It was surely in evidence during the encores Wednesday > >night. >Hm, I've only seen him a few times with band. One time was with Chris Cox and Morris Windsor, one with the >Egyptians and one with the Venus 3. I have to say that I have no idea what you are talking about! I don't recall >any special interaction between him and other band members during any of those shows. Note that the first two >were nearly twenty years ago, so my memory isn't exactly fresh. >The most initimate such relation I've ever seen was Neil Young & Crazy Horse. They're something else live! Gram Parsons and Emmylou Harris were reported to have been almost glued to one another and staring into each others eyes on the slower songs of the 1973 Fallen Angels tour. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:16:30 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: Nick Lowe - April 9, 2008 (DIG AUD) NYC Hitchcock Costello - DIME innocent i tell ya. it is an Irving Klaw photo of Bettie Page. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:13:35 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: 2008! All the fucking way, bitches! '08 is very quickly overtaxing my vocabularic faculties; so i'll just say the this new elbow disc is at least third on my personal hit-parade, after devotchka and the foals...but it may yet move higher. oh, has anybody heard this band called "does it offend you, yeah?" (or some such-like)? seems to be appealing to the kids. but i detest the name so much, that i'm loathe to check it out -- unless i hear from a reputable source that it's so good as to overcome the name's butt-awful stank. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #572 ********************************