From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #525 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 3 2008 Volume 16 : Number 525 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock - This Is The BBC Too [gaseous clay ] I'm about to throw red roses in the pool. Discuss. [Barbara Soutar ] [ot] be there or b flat ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: I'm about to throw red roses in the pool. Discuss. [2fs ] Divine Wind! ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: Divine Wind! [2fs ] turntable recommendations? [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: turntable recommendations? [2fs ] Re: turntable recommendations? [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: turntable recommendations? ["Jason Brown" ] Re: reap [Rex ] Re: I'm about to throw red roses in the pool. Discuss. [Rex ] Mind you, I doubt it's necessarily all that good, even with Adrian Belew involved [Jeff Dwarf ] guitar stuff [Christopher Gross ] Re: guitar stuff [Rex ] reap [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:18:34 -0500 From: gaseous clay Subject: NEW on DIME: Robyn Hitchcock - This Is The BBC Too http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=186305&hit=1 - -------- Original Message -------- A new torrent has been uploaded to DIME. Torrent: 186305 Title: Robyn Hitchcock - This Is The BBC Too Size: 1.06 GB Category: Singer/Songwriter Uploaded by: ocelot Info hash: 47db6b08b684f8ae3784d1cc3cba5d9221757ef2 Description - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A collection of Robyn's BBC Radio Appearences. Official Tracks Removed (available on HUX Records 'This Is The BBC'). Interviews and chat included. Robyn Hitchcock & the Egyptians. Radio Appearance: Radio1 In Concert: Town and Country Club, London, England, UK (01 November 1991). Opening for Billy Bragg FM>CASSETTE>WAVELAB>FLAC8 Setlist: Oceanside Birds in Perspex Chinese Bones Ride Uncorrected Personality Traits Robyn Hitchcock. Radio Appearance: 14 August 1996. Mark Radcliffe Show, BBC Radio 1, UK. FM>CASSETTE>WAVELAB>FLAC8 Setlist: De Chirico Street Heliotrope - removed: available on 'This Is The BBC'. 1974 Robyn Hitchcock. Radio Appearance: 21 August 1996. Andy Kershaw BBC Radio 1, UK. FM>CASSETTE>WAVELAB>FLAC8 Setlist: Let's Go Thundering. Where Do You Go When You Die? - removed: available on 'This Is The BBC'. Polly on the Shore - removed: available on 'This Is The BBC'. Robyn Hitchcock. Radio appearance: 22 August 2001 (Broadcast date 24 August 2001). Andy Kershaw, BBC Radio 3, UK. Dancebase, Grassmarket, Edinburgh, Scotland, UK. FM>CD-R>WAVELAB>FLAC8 Setlist: Gene Hackman Cheese Alarm Arms Of Love Surgery I Often Dream Of Trains Autumn Is Your Last Chance Freeze Interview with Andy Kershaw Robyn Hitchcock Radio Appearance: 8th January 2005 Mark Lamarr, Jonathan Ross Show, BBC Radio 2, UK FM>WAVELAB>FLAC8 Setlist: Full Moon In My Soul Creeped Out Robyn Hitchcock. Radio Appearance: 2001. Mark Lamarr, Jonathan Ross Show, BBC Radio 2, UK. FM>CD-R>WAVELAB>FLAC8 Setlist: A Man's Gotta Know His Limitations Briggs Robyn Hitchcock Radio Appearance: 1998 Loose Ends, BBC Radio 4, UK. FM>CD-R>WAVELAB>FLAC8 Setlist: The Cheese Alarm Robyn Hitchcock Radio Appearance: January 2000 Loose Ends, BBC Radio 4, UK. FM>CD-R>WAVELAB>FLAC8 Setlist: I Feel Beautiful The Soft Boys. Radio appearance: 18 January 1994. Mark Radcliffe Show, BBC Radio 1,UK. FM>CASSETTE>WAVELAB>FLAC8 Setlist: Queen of Eyes Zipper In My Spine Acid Bird Insanely Jealous The Soft Boys Radio appearance: 18 October 2002 Andy Kershaw, BBC Radio 3, UK. Maida Vale Studios, London FM>CD-R>WAVELAB>FLAC8 Setlist: I Wanna Destroy You Narcissus Pulse of My Heart Sudden Town Mr. Kennedy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:56:44 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: secret Malkmus/Matador/Robyn connection? On 3/1/08, 2fs wrote: > > So I received my copy of the new Stephen Malkmus CD from Matador > today...and the shipper is listed (in teensy print at the top of the UPS > label) as one "Adam Bohl" at Matador. Photographic evidence! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:41:27 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: my previous post.... More to chew on in the ongoing debate: Republicans do not want their children to be artists or writers, Tim Goeglein says. "Our party, in the way it is constituted, we think of medicine, we think of law, we think of business. We don't think, gee, I hope my son grows up to be a great playwright or painter or poet," he explained. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/10/AR20050810017 91.html And who is Tim Goeglein you might ask? Goeglein has worked in the Bush White House since 2001 as the Bush administration's liaison to religious organizations. Hes been called the Pipeline to the President For GOP Conservatives Hes also the highly placed Republican who just got caught for plagiarizing a newspaper article he wrote. http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080229/NEWS/194943 667/1002/LOCAL But never fear, after he was caught, he APOLOGIZED to the writer whose work he stole. Interesting attitude towards creativity. All this doesn't preclude a conservative appreciating the music and poetry of Robyn Hitchcock... but it sure makes it clear that liberals create such music and poetry. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:14:48 -0800 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: I'm about to throw red roses in the pool. Discuss. Famous psychiatrist has admitted that people in love are clinically insane. "Anyone who would yoke their individuality to another individual must be seeking the destruction of selfhood." said Dr. Amore Negato. He has treated countless former individuals over his professional life. All had previously been oblivious to the charms of the chosen lover but over time, slowly but surely lost their appreciation of the joys of self sufficiency. After treatment, they became happy to be alone again. Naturally. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:48:53 -0800 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: reap Jeff Healey - 41 http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/03/02/obit-healey.html Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:04:54 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: [ot] be there or b flat newb guitar player filter - how in the sam hill is any normal human being supposed to play a Bb chord? Non-alien hands aren't supposed to make that shape. I'm almost liking F by comparison. Stewart (making a real hash of The Tennessee Stud ...) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:31:04 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: I'm about to throw red roses in the pool. Discuss. On 3/2/08, Barbara Soutar wrote: > > Famous psychiatrist has admitted that people in love are clinically > insane. "Anyone who would yoke their individuality to another individual > must be seeking the destruction of selfhood." said Dr. Amore Negato. You know who's even more nuts? Parents. I mean, how insane is it to dedicate your life to some small-scale human who's too dumb, too weak, and too irresponsible to support him- or herself? It's slavery, that's what it is. And obviously, anyone who voluntarily becomes a slave - especially who then claims to actually love and enjoy it - is insane. Mad. Nutso. Completely fucking batshit bonkers. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:34:34 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [ot] be there or b flat On 3/2/08, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > newb guitar player filter - how in the sam hill is any normal human > being supposed to play a Bb chord? Non-alien hands aren't supposed to > make that shape. I'm almost liking F by comparison. Which B-flat chord? For the A-shaped one, I just mash the three middle strings down with my third finger, probably tossing in a bit from the middle one to help out, while barreing on the first fret. Or you can play the E-shaped variety 6 frets up. Or you can just not play songs that use B-flat chords - what's wrong with those idiots writing for guitar in B-flat? The worst chord is E-flat, though, at least if you're trying to play it at the end of the neck. I'm one of the worst guitarists ever, though. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:43:01 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Divine Wind! . me, i'm on a zz top jag. believe it! can't figure out how to get it loud enough to produce a state of absolute pleasure (or what). thanks to whomever recommended mccoy-tyner, incidentally. quite good! although, not too enamoured of the other recs, to be honest. my mistake, too: i've since come to realise that the boogie-woogie is its own separate sub-genre of jazz-pianism; and have been rather happy indeed with the downloads filed thereunder. okay, a grammar question. we've all seen about a million-and-one times the statement (or similar), "I feel bad about attacking baby boomers yesterday, so I'll let Sally have the floor." clearly a semantical mistake, as what's intended in these cases is "having attacked" rather than "attacking". but what i'm wondering is whether the later formulation even parses? the closest i can figure out on my own is something to the effect that the agent is attacking its victim *through a time machine* (i.e., the agent is currently in the present, while the victim is currently in the past -- though unless the time-machine ships with this capability, the two can presumably not see each other). at any rate, i think this reading does work -- but am i missing another, more obvious, one? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:53:22 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Divine Wind! On 3/2/08, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > >. I'm sure there are those who will say that wind emanated from quarters quite other than divine... > okay, a grammar question. we've all seen about a million-and-one times > the > statement (or similar), "I feel bad about attacking baby boomers > yesterday, > so I'll let Sally have the floor." clearly a semantical mistake, as > what's > intended in these cases is "having attacked" rather than "attacking". > > but what i'm wondering is whether the later formulation even parses? the > closest i can figure out on my own is something to the effect that the > agent is attacking its victim *through a time machine* Uh, I think you're overthinking it. The person's just speaking casually and letting a bit of slack into the grammar. After all, if someone said, "what were you doing yesterday at 3 in the afternoon?" you might quite conceivably reply, "Masturbating to thoughts of Eb's magic johnson." That, of course, is short (so to speak) for "I was masturbating" - and by analogy, I think the speaker's thinking something like "I was attacking baby boomers yesterday - I feel bad about that." What that has to do with having Sally on the floor, I'll never know. (Is that an elephant in your pajamas, or are you just happy to see me?) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:08:58 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: turntable recommendations? Thinking of replacing my 23-year-old Sony PS-LX410. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:28:36 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: turntable recommendations? On 3/2/08, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > Thinking of replacing my 23-year-old Sony PS-LX410. I have no recommendations - but I suspect that those who might have them will want to know how you use your turntable and whether you plan on digitizing LPs, or DJing, etc. Speaking of turntables, am I hallucinating - sorry, had I hallucinated - in imagining that at one point, there was a turntable that instead of using a needle actually read the grooves by means of a laser...a clever idea whose time came just exactly too late, as (if I remember right) within a year or so the CD came out? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:45:00 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: turntable recommendations? On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, 2fs wrote: > On 3/2/08, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > > > Thinking of replacing my 23-year-old Sony PS-LX410. > > I have no recommendations - but I suspect that those who might have them > will want to know how you use your turntable and whether you plan on > digitizing LPs, or DJing, etc. Good point. No digitizing (and if I do, I can connect it myself, so I don't want one of those Ion USB things, unless they're actually good in and of themselves), and definitely no DJing. Just playing my collection, which finally did stop growing a while back, but I have no intention of shrinking it anytime soon. > Speaking of turntables, am I hallucinating - sorry, had I hallucinated - in > imagining that at one point, there was a turntable that instead of using a > needle actually read the grooves by means of a laser...a clever idea whose > time came just exactly too late, as (if I remember right) within a year or > so the CD came out? No hallucination: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_turntable http://www.elpj.com/ http://www.laser-turntable.com/Turntables/Laser/TheLaserTurntable.htm http://www.smartdev.com/LT/laserturntable.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:46:45 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: turntable recommendations? On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > Thinking of replacing my 23-year-old Sony PS-LX410. I have a low-end Technics I bought a decade ago it works great. - -- "Never go with a hippie to a second location." - Jack Donaghy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:30:06 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: reap On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Barbara Soutar wrote: > Jeff Healey - 41 > > http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/03/02/obit-healey.h > tml Younger than I thought. Strangely, I just heard his album for the first time last week, on a cassette of my wife's that I digitized. The wife dated him, and was just thinking of him this weekend when we watched "Ray". On the un-reap side, I seem to have almost all my damn music back on a hard drive, and, get this, it's all backed up as well. Many thanks to all who helped, especially Jeff Norman, who worked faster than Bob Pollard... it's true. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:31:15 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: I'm about to throw red roses in the pool. Discuss. On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 6:31 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 3/2/08, Barbara Soutar wrote: > > > > Famous psychiatrist has admitted that people in love are clinically > > insane. "Anyone who would yoke their individuality to another individual > > must be seeking the destruction of selfhood." said Dr. Amore Negato. > > > You know who's even more nuts? > > Parents. I mean, how insane is it to dedicate your life to some > small-scale > human who's too dumb, too weak, and too irresponsible to support him- or > herself? > > It's slavery, that's what it is. And obviously, anyone who voluntarily > becomes a slave - especially who then claims to actually love and enjoy it > - > is insane. Mad. Nutso. Completely fucking batshit bonkers. > For sure. Usually outlasts the "in love" thing, too. - -Rex, smitten many times over ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:00:20 -0600 (CST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: I'm about to throw red roses in the pool. Discuss. On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, 2fs wrote: > Parents. I mean, how insane is it to dedicate your life to some > small-scale human who's too dumb, too weak, and too irresponsible to > support him- or herself? I've been listening to this nonstop for the past month or so: It's a song about immigration disguised as a song about reproduction disguised as a science fiction story. Brilliant. The other songs are neat, too. I'm not sure if any of them top 2 minutes. It's like the folk implementation of the punk aesthetic. Sleeping now. J. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 00:01:26 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap On 3/2/08, Rex wrote: > > > On the un-reap side, I seem to have almost all my damn music back on a > hard > drive, and, get this, it's all backed up as well. Many thanks to all who > helped, especially Jeff Norman, who worked faster than Bob Pollard... it's > true. We're only talking about posting music here. If we were talking about drinking, no way I could keep up. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:03:53 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Mind you, I doubt it's necessarily all that good, even with Adrian Belew involved but this is the sort of behavior we ought to be encouraging in our rock stars, right? http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home http://ghosts.nin.com/main/order_options "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:48:54 -0800 From: "Benjamin Lukoff" Subject: Re: Mind you, I doubt it's necessarily all that good, even with Adrian Belew involved Definitely. $10 for 2 discs, now that's a good price. And lossless downloads for $5. On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > but this is the sort of behavior we ought to be encouraging in our > rock stars, right? > > http://ghosts.nin.com/main/home > http://ghosts.nin.com/main/order_options > > > "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure > out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to > satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom > Lehrer > > "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute > . > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 09:22:21 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: [ot] be there or b flat On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Just barre it. That's about all there is to do. And note that there > > ain't no guitar songs in that key. > > > and typically, you only need it for half a bar of Tennessee Stud (a > hokey tune, but a good 'un - esp when Doc Watson plays it). > I have no problem with that song at all... never tried to play it, but I know just where that Bb goes. What's been driving me nuts for a week or so is how to figure out just when to do the changes in "Don't Let the Stars Get in Your Eyes"... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:42:17 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: guitar stuff Willow: Well, don't you have some ambition? Oz: Oh, yeah! Yeah. E-flat, diminished ninth. Willow: Huh? Oz: Well, the E-flat, it's doable, but that diminished ninth, y'know, it's a man's chord. You could lose a finger. - --Buffy the Vampire Slayer, "What's My Line Part II" (season 2, episode 10, original air date 24 Nov. 1997) ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:06:55 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: guitar stuff On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > Willow: Well, don't you have some ambition? > > Oz: Oh, yeah! Yeah. E-flat, diminished ninth. > > Willow: Huh? > > Oz: Well, the E-flat, it's doable, but that diminished ninth, y'know, > it's a man's chord. You could lose a finger. > I always figured a "man's chord" was the root and the fifth. Tuning the whole damned thing that way has always been the only way I could fake playing slide, anyhow. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:44:57 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: reap Jeff Healey, 41 James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #525 ********************************