From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #571 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, April 13 2008 Volume 16 : Number 571 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: By way of introduction [Michael Sweeney ] Re: movie talk (non-movie digression division) [Michael Sweeney ] Re: By way of introduction ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: great band name [Rex ] Re: By way of introduction [Rex ] Robyn 04/08/09 Torrent on Dime ["m swedene" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #570 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: great band name [2fs ] Re: By way of introduction [2fs ] Re: By way of introduction ["(0% rh)" ] RE: great band name [Michael Sweeney ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #570 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Music Review | Nick Lowe Regular Guy Keeping Stock of Rock Roots, Aging Present [HwyCDRre] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #570 [2fs ] RE: By way of introduction ["michael wells" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:05:26 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: By way of introduction Rex wrote: e. "Perpex Island" (seriously, can there be any real debate about this? ) >You'd be surprised (and I'm surprised nobody's jumped on this yet)... a lot of people rate PI rather lowly, citing dated prodution and subpar songs. I actually like it a lot; it's my second-favorited of the A&M albums and as far as I'm concerned it's the jangle-rock record that so many bands were trying to make in the '80's and failing. But I tend to like that kind of thing.< > >The perennial favorite around here tends to be "Element of Light", unless you start counting Soft Boys records.< ...I also like "PI" quite a bit ("Respect" and "Fegmania!" too) -- I guess what I was getting at with the "IODOT" vs. "Eye" debate query was "Which is your fave 'green' acoustic RH album?" Although...those two are probably my top faves of all (along with SB's "UM"). (For my GF, it's prob. "EOL," due to her love of all things "Airscape;" as for me, I prefer "Winchester" and the bonuses of "The Leopard" and "Tell Me About Your Drugs.") Michael "'Tell me, Morris!'" Sweeney Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:03:45 -0700From: spottedeagleray@gmail.comTo: anacreon@gmail.comSubject: Re: By way of introductionCC: m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com; fegmaniax@smoe.org e. "Perpex Island" (seriously, can there be any real debate about this? ) You'd be surprised (and I'm surprised nobody's jumped on this yet)... a lot of people rate PI rather lowly, citing dated prodution and subpar songs. I actually like it a lot; it's my second-favorited of the A&M albums and as far as I'm concerned it's the jangle-rock record that so many bands were trying to make in the '80's and failing. But I tend to like that kind of thing. The perennial favorite around here tends to be "Element of Light", unless you start counting Soft Boys records. - -Rex _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ instantaccess_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:34:25 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: movie talk (non-movie digression division) Kevin wrote: >Which reminded me that during the brief psychedelic revival of the 1980s Iused to see flyers for a local band called The. I wish I'd seen them play,if only for the bragging rights...< ... All the COOL kids pronounced it "Thee" -- but you would've known that if you'd been there... Michael "Why do I feel like I'm suddenly channeling Rex (in a good way)?" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:52:58 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: great band name Rex wrote: >That reminds me of a few belated "Death-" artist names, neither of which fitmy original British Invasion specs, but what the hell:<> >Regina Spector of Death (or Ronnie... or god forbid Phil...) ...Hey, I did "Phil Spector of Death" (AND "Iron Death and the Maiden") back during the original call for entries...(I know -- neither also were Brit Invasion...) Michael "Now, Rex is channeling ME (and, I swear, I wrote my previous 'stinger' before I even saw this...nice set-op synchronicity)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ getintouch_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:53:46 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: By way of introduction Rex wrote: > > The perennial favorite around here tends to be "Element of Light", unless > you start counting Soft Boys records. The favourite tends to be IODOT if the poster is in a band, it seems to me (except you, maybe, Rex). Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:57:48 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: great band name On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > Rex wrote: > > > >That reminds me of a few belated "Death-" artist names, neither of which > fit > my original British Invasion specs, but what the hell:< > > > >Regina Spector of Death (or Ronnie... or god forbid Phil...) > > > ...Hey, I did "Phil Spector of Death" (AND "Iron Death and the Maiden") > back during the original call for entries...(I know -- neither also were > Brit Invasion...) > Sorry about that... I remember it now. I think Regina's is spelt with a "k", too, so double bad on me. I don't guess "Ron Deadwood" quite cuts it either, huh? - -Rex "What about Peter Green Death, for the mutual Fleetwood Mac/Doctor Who fan contingent out there? No? Okay, sorry" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:19:39 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: By way of introduction On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Rex wrote: > > > > > The perennial favorite around here tends to be "Element of Light", > > unless > > you start counting Soft Boys records. > > > > The favourite tends to be IODOT if the poster is in a band, it seems to me > (except you, maybe, Rex). > Hmm... IODOT seems to be a close second in Feg opinion (although I don't recall a poll being done for many years), but I'd never made the band-having-poster-predilection connection before. Would it follow that the feg folkies are particularly enamored of GLTHO (or OT, for that matter)? I think my favorite may just well remain my first, "Globe of Frogs". Soft Boys excepted, again, of course. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:49:40 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Robyn 04/08/09 Torrent on Dime http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=192264 Robyn Hitchcock April 9, 2008 Grand Ballroom New York, NY, USA Digital Master Audience Recording Recorded from floor 15 feet back from stage right stacks Sony ECM 719 > Edirol R-09 > 24 bit 44.1 kHz wav > Fission (for splitting tracks) > Toast 8 (FLAC) > flac8 Recorded and Produced by midy Photo credits to TRIXIEMERC & Justache Wow! What a show! Robyn Hitchcock and Elvis Costello round out the night. Amazing. There are some HIGH END issues towards the end when all the crowd was squealing when Elvis came out and joined the fine British fellas. I hope you enjoy the show! midy 01 *** Introduction Story (Travel by Duck) ^ 02 Heaven 03 Daisy Bomb 04 *** Live Tuning 05 I Got The Hots 06 *** Robyn & Nick Connection 07 Wax Doll 08 Cheese Alarm 09 *** Consensus (more tuning) 10 Full Moon In My Soul 11 One Long Pair Of Eyes 12 *** Ghandi and his Telecaster 13 Glass Hotel 14 I Declare that We Are Free Encore (Nick Lowe's) 25 ** ("Insertion Music) # 26 Hungry For Love # (John Kidd & The Pirates) 27 Indoor Fireworks $ 28 If I Fell (Beatles) #$ 29 Mystery Train (Elvis Presley) #$ ^ missing first minute # with Nick Lowe $ with Elvis Costello There is a bit of a buzz on Glass Hotel, thanks to someone's iPhone causing some grief for me. Ugh. Enjoy! Here is a sample MP3 of "One long Pair of Eyes": http://www.sendspace.com/file/gf5qvp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:04:50 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #570 I'll also jump on the Perspex Island support bandwagon - it was the first album that hooked me on RH's solo work, though i'd known Underwater Moonlight a few years earlier. PI was - or at least seems to have been - a deliberate attempt to write something "commercial", and SYTYIL should have been a hit single. It perhaps hasn't worn as well as some of our man's other works, but it's still got some great songs on it. A big welcome to Jeremy, BTW. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:50:52 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: great band name On 4/11/08, Rex wrote: > > > > > -Rex "What about Peter Green Death, for the mutual Fleetwood Mac/Doctor > Who > fan contingent out there? No? Okay, sorry" Broome Nah...but "Soylent Peter Green"? That's a winner. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:53:41 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: By way of introduction On 4/11/08, Jeremy Osner wrote: > > Yeah I know... I've seen PI trashed, not least by our man Hitchcock > himself, and it always seems very strange to me. Are the A&M albums > Element of Light, Globe of Frogs, Eye, Perspex Island, Respect? If I'm remembering, EoL wasn't on A&M (at least not initially) but otherwise, the answer is "yes." Someone should point our new lad Jeremy toward the Big Giant Huge Robyn Torrent...I lost my link to it (though I'm still hosting it - there's probably some genius way to figure out such from whatsit, but I'm an idjit ticknorogerly) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:34:10 -0400 From: "(0% rh)" Subject: Re: By way of introduction 2fs says: > Someone should point our new lad Jeremy toward the Big Giant Huge Robyn > Torrent...I lost my link to it (though I'm still hosting it - there's > probably some genius way to figure out such from whatsit, but I'm an idjit > ticknorogerly) awhile ago, Stacked said, in his "CHRISTXMAS COME EARLY MOTHERFUCK-ERS!" thread: > . > > demonoid is down (possibly for the count), so using piratebay instead. > registration not required to download torrent. > > yes, the armageddon version of "Man Who Invented" is included. oh yes, it > is. BTW, i believe I thanked eddie for the upload, but i've yet to thank him for his impressive organizational skills. what a lovely heap of files! i couldn't have done better myself. xo - -- "people with opinions just go around bothering one another." -- the buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:49:17 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: great band name Jeff wrote: >Nah...but "Soylent Peter Green"?>>That's a winner. "It's people! Soylent Green is made out of people!...You've gotta tell them!" "Oh well..." Michael "Hey, as resident F. Mac guy, it was nearly my listm duty to make that joke" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Pack up or back upuse SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh _skydrive_packup_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:55:32 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #570 >was just listening to Clapton/Winwood night 2 MSG I always thought there was something odd about the Clapton/Winwood thing. They worked great together - briefly - in the overblown yet still underrated Blind Faith, but for a while there in the eighties it sounds like they were deliberately writing songs that would have sound better sung by each other. I'm thinking particularly of some of Winwood's songs like "Freedom overspill" and Clapton songs like "Forever man" (both past the prime of these two artists as soloists, mind you). Talking of Winwood, am I alone in thinking that, despite its obviious 80s production, "Arc of a diver" is an excellent album that seems to have fallen off the critical radar? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:15:41 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Music Review | Nick Lowe Regular Guy Keeping Stock of Rock Roots, Aging Present http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/11/arts/music/11lowe.html/partner/rssnyt?_r=1& a dxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1208013092-OLDY4oV/zD7m/VD13gy65Q Music Review | Nick Lowe Regular Guy Keeping Stock of Rock Roots, Aging Present By BEN RATLIFF Published: April 11, 2008 Nick Lowebs public ambition is pressed down beneath strata of irony, modesty, stylish self-effacement. Now 59 and tall, thin, white-haired and well dressed, he appears to have little to do with any of the phases of rock that happened around him in his youth b British invasion, glam, folk, punk. Hebs sunny, mordant and normative. He looks like Dick Van Dyke. If thatbs all a pose b if there really is a grasping, narcissistic, status-seeking pop monster inside him b then wow, hebs good at it. On Wednesday at the Manhattan Centerbs Grand Ballroom, he gave an elegant and nearly devastating performance with just his acoustic guitar, his voice and a little bit of reverb; his charisma was restricted to his rhymes and cadences, the measured control of his playing and singing. Itbs spooky to see such excellence from a regular guy. In the late b70s and early b80s, as a member of Rockpile and on his solo records, he was fascinated by youth and vitality as it played out in pop. (He also produced a string of Elvis Costellobs early albums.) Now he has allowed himself to sound older, and he has become fascinated by aging and disengagement. He often sang from the minds of emotional freaks: people morbidly over- or underconfident. In bI Trained Her to Love Me,b a song from his recent album bAt My Age,b his character gets up every day and breaks womenbs hearts as if itbs an office job. In a new song, bI Read a Lot,b he presents the opposite: a man who has pathetically redirected his love to printed words from a woman. bNot just magazines,b mind you, bbut much more serious things toob: bI canbt put it down/While others are painting the town/Youbll find me in a world of fantasy/Population one: thatbs me.b This comes from the part of him thatbs fascinated by the work of b50s and b 60s country songwriters like Leon Payne and Hank Cochran: unreliable-narrator songs packing together the mundane and the wretched. But Mr. Lowe also has a light touch as a reliable narrator. Another song from bAt My Ageb offers only the truth, and it isnbt lame: bPeople change, thatbs the long and short of it/Prepare yourself.b Mr. Lowe is still a formalist, putting his own conceits within styles he reveres. He borrows a riff or a vocal cadence from songs like bSpanish Harlemb and bWake Up Little Susie.b And his voice takes on the delivery of older singers; he seems to have merged the cadences, phrasing and melodic patterns of Sam Cooke and Johnny Cash. This all might suggest retro fascination, with that posturebs attendant coldness, but thatbs not it at all. Mr. Lowe works with moderation and understatement. He translates passion into fondness, charisma into mild charm. He seems to dare us to take him seriously, but we should. Opening the show with another solo acoustic set was Robyn Hitchcock, who is four years younger than Mr. Lowe and the same as ever: a half-joking parody of British psychedelia. His was a rarefied weirdobs game from the start; thereb s no need to update it, really. At the end, after a rearrangement of microphones, Mr. Costello came out to sing his composition bIndoor Fireworksb with Mr. Lowe. Mr. Hitchcock joined them for the Beatlesb bIf I Fell,b singing the John Lennon line while Mr. Lowe sang high harmony. The three singers closed with Junior Parker and Sam Phillipsbs bMystery Train.b This was casual and fine, but after the austerity of Mr. Lowebs set, it felt like nothing special. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:26:28 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #570 On 4/11/08, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > > > Talking of Winwood, am I alone in thinking that, despite its obviious 80s > production, "Arc of a diver" is an excellent album that seems to have fallen > off the critical radar? I should dig that one up - I can only recall the title track, which nicely melded Viv Stanshall's surrealistic lyrical approach to Winwood's soul-influenced vocals. Also I just like the idea that a semi-hit song had a chorus whose lyrics began "jealous night and all her secret chords / I must be deaf on the telephone"... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 10:29:38 -0700 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: By way of introduction > BTW, i believe I thanked eddie for the upload, but i've yet to thank him for his impressive organizational skills. what a lovely heap of files! i couldn't have done better myself. Seconded. This was a godsend for those of us with Robyn collections scattered across media and storage locations. Major kudos to Eddie! Now maybe he can get to work torrenting the complete "Wanderlust" series... Michael ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #571 ********************************