From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest)
To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org
Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #570
Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org
Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org
Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org
Precedence: bulk


fegmaniax-digest        Friday, April 11 2008        Volume 16 : Number 570



                               Today's Subjects:
                               -----------------
  Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!                    [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!                      [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>]
  Nick Lowe - April 9, 2008 (DIG AUD) NYC Hitchcock Costello - DIME  ["m swe]
  Re: Can '08 top '06? Maybe!                             [HwyCDRrev@aol.com]
  Stones orgy                                             [HwyCDRrev@aol.com]
  Stones orgy                                             [HwyCDRrev@aol.com]
  Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!                 ["Stacked Crooked" <etews@inwa.net>]
  great band name                                         [HwyCDRrev@aol.com]
  Re: movie talk                     ["kevin studyvin" <kstudyvin@gmail.com>]
  Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!                    [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: great band name                       [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: movie talk                            [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: By way of introduction      [Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>]
  Re: By way of introduction            ["Jeremy Osner" <anacreon@gmail.com>]
  RE: Can '08 top '06? Maybe!  ["Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrob]
  Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!                      [2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>]
  Re: Can '08 top '06? Maybe!               [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  RE: Can '08 top '06? Maybe! Dual guitars!  ["Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Ba]
  More video surfaces (Costello, Lowe, Hitchcock)  ["m swedene" <m.swedene@g]
  Re: Can '08 top '06? Maybe! Dual guitars!  [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com]
  Re: Can '08 top '06? Maybe!                             [HwyCDRrev@aol.com]
  Previously on Lost...            [Steve Talkowski <stevetalkowski@mac.com>]
  Re: By way of introduction                [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: By way of introduction            ["Jeremy Osner" <anacreon@gmail.com>]
  Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!                         [Tom Clark <tclark@mac.com>]
  Re: By way of introduction      [Carrie Galbraith <meketone@ix.netcom.com>]

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:16:31 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Stacked Crooked <etews@inwa.net> wrote:

> <Because I am an insane person, I decided I'd download everything there
> that
> I didn't already have (note: absolutely pathetic that I didn't have some
> of
> these things digitally - some old LPs or tapes, though). However, being a
> cheap insane person, I decided that I didn't want to download the exact
> same
> track more than once.>
>
> maybe i'm missing something.  but why didn't you just download the disco
> from your favourite bittorrent site, and then have your tagging software
> deal with duplicates?
>

I'll just chime in here and say that the tagging program I tried last week
made a total hash out of a perfectly decent Memphis Minnie compilation, and
tried turn a Sonic Youth concert into what looked like a bunch of stray
album tracks, up to and including renumbering all the tracks as if they were
in their studio album sequence, despite completely different run times.
Sometime you gotta do stuff the old fashioned way.  If you are, as I may be,
an insane person.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:47:43 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!

On 4/10/08, Stacked Crooked <etews@inwa.net> wrote:
>
> <Because I am an insane person, I decided I'd download everything there
> that
> I didn't already have (note: absolutely pathetic that I didn't have some
> of
> these things digitally - some old LPs or tapes, though). However, being a
> cheap insane person, I decided that I didn't want to download the exact
> same
> track more than once.>
>
> maybe i'm missing something.  but why didn't you just download the disco
> from your favourite bittorrent site, and then have your tagging software
> deal with duplicates?


Torrents of that size usually take idiot-long lengths of time for me, for
one thing; for another, last time I looked on one of them there usenet
thingies, it was crammed full of like 50,000 different versions of crap I
didn't like, from sources I don't know where, whereas I know exactly what
I'm getting from eMusic at the princely sum of like 39 cents each. The time
it might take me to figure out how to find exactly what I want (and not,
say, rips from the 1987 version of the same album) would cost me a hell of a
lot more than 39 cents per song from a known source.

Honestly, I don't understand the enthusiasm for getting every damned thing
via usenet. As it is I end up with nearly more music than I have time to
listen to, without even trying particularly hard or paying anything.

As for the tagging software thing: tags are not going to be able to
distinguish between the 2:39 mono version and the 2:39 stereo version of the
same title, nor are they going to recognize that the 2:39 stereo version
from one album is, in fact, identical (but for two more seconds of silence,
or maybe a slower fade) with the 2:41 stereo version from a different album.
Or rather, they might - but only if someone else already did, accurately,
what I did myself.

And as I've complained a zillion times, online tags for song files are
obnoxiously inaccurate.

Nope: this is a definitely a case of if I want something done right, do it
myself.

- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:59:56 -0400
From: "m swedene" <m.swedene@gmail.com>
Subject: Nick Lowe - April 9, 2008 (DIG AUD) NYC Hitchcock Costello - DIME

Come join the fun!

If anyone needs a copy of this, please let me know.

Mike


http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=192139

Nick Lowe
April 9, 2008
Grand Ballroom
New York, NY, USA

Digital Master Audience Recording
Recorded from floor
15 feet back from stage right stacks

Sony ECM 719 > Edirol R-09 > 24 bit 44.1 kHz wav >
Fission (for splitting tracks) > Toast 8 (FLAC) > flac8

Recorded and Produced by
midy

Photo credits to
TRIXIEMERC & Justache

Wow! What a show! Robyn Hitchcock and Elvis Costello round out the night.
Amazing. There are some HIGH END issues towards the end when all the crowd
was squealing when Elvis came out and joined the fine British fellas. I hope
you enjoy the show!

midy

01 People Change
02 Soulful Wind
03 *** Chit Chat
04 When I Write the Book
05 What's Shakin on the HIll
06 Long Limb GIrl
07 Lately I've Let Things Slide
08 Has She Got a Friend
09 All Men Are Liars
10 I Trained Her To Love Me
11 *** ("Change the Mood")
12 I Read Alot
13 One of These Days (?)
14 Cruel to Be Kind
15 Heart
16 Man That I've Become
17 Live on a Battlefield
18 Hope For Us All
19 Without Love
20 Rome Wasn't Built in a Day
21 Shelley My Love
22 I Knew the Bride (When She Used To Rock and Roll)
23 (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding?

Encore

24 The Beast In Me
25 ** ("Insertion Music) #
26 Hungry For Love # (John Kidd & The Pirates)
27 Indoor Fireworks $
28 If I Fell (Beatles) #$
29 Mystery Train (Elvis Presley) #$

# with Robyn Hitchcock
$ with Elvis Costello

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:00:50 EDT
From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Can '08 top '06? Maybe!

every once in a while 
Clapton wakes up and can still be great 
(usually when playing the blues)
 
 
In a message dated 4/10/2008 8:26:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kstudyvin@gmail.com writes:

Playing  in his sleep for decades.





**************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.    
  (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:03:31 EDT
From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com
Subject: Stones orgy 

there are different versions, edits, and mixes of various songs 
(esp. singles) 
if you care - which i think you do ( i certainly did )
 
In a message dated 4/10/2008 10:16:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
etews@inwa.net writes:
 
maybe  i'm missing something.  but why didn't you just download the  disco
from your favourite bittorrent site, and then have your tagging  software
deal with duplicates?




**************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.    
  (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:10:10 EDT
From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com
Subject: Stones orgy 

i did it the old fashioned way 
buying CDs after looking them up on the internet 
 
i found that i could do without these and still have everything (from my  
memory <motel>) :
don't need UK Out Of Our Heads 
don't need US Aftermath 
Pick either UK or US version of Between The Buttons (pick the UK, I  say)
Pick either Big Hits together with  Through The Past Darkly 
                OR  Hot Rocks (64-71)
 
so that should help for starters  . . 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/10/2008 10:55:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com writes:

Nope:  this is a definitely a case of if I want something done right, do  it
myself.




**************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.    
  (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:03:46 -0700
From: "Stacked Crooked" <etews@inwa.net>
Subject: Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!

<Torrents of that size usually take idiot-long lengths of time for me, for
one thing>

shouldn't take any longer than downloading from e-music.  actually, though
i don't know how fast emusic's servers are, i'd bet that it'd download
quite a bit faster.  i do agree that usenet's not the best horse for this
particular type of race.


<Honestly, I don't understand the enthusiasm for getting every damned thing
via usenet. As it is I end up with nearly more music than I have time to
listen to, without even trying particularly hard or paying anything.>

heh heh, that's certainly true.  i'm in the middle of an embargo right now,
actually; so as i can get all caught up.  who knows the gems i'll miss;
but, i expect that life will go on.


<As for the tagging software thing: tags are not going to be able to
distinguish between the 2:39 mono version and the 2:39 stereo version of
the
same title>

the tags won't, but the *software* will.


<nor are they going to recognize that the 2:39 stereo version
from one album is, in fact, identical (but for two more seconds of silence,
or maybe a slower fade) with the 2:41 stereo version from a different
album.>

well, again, it'd depend upon how you had your filters set up.


<And as I've complained a zillion times, online tags for song files are
obnoxiously inaccurate.>

actually, your best bet in this case would probably've been to check some
stones fansite that would've listed all the details you were needing.
unless, of course, you actually *enjoyed* the project.  i don't think that
*i* would have...but that's, clearly, a matter of to each their own.


<Nope: this is a definitely a case of if I want something done right, do it
myself.>

i'll agree to disagree.  but if you're not unhappy to've spent the time
doing it, then i won't feel any need to be unhappy on your behalf.


<I'll just chime in here and say that the tagging program I tried last week
made a total hash out of a perfectly decent Memphis Minnie compilation, and
tried turn a Sonic Youth concert into what looked like a bunch of stray
album tracks, up to and including renumbering all the tracks as if they
were
in their studio album sequence, despite completely different run times.
Sometime you gotta do stuff the old fashioned way.  If you are, as I may
be,
an insane person.>

still with the tagging demons??  do macintosheses not allow the "undo"
feature in their softwareses?

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:28:34 EDT
From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com
Subject: great band name 

Great band name  :                                     
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55816

Dead Kenny  G's 2008-03-17 Denver, CO (16-bit) (FLAC) 


"Kenny G walks into an  elevator and says -
Man - This Place Rocks ! "
- - joke  courtesy Richard Thompson  




**************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.    
  (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:52:14 -0700
From: "kevin studyvin" <kstudyvin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: movie talk

> > You gotta love the band names he puts on his all-star pickup bands.  The
> > Venus in Furs... it's the "the" that really makes it (not that I want start
> > the "the The The" thing again)...
> >
>
>

Which reminded me that during the brief psychedelic revival of the 1980s I
used to see flyers for a local band called The.  I wish I'd seen them play,
if only for the bragging rights...

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:52:35 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Stacked Crooked <etews@inwa.net> wrote:

>
> still with the tagging demons??  do macintosheses not allow the "undo"
> feature in their softwareses?


No, no, no, that's all over.  I was just trying to use a widget to harvest
artwork.  I tested it on a couple of (what I would consider) elementary
cases (said MM and SY collections) and it botched 'em up... in a way that
seemed pretty counterintuitive to me (it seems to have assumed that song
name plus artist name equals original studio album, to hell with all the
runtimes or existing track numbers).  It was a little freeware widget called
FixTunes and I shitcanned it forthwith.

I think I'm running Tom's iTunes script right now, but I can't totally
tell... my library is close to 500 gigs so I'm not sure how long it'll
take....

- -Rex

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:55:32 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: great band name

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:28 PM, <HwyCDRrev@aol.com> wrote:

> Great band name  :
> http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55816
>
> Dead Kenny  G's 2008-03-17 Denver, CO (16-bit) (FLAC)
>

That reminds me of a few belated "Death-" artist names, neither of which fit
my original British Invasion specs, but what the hell:

Regina Spector of Death (or Ronnie... or god forbid Phil...)

...and... wait for it...

April Deathmarch.

- -Rex

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:58:33 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: movie talk

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM, kevin studyvin <kstudyvin@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > You gotta love the band names he puts on his all-star pickup bands.
> > > The Venus in Furs... it's the "the" that really makes it (not that I want
> > > start the "the The The" thing again)...
> > >
> >
> >
>
> Which reminded me that during the brief psychedelic revival of the 1980s I
> used to see flyers for a local band called The.  I wish I'd seen them play,
> if only for the bragging rights...
>

If only they'd opened for Matt Johnson's band, you would have been able to
see the The The with The gig... F, as they say, TW.

- -Rex

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:10:32 +0000
From: Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: By way of introduction

Welcome, Jeremy!

...And, on your way in, be sure to choose your side in any of the various
never-ending debates going on in the Feggy posts:  Buffy vs. BSG vs.
abstention; Lou vs. Cale; George W. Bush vs. the spoken English language; Rex
vs. Eb (ret.); "I Often Dream of Trains" vs. "Eye"; Rush (the band) vs. not;
liberals vs. Ferris; hating "Luxor" vs. not liking "Luxor"; "Shirtless Spike"
vs. having a pizza delivered by Jenna Fischer; mellow saxophone vs. not so
much; Keith Moon vs. Bill Bruford; Apple vs. MS; math vs. arithmetic; Peter
Buck vs. Tom Clark; and, of course, Man vs. The Empire Brain Building...


Michael "In my life there's just three things..." Sweeney
_________________________________________________________________
More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger.
http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_
instantaccess_042008

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:41:34 -0400
From: "Jeremy Osner" <anacreon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: By way of introduction

a. abstention
b. love em both but insofar as I actually spend time listening to
either one in the current period of my life, Lou
c. what'd the fuckin language ever do for me? oh yeah...
d. I'm so far out of touch I do not understand the question as stated
e. "Perpex Island" (seriously, can there be any real debate about this? <g>)
f. not
g. ...
h. not having heard "Luxor"; but liking the two songs I have heard
from it, "Solpadeine" and "You remind me of you", a great deal
i. either
j - y. aw come on



On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:10 AM, Michael Sweeney
<m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Welcome, Jeremy!
>
>  ...And, on your way in, be sure to choose your side in any of the various
> never-ending debates going on in the Feggy posts:  Buffy vs. BSG vs.
> abstention; Lou vs. Cale; George W. Bush vs. the spoken English language;
> Rex vs. Eb (ret.); "I Often Dream of Trains" vs. "Eye"; Rush (the band) vs.
> not; liberals vs. Ferris; hating "Luxor" vs. not liking "Luxor"; "Shirtless
> Spike" vs. having a pizza delivered by Jenna Fischer; mellow saxophone vs.
> not so much; Keith Moon vs. Bill Bruford; Apple vs. MS; math vs. arithmetic;
> Peter Buck vs. Tom Clark; and, of course, Man vs. The Empire Brain
> Building...
>
>
>  Michael "In my life there's just three things..." Sweeney
>
> ________________________________
> More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger.



- -- 
READIN 2.0
http://www.readin.com/blog/

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:02:52 -0400
From: "Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>
Subject: RE: Can '08 top '06? Maybe!

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On
Behalf Of kevin studyvin
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:19 PM
To: grutness@slingshot.co.nz
Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Can '08 top '06? Maybe!

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM, <grutness@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:

> grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
> >  >
> >  > I'm surprised no-one's yet mentioned (excluding reissues), The
> > Beatles:
> >  > Let it be (1970) -> Free as a bird (1995). 25 years
> >
> > Not exactly new material, and it's not as if the band was still 
> > active ...
> >
>
> >Depends what you mean by new material. The verse wasn't new, sure,
but 
> >the song as a whole was, since the middle eight was a new addition by

> >Paul. It was also (well, 75% was) a new recording, so it depends what

> >you mean by "active".
>
>  > I guess, simply put, the query is this:  Who -- which artist or 
> group
> > (mostly
> >  > artist, I suppose, since this is such a reflection of taste as it

> > >regards a  > single artist rather than a collective group) have you

> > >once loved, yet whose  > recent (or late or whatever metric you
want 
> > >to use) work leaves you completely  > cold?
> >
> > >I assume we can discount a change in taste based on a change in 
> > >personnel, ala Genesis, Marillion, Yes, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, 
> > >The Pogues, and so on....? And I assume that Sting is hardly worth 
> > >mentioning, right? Or The Rolling Stones?
> > 
>
> >Clapton wouldn't be worth mentioning either, right?
>>

>Playing in his sleep for decades.

Agreed. Clapton has been a huge disappointment. My slight hope for him
was to get inspired by having Allman Brothers Band guitar wiz Derek
Trucks in his touring band the last year.  Speaking of the Brothers,
apart from a couple of years in the mid 70's and early 80's they have
maintained their integrity and continued to release high quality albums.
Some may bemoan the loss of Dicky Betts, but their current twin guitar
attack is the best since Duane and Dicky era of 1969-71.

Michael "Lucky and old enough to have caught the Brothers in concent in
May of 1971" B.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:13:02 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!

On 4/10/08, Stacked Crooked <etews@inwa.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> <And as I've complained a zillion times, online tags for song files are
> obnoxiously inaccurate.>
>
>
> actually, your best bet in this case would probably've been to check some
> stones fansite that would've listed all the details you were needing.


I did look for such - but there are, of course, a million Stones sites in
the naked innertubes. And ones I did find were kinda useless - I found one
of the ones that the mysterious HwyCDRev linked to the other day, for
example, and it was damnably complete, with entries like "May 5, 1972 -
Keith Richards switches to a new brand of toothpaste - only to recall that
he has no actual teeth" - but with albums lacking their own distinct entries
with the info I needed. Or, if such were there, the site was poorly designed
such that I couldn't quickly find it.

In other words, I decided that rather than spend a lot of time digging
around for info online when I could do the job myself, I did it myself.

But hey - to repeat, I'm certainly willing to save others the effort.
Actually, in a week or so when I have time, maybe I'll check in more detail
and put it up online for anyone who might care.


unless, of course, you actually *enjoyed* the project.  i don't think that
> *i* would have...but that's, clearly, a matter of to each their own.



Well, I enjoyed having the results, if that counts.

Then again, I guess I'm weird in what I enjoy. I spent a reasonably large
amount of time, for example, chopping up bits and pieces of a Talking Heads
song and a Wire song to Frankenstein them together (at my website a week or
so back - the usual link). Someone commented that I needed to get a
life...uh, sorry, but I enjoyed doing that! (Even though it didn't turn out
as well as I'd hoped...)


- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:41:14 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Can '08 top '06? Maybe!

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:02 AM, Bachman, Michael <
Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com> wrote:

>   Speaking of the Brothers,
> apart from a couple of years in the mid 70's and early 80's they have
> maintained their integrity and continued to release high quality albums.
> Some may bemoan the loss of Dicky Betts, but their current twin guitar
> attack is the best since Duane and Dicky era of 1969-71.


I've never quite gotten the Allman brothers thing.  Does that make me a
complete anomaly as a semi-avid roots enthusiast, or a tired cliche as an
indie douchebag*?

- -Rex

*Yes, I wince to type the term, but it seems to have achieved dominance as
the prevailing terminology.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:58:49 -0400
From: "Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>
Subject: RE: Can '08 top '06? Maybe! Dual guitars!

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On
Behalf Of Rex
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:41 AM
To: Bachman, Michael
Cc: kevin studyvin; grutness@slingshot.co.nz; fegmaniax@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Can '08 top '06? Maybe!

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:02 AM, Bachman, Michael <
Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com> wrote:

> >Speaking of the Brothers,
> >apart from a couple of years in the mid 70's and early 80's they have

> >maintained their integrity and continued to release high quality
albums.
> >Some may bemoan the loss of Dicky Betts, but their current twin
guitar 
> >attack is the best since Duane and Dicky era of 1969-71.


>I've never quite gotten the Allman brothers thing.  Does that make me a
complete anomaly as a semi-avid
>roots enthusiast, or a tired cliche as an indie douchebag*?

Could be an age thing perhaps? Although some of the younger Dead fans
adopted the ABB after Garcia shuffled off this mortal coil. I was deep
into the English blues scene though at age 17 when I bought my first
John Mayall and Fleetwood Mac albums on 8 track in 1970. After Peter
Green left Fleetwood Mac and the Dominoes imploded, the Allmans Brother
became my favorite band after I bought Live At the Fillmore East in late
1971. I always loved a great dual lead guitar attack. Wishbone Ash in
the 70's was another favorite of mine. Later on it was Television, and
The Soft Boys!

Michael B.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:37:45 -0400
From: "m swedene" <m.swedene@gmail.com>
Subject: More video surfaces (Costello, Lowe, Hitchcock)

There are a few videos popping up on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjKchngIDk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eaWn6kzPZ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnvMKMKl2B0

magic...

Mike

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:42:57 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Can '08 top '06? Maybe! Dual guitars!

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Bachman, Michael

>  I always loved a great dual lead guitar attack. Wishbone Ash in
> the 70's was another favorite of mine. Later on it was Television, and
> The Soft Boys!


... the latter two being among my favorite bands evar, of course.  Add in
any number of subsequent postpunk dual-guitar bands as well (SY, Church,
Chameleons, Feelies etc.).  I think that I just don't cotton to the
white-blues version of the thing... my taste in blues runs to the
old-timers, the ones with the gnarly weirdness... Johnson, Muddy Waters,
Howlin' Wolf, that sort of thing.  Clapton, SRV etc. seem too formalized to
really interest me.

I do like a fair amount of British Invasion blues-based stuff-- Yardbirds,
Animals, Butterfield, things like that.  It still has a certain giddiness of
discovery to it.  But I've kinda gotten over my Zeppelin aversion recently
so who knows what I might get out of the Allmans now.  Someone actually
mentioned them as a point of comparison for my band at a show last
year ("somewhere between the Allman Brothers and R.E.M.", I think she said).

- -Rex

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:11:54 EDT
From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com
Subject: Re: Can '08 top '06? Maybe!

was just listening to Clapton/Winwood night 2 MSG
Clapton's playing is pretty much flawless -
reminiscent of Derek & The Dominoes-era ...
for this show - his playing is melodic, fluid,  and always keeps my  interest
I agree most of his solo ALBUMS suck - 
is there a more talented musician on more horrible albums ?
BUT he can still play when he feels up to it - 
and occasionally he still shines ! 
 
and he's got the dubious honor of having 
his sucky albums often becoming best sellers
 
and he still sings pretty well  
  
 
 
In a message dated 4/11/2008 9:06:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com writes:

Agreed.  Clapton has been a huge disappointment. My slight hope for him
was to get  inspired by having Allman Brothers Band guitar wiz Derek
Trucks in his  touring band the last year.  Speaking of the Brothers,
apart from a  couple of years in the mid 70's and early 80's they have
maintained their  integrity and continued to release high quality albums.
Some may bemoan the  loss of Dicky Betts, but their current twin guitar
attack is the best since  Duane and Dicky era of 1969-71.




**************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.    
  (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:22:26 -0400
From: Steve Talkowski <stevetalkowski@mac.com>
Subject: Previously on Lost...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcatQSyRK6c

I don't do Buffy or BSG, however, I've been fully hooked on Lost since  
the first episode.  The current season is especially good.


- -Steve, anxiously awaiting the supposedly rejuvenated '24'

- --

Steve Talkowski
Character Design & Animation
http://sketchbot.blogspot.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:03:45 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: By way of introduction

> e. "Perpex Island" (seriously, can there be any real debate about this?
> <g>)
>
You'd be surprised (and I'm surprised nobody's jumped on this yet)... a lot
of people rate PI rather lowly, citing dated prodution and subpar songs.  I
actually like it a lot; it's my second-favorited of the A&M albums and as
far as I'm concerned it's the jangle-rock record that so many bands were
trying to make in the '80's and failing.  But I tend to like that kind of
thing.

The perennial favorite around here tends to be "Element of Light", unless
you start counting Soft Boys records.

- -Rex

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:14:28 -0400
From: "Jeremy Osner" <anacreon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: By way of introduction

Yeah I know... I've seen PI trashed, not least by our man Hitchcock
himself, and it always seems very strange to me. Are the A&M albums
Element of Light, Globe of Frogs, Eye, Perspex Island, Respect?
Perspex Island is my favorite of those though I like them all. (Note I
am not familiar with several RH albums including Queen Elvis, Star for
Bram, Jewels(?) for Sophia, and a couple others.) "Birds in Perspex" I
think is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard.

My brother's fave is Element of Light, he was asking me just the other
day if it's in print. I said I don't think so but I think it is part
of the box set that's coming out later this year. I like EoL a lot and
BSDR always used to be my favorite but lately I've started thinking
his music has matured a lot over the last 15 years and I think that
maturation process sort of kicks in with Perspex Island and Respect.

J

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > e. "Perpex Island" (seriously, can there be any real debate about this?
> <g>)
> >
>
> You'd be surprised (and I'm surprised nobody's jumped on this yet)... a lot
> of people rate PI rather lowly, citing dated prodution and subpar songs.  I
> actually like it a lot; it's my second-favorited of the A&M albums and as
> far as I'm concerned it's the jangle-rock record that so many bands were
> trying to make in the '80's and failing.  But I tend to like that kind of
> thing.
>
> The perennial favorite around here tends to be "Element of Light", unless
> you start counting Soft Boys records.
>
> -Rex



- -- 
READIN 2.0
http://www.readin.com/blog/

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:15:54 -0700
From: Tom Clark <tclark@mac.com>
Subject: Re: Nazi Orgy, baybee!

On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Rex wrote:

> I think I'm running Tom's iTunes script right now, but I can't totally
> tell... my library is close to 500 gigs so I'm not sure how long it'll
> take....

I should probably just turn it into a full blown app and put a status  
bar in it.  You can tell if it's still going by opening the  
destination folder and watching the files appear.

- -tc

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:27:49 -0700
From: Carrie Galbraith <meketone@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: By way of introduction

On Apr 11, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Rex wrote:

>> e. "Perpex Island" (seriously, can there be any real debate about  
>> this?
>> <g>)
>>
> You'd be surprised (and I'm surprised nobody's jumped on this  
> yet)... a lot
> of people rate PI rather lowly, citing dated prodution and subpar  
> songs.  I
> actually like it a lot; it's my second-favorited of the A&M albums  
> and as
> far as I'm concerned it's the jangle-rock record that so many bands  
> were
> trying to make in the '80's and failing.  But I tend to like that  
> kind of
> thing.
>
> The perennial favorite around here tends to be "Element of Light",  
> unless
> you start counting Soft Boys records.
>


I'm a big fan of PI - but I also have a soft spot for the A&M years.  
Maybe because that's when I got turned on to our boy.
- - c

------------------------------

End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #570
********************************